MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-29

2008-01-29T00:05:56  <dreimark> gn
2008-01-29T00:21:02  <forrestv_> Today is the last day for issue #103, and I have posted an update.
2008-01-29T00:24:28  <xorAxAx> forrestv_: i think we delayed you for a few days, so we will of course consider that
2008-01-29T01:55:01  * JordanCronin goes to get a bite to eat
2008-01-29T02:45:33  <JordanCronin> Can someone verify that http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/WhoLastModified/WhoLastModified.py is a valid py file?
2008-01-29T02:46:03  <JordanCronin> Someone originally posted the code as a page, and not as an attachment
2008-01-29T02:46:28  <JordanCronin> So I copied the code, and created a .py file - I'm just want to make sure I didn't mess anything up
2008-01-29T02:48:36  <JordanCronin> Whoops...
2008-01-29T02:49:04  <JordanCronin> Maybe you'll have to click on the attachment on the MacroMarket/WhoLastModified page
2008-01-29T04:17:39  * JordanCronin looks at the clock and sees that it is his bedtime
2008-01-29T09:36:06  <dreimark> JordanCronin: you can use the Save action to store to a file
2008-01-29T09:36:10  <dreimark> moin
2008-01-29T09:40:04  <cb22> only 4 parsers to go:)
2008-01-29T09:40:45  <dreimark> :)
2008-01-29T09:41:29  <dreimark> cb22: how did you check the licenses ?
2008-01-29T09:41:47  <dreimark> e.g. wikispaces has no license info
2008-01-29T09:42:17  <cb22> for the ones that didnt have any specific info, i left them GPL
2008-01-29T09:42:46  <dreimark> that is bad. it may be right but they have to tell it
2008-01-29T09:42:49  <cb22> (if the author of the licence sees it, he/she can change it appropriatly)
2008-01-29T09:42:54  <dreimark> no
2008-01-29T09:43:14  <cb22> dreimark: what should i set it for the ones that give no info then?
2008-01-29T09:43:38  <cb22> 'This parser's licensing conditions are unknown'
2008-01-29T09:44:02  <dreimark> :)
2008-01-29T09:44:08  <xorAxAx> well, any other license than gpl is invalid
2008-01-29T09:44:17  <xorAxAx> cb22: are there any non-gpl parsers?
2008-01-29T09:44:20  <dreimark> it can be a compatible one
2008-01-29T09:44:46  <xorAxAx> dreimark: no, thats not possible because they link with the gpl package moin
2008-01-29T09:45:43  <cb22> xorAxAx: none that i've seen
2008-01-29T09:45:53  <cb22> by that i mean, sure, one or two public domain ones
2008-01-29T09:46:16  <xorAxAx> which is even worse than bsd :)
2008-01-29T09:46:22  <xorAxAx> for this purpose
2008-01-29T09:46:27  <cb22> nothing incompatible with the GPL (which is required, since moin is under the gpl, the plugins become part of moin, and therefor assume GPL?)
2008-01-29T09:47:01  <starshine> the public in the us doesn't defend its domain :/  the only Public Domain stuff whose status is worth it are the paid-by-our-tax-dollar kinds like nasa photos
2008-01-29T09:51:21  <xorAxAx> cb22: ?
2008-01-29T09:57:45  <starshine> nn
2008-01-29T09:58:05  <dreimark> gn starshine_away
2008-01-29T09:58:14  <cb22> xorAxAx: like you said, the license needs to be compatabile with the GPL because it effectivly becomes the GPL when used by moin
2008-01-29T10:19:29  <xorAxAx> cb22: no
2008-01-29T10:19:46  <xorAxAx> cb22: the code must be licensed under gpl, if it is not, it is violating the copyright of the moin contributors
2008-01-29T11:20:49  <cb22> two to go :)
2008-01-29T11:39:37  <cb22> hmm, has anyone here used the AgPics parser?
2008-01-29T11:45:40  <cb22> done :)
2008-01-29T11:46:23  <xorAxAx> cool
2008-01-29T11:52:49  <cb22> :( i just got locked out
2008-01-29T11:55:04  <xorAxAx> from moinmoin?
