1 2012-03-18T00:16:05 <raom> To be honest, I have not really worked with wikis before (I was hoping to learn more about it while doing a project of this sort). I can imagine that there would be a lot of crap files/info that would need to be merged for a multiple wikis to put in a farm together
2 2012-03-18T00:18:06 <ThomasWaldmann> that idea mostly requires good planning and python coding
3 2012-03-18T00:21:05 <raom> I am quite happy coding in Python, and would be happy to come up with a good plan with you once I get a better understanding of what is involved.
4 2012-03-18T00:21:54 <ThomasWaldmann> create 2 wikis, create some users in both (with distinct names as well as with same name)
5 2012-03-18T00:22:35 <ThomasWaldmann> then imagine one user forgot his password and creates just a new user
6 2012-03-18T00:22:51 <ThomasWaldmann> then a spammer comes by and creates some more users
7 2012-03-18T00:23:23 <ThomasWaldmann> then look at both user/ directories and what profiles you have there
8 2012-03-18T00:28:15 <raom> Do I need to use the farmconfig.py script as described here:http://moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration?
9 2012-03-18T00:28:29 <raom> I am not sure as you said that we are not doing a farm
10 2012-03-18T00:29:27 <ThomasWaldmann> you can just have 2 separate wikis
11 2012-03-18T00:30:04 <raom> This will probably sound like a stupid question, but how do I do that?
12 2012-03-18T00:32:01 <ThomasWaldmann> well, you can just unpack the moin tgz at 2 places and run it in place
13 2012-03-18T00:32:16 <ThomasWaldmann> (that not the usual setup, but the simplest way)
14 2012-03-18T00:40:16 <raom> I was running it using "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart", I am assuming that is not the right way to run it in place. Do you mean running "python wikiserver.py"? That does not seem to do anything when I run it.
15 2012-03-18T00:46:43 <ThomasWaldmann> for development purposes you usually don't "install" moin
16 2012-03-18T00:46:58 <ThomasWaldmann> but just run python wikiserver.py in the workdir
17 2012-03-18T00:50:41 <ThomasWaldmann> (for moin 1.9 ^^ - for moin2 you have a "moin" command in your virtualenv)
18 2012-03-18T00:53:16 <raom> Is it normal that running "python wikiserver.py" does not seem to do anything?
19 2012-03-18T00:53:28 <raom> I am running it from the highest level of the unpacked tarball
20 2012-03-18T00:55:49 <ThomasWaldmann> it should output some log messages
21 2012-03-18T01:01:51 <ThomasWaldmann> what python version do you have?
22 2012-03-18T01:10:11 <raom> 2.7
23 2012-03-18T01:12:01 <ThomasWaldmann> so, do you see log output?
24 2012-03-18T01:12:13 <raom> no
25 2012-03-18T01:12:39 <raom> Do I need to link where I unpacked my tarball to somewhere else?
26 2012-03-18T01:13:04 <raom> I don't remember seeing anything like that on the install guide I followed, but I think you mentioned something like that before
27 2012-03-18T01:14:07 <ThomasWaldmann> download, unpack, cd there, python wikiserver.py
28 2012-03-18T01:14:31 <ThomasWaldmann> (no install)
29 2012-03-18T01:14:52 <raom> I have done that
30 2012-03-18T01:15:57 <raom> I am really sorry but I need to leave. I will try downloading the package again tomorrow and see what happens.
31 2012-03-18T01:16:23 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, cu
32 2012-03-18T01:16:41 <raom> Thanks for all your help, I hope that we can keep in touch and see if we can agree on a good project for this summer :-)
33 2012-03-18T01:21:28 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, that would be great
34 2012-03-18T01:23:12 *** raom
35 2012-03-18T05:06:56 *** yufra_
36 2012-03-18T05:09:03 *** yufra_
37 2012-03-18T05:45:51 *** surtani
38 2012-03-18T06:06:10 *** kanha_
39 2012-03-18T06:07:11 *** kanha
40 2012-03-18T06:46:41 *** kanha
41 2012-03-18T06:47:22 *** surtani
42 2012-03-18T06:47:29 *** surtani
43 2012-03-18T06:50:40 <kanha> esyr:Hi
44 2012-03-18T06:51:41 <kanha> esyr:are you the mentor for the ideas 'Improve DOM converters' ?
