1 2010-06-30T00:27:07 *** RogerHaase
2 2010-06-30T00:27:51 <dreimark> gn
3 2010-06-30T00:39:57 *** aa_
4 2010-06-30T00:57:54 *** valeuf
5 2010-06-30T00:58:02 *** valeuf
6 2010-06-30T01:20:33 *** valeuf
7 2010-06-30T02:01:35 *** xjjk
8 2010-06-30T02:03:04 *** valeuf
9 2010-06-30T02:29:15 *** xjjk
10 2010-06-30T05:20:53 *** kursor
11 2010-06-30T07:10:50 *** TheSheep
12 2010-06-30T08:20:06 *** gwork
13 2010-06-30T09:00:07 *** kursor
14 2010-06-30T09:44:41 *** DmitryAndreev
15 2010-06-30T09:45:06 <DmitryAndreev> moin
16 2010-06-30T09:45:19 <DmitryAndreev> yesterday i was learning philosophy all day, i thought that i have my last exam to graduation school today. When i've came to university, i've found that my philosophy exam would be next week.. FAIL
17 2010-06-30T09:45:55 <DmitryAndreev> graduate school*
18 2010-06-30T09:46:53 <DmitryAndreev> postgraduate.. i don't know, which word is better.
19 2010-06-30T10:02:47 <ThomasWaldmann> well, that doesn't change the amount you have to learn for it, right? :)
20 2010-06-30T10:12:30 *** ei-grad
21 2010-06-30T10:29:41 <DmitryAndreev> ThomasWaldmann, yes, but you know, i have a problem with german philosophers.) i think thats because of russian language, some phrases are not uderstandable
22 2010-06-30T10:44:35 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess some germans don't understand them either :P
23 2010-06-30T11:07:04 <ei-grad> )
24 2010-06-30T11:14:08 <valeuf> DmitryAndreev: you have to attend philosophy exam for your post-graduate school ?
25 2010-06-30T11:14:15 <valeuf> this is surprising !
26 2010-06-30T11:39:01 <ei-grad> interesting, are the graduate students allowed to participate in gsoc?
27 2010-06-30T12:14:21 <DmitryAndreev> valeuf, examination in the specialty, a foreign language and philosophy, in any post-graduate school in soviet russia.)
28 2010-06-30T12:14:37 <valeuf> interesting ^ ^
29 2010-06-30T12:15:07 <valeuf> I was thinking to be quite unusual to have a minor in philosophy with a major in computer science ...
30 2010-06-30T12:15:09 <DmitryAndreev> ei-grad, yes, if you was a student at 24th of april and you may be student of a post-graduate school
31 2010-06-30T12:15:19 <valeuf> but it seems that in Russia this is just common :p
32 2010-06-30T12:16:07 <DmitryAndreev> valeuf, well, PhD == Philosophiæ Doctor .)
33 2010-06-30T12:17:40 <valeuf> it was in the old time ^ ^
34 2010-06-30T12:17:55 <valeuf> when everything was philosophy
35 2010-06-30T12:55:29 <dreimark> ei-grad: there is a FAQ for the rules.
36 2010-06-30T13:30:48 <CIA-98> Valentin Janiaut <valentin.janiaut@utbm.fr> default * 8505:e520fea95d7c 2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/MoinMoin/converter2/ (_tests/test_html_in.py html_in.py html_out.py): Change downer to lower in the list attributes
37 2010-06-30T13:30:50 <CIA-98> Valentin Janiaut <valentin.janiaut@utbm.fr> default * 8506:8244301c8c3f 2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/MoinMoin/converter2/html_out.py: Fix missing indetation in front of comment
38 2010-06-30T13:30:51 <CIA-98> Valentin Janiaut <valentin.janiaut@utbm.fr> default * 8507:5f63b38816ff 2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/MoinMoin/converter2/_tests/test_html_out.py: Rewrote all HTML_OUT tests using xpath
39 2010-06-30T13:30:53 <CIA-98> Valentin Janiaut <valentin.janiaut@utbm.fr> default * 8508:226809f05468 2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/MoinMoin/converter2/_tests/test_html_out.py: Add test for stroke text in the HTML_OUT converter
40 2010-06-30T13:30:57 <CIA-98> Valentin Janiaut <valentin.janiaut@utbm.fr> default * 8509:3d35a1421384 2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/MoinMoin/converter2/_tests/test_html_out.py: Add test for big and small test in the HTML_OUT converter
41 2010-06-30T14:15:58 *** ValentinJaniaut
42 2010-06-30T14:17:46 *** valeuf
43 2010-06-30T14:17:46 *** ValentinJaniaut
44 2010-06-30T14:21:53 *** kursor
45 2010-06-30T15:38:28 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: now it's clear why not html.del X)
46 2010-06-30T15:38:56 <valeuf> :)
47 2010-06-30T15:39:21 <valeuf> yep, I remember yesterday there was a problem with html.del, but I could not remember why, I made some test this morning
48 2010-06-30T15:40:01 <valeuf> I was really surprised when I first get the syntax error ... until I remember that del is a protected keyword in python
49 2010-06-30T15:44:39 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, for everyone who did not notice yet: it is less than 2 weeks until midterm evals
50 2010-06-30T15:45:00 * ThomasWaldmann just added midterm evals start into the calendars
51 2010-06-30T15:46:44 <ThomasWaldmann> so, if you feel you didn't work enough on your project yet or were rather slow at the beginning, it is time to do more / get faster NOW
52 2010-06-30T15:48:09 * ThomasWaldmann won't be impressed if you get really busy working on moin at the weekend before midterm. See "no deadline scheduling".
