MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2006-09-01

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2006-09-01T01:24:11  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: why is loadlanguage called recursively?
2006-09-01T01:24:12  <xorAxAx> loadLanguage = 20.491s loadLanguage|1 = 15.340s loadLanguage|2 = 11.931s loadLanguage|3 = 7.691s loadLanguage|4 = 2.814s
2006-09-01T01:29:46  <ThomasWaldmann> huh?
2006-09-01T01:30:10  <ThomasWaldmann> i have never seen such timings
2006-09-01T01:30:27  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: first request that fills the caches
2006-09-01T01:30:55  <ThomasWaldmann> is it in main branch?
2006-09-01T01:31:03  <xorAxAx> yes, thats the main branch
2006-09-01T01:31:24  <xorAxAx> its on my vserver, so while testing, you might see slightly lower times
2006-09-01T01:31:40  <xorAxAx> (because the vserver is usually a little bit loaded)
2006-09-01T01:32:57  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, only 3s here X)
2006-09-01T01:33:25  <xorAxAx> but 4 levels of calls?
2006-09-01T01:33:32  <xorAxAx> that sounds weird somehow :)
2006-09-01T01:34:41  <ThomasWaldmann> i dont see recursion there
2006-09-01T01:35:01  <ThomasWaldmann> but we have multiple languages
2006-09-01T01:36:41  <xorAxAx> |4 means that the timer was started while 3 equally named ones were still running
2006-09-01T01:36:50  <xorAxAx> that can only achieved by recursion AFAIK
2006-09-01T01:37:23  * ThomasWaldmann looks at src
2006-09-01T01:43:04  <ThomasWaldmann> gettext calls loadlanguage, loadlanguage parses wikimarkup, wikimarkup calls gettext
2006-09-01T01:43:10  <xorAxAx> hehe
2006-09-01T01:43:29  <xorAxAx> so its parsing the language files multiple times?
2006-09-01T01:43:37  <xorAxAx> in every generation once?
2006-09-01T01:44:19  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, i think so
2006-09-01T02:08:42  <xorAxAx> fpletz: last modified is 0 if xapian is disabled
2006-09-01T02:17:20  <xorAxAx> fpletz: please register HelpOnXapian on HelpOnSystemPagesInEnglish
2006-09-01T09:36:29  <Kepplar> moin
2006-09-01T09:36:55  <Kepplar> sorry ive been inactive, been doing forms and stuff for the past few days regarding moving back to uni this year
2006-09-01T12:36:44  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: whats the current merging status of your branch?
2006-09-01T14:16:33  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: might it make sense to add a README to the docbook exported zip file explaining on how you can use the file?
2006-09-01T14:21:26  <ThomasWaldmann> there should be one or some wiki pages on the moinmoin site about it
2006-09-01T14:21:52  <xorAxAx> yeah
2006-09-01T14:22:04  <xorAxAx> on moinmaster, even
2006-09-01T14:22:13  <ThomasWaldmann> to have a chance for merging this into main, it should be in the state we can use it als HelpOn...
2006-09-01T14:22:36  <ThomasWaldmann> but as long as this stuff is totally unclear, don't use moinmaster and don't NAME it Help*
2006-09-01T14:23:10  <xorAxAx> what is unclear?
2006-09-01T14:23:53  <ThomasWaldmann> usage, capabilities, examples, limitations, .............................
2006-09-01T14:24:08  <xorAxAx> it just needs to be documented on moinmaster
2006-09-01T14:24:14  <xorAxAx> i think he has already some docs
2006-09-01T14:24:19  <xorAxAx> just not in the canonical locations
2006-09-01T14:24:33  <ThomasWaldmann> you tried the stuff?
2006-09-01T14:24:38  <xorAxAx> and i want to see it in the first 1.6 release (beta or whatever)
2006-09-01T14:24:43  <xorAxAx> yes
2006-09-01T14:24:58  <ThomasWaldmann> works? completely?
2006-09-01T14:25:29  <xorAxAx> there is some known bug that is rather minor compared to the issues one usuaully has with the old docbook formatter
2006-09-01T14:25:35  <ThomasWaldmann> no essential todo left?
2006-09-01T14:25:41  <xorAxAx> and the include macro has slightly different (documented) semantics
2006-09-01T14:25:47  <xorAxAx> no idea, we have to ask him
2006-09-01T14:25:52  <xorAxAx> its not my branhc ":)"
2006-09-01T14:26:12  <ThomasWaldmann> this is what I mean about unclear :)
2006-09-01T14:27:23  <xorAxAx> its not unclear
2006-09-01T14:27:29  <xorAxAx> you are just too lazy to communicate :-p
2006-09-01T14:28:10  <ThomasWaldmann> I am not his mentor :) And not his documentator.
2006-09-01T14:28:32  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i think it is rather strange that his mentor never showed up here.
2006-09-01T14:31:17  <xorAxAx> his mentor doesnt like to communicate, he told me
2006-09-01T14:36:22  <ThomasWaldmann> X)
2006-09-01T14:42:54  <xorAxAx> he usually fixes bugs himself instead of talking to his mentee
2006-09-01T14:49:34  <Kepplar> whos mentor?
2006-09-01T15:01:00  <xorAxAx> Kepplar: of mvirkkil
2006-09-01T15:16:55  <Kepplar> i thought that was tw?
2006-09-01T15:22:43  <xorAxAx> no
2006-09-01T15:23:10  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil is mentored by a fedora guy
2006-09-01T15:23:37  <ThomasWaldmann> hah, spaceship orion becomes reality :))
2006-09-01T15:24:57  <xorAxAx> in b/w?
2006-09-01T15:25:02  <xorAxAx> wrong channel btw
2006-09-01T15:25:21  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/77587