45 2012-03-18T06:53:36 *** pjhades
46 2012-03-18T06:56:31 <kanha> I am very much interested with this idea and also with the idea 'Improve moin-related xml code' and i want to take these as my gsoc project.
47 2012-03-18T07:02:20 <kanha> i had done some research on it and would like to discuss with you.
48 2012-03-18T08:14:36 *** yufra_
49 2012-03-18T08:29:38 <eSyr> kanha: ok, good.
50 2012-03-18T08:30:13 <eSyr> kanha: which format of discussion do you prefer? Generally, we can discuss your ideas here.
51 2012-03-18T08:35:17 <kanha> which format means?is there any other format?
52 2012-03-18T08:38:14 <kanha> esyr:moin
53 2012-03-18T08:39:55 <eSyr> kanha: i don't know, may be you prefer to discuss it privately :)
54 2012-03-18T08:39:58 <eSyr> moin.
55 2012-03-18T08:40:31 <kanha> ok then pm
56 2012-03-18T09:04:05 <kanha> esyr:i send you a link did you got it
57 2012-03-18T09:09:13 *** breton
58 2012-03-18T09:09:54 <breton> Hi!
59 2012-03-18T09:10:35 <breton> well, at least 2 known familiar nicks here.
60 2012-03-18T10:07:27 *** breton
61 2012-03-18T10:08:24 *** 16WAAGGVR
62 2012-03-18T10:10:15 <breton> s/known//
63 2012-03-18T10:14:28 *** breton
64 2012-03-18T10:14:39 *** bretonium
65 2012-03-18T14:00:23 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
66 2012-03-18T14:14:11 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: if students do not want to publish their proposal on the wiki, they can have a acl protected page, so only mentor can read it (not other students)
67 2012-03-18T14:15:30 <ThomasWaldmann> hi bretonium
68 2012-03-18T14:15:54 <eSyr> kanha: ^^^
69 2012-03-18T14:16:51 <kanha> yes
70 2012-03-18T14:18:12 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: hi
71 2012-03-18T14:24:32 <ThomasWaldmann> did you find something interesting?
72 2012-03-18T14:26:30 <bretonium> in projects? Well, prioritized the list. Looking at moins code now. And eSyr promised me some difficult tasks too :)
73 2012-03-18T14:32:34 <ThomasWaldmann> you're looking at moin/2.0 repo?
74 2012-03-18T14:33:15 <bretonium> yes. Cloned it already.
75 2012-03-18T14:39:48 *** yufra_
76 2012-03-18T14:53:38 *** surtani
77 2012-03-18T14:56:55 <ThomasWaldmann> kanha: that Gsoc2012Proposal wiki page name looks strange, please rename it to the right place
78 2012-03-18T14:59:06 <kanha> yeah i know am correcting it
79 2012-03-18T15:19:16 <ThomasWaldmann> pagename != http://... url
80 2012-03-18T15:25:25 <kanha> i gave the page name as http://moin... but its showing http:/ ?
81 2012-03-18T15:27:01 <ThomasWaldmann> pagenames are not urls
82 2012-03-18T15:27:47 <kanha> oh
83 2012-03-18T15:29:54 <kanha> done
84 2012-03-18T15:33:22 <ThomasWaldmann> yup, better now :)
85 2012-03-18T15:46:28 *** RogerHaase
86 2012-03-18T15:48:58 *** pjhades
87 2012-03-18T15:51:45 *** rebe11ion
88 2012-03-18T15:51:52 *** rebe11ion
89 2012-03-18T15:52:32 *** pjhades
90 2012-03-18T15:54:36 <pjhades> Hi, I cloned moin 2.0, but how can I run it in place? Maybe it's silly question, I have googled for the answer, but still can't find the file 'wikiserver.py'. I can only run moin with virtualenv now. I tried deploying it on nginx but failed :(
91 2012-03-18T15:55:41 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2 has good install docs
92 2012-03-18T15:56:03 <bretonium> pjhades: have you run quickinstall?