53 2010-06-30T15:49:19 <ThomasWaldmann> (I mean if you didn't also do that before, otherwise it's ok of course :)
54 2010-06-30T16:04:49 *** gwork
55 2010-06-30T16:10:59 *** RogerHaase
56 2010-06-30T17:03:25 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: that todo makes me think that maybe it would be a good thing to have the theme's css generated from a template
57 2010-06-30T17:03:38 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: then you could have things like variables for colors
58 2010-06-30T17:04:09 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe, nice idea :)
59 2010-06-30T17:05:47 <ThomasWaldmann> it would add some processing time (don't know how much that is, but maybe not that much, due to caching in jinja2),
60 2010-06-30T17:06:04 <TheSheep> but I'm not going to propose to do it during the gsoc
61 2010-06-30T17:06:09 <ThomasWaldmann> otoh it could reduce overhead by merging all parts of css into one request
62 2010-06-30T17:06:39 <TheSheep> well, css is only downloaded once per session anyways
63 2010-06-30T17:06:52 <TheSheep> yes, and you can also minify that css
64 2010-06-30T17:07:04 <TheSheep> plone does that
65 2010-06-30T17:07:44 <ThomasWaldmann> it could also help with i18n issues
66 2010-06-30T17:08:09 <TheSheep> you mean ltr vs. rtl?
67 2010-06-30T17:08:26 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess that can be handled by css itself
68 2010-06-30T17:08:37 <TheSheep> that's maybe not a good idea, because this can change depedning on the page
69 2010-06-30T17:08:59 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure if we use it somewhere, but if we insert text after/before some other element
70 2010-06-30T17:09:27 <ThomasWaldmann> this is rather an issue for js maybe, our js needs a bit of i18n
71 2010-06-30T17:09:32 <TheSheep> we use it for changing >> with << in breadcrumbs
72 2010-06-30T17:10:12 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, how about changing that title* in the current code/template to breadcrumbs?
73 2010-06-30T17:10:18 <TheSheep> about javascript hooks, I really think moin should ship with and use everywhere the jquery library
74 2010-06-30T17:10:21 <ThomasWaldmann> title is somehow misleading
75 2010-06-30T17:10:39 <TheSheep> then you can register the events easily right from the code, no need for any javascript in the html itself
76 2010-06-30T17:11:16 <TheSheep> yeah, we need to change all class names to moin-* anyways
77 2010-06-30T17:11:40 <ThomasWaldmann> can you add those ideas to the page?
78 2010-06-30T17:12:32 <TheSheep> I'd rather not add the template for css, but jquery and class names -- sure, let me add them
79 2010-06-30T17:12:34 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe using template for css within soc is no big issue. one can use it that way even without really using it.
80 2010-06-30T17:14:41 <TheSheep> merging them and minifying can be complex -- depending on the approach
81 2010-06-30T17:15:37 <ThomasWaldmann> i don't care right now about minifying, how's merging complex?
82 2010-06-30T17:16:04 <ThomasWaldmann> if you have multiple files, isn't it same as one after the other in same file?
