2006-06-05T00:08:42  * xorAxAx notes that we wont travel through the gotthard tunnel
2006-06-05T10:13:59  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2006-06-05T10:16:04  <richardb> moin
2006-06-05T10:50:33  <ThomasWaldmann> moin richardb, how's it going? :)
2006-06-05T10:50:45  <richardb> Not bad.
2006-06-05T10:50:53  <richardb> Back to work today.
2006-06-05T10:51:07  <richardb> Have been catching up on email, etc.
2006-06-05T10:51:13  <richardb> Have you heard from fpletz lately?
2006-06-05T12:49:41  <ThomasWaldmann> richardb: no. last time i asked a week ago he had exams to do.
2006-06-05T12:50:13  <richardb> He should be free now... I'll chase him up.
2006-06-05T13:05:13  <ThomasWaldmann> :)
2006-06-05T16:25:00  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2006-06-05T17:25:18  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: my sync test wiki is not automatically updated
2006-06-05T18:59:21  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Do you have a minute?
2006-06-05T18:59:33  <richardb> Yep
2006-06-05T18:59:52  <richardb> Ack.
2006-06-05T19:00:48  <mvirkkil> richardb: ?
2006-06-05T19:26:16  <fpletz> hi there
2006-06-05T19:26:36  <fpletz> I'm sorry for my hiding, had some personal matters to attend to the last couple of days
2006-06-05T19:26:43  <richardb> No problem.
2006-06-05T19:26:50  <richardb> Only just got back myself. :)
2006-06-05T19:27:01  <richardb> How've you been getting on?
2006-06-05T19:27:55  <mvirkkil> Is ThomasWaldmann in the UTC-2 tz?
2006-06-05T19:28:04  <fpletz> well, unfortunately I was not able to do much by now.. I'll start real work ;)
2006-06-05T19:28:20  <richardb> As long as you get down to things this week, it shouldn't matter.
2006-06-05T19:28:46  <fpletz> yep, I'm completly free this week
2006-06-05T19:29:09  <fpletz> no exam, no family here ;)
2006-06-05T19:29:22  <richardb> :) Have you got an overview of where you need to slot in the new search stuff now?
2006-06-05T19:31:02  <fpletz> mostly for the indexer, I'm going to review and clean up thomas' first implementation
2006-06-05T19:31:23  <richardb> Might be worth keeping a diary of what you do, and what you're working on currently.
2006-06-05T19:31:24  <fpletz> I think the xapwrap stuff is pretty usable but a few modifications could be useful
2006-06-05T19:31:32  <fpletz> will do
2006-06-05T19:31:52  <richardb> Perhaps on the FeatureRequests/AdvancedXapianSearch page, or elsewhere in the wiki.
2006-06-05T19:33:02  <richardb> Okay, as long as you're happy with xapwrap.
2006-06-05T19:33:13  <richardb> I've not looked at it in great detail, still.
2006-06-05T19:33:50  <fpletz> ok, we'll see
2006-06-05T19:34:44  <richardb> I don't imagine it would be terribly hard to move to using the direct Xapian interface if necessary.
2006-06-05T19:34:49  <richardb> So, don't worry for now.
2006-06-05T19:35:53  <richardb> Incidentally, I see you've volunteered to package polypaudio...
2006-06-05T19:36:36  <richardb> Good luck with that. Sound servers seem to attract flamewars.  I remember trying to hack on esound and fix it up, years ago.
2006-06-05T19:38:57  <fpletz> thanks, it seems gnome will adopt it and until know I heard only positive comments about it
2006-06-05T19:39:12  <richardb> Yes, polypaudio looks to be a good thing.
2006-06-05T19:39:15  <fpletz> polypaudio also got nice esd emulating features
2006-06-05T19:39:26  <fpletz> you can even use esddsp for the mmap stuff ;)
2006-06-05T19:40:04  <richardb> If I'm reading the code correctly, xapwrap doesn't perform stemming.
2006-06-05T19:40:19  <richardb> Makes things simpler for you to start with, but you'll need to add that sort of thing later.
2006-06-05T19:42:18  <richardb> Anyway, let me know how you're getting on, etc.  I'll be around here.
