MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-05-24

   1 2010-05-24T00:08:21  <dreimark> diofeher: can your irc client stay online?
   2 2010-05-24T00:09:21  <diofeher> dreimark: all day?
   3 2010-05-24T00:09:30  <dreimark> yes
   4 2010-05-24T00:09:51  <diofeher> no.. but my friends that entered in gsoc too will install a psybnc to me
   5 2010-05-24T00:09:52  <dreimark> you can use irssi with screen
   6 2010-05-24T00:10:32  <diofeher> mm, i use chatzilla here
   7 2010-05-24T00:10:58  <dreimark> if you have access to a system which is always online you could run irssi in screen
   8 2010-05-24T00:11:05  <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: if that works out with psybnc, that's fine
   9 2010-05-24T00:11:45  <ThomasWaldmann> if you have a flat rate, you should be connected as permanently as possible
  10 2010-05-24T00:12:41  <dreimark> the benifit of that is that everyone can leave messages and noone has to wait until all are online
  11 2010-05-24T00:13:03  <diofeher> ok! i will install psybnc as soon as possible
  12 2010-05-24T00:13:12  <diofeher> until wednesday i think
  13 2010-05-24T00:19:08  <ThomasWaldmann> what dreimark meant is running irsii in screen via ssh on a permanently connected system
  14 2010-05-24T00:21:28  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8225:9406c50a2a53 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/serialization.py: storage serialization: use py3-like element names: str and bytes
  15 2010-05-24T00:21:31  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8226:8d18b007dbb0 2.0-dev/ (MoinMoin/_tests/testitems.xml wiki/syspages.xml): system pages / test pages: update xml files
  16 2010-05-24T00:25:20  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8227:19c91ee08ff2 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/_tests/test_serialization.py: storage serialization: adapt tests to py3-like element names
  17 2010-05-24T00:57:10  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8228:d70bfb384a12 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: more metadata type fixes
  18 2010-05-24T00:58:47  <valeuf> xorAxAx: just that order of the tag does not always matter
  19 2010-05-24T00:59:35  <valeuf> xorAxAx: it is pretty obscure for me at this time, but I did not check that correctly
  20 2010-05-24T00:59:51  <valeuf> xorAxAx: I will do it more seriously tomorrow
  21 2010-05-24T01:00:16  <xorAxAx> valeuf: i dont understand the order thing
  22 2010-05-24T01:04:26  <valeuf> <em><strong>My Bold and Italic text</strong></em> is equivalent to <strong><em>My Bold and Italic Text</strong></em>
  23 2010-05-24T01:04:48  <valeuf> a good test should be ok for the two situation because it does not matter
  24 2010-05-24T01:05:06  <valeuf> but at this time I do not see how to do it
  25 2010-05-24T01:05:23  <valeuf> otherwise, I think it should be ok, I just need to code it
  26 2010-05-24T01:10:43  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8229:9a2038815645 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/support/kvstore.py: MoinMoin.support.kvstore - a flexible key/value store implemented with sqlalchemy
  27 2010-05-24T01:14:09  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8230:48ecb33067cd 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/indexing.py: storage: add indexing mixin classes
  28 2010-05-24T01:14:35  <diofeher> valeuf: maybe you can use selenium...
  29 2010-05-24T01:15:21  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8231:810932eeffcd 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/ (__init__.py fs2.py): use indexing mixins for fs2 backend (others might be slightly broken)
  30 2010-05-24T01:15:28  <diofeher> valeuf: i think it will be useful for you, http://seleniumhq.org/docs/
  31 2010-05-24T01:17:16  <valeuf> diofeher: it can be a solution, but I am sure it is possible to do it with Xpath
  32 2010-05-24T01:18:56  <diofeher> valeuf: you can go through a Html document with xpath? or have to convert to xml?
  33 2010-05-24T01:19:26  <xorAxAx> valeuf: well, i think it is indeed not possible. but if your code maintains the order, it should be fine
  34 2010-05-24T01:23:04  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, metadata indexing stuff basically works now
  35 2010-05-24T01:23:52  <ThomasWaldmann> (for fs2 backend, please review)
  36 2010-05-24T01:24:54  <ThomasWaldmann> some pieces are missing still, e.g. item uuid/name, using the index, ...
  37 2010-05-24T01:37:02  <valeuf> diofeher: well, we output Xhtml, so yes normally
  38 2010-05-24T01:37:26  <valeuf> xorAxAx: yep, anyway I thought that I won't care about the order at this time
  39 2010-05-24T01:39:45  <diofeher> ah, nice :]
  40 2010-05-24T02:37:18  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8232:44b2e558e4e3 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 2 dirs): add in-memory indexing to MemoryBackend, fix some tests
  41 2010-05-24T02:51:00  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8233:8e7836f5fd13 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/fs.py: fs backend: add indexing mixins
  42 2010-05-24T03:06:03  <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: you are a night bird
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  47 2010-05-24T07:09:07  <diofeher> i made some changes in http://www.moinmo.in/Jinja 2010
  48 2010-05-24T07:09:20  <diofeher> if anyone can answer later, it will be very helpful :)
  49 2010-05-24T07:15:15  <diofeher> going to sleep... be back in 6 hours
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  51 2010-05-24T09:18:54  <eSyr> moin
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  54 2010-05-24T09:55:17  <dreimark> moin
  55 2010-05-24T09:55:22  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/XMLRPC needs no editor backup
  56 2010-05-24T09:55:35  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/XMLRPC%20needs%20no%20editor%20backup
  57 2010-05-24T09:56:44  <dreimark> the memory my testsystem needs decreased from 5.5GB to 1.7GB
  58 2010-05-24T09:56:51  <dreimark> s/needs//
  59 2010-05-24T10:06:06  * dreimark believes that drafts have a bigger problem
  60 2010-05-24T10:08:18  <dreimark> the moin server process needs less than 1.7GB (this was the value the monitor told)
  61 2010-05-24T10:18:51  <dreimark> (the wiki hat > 60K pages)
  62 2010-05-24T10:18:59  <dreimark> s/hat/has/
  63 2010-05-24T10:43:50  <CIA-47> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 5672:203afc609f8a 1.9/MoinMoin/xmlrpc/__init__.py:
  64 2010-05-24T10:43:50  <CIA-47> xmlrpc: Disable editor backup for putPage, renamePage and revertPage because if
  65 2010-05-24T10:43:50  <CIA-47> pages become uploaded by xmlrpc then the draft cache arena can fast increase to
  66 2010-05-24T10:43:50  <CIA-47> a big cache file size. On each of these methods called and on each server
  67 2010-05-24T10:43:50  <CIA-47> process the cache file must be loaded and processed. This can costs much memory
  68 2010-05-24T10:43:51  <CIA-47> and decreases speed of these calls.
  69 2010-05-24T10:47:53  * dreimark thinks we should limit the draft arena to a few MBytes
  70 2010-05-24T11:58:22  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  71 2010-05-24T11:58:49  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: what's the issue with drafts?
  72 2010-05-24T12:02:27  <ThomasWaldmann> (draft is expected to hold one copy of an edited page, why is it so big for you?)
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  74 2010-05-24T12:07:30  <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: (07:09) <  diofeher> i made some