2008-01-29T11:55:07  <xorAxAx> then bug ThomasWaldmann :)
2008-01-29T11:59:37  * cb22 bugs ThomasWaldmann 
2008-01-29T11:59:45  <cb22> or i'll just wait it out
2008-01-29T12:04:35  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-01-29T12:04:38  <cb22> there we go, all sorted
2008-01-29T12:04:41  <cb22> moin ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-29T12:04:48  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: did you ignore its warnings?
2008-01-29T12:04:49  <TheSheep> moin
2008-01-29T12:05:10  * cb22 was middle clicking in FF too fast for his own good
2008-01-29T12:05:46  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: nope, it was a surge error
2008-01-29T12:06:25  <ThomasWaldmann> moin surge protection only locks you out if you don't react to its warnings
2008-01-29T12:07:31  <cb22> hmm, i probabably didnt see it, i was opening pages quite quickly (to correct a dumb spelling error)
2008-01-29T12:08:57  <cb22> btw, sorry about the lateness
2008-01-29T12:09:39  <ThomasWaldmann> if it was just warning you, you just need to let it cool down a minute or two
2008-01-29T12:10:03  <ThomasWaldmann> if it tells you that you are locked out, it might be rather an hour or more
2008-01-29T12:10:13  <cb22> hehe, yeah, thats what i did
2008-01-29T12:10:28  <cb22> well, it was only 5 minutes, no biggie
2008-01-29T12:10:48  <ThomasWaldmann> then it was no lock out, just warning
2008-01-29T12:14:24  * cb22 updates the tracker
2008-01-29T12:52:02  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: have you checked the attachments that are still attached to the ParserMarket page?
2008-01-29T12:57:04  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: yes, they are all old versions of the parsers
2008-01-29T12:57:18  <cb22> should i add them to their relative page?
2008-01-29T13:00:31  <ThomasWaldmann> if it is all "old" but not "ancient", i can move it to the target in the fs
2008-01-29T13:01:01  <ThomasWaldmann> what's that .WIP stuff
2008-01-29T13:02:48  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: heh, you should have said that 5 minutes ago =) I've already moved them
2008-01-29T13:03:22  <cb22> the .WIPs are pages that had to be moved out the way, like /Gallery2 already existed, so i moved it to Gallery2.WIP while i created the new Gallery2
2008-01-29T13:03:56  <cb22> should i delete them?
2008-01-29T13:08:19  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/UmlSequence.WIP looks like all images there are gone
2008-01-29T13:08:43  <cb22> yes, because i moved them to their new location (ParserMarket/UmlSequence/Examples)
2008-01-29T13:09:27  <cb22> its like that for all of them
2008-01-29T13:10:18  <ThomasWaldmann> ah. so the WIP is not needed any more because all content of it is on some other page?
2008-01-29T13:10:23  <cb22> yep
2008-01-29T13:10:31  <ThomasWaldmann> then please delete it
2008-01-29T13:12:20  <cb22> ok, all deleted
2008-01-29T13:17:34  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/edit/MoinMoinBugs/UploadLinkForTransclusionMissing
2008-01-29T13:18:37  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: you moved all attached files of ParserMarket to right place?
2008-01-29T13:19:20  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: surgeprotection will catch you if you enter this url
2008-01-29T13:23:06  <ThomasWaldmann> no, but you are right that there is no upload link
2008-01-29T13:23:45  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/UploadLinkForTransclusionMissing?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=example.pdf
2008-01-29T13:24:21  <dreimark> or delete the cache
2008-01-29T13:30:21  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: yep
2008-01-29T16:05:27  <JordanCronin> Thanks for that tip earlier, dreimark
2008-01-29T16:07:45  <JordanCronin> ThomasWaldmann, There are some macro pages that are under the top level (RatingSystemForMoin, AttentionBoxesForMoin) are these special pages, or can I move them under MacroMarket?
2008-01-29T16:08:38  <JordanCronin> (ThemesMacro too)
2008-01-29T16:09:07  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe first process the stuff on MacroMarket, the other stuff can be done when you are finished with that
2008-01-29T16:09:26  <JordanCronin> Ok
2008-01-29T16:10:15  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: maybe it isn't doing badly for me because I dont have the adobe reader plugin installed any more (it sucked)
2008-01-29T16:11:15  <JordanCronin> If I've converted a macro page (macro/WhoLastModified.py) into an attachment, an put it under MacroMarket/WhoLastModified, can I then delete the page named "WhoLastModified.py" ?