83 2010-06-30T17:16:43 <TheSheep> it is, but you need to read them all
84 2010-06-30T17:17:02 <ThomasWaldmann> (except media handling, which needs to be done within css then)
85 2010-06-30T17:17:08 <TheSheep> btw, that makes it hard to set up the css to be served by apache
86 2010-06-30T17:17:20 <TheSheep> unless you cache it in some directory
87 2010-06-30T17:17:30 <TheSheep> and rebuild on request/change
88 2010-06-30T17:18:31 <ThomasWaldmann> when I built that internal static server into moin, I made an experiment with cgi (IIRC)
89 2010-06-30T17:18:52 <ThomasWaldmann> just to test how much it sucks when css/js/images are dynamically served with cgi
90 2010-06-30T17:19:26 <ThomasWaldmann> of course the first request was a bit slow, esp. when invoking gui editor, but afterwards no problem, browser caching for the rescue
91 2010-06-30T17:20:08 <ThomasWaldmann> also, if we allow extensions with own static files, setting all that up with apache would be painful anyway
92 2010-06-30T17:20:21 <TheSheep> yeah
93 2010-06-30T17:20:36 <TheSheep> it simplifies plugins and gives a number of advantages
94 2010-06-30T17:20:44 <TheSheep> for the price of a dubious disadvantage
95 2010-06-30T17:23:22 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe mm* or mm-* instead of moin-*?
96 2010-06-30T17:23:48 <ThomasWaldmann> just for teh laziness :)
97 2010-06-30T17:26:29 <TheSheep> I was even thinking about -moin-*
98 2010-06-30T17:26:35 <TheSheep> to avoid clashes
99 2010-06-30T17:27:01 <TheSheep> moin- takes same effort to type as mm-
100 2010-06-30T17:27:23 <ThomasWaldmann> 5 keys vs 2
101 2010-06-30T17:27:32 <TheSheep> people type in words, not in keys
102 2010-06-30T17:28:35 * ThomasWaldmann notices moin letters are nicely arranged on kbd, coincidence!?
103 2010-06-30T17:29:08 <ThomasWaldmann> but still, mm- is faster for me :)
104 2010-06-30T17:29:35 <valeuf> depends your key layout :)
105 2010-06-30T17:29:53 <ThomasWaldmann> insane kbd layouts are out of question :P
106 2010-06-30T17:30:05 <TheSheep> would be faster if it were keys for different hands
107 2010-06-30T17:30:33 <valeuf> TheSheep: use dvorak like me :p
108 2010-06-30T17:30:38 <ThomasWaldmann> iirc i had the joy with a french kbd once. iirc i cursed a lot.
109 2010-06-30T17:31:14 <TheSheep> valeuf: dvorak is horrible for non-English layouts
110 2010-06-30T17:32:00 <TheSheep> valeuf: Polish has a different frequency of letters and quite a number of accented characters
111 2010-06-30T17:32:01 <valeuf> TheSheep: no I use it for french text with not big trouble
112 2010-06-30T17:32:02 <ThomasWaldmann> the german kbd also sucks a bit, but only for programming (for which i prefer an US kbd)
113 2010-06-30T17:32:17 <dreimark> british kbd is more fun
114 2010-06-30T17:32:23 <TheSheep> valeuf: French only has a few acutes and graves, and cedilla
115 2010-06-30T17:32:34 <valeuf> TheSheep: sure :p
116 2010-06-30T17:32:42 <valeuf> TheSheep: sorry to have an easy language ^ ^
117 2010-06-30T17:32:53 <valeuf> sorry bbl
118 2010-06-30T17:32:55 <TheSheep> valeuf: Latin would have been easier
119 2010-06-30T17:34:04 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: we still need some plugin system. and i guess it would be less work if we first choose that and then work on the extensible parts of output generation
120 2010-06-30T17:35:09 <ThomasWaldmann> the default theme could be an extension also, we just ship it with moin
121 2010-06-30T17:35:50 <TheSheep> me nod nods
122 2010-06-30T17:36:38 <dreimark> TheSheep: we will need jquery later on severall places e.g. sorting of tables
123 2010-06-30T17:37:26 <TheSheep> dreimark: I think it makes sense to rewrite all the theme js to jquery
124 2010-06-30T17:37:36 * dreimark too
125 2010-06-30T17:37:41 <TheSheep> dreimark: it will be 300% smaller and 500% easier to maintain
126 2010-06-30T17:37:49 <TheSheep> 500.57% exactly
127 2010-06-30T17:37:56 <dreimark> hehe
128 2010-06-30T17:38:34 <ThomasWaldmann> wow, search for "flask" and find the right think at top of google results
129 2010-06-30T17:38:49 <ThomasWaldmann> thing*