2006-06-05T20:14:29  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: utc+2 and yes
2006-06-05T20:16:00  <ThomasWaldmann> fpletz: maybe begin with changing the queryparser to speak more directly to xapian,
2006-06-05T20:16:09  <ThomasWaldmann> and not use the xapian xp
2006-06-05T20:16:53  <ThomasWaldmann> and keep the rest as is until you have that
2006-06-05T20:18:12  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Ahh. Hi :)
2006-06-05T20:18:33  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: As you might remember I'm working on the moin docbook formatter
2006-06-05T20:18:42  <fpletz> ThomasWaldmann: ok, will do
2006-06-05T20:19:03  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoinDocBookProject
2006-06-05T20:20:12  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: sure :)
2006-06-05T20:20:14  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Well, I talked to my mentor about where to host the project, and while they were willing to supply me with a hosting server, I told them I'd be interested in asking, if I might get hosted with the other SoC projects.
2006-06-05T20:20:24  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: So, this is me asking :P
2006-06-05T20:20:41  <ThomasWaldmann> you can use the moin wiki of course.
2006-06-05T20:20:53  <ThomasWaldmann> and i can make a repo and a testwiki for you
2006-06-05T20:20:54  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: And xorAxAx mentioned the other day, that you were the person to talk to.
2006-06-05T20:21:12  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Well, that repo part and testwiki is what I'd really love to have.
2006-06-05T20:21:29  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, will make it now...
2006-06-05T20:21:55  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: It would allow me to develop openly and demo stuff to outsider as I go along.
2006-06-05T20:22:08  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Awesome :)
2006-06-05T20:22:53  <ThomasWaldmann> moin-1.6-docbook-mvirkillae ok as branch name?
2006-06-05T20:23:01  <mvirkkil> mvirkkil
2006-06-05T20:23:06  <mvirkkil> Would be better
2006-06-05T20:23:10  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2006-06-05T20:23:13  <mvirkkil> I use mvirkkil for everything
2006-06-05T20:24:16  <ThomasWaldmann> for initializing your repo, i can just clone the same point where our other students started? some recent 1.6 version.
2006-06-05T20:24:33  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Sounds good. So, how does it work exactly?
2006-06-05T20:24:54  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: The testwiki is running off of the repo?
2006-06-05T20:25:06  <xorAxAx> mine doesnt :)
2006-06-05T20:25:08  <ThomasWaldmann> you need hg (mercurial). 0.9 would be great, 0.8 is ok, too.
2006-06-05T20:25:10  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: have you looked at it :)
2006-06-05T20:25:16  <xorAxAx> ...?
2006-06-05T20:25:22  <ThomasWaldmann> will look at it later
2006-06-05T20:26:09  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Hmm.. I've got 0.7 -> need to upgrade then...
2006-06-05T20:26:50  <xorAxAx> ubuntu? :)
2006-06-05T20:28:03  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe 0.7 would work also, but i guess it is better to use 0.9, not a stoneage version
2006-06-05T20:30:38  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: i need your ssh pubkey by mail
2006-06-05T20:31:39  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: ok
2006-06-05T20:35:26  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: What's the address?
2006-06-05T20:35:53  <ThomasWaldmann> tw-public at gmx dot de
2006-06-05T20:37:14  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Sent
2006-06-05T20:37:29  <Kepplar> hi
2006-06-05T20:44:49  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: check if you can clone your repo, see http://hg.thinkmo.de
2006-06-05T20:45:23  <ThomasWaldmann> moin Kepplar
2006-06-05T20:50:33  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: please copy some docs/CHANGES.otherstudent and use it for your changes
2006-06-05T20:55:59  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: check sync.* now
2006-06-05T20:57:48  <xorAxAx> looks better
2006-06-05T20:58:19  <Kepplar> mvirkkil: whatr you working on?
2006-06-05T21:04:56  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: docbook.wikiwikiweb.de is your playground. it should auto-update when you push to your hg.thinkmo.de repo
2006-06-05T21:06:54  <ThomasWaldmann> dont put valuable content there, it is just for playing. moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de is for permanent stuff. moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de in case you have to update system or help pages.
2006-06-05T21:19:20  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Argh... Sorry for the delay.. My gf's dad came for a visit
2006-06-05T21:19:34  <mvirkkil> Ok, so.. First I need to update hg
2006-06-05T21:30:36  <mvirkkil> Hmm.. That was tricky.. Hopefully done now. I'll let you know if I run in to trouble
2006-06-05T21:30:55  <mvirkkil> Kepplar: See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MoinDocBookProject
2006-06-05T21:40:00  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Cloning seems to be working.. at least something is eating up all my bandwidth.. :)
2006-06-05T21:46:23  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: the more interesting part is committing :) maybe try with your copy of the CHANGES.xxx file
2006-06-05T21:49:00  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: I'll get to that... But my net connection isn't exactly fast, and this laptop I'm working on is pretty slow too..
2006-06-05T21:49:22  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Heh.. Speaking of the devil, it just finished the cloning :)
2006-06-05T21:50:29  <ThomasWaldmann> hg is very fast once you have done the initial cloning
2006-06-05T21:58:48  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Seems to work :)
2006-06-05T21:59:18  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Though it took me a few tries to remember my ssh key's password :O)
2006-06-05T22:05:07  *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ
2006-06-05T22:17:54  <mvirkkil> So, my changes file: In what part should I put the bugfixes for the formatter?
2006-06-05T22:18:52  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: i hope that we dont mind :)
2006-06-05T22:19:14  <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: It's going to be one confusing changes file :P
2006-06-05T22:19:33  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: under bugfixes? :)
2006-06-05T22:20:56  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: But some of the stuff wasn't "buggy" in main branch, because the feature was so broken, the page wouldn't get that far :P Ok, I'll use common sense :)
2006-06-05T22:21:32  <mvirkkil> I mean, that another bug was killing the parser, before it got to this other bug..
2006-06-05T22:28:46  <ThomasWaldmann> well, looking at count("bug") in last sentence, it should be under bugs :)
2006-06-05T22:40:11  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: How long should I wait after my commit, to see it in the testwiki?
2006-06-05T22:43:03  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: I can see that my push worked in the web frontend.
2006-06-05T22:43:21  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: But when I generate a docbook page, it's evident that it's not using my code.
2006-06-05T22:43:32  <ThomasWaldmann> wait
2006-06-05T22:45:08  <ThomasWaldmann> try after next push
2006-06-05T22:48:02  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: Now it works. Thanks :)
2006-06-05T22:54:30  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: please use utf-8 encoding in your name
2006-06-05T22:54:33  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: i.e. for hgrc
2006-06-05T22:55:27  * xorAxAx setup a mirror on http://moin.pocoo.org:8080/ with branchview functionality :)
2006-06-05T22:57:53  <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: xorAxAx I think I did.
2006-06-05T22:58:08  <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: --^
2006-06-05T22:58:11  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: hmm
2006-06-05T22:59:05  <xorAxAx> then its a bug in hg
2006-06-05T23:01:00  <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: Those two weid characters is the result of viewing the a with two dots in ISO-8859-1 when it's written in utf-8
2006-06-05T23:01:12  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: i know
2006-06-05T23:01:38  <xorAxAx> i called it a "finnish umlaut" :)
2006-06-05T23:02:12  <ThomasWaldmann> look into html, class "author" X)
2006-06-05T23:02:27  <ThomasWaldmann> they really should use more utf-8
2006-06-05T23:02:28  <mvirkkil> Just noticed the same thing...
2006-06-05T23:02:30  <mvirkkil> Wooh.
2006-06-05T23:02:41  <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: What is your terminal encoding?
2006-06-05T23:03:24  <mvirkkil> a with two dots = รค
2006-06-05T23:03:47  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: utf-8, why?
2006-06-05T23:04:00  <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: LOL, i know what you meant %-)
2006-06-05T23:10:56  <mvirkkil> Really nice, everything seems to work just dandy :)
2006-06-05T23:17:05  <xorAxAx> yeah, hg rocks
2006-06-05T23:20:39  <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: Well, I haven't looked in to hg enough to say that, but the fact that my commits get pushed in to a testwiki is really awesome.
2006-06-05T23:21:20  <mvirkkil> A really nice setup.
2006-06-05T23:24:58  <ThomasWaldmann> mvirkkil: i used the incoming hook of hg to update a workdir that is used by cgi
2006-06-05T23:26:45  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: put it into the repo :)
2006-06-05T23:27:48  <ThomasWaldmann> it is in the repo dir
2006-06-05T23:28:11  <xorAxAx> is it versioned?
2006-06-05T23:31:59  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
2006-06-05T23:32:13  <xorAxAx> i mean, you could commit it into the moin repo
2006-06-05T23:34:19  <ThomasWaldmann> commit what?
2006-06-05T23:34:54  <xorAxAx> the hook
2006-06-05T23:38:20  <ThomasWaldmann> hg update --clean ; hg merge # that's it
2006-06-05T23:43:22  <xorAxAx> ah

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