2008-01-29T16:11:37  <JordanCronin> I don't see a reason to keep it, I just wanted to make sure that wouldn't mess anything up
2008-01-29T16:12:40  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, if you are sure you have stuff at the right place (subpage), delete it at the wrong place
2008-01-29T16:12:51  <JordanCronin> Great
2008-01-29T16:13:32  <ThomasWaldmann> (of course that might break some links, but as long as one knows where to look for it, this is a minor problem)
2008-01-29T16:14:03  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: is a good explaination, a mpg file does not do a similiar refresh rate
2008-01-29T16:16:53  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, I would like to do 1.6.1 asap, just to get the migration and mac os x fixes out.
2008-01-29T16:17:26  <ThomasWaldmann> the main thing keeping me back still is that damn ever-broken <p> generation of the parser
2008-01-29T16:18:22  <dreimark> johill: did you get my mail?
2008-01-29T16:20:25  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: should we add the gui editor fix for MS issue 48 ?
2008-01-29T16:22:02  <dreimark> and the backport of superuser fix install I did for 1.7 ?
2008-01-29T16:41:15  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, #48 should be added to 1.6 and 1.7
2008-01-29T16:41:43  <bolekk> moin
2008-01-29T16:46:05  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: which 1.7 changeset is it?
2008-01-29T16:46:19  <ThomasWaldmann> moin bolekk
2008-01-29T16:49:33  <xorAxAx> cb22: heh, i think it will be american sizes :)
2008-01-29T16:50:18  <cb22> xorAxAx: hehe, that was quick
2008-01-29T16:58:35  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: in 1.7 tip changeset 3023 4ec124c124c9
2008-01-29T17:01:59  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ah, that one, yes it is simple enough for 1.6
2008-01-29T17:02:17  <ThomasWaldmann> (i thought you were talking about the su strangenesses)
2008-01-29T17:03:18  <dreimark> no that one was send to johill to do a review.
2008-01-29T17:07:41  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
2008-01-29T17:19:24  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 3024:a438cc63c626 1.7/MoinMoin/converter/text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: converter.text_html_text_moin_wiki: bug fix for GuiEditorExcelPasteExpatErrorUnboundPrefix (thanks to Federico Lorenzi)
2008-01-29T17:21:04  * dreimark needs to fetch again 1.6
2008-01-29T17:40:08  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: if you are still here, what do you mean by not rendering correctly?
2008-01-29T17:43:12  <cb22> btw, it looks like http://moinmo.in/FedericoLorenzi?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=screenschot.png for me
2008-01-29T17:44:03  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2528:f35fd499c560 1.6/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: action.AttachFile: bugfix showing unzip for packages, install for superuser (backport from 1.7)
2008-01-29T17:44:06  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2529:cf004e47fbda 1.6/MoinMoin/converter/text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: converter.text_html_text_moin_wiki: bug fix for GuiEditorExcelPasteExpatErrorUnboundPrefix (thanks to Federico Lorenzi) (backport from 1.7)
2008-01-29T17:49:18  <dreimark> cb22: ?TableOfContents
2008-01-29T17:51:16  <dreimark> mistake by me older revision
2008-01-29T17:51:30  <JordanCronin> Question: There seems to be two copies of the UserList2.py macro in macro/UserList2.py, and MacroMarket/UserList2 (attached) with one of them containing a slight difference. I am wondering if I can delete one of them.
2008-01-29T17:51:57  <JordanCronin> one of them has " #format python"
2008-01-29T17:51:59  <JordanCronin> at the top
2008-01-29T17:52:13  <JordanCronin> other than that, they appear the same from a quick glance
2008-01-29T17:52:19  <TheSheep> JordanCronin: that's just a comment to make Moin pretty-print it nicely
2008-01-29T17:52:32  <TheSheep> JordanCronin: use 'diff' to really say if they are the same
2008-01-29T17:53:03  <JordanCronin> Do I have to download them to do that, or is there a way to do it from the website? (I'm running Linux)
2008-01-29T17:53:30  <dreimark> downloading and diff -u is the easy
2008-01-29T17:53:33  <TheSheep> you have to download them, then type 'diff file1 file2' in the terminal
2008-01-29T17:53:36  <dreimark> solution
2008-01-29T17:53:43  <JordanCronin> thanks :)
2008-01-29T17:53:45  <dreimark> and do use -u
2008-01-29T17:54:16  * cb22 beats TheSheep with a -ugly stick :)
2008-01-29T17:54:56  * TheSheep bites cb22's head off
2008-01-29T17:55:16  * TheSheep <-- ovis carnivora
2008-01-29T17:55:22  * cb22 cowers in the corner, headless
2008-01-29T17:56:47  <TheSheep> ptfu, not enough salt
2008-01-29T17:59:18  * dreimark checks forward ports
2008-01-29T18:10:30  <JordanCronin> Does MoinMoin have a pastebin?