130 2010-06-30T17:39:16 <dreimark> we will need later a form validator and a form system to write meta data. this would be a pain without jquery
131 2010-06-30T17:39:46 <ThomasWaldmann> I have nothing against jquery :)
132 2010-06-30T17:40:05 <ThomasWaldmann> I just don't like to touch js stuff in general. :)
133 2010-06-30T17:41:04 <dreimark> btw. we should also discuss if we want in the future have sphinx documentation
134 2010-06-30T17:41:34 <dreimark> because if we want we can now start to write new docstrings
135 2010-06-30T17:41:36 <ThomasWaldmann> sphinx output looks nice, but I didn't try using it yet
136 2010-06-30T17:41:49 * TheSheep <3 sphinx
137 2010-06-30T17:41:52 <ThomasWaldmann> so that also wait for a volunteer
138 2010-06-30T17:42:09 <TheSheep> I even customized a theme for it: http://packages.python.org/stxnext.monstrum/#
139 2010-06-30T17:42:09 <ThomasWaldmann> (and we generally talk about moin2 only for such stuff)
140 2010-06-30T17:43:05 <dreimark> yes that was the intention
141 2010-06-30T17:52:23 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/htmlfaq/#what-should-be-used what do you think about that?
142 2010-06-30T17:55:51 <TheSheep> html5 is not even ready yet
143 2010-06-30T17:56:17 <TheSheep> then again, so isn't moin2 ;)
144 2010-06-30T17:57:19 <ThomasWaldmann> i am a bit concerned about the xhtml problems it points out
145 2010-06-30T17:57:37 <TheSheep> yeah, there is no reason to use xhtml
146 2010-06-30T17:57:58 <ThomasWaldmann> so, what do we want to emit? :)
147 2010-06-30T17:58:00 <TheSheep> at least not for pages that are to e used by humans
148 2010-06-30T17:58:11 <TheSheep> html, obviously
149 2010-06-30T17:58:42 <ThomasWaldmann> html4, as ever? X)
150 2010-06-30T17:59:12 <ThomasWaldmann> see todo list of diofeher btw.
151 2010-06-30T17:59:36 <TheSheep> html 4.1 with elements of html5 and fallbacks for the old browsers, and then gradually more html5 and less fallbacks
152 2010-06-30T18:00:15 <ThomasWaldmann> is there a doctype for that? :)
153 2010-06-30T18:00:22 <TheSheep> yes
154 2010-06-30T18:00:22 <dreimark> that is similiar to python3
155 2010-06-30T18:00:28 <TheSheep> <!doctype html>
156 2010-06-30T18:00:37 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
157 2010-06-30T18:00:58 <ThomasWaldmann> sound like telling browser "find it out yourself" :)
158 2010-06-30T18:01:16 <TheSheep> no, it means 'use html5 if you can'
159 2010-06-30T18:01:36 <TheSheep> since html 4 is compatible with 5, it's ok
160 2010-06-30T18:01:53 <TheSheep> and broken browsers are going to break it anyways
161 2010-06-30T18:02:12 <ThomasWaldmann> if we use that doctype, will converter output be ok as content?
162 2010-06-30T18:02:33 <TheSheep> things like <img /> ?
163 2010-06-30T18:03:03 <ThomasWaldmann> everything :)
164 2010-06-30T18:03:45 <ThomasWaldmann> (15:34) < waldi> the html output is only sgml-compatible xml, not real html. thats why it produces namespace tags
165 2010-06-30T18:03:49 <TheSheep> the main difference of xhtml is the / on empty elements and lots of namespaces and required attributes
166 2010-06-30T18:04:40 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: this needs to be changed, see polyglot draft
167 2010-06-30T18:04:45 *** DmitryAndreev
168 2010-06-30T18:05:26 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, hopefully in the end our content will match the theme and will be usable with some common browsers :)
169 2010-06-30T18:05:34 <TheSheep> there is an xml falvour of html5 too, btw
170 2010-06-30T18:05:57 <TheSheep> flavour
171 2010-06-30T18:05:57 <waldi> and the spec is much easier then the html variant
172 2010-06-30T18:06:18 <TheSheep> well, sgml is bitch :)
173 2010-06-30T18:06:29 <waldi> its not even real sgml
174 2010-06-30T18:06:41 <waldi> you can't use sgml shorthand syntax
175 2010-06-30T18:07:49 <ThomasWaldmann> ... and work with CKeditor or something similar
176 2010-06-30T18:08:24 <TheSheep> well, I bet the ck team is hot for html5 too
177 2010-06-30T18:08:42 <waldi> there is some spec about a sandboxed html
178 2010-06-30T18:09:30 <dreimark> ei-grad: how is it going?
179 2010-06-30T18:09:38 <TheSheep> I think that by the time moin2 is ready for release, html5 will be ready for use, including workarounds for msie
180 2010-06-30T18:09:46 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, to resume: <!doctype html> and inside the xmlish variant of html5?
181 2010-06-30T18:10:06 <ei-grad> dreimark: i switched to kerberos now...
182 2010-06-30T18:10:09 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I need to check what you need in order to use the xml-ish variant
183 2010-06-30T18:10:48 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, please check
184 2010-06-30T18:10:58 * ThomasWaldmann is a bit confused about that stuff
185 2010-06-30T18:11:54 <TheSheep> It must be served with an XML MIME type, such as application/xml or application/xhtml+xml (so no rendering in Internet Explorer for the moment) and will throw a wobbly at the slightest well-formedness violation.
186 2010-06-30T18:12:06 <dreimark> ei-grad: are there open questions for AD ?
187 2010-06-30T18:12:08 <TheSheep> I guess that's out
188 2010-06-30T18:12:42 <TheSheep> http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-author/#polyglot-documents
189 2010-06-30T18:12:48 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: ie6, 7, 8 - which are broken?
190 2010-06-30T18:13:34 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: all :)
191 2010-06-30T18:14:03 <ThomasWaldmann> oh well
192 2010-06-30T18:14:33 <dreimark> they will have 9 published at moin-2.0
193 2010-06-30T18:14:54 * TheSheep can't wait for new bugs :(
194 2010-06-30T18:15:00 <dreimark> or they give up development of browsers
195 2010-06-30T18:15:06 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, and some poeple will still have xp with IE6 or 7
196 2010-06-30T18:15:10 <TheSheep> alleluiah
197 2010-06-30T18:16:45 <ei-grad> dreimark: Yeah, but I need time to understand and explain it more clearly...
198 2010-06-30T18:18:40 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe seeing midterm with 2 half-working halves of a project is no good idea
199 2010-06-30T18:19:19 <ei-grad> i hope i will finish first part before it
200 2010-06-30T18:22:50 <ei-grad> current tasks for LDAPGroups implementation are to deal with that it doesn't support nested groups, and you want me to add more tests for it, right?
201 2010-06-30T18:23:43 <dreimark> yes but also that you work on AD and add a page about differences
202 2010-06-30T18:24:04 <dreimark> so that you can discuss easier what the problems of the implementation is
203 2010-06-30T18:24:12 <dreimark> also that we can make later help pages
204 2010-06-30T18:24:16 <ThomasWaldmann> the end result needs to be usable by a AD and OpenLDAP using moin user
205 2010-06-30T18:24:53 <dreimark> also we can add on the page too
206 2010-06-30T18:25:55 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: xhtml with a few contraints is valid html5
207 2010-06-30T18:26:01 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: so I guess we can use it
208 2010-06-30T18:26:15 <ThomasWaldmann> and if it is on the wiki, it should be a HowTo. For inclusion in the distribution, we need 1:1 usable CHANGES entries and one or multiple self-explaining snippets
209 2010-06-30T18:26:18 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: the constraints are at http://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/HTML_vs._XHTML
210 2010-06-30T18:35:11 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
211 2010-06-30T18:38:19 <ei-grad> Maybe I am wrong to split the functional on two separated backends - we can provide support for nested groups with only a 'member', waldi once remarked that it is symmetric with memberOf, but there are some moments when we have difficulty to go from this side to MoinMoin, and using the memberOf (making it optional) can significantly reduce the number of operations.
212 2010-06-30T18:39:38 * ThomasWaldmann doesn't have much ldap exposure, so I can't comment here
213 2010-06-30T18:40:11 <waldi> ei-grad: i think you need to start deeper. if moin it using the group stores wrong, it needs to be changed first
214 2010-06-30T18:41:09 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: lulug?
215 2010-06-30T18:41:24 <waldi> yeah, no shack today
216 2010-06-30T18:42:16 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: i had a look at "flask extensions" docs
217 2010-06-30T18:43:13 <ThomasWaldmann> it somehow sounds like this is only intended to extend flask, but technically I think it could be also other extensions
218 2010-06-30T18:44:07 <ThomasWaldmann> but aside from some before/after request stuff and requirements for naming/packaging, there isn't much
219 2010-06-30T18:45:00 <ei-grad> waldi: sometimes it seems to me that it was not right to make working with nested groups in the groups backend. Would not it be more correct if those involved in ACL?
220 2010-06-30T18:45:45 <waldi> ei-grad: EPARSE. what does groups have to do with ACL?
221 2010-06-30T18:52:03 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, rakia, schnaps, jaegermeister, (all flask release codenames)
222 2010-06-30T18:52:18 <ThomasWaldmann> does it help with flask when being drunk? <g>
223 2010-06-30T18:54:08 <ThomasWaldmann> http://flask.pocoo.org/docs/changelog/#version-0-4 < btw, I like those anchors that appear on mouseover in the headlines, we should have that, too
224 2010-06-30T18:54:51 <ei-grad> In each backend, code responsible for supporting nested groups doing the same thing. It seems to me it would be logical if the module responsible for processing ACL will decide to consider that the user is a group member, if he is a member of another group embedded into the first.
225 2010-06-30T18:55:01 <ei-grad> What is 'EPARSE'?
226 2010-06-30T18:55:55 <ei-grad> hm... wrong said...
227 2010-06-30T18:57:05 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: groups are not limited to groups of users used in ACLs
228 2010-06-30T18:57:29 <ThomasWaldmann> you could also have groups of wiki pagenames
229 2010-06-30T18:57:42 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe unlikely to find them in ldap, but you get the idea :)
230 2010-06-30T18:58:56 <ei-grad> hm... yeah...
231 2010-06-30T19:12:52 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: purple links
232 2010-06-30T19:13:09 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: there is a short js snippet that adds them
233 2010-06-30T19:13:40 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: having those links is actually the number one reason why people want tables of contents
234 2010-06-30T19:19:21 <dreimark> bbl
235 2010-06-30T19:27:20 <ei-grad> strange loop... http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/011bbc010d40/MoinMoin/datastruct/backends/_tests/__init__.py#l189
236 2010-06-30T19:28:53 <ei-grad> ThomasWaldmann: what the group of wiki pagenames is about? where it is used? you mean not just a categories, right?
237 2010-06-30T19:44:26 *** grzywacz
238 2010-06-30T19:57:44 *** kursor
239 2010-06-30T19:57:48 <dreimark> ei-grad: it can be used for everything. in the past for example we used a page to collect all pages from one languange
240 2010-06-30T19:57:59 <dreimark> e.g. a SystemPagesGroup page
241 2010-06-30T19:58:25 <dreimark> has all systempages listed
242 2010-06-30T20:00:25 <dreimark> it is also used for some programs to collect pages to do something with those pages
243 2010-06-30T20:13:07 *** DmitryAndreev
244 2010-06-30T20:44:13 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: currently it is not used that much used other than for users
245 2010-06-30T21:36:45 *** grad
246 2010-06-30T21:37:00 *** ei-grad
247 2010-06-30T21:37:34 *** grad
248 2010-06-30T21:37:49 *** ei-grad
249 2010-06-30T21:56:24 <ei-grad> damned freebsd... http://itmages.ru/image/view/41946/e5a6f6a2
250 2010-06-30T22:08:10 *** grad
251 2010-06-30T22:10:23 *** ei-grad
252 2010-06-30T22:25:49 *** waldi
253 2010-06-30T23:05:38 <ThomasWaldmann> re
254 2010-06-30T23:21:51 <valeuf> do you plan some keyword system for the metadata ?
255 2010-06-30T23:27:16 <ThomasWaldmann> it currently accepts any keys
256 2010-06-30T23:27:25 <valeuf> ok
257 2010-06-30T23:28:06 <valeuf> we can see later, but I am still thinking that some part of document conversion should handle meta-data, maybe not directly in the converter, at a upper level probably
258 2010-06-30T23:44:14 *** waldi
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