93 2012-03-18T15:56:22 <pjhades> yes
94 2012-03-18T15:56:31 <ThomasWaldmann> and it is enough for development purposes if you can run it with virtualenv and the builtin server.
95 2012-03-18T15:57:02 <bretonium> pjhades: now do something like ``source env/bin/activate", cd to docs and run ``make html"
96 2012-03-18T15:58:21 <ThomasWaldmann> pjhades: and wikiserver.py only exists in moin 1.x
97 2012-03-18T15:58:26 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: the funny thing is that installation instructions are in the docs, and to use the docs you need to install moin.
98 2012-03-18T15:58:59 <ThomasWaldmann> the docs are linked from the MoinMoin2.0 wiki page, as most other ressources
99 2012-03-18T15:59:03 <eSyr> bretonium: there should be readme iirc.
100 2012-03-18T15:59:36 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: and then you open docs and see there instructions on how to use virtualenv and how to run the server
101 2012-03-18T16:00:17 <bretonium> eSyr: there are only two links - http://moinmo.in/ and http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinAcknowledgements
102 2012-03-18T16:02:12 <ThomasWaldmann> that MoinMoin2.0 page is even linked from the front page (and also from the ideas page)
103 2012-03-18T16:03:10 <ThomasWaldmann> as moin2 is not released yet, much stuff on the wiki is still for 1.x
104 2012-03-18T16:09:57 <CIA-41> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 1294:140cc1ee676d 2.0/README.txt: add moin2 specific hint to README.txt, point to the MoinMoin2.0 wiki page
105 2012-03-18T16:10:10 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: pjhades: ^^
106 2012-03-18T16:17:50 <bretonium> Don't look at me, I was ok without it
107 2012-03-18T16:23:09 <pjhades> ThomasWaldmann: i've pulled the code. virtualenv is ok for dev purposes. just now i was confused by the differences between the two versions. Thanks :)
108 2012-03-18T16:31:12 *** pjhades
109 2012-03-18T16:35:13 *** kanha
110 2012-03-18T17:11:29 <ThomasWaldmann> http://fsymbols.com/all/
111 2012-03-18T17:14:04 *** surtani
112 2012-03-18T17:21:12 <dreimark> moin
113 2012-03-18T17:21:40 * dreimark bans a symbol
114 2012-03-18T17:29:36 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I added update to fix transclusion links for wiki's not running at server root: http://codereview.appspot.com/5797063/
115 2012-03-18T17:29:38 <ThomasWaldmann> these unicode symbols even work in vim (utf-8), but have width issues there
116 2012-03-18T17:31:21 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: ok, i have a look
117 2012-03-18T17:31:39 <dreimark> BBL
118 2012-03-18T17:35:25 *** grzywacz
119 2012-03-18T17:41:18 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: eSyr: ^^ maybe some more people should review that changeset
120 2012-03-18T17:46:33 <RogerHaase> This may help: compare http://test.moinmo.in/transclusion to: http://www.digitalrockart.org/moin2/transclusion
121 2012-03-18T17:49:18 <RogerHaase> also: http://test.moinmo.in/logotransclude to: http://www.digitalrockart.org/moin2/logotransclude (check for html validation errors)
122 2012-03-18T17:54:34 <RogerHaase> also: http://test.moinmo.in/HTMLerror to: http://www.digitalrockart.org/moin2/HTMLerror (check for html validation error)
123 2012-03-18T17:59:58 <ThomasWaldmann> (note that the test.moinmo.in might not be latest code. otoh, there might be no recent change in that part of the code.)
124 2012-03-18T18:01:15 <RogerHaase> same errors are present in current tip
125 2012-03-18T18:02:29 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
126 2012-03-18T18:04:03 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, submitted a few comments
127 2012-03-18T18:04:35 <ThomasWaldmann> i am still a bit unsure whether that is the right way
128 2012-03-18T18:05:17 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. these check whether something is a p and then do special stuff
129 2012-03-18T18:05:52 <ThomasWaldmann> is it maybe rather about something being a block level element or not?
130 2012-03-18T18:07:04 <ThomasWaldmann> when looking at it from a high level, we have these cases:
131 2012-03-18T18:07:56 <ThomasWaldmann> block context does a transclusion that returns either inline or block stuff.
132 2012-03-18T18:08:16 <ThomasWaldmann> inline context does a transclusion that returns either inline or block stuff.
133 2012-03-18T18:08:56 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we could even tell the transclude what we'ld like to get back
134 2012-03-18T18:09:38 <ThomasWaldmann> (somehow i vaguely remember we already had that topic some time ago)
135 2012-03-18T18:10:14 <RogerHaase> If you look at include.py history, Luis Fagundes added the mangling 4 months ago
136 2012-03-18T18:12:08 <RogerHaase> I rewrote it because of changes to transclusion and fix other bugs.
137 2012-03-18T18:21:44 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.digitalrockart.org/moin2/transclusion < aah, much nicer :)
138 2012-03-18T18:22:56 <ThomasWaldmann> so from the output produced, it looks like a definite improvement
139 2012-03-18T18:26:09 * ThomasWaldmann tries to look at full src files to get a better overall picture
140 2012-03-18T18:35:22 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, thanks for adding all those comments
141 2012-03-18T18:35:57 <RogerHaase> I needed them for myself :)
142 2012-03-18T18:37:31 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, quite complex code
143 2012-03-18T18:47:14 *** sudo_dirk
144 2012-03-18T18:49:34 <dreimark> RogerHaase: cool stuff
145 2012-03-18T18:52:29 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: currently asking myself why we need that mark_item_as_transclusion in html converter AND in include converter
146 2012-03-18T18:55:31 <ThomasWaldmann> from what is does, it seems to be html_out related only, right?
147 2012-03-18T18:56:05 <dreimark> just a question because of all workarounds in http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/1ddf7d88c53d/MoinMoin/parser/text_moin_wiki.py#l1344
148 2012-03-18T18:56:19 <dreimark> are they also addressed now
149 2012-03-18T18:56:47 <dreimark> grep "line in that code
150 2012-03-18T18:57:17 <RogerHaase> The mark_item.. in html_out.py is for objects, and the one in include.py is for pages (I think).
151 2012-03-18T19:01:23 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, yes, but there is also a visit_moinpage_page, couldn't it call mark_item_... there?
152 2012-03-18T19:02:22 <ThomasWaldmann> (just think about that we might NOT output html, but pure text, or docbook, or whatever)
153 2012-03-18T19:06:34 <ThomasWaldmann> (we can fix such stuff in a later changeset also, just noticed it)
154 2012-03-18T19:09:08 <RogerHaase> I will give it a try, I agree it makes sence to move it to html_out.
155 2012-03-18T19:10:48 <RogerHaase> back in 20 minutes
156 2012-03-18T19:26:57 *** yufra_
157 2012-03-18T19:39:32 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: see melange notification, i applied
158 2012-03-18T19:39:44 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: the mark_item... move looks like more than a line of code. So separate changeset.
159 2012-03-18T19:41:38 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
160 2012-03-18T19:45:22 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: RogerHaase look at http://codereview.appspot.com/5685057/ now implemented :)
161 2012-03-18T19:46:38 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: as mentor role is now included in admin role, i guess we need to do that differently
162 2012-03-18T19:46:55 *** in3xes
163 2012-03-18T19:46:55 <ThomasWaldmann> so you linkid is rb_proj?
164 2012-03-18T19:47:01 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes
165 2012-03-18T19:50:44 <dreimark> that ui is strange, "You can now apply to Google Summer of Code." I guess i should not see that if i am a mentor
166 2012-03-18T19:54:29 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: check your email
167 2012-03-18T19:58:29 * dreimark done accepted too
168 2012-03-18T19:59:33 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: Members of my organizations did not list your account
169 2012-03-18T20:00:00 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, i am also wondering about that
170 2012-03-18T20:01:57 <in3xes> SoC discussions should be done dev channel?