2008-01-29T18:10:50  <xorAxAx> no, we recommend http://paste.pocoo.org
2008-01-29T18:10:56  <xorAxAx> it has vim and emacs bindings
2008-01-29T18:11:12  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: the table misses some borders at the upper part. but I looked at it again, it looked ok now. strange...
2008-01-29T18:11:15  <xorAxAx> that allow you to paste something with a keypress
2008-01-29T18:12:14  <ThomasWaldmann> any wishes left or can I close the ParserMarket task?
2008-01-29T18:12:38  <JordanCronin> I tried the diff, but I'm not sure I understand what it is saying... They look the same but diff thinks they are different. Could someone look at the output? http://paste.pocoo.org/show/24497/
2008-01-29T18:14:05  <ThomasWaldmann> JordanCronin: beware from cr/lf vs. lf
2008-01-29T18:14:19  <ThomasWaldmann> diff has some switches for such stuff
2008-01-29T18:14:58  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, I take this as everyone's happy with it. Closing.
2008-01-29T18:16:41  <ThomasWaldmann> bolekk: how are you getting along? See also last question on the tracker. :)
2008-01-29T18:26:06  <dreimark> JordanCronin: -u I told already
2008-01-29T18:26:29  <JordanCronin> dreimark, I used -u
2008-01-29T18:26:45  <JordanCronin> the --strip-trailing-cr seemed to work
2008-01-29T18:27:13  <dreimark> indeed
2008-01-29T18:27:38  <JordanCronin> What was the -u option supposed to do?
2008-01-29T18:28:09  <cb22> JordanCronin: try without ;)
2008-01-29T18:28:16  <JordanCronin> lol :)
2008-01-29T18:28:45  <cb22> from the man page: -u, --do-not-format-my-harddrive: this option stops diff from formatting your harddrive and reaching world domination
2008-01-29T18:28:45  <JordanCronin> according to my man page Output NUM (default 3) lines of unified context.
2008-01-29T18:28:59  <JordanCronin> :)
2008-01-29T18:29:15  <cb22> basically it just produces prettier, more readable diffs
2008-01-29T18:29:24  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: :)
2008-01-29T18:30:10  <JordanCronin> I was just wondering why dreimark said "-u I told already"
2008-01-29T18:30:29  <cb22> he probably thought that you got some weird cryptic output
2008-01-29T18:31:31  <JordanCronin> makes sense
2008-01-29T18:34:55  <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: slowly :/ firebug isn't working on my firefox so I'm debugging manually.. I only have "selection" and "macro" working on firefox
2008-01-29T18:35:32  <cb22> bolekk: ouch :( <3 firebug
2008-01-29T18:36:36  <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: I was away for 3 last days, now I'll try to catch up but I'm not sure if I'll manage to finish everything inclufing testing on IE before ghop ends...
2008-01-29T18:38:34  <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: I'll do my best to at least get rid of any javascript errors on firefox
2008-01-29T18:39:49  <johill> dreimark: yes, but haven't caught up with mail yet
2008-01-29T18:40:10  <xorAxAx> bolekk: are you on linux?
2008-01-29T18:41:23  <bolekk> xorAxAx: yes
2008-01-29T18:41:50  <xorAxAx> bolekk: did you try installing firefox when its running with another user profile?
2008-01-29T18:41:58  <xorAxAx> s/firefox/firebug/
2008-01-29T18:42:26  <bolekk> xorAxAx: nope
2008-01-29T18:42:51  <xorAxAx> maybe it works if you start with a clean profile :)
2008-01-29T18:44:26  <bolekk> xorAxAx: maybe I'll try to reinstall firefox or use binary package
2008-01-29T18:55:11  <JordanCronin> ThomasWaldmann: On the MacroMarket page, there is a link to macro/IncVar and then there is an attachment named IncVar.py on the MacroMarket page that is not linked to from the listing on MacroMarket, what should I do with the attachment on MacroMarket?
2008-01-29T18:55:57  * JordanCronin is getting a bite to eat
2008-01-29T19:01:11  <JordanCronin> I moved the macro/IncVar page to MacroMarket/IncVar as an attachment
2008-01-29T19:10:28  <johill> dreimark: that patch is for 1.6 right?
2008-01-29T19:10:37  <johill> dreimark: I had been wondering since in 1.7 I split up all that
2008-01-29T19:14:57  <johill> dreimark: why do we not use theuser = self.request.user in 1.6?
2008-01-29T19:27:21  <dreimark> johill: it was for 1.6 / good point that will make it shorter
2008-01-29T19:27:26  <dreimark> I give it a try
2008-01-29T19:27:34  <johill> in 1.7 we just do that
2008-01-29T19:27:39  <johill> which seems sensible
2008-01-29T19:35:17  <dreimark> voila, looks good
2008-01-29T19:35:41  <johill> ok, that makes sense to me too
2008-01-29T19:37:05  <dreimark> seems i triggered with my tests another bug
2008-01-29T19:37:26  <dreimark> KeyError 'ticket'
2008-01-29T19:37:30  <dreimark> in 208 wikiutil.checkTicket(self.request, self.request.form['ticket'][0]) and self.request.session):
2008-01-29T19:37:43  <dreimark> userform.py
2008-01-29T19:38:06  <johill> mh
2008-01-29T19:38:20  <johill> tbh, I don't understand this ticket stuff fully
2008-01-29T19:38:34  <johill> sounds like no ticket was added to the form
2008-01-29T19:38:56  <dreimark> after several successful attempts
2008-01-29T19:39:17  <johill> maybe you reloaded?
2008-01-29T19:39:24  <johill> hmm
2008-01-29T19:39:56  <dreimark> it was now the second time I have seen it. I do save this traceback now
2008-01-29T19:40:02  <johill> the original doesn't have a ticket check there
2008-01-29T19:40:04  <johill> is that part of your patch?
2008-01-29T19:40:19  <johill> (it was in the patch you sent me)
2008-01-29T19:43:49  <dreimark> hm, it has it at above at if form.has_key('select_user'): too
2008-01-29T19:44:35  <johill> yeah that's for the su form
2008-01-29T19:45:30  <dreimark> but if we do use save of that form we should always have this ticket
2008-01-29T19:45:54  <johill> well the su form is a different form
2008-01-29T19:46:00  <johill> but if it worked once it ought to work twice too
2008-01-29T19:46:59  <dreimark> it works ten times and then it got broken
2008-01-29T19:47:06  <dreimark> ~10
2008-01-29T19:47:12  <johill> very odd
2008-01-29T19:47:19  <johill> and then it keeps failing?
2008-01-29T20:10:24  <dreimark> back button and save does give the same error
2008-01-29T20:11:13  <dreimark> selectinf Preferences recovers it
2008-01-29T20:11:27  <dreimark> s/selectinf/selecting/
2008-01-29T20:19:13  <dreimark> bbl ~2h
2008-01-29T20:52:12  <JordanCronin> ThomasWaldmann: On the Vote macros, should I create two seperate subpages? The vote macro for the older release is called "Vote2_moin12.py" and the newer one is Vote_1.3.py. If seperate subpages, what should I name each?
2008-01-29T21:03:03  <ThomasWaldmann> if it is same macro from same author, just different moin versions, use same page
2008-01-29T21:04:41  <JordanCronin> Well, it is different authors updating other authors' code
2008-01-29T21:05:38  <JordanCronin> And if I separate them on different pages, what should I name them, because I think If I name them according to the name on the attachment, it might cause confusion
2008-01-29T21:06:36  <JordanCronin> Also, is it acceptable to have spaces in the page names?
2008-01-29T21:07:14  <JordanCronin> (For the 'MetaData browser' macro)
2008-01-29T22:12:49  <xorAxAx> cb22: who is cat?
2008-01-29T22:13:05  <xorAxAx> JordanCronin: is cat a male or female first name?
2008-01-29T22:13:15  <xorAxAx> JordanCronin: yes, spaces are fine
2008-01-29T22:13:36  <JordanCronin> cat?
2008-01-29T22:13:59  <xorAxAx> yes, cat, as seen on the ghop-discuss list
2008-01-29T22:14:28  <JordanCronin> sounds female... I'm not sure I've seen them though
2008-01-29T22:15:25  <xorAxAx> hmm, typically american - its facebook profile doesnt give away the gender :)
2008-01-29T22:15:34  <xorAxAx> s/facebook/linkedin/
2008-01-29T22:16:21  <JordanCronin> Are you asking about "Cat Allman" ?
2008-01-29T22:16:26  <xorAxAx> yes
2008-01-29T22:18:37  <JordanCronin> Why?
2008-01-29T22:19:56  <xorAxAx> because i am curious :)
2008-01-29T22:27:05  <xorAxAx> also i havent seen that person speaking for google on the mailinglists
2008-01-29T22:27:29  <xorAxAx> and leslie has been pushing for some kind of "introduce yourself first" policy, thats why i was wondering who it is
2008-01-29T22:40:36  <JordanCronin> Got the answer for you
2008-01-29T22:41:06  <JordanCronin> =)
2008-01-29T22:41:44  <JordanCronin> "During lunch, I ran into Cat Allman, who I’ve known for years through USENIX. She’s recently joined Google and is working with Leslie Hawthorn. I call them the Open Source Angels." - http://dan.langille.org/2007/08/01/oscon-2007-the-details-the-people/
2008-01-29T22:42:48  <JordanCronin> xorAxAx: ping
2008-01-29T22:44:21  * JordanCronin goes back to what he was doing
2008-01-29T22:45:46  <xorAxAx> angels sounds nice :)
2008-01-29T22:45:54  <xorAxAx> JordanCronin: thank you for stalking :)
2008-01-29T22:46:51  <JordanCronin> lol @ 'stalking'. Yes, angels sounds nice. :)
2008-01-29T22:48:55  <xorAxAx> moin karol
2008-01-29T23:02:58  <grzywacz> moin
2008-01-29T23:03:09  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, what's up? :)
2008-01-29T23:03:38  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: preparing for a swedish exam
2008-01-29T23:03:45  <xorAxAx> not currently, but in the next days :)
2008-01-29T23:04:33  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, coolness :)
2008-01-29T23:04:45  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, I'll probably start learning Norwegian late Summer
2008-01-29T23:05:20  <xorAxAx> why is that?
2008-01-29T23:05:24  <xorAxAx> bokmal?
2008-01-29T23:09:06  <grzywacz> Yes, bokmal.
2008-01-29T23:09:20  <grzywacz> Well, the main reason is that my gf is considering to do her specialisation there.
2008-01-29T23:09:37  <grzywacz> So I might end up going there at least from time to time, or maybe even for longer.
2008-01-29T23:09:58  <grzywacz> In 2-3 years, that is.
2008-01-29T23:11:26  <xorAxAx> wow, its completly different from poland for several reasons
2008-01-29T23:11:34  <xorAxAx> e.g. the beer is much more expensive
2008-01-29T23:12:14  <grzywacz> I hate beer.
2008-01-29T23:12:19  <grzywacz> And Norwegian beer is awful.
2008-01-29T23:12:21  <grzywacz> So whatever. :D
2008-01-29T23:12:49  <xorAxAx> ah, i remember
2008-01-29T23:13:23  <xorAxAx> well, norwegians are supposed to be able to talk to swedes. so we should have a try at sometime
2008-01-29T23:13:25  <grzywacz> Anyway, I don't know what's going to happen in 3 years, but knowing more never hurts.
2008-01-29T23:13:38  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, I think that try may be a little bit skewed :P
2008-01-29T23:14:11  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: i think chatting is enough :)
2008-01-29T23:14:30  <grzywacz> ?
2008-01-29T23:15:35  <xorAxAx> i mean, in irc
2008-01-29T23:16:37  <grzywacz> Ok, sure, but not any time soon. ;)
2008-01-29T23:17:15  <grzywacz> You can try talking with my Magda if you want to, as she should be able to do it. ;)
2008-01-29T23:18:02  <xorAxAx> hehe
2008-01-29T23:21:06  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: maybe she should also learn swedish because there are more swedish speakers than bokmal ones i think :)
2008-01-29T23:23:43  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, no idea about that, frankly.
2008-01-29T23:23:55  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, and I'm absolutely sure that she can't do that with her current schedule
2008-01-29T23:23:56  <grzywacz> ;)
2008-01-29T23:24:17  <xorAxAx> heh