171 2012-03-18T20:02:47 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
172 2012-03-18T20:08:06 *** in3xes
173 2012-03-18T20:16:18 *** in3xes
174 2012-03-18T20:21:39 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: yeah, already noticed the blue line
175 2012-03-18T20:26:08 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: another little comment on cr. if noone else is reviewing, i guess you can commit it as is and we fix the issues in subsequent changesets.
176 2012-03-18T20:26:48 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: btw: is fixing or replacing the built-in server a big enough project for SOC? I changed the priority of issue #36 to minor, but now regret it. IE9 is unusable with the built-in server.
177 2012-03-18T20:27:00 <RogerHaase> OK, will commit.
178 2012-03-18T20:28:26 <ThomasWaldmann> that server is from werkzeug
179 2012-03-18T20:28:50 <ThomasWaldmann> so i guess rather not. is there a bug open there for it?
180 2012-03-18T20:29:20 <RogerHaase> yes, #36
181 2012-03-18T20:29:48 <RogerHaase> oops, misunderstood. Will look for werkzueg bug
182 2012-03-18T20:31:37 <ThomasWaldmann> it is also the question whether it is a bug in that server (in general or only on windows), or in IE/Chrome
183 2012-03-18T20:40:59 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: lets ask on #pocoo
184 2012-03-18T20:54:29 *** sudo_dirk
185 2012-03-18T21:03:17 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: For the threaded built-in server, I think we need a start-up option that is easy to change. Will the present development platform replace the 1.9 desktop edition?
186 2012-03-18T21:05:54 <ThomasWaldmann> as i said on #pocoo, it could be moin moin --threaded / moin moin --processes=N and needs to be changed in flask-script
187 2012-03-18T21:06:31 <bretonium> using tornado (or something else) as a built-in server maybe?
188 2012-03-18T21:07:19 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: one can use any server that supports wsgi, but for the most simple install, I'ld like to keep the werkzeug server as we have that as dependency anyway
189 2012-03-18T21:07:20 *** MattMaker
190 2012-03-18T21:07:21 *** Trip__
191 2012-03-18T21:07:48 *** MattMaker
192 2012-03-18T21:08:19 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: yes, i think we'll use the dev server for desktop also. either in exactly the same way, or maybe in some preinstalled/bundled way
193 2012-03-18T21:10:41 <RogerHaase> OK, since I have the problem and can test if it is working or not, I will take a look at flask-script.
194 2012-03-18T21:11:50 *** Trip__
195 2012-03-18T21:12:48 *** MattMaker
196 2012-03-18T21:15:37 <ThomasWaldmann> https://github.com/rduplain/flask-script/issues/30
197 2012-03-18T21:17:06 *** MattMaker
198 2012-03-18T21:21:37 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: I pushed the transclude fix to https://bitbucket.org/RogerHaase/moin-2.0-temp
199 2012-03-18T21:22:14 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
200 2012-03-18T21:32:52 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: did you also get 12 test failures?
201 2012-03-18T21:35:50 *** in3xes
202 2012-03-18T21:38:28 <RogerHaase> ========= 5 failed, 865 passed, 58 skipped, 1 error in 110.34 seconds ==========, runing again to double check
203 2012-03-18T21:42:30 <ThomasWaldmann> it all seems to be somehow lxml/xpath related
204 2012-03-18T21:44:21 <RogerHaase> Same results. http://paste.pocoo.org/show/567565/
205 2012-03-18T21:46:10 <ThomasWaldmann> interesting. completely different from mine. X)
206 2012-03-18T21:52:26 <RogerHaase> I have no idea why I went from 58 skipped to 322 skipped (on paste...). But I ran it again and I get 322 skipped.
207 2012-03-18T21:58:04 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, made a clean virtualenv now have 0 fails
208 2012-03-18T21:58:23 <ThomasWaldmann> =================== 871 passed, 57 skipped in 76.49 seconds ====================
209 2012-03-18T21:59:12 <CIA-41> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 1295:4237934df124 2.0/MoinMoin/ (7 files in 6 dirs): rework transclusion overlay patch - improve transcluded item visibility, fix HTML validation errors, fixes #132 and #164
210 2012-03-18T21:59:13 <CIA-41> Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 1296:733cb34e4c50 2.0/README.txt: merge
211 2012-03-18T22:08:57 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: minor typo corrections to install docs: http://codereview.appspot.com/5853043/
212 2012-03-18T22:13:07 <ThomasWaldmann> looks ok
213 2012-03-18T22:23:08 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, looks like fileserver backend only works on posix (with /, not with windows \ )
214 2012-03-18T22:31:18 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: os.sep is '\\' for windows, right?
215 2012-03-18T22:32:20 <RogerHaase> right
216 2012-03-18T22:39:42 <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.ubuntu.com/889847/ can you try if that patch fixes test_fileserver?
217 2012-03-18T22:39:48 <ThomasWaldmann> on windows
218 2012-03-18T22:42:20 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: ^
219 2012-03-18T22:46:58 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, no, needs more changes
220 2012-03-18T22:49:07 <dreimark> gn
221 2012-03-18T22:49:55 <RogerHaase> patch failed to apply: 3 of 3 hunks
222 2012-03-18T22:50:53 <RogerHaase> I don't have ubuntu account so pocoo is easier
223 2012-03-18T22:51:30 <RogerHaase> maybe my copy and paste messed up patch.
224 2012-03-18T22:56:12 <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.ubuntu.com/889869/
225 2012-03-18T22:56:17 <ThomasWaldmann> use wget
226 2012-03-18T22:56:29 <ThomasWaldmann> or the download link ther
227 2012-03-18T22:56:30 <ThomasWaldmann> e
228 2012-03-18T22:57:05 <bretonium> hmm, got any "easy" moin2-bugs to fix?
229 2012-03-18T22:58:38 <RogerHaase> wget is linux thingy. it demands login to use download link.
230 2012-03-18T22:58:46 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: http://moinmo.in/EasyToDo check if you find something there
231 2012-03-18T22:58:59 <ThomasWaldmann> (always first reproduce bugs)
232 2012-03-18T22:59:11 <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: argh
233 2012-03-18T23:00:37 <RogerHaase> trying copy and paste with different editor...
234 2012-03-18T23:03:05 <RogerHaase> better - 6 of 7 failed. Is the patch at moin2 tip?
235 2012-03-18T23:03:12 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
236 2012-03-18T23:07:35 <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/567606/
237 2012-03-18T23:07:57 * ThomasWaldmann killed the crap pastebinit of ubuntu and uses lodgeit.py now
238 2012-03-18T23:08:20 <bretonium> well, no easy code bugs left
239 2012-03-18T23:09:11 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: pity i am just fixing one :D
240 2012-03-18T23:10:09 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/567565/ have a look there. i am fixing the fileserver issue, but there are some more maybe.
241 2012-03-18T23:11:44 <RogerHaase> must be something wrong with the old repo I am using. Will clone a new one.
242 2012-03-18T23:12:38 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: do you use git also?
243 2012-03-18T23:15:09 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: well, in fact, I mainly use git, not hg. In mercurial I know only some basic operations.
244 2012-03-18T23:15:41 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, if you like, you can fix the flask-script issue i just filed in their issue tracker
245 2012-03-18T23:15:52 <ThomasWaldmann> and do a pull-request there
246 2012-03-18T23:15:52 <bretonium> === 1 failed, 868 passed, 57 skipped in 54.47 seconds ===
247 2012-03-18T23:16:08 <ThomasWaldmann> will make roger happier :)
248 2012-03-18T23:18:11 <bretonium> MoinMoin/util/_tests/test_filesys.py:162: AssertionError
249 2012-03-18T23:18:55 <ThomasWaldmann> post the full traceback to paste.pocoo.org if you want me to look
250 2012-03-18T23:21:59 <bretonium> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/567612/. It's 03:20 here, so if that one is not critical, I'd like to fix it tomorrow.
251 2012-03-18T23:22:06 <ThomasWaldmann> sure
252 2012-03-18T23:23:14 <bretonium> and that flask issue, in case rduplain doesn't fix it.
253 2012-03-18T23:23:42 <ThomasWaldmann> what fs is that?
254 2012-03-18T23:24:29 <bretonium> err, in that traceback? You mean, os filesystem?
255 2012-03-18T23:25:05 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
256 2012-03-18T23:25:27 <bretonium> ext4
257 2012-03-18T23:25:47 <ThomasWaldmann> interesting. ok, good night. :)
258 2012-03-18T23:28:43 <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: 4 failed: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/567614/
259 2012-03-18T23:28:48 <xorAxAx> sorted
260 2012-03-18T23:28:52 <xorAxAx> is missing
261 2012-03-18T23:30:20 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: isn't it usually sorted?
262 2012-03-18T23:30:27 <xorAxAx> not at all
263 2012-03-18T23:30:47 <ThomasWaldmann> it doesn't fail here :)
264 2012-03-18T23:30:48 <xorAxAx> listdir may return files in arbritrary order
265 2012-03-18T23:30:58 <ThomasWaldmann> ext4
266 2012-03-18T23:31:41 <ThomasWaldmann> you just spoiled an easy bugfix btw :)
267 2012-03-18T23:32:46 <xorAxAx> easy bugfix?
268 2012-03-18T23:33:29 <ThomasWaldmann> he's a potential SOC student and wanted to do an easy bug fix
269 2012-03-18T23:33:46 <bretonium> oh, it's not ext4. /tmp/ is in tmpfs
270 2012-03-18T23:33:56 <bretonium> though I've already found out :)
271 2012-03-18T23:35:04 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, ok, that at least explains the difference
272 2012-03-18T23:36:04 <RogerHaase> this may be an easy bug fix: https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/issue/165/modify-page-fails-html-validation
273 2012-03-18T23:37:12 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
274 2012-03-18T23:38:07 *** MattMaker
275 2012-03-18T23:38:25 <RogerHaase> gtg
276 2012-03-18T23:38:39 *** RogerHaase
277 2012-03-18T23:41:58 <bretonium> hmm, I don't see any options in moin2 for text direction.
278 2012-03-18T23:42:42 <xorAxAx> real men turn their monitor by 180° when using moin2
279 2012-03-18T23:44:06 <bretonium> ThomasWaldmann: any plans on that?
280 2012-03-18T23:46:59 <ThomasWaldmann> bretonium: in moin1 we had a lanuage metadata item and macros to set language (and iirc also directon)
281 2012-03-18T23:47:42 <ThomasWaldmann> do you speak a language that is rtl?
282 2012-03-18T23:47:49 <bretonium> nope
283 2012-03-18T23:47:52 <xorAxAx> i dont think so :)
284 2012-03-18T23:48:18 <bretonium> But html validator does and requires non-empty dir. Or no dir at all.
285 2012-03-18T23:48:52 <bretonium> xorAxAx: well, looking at my hostname someone could say I do
286 2012-03-18T23:49:07 <xorAxAx> bretonium: you dont have a hostname :)
287 2012-03-18T23:49:08 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess we could just remove dir for now and add it later when we really support it
288 2012-03-18T23:49:28 <xorAxAx> bretonium: is arabian, farsi or hebrew spread in .uz?
289 2012-03-18T23:50:07 <bretonium> xorAxAx: nope. But you can find people who use it without any problems.
290 2012-03-18T23:50:16 *** MattMaker
291 2012-03-18T23:50:17 <bretonium> xorAxAx: in uz
292 2012-03-18T23:51:00 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess we'll wait until some maintainer for such stuff appears
293 2012-03-18T23:51:34 <ThomasWaldmann> without such, it is just a pain as non-rtl people don't get it anyway (and also have no big interest usually)
294 2012-03-18T23:52:28 * ThomasWaldmann tried rtl stuff now and then, but it is very confusing, esp. when mixed with ltr words or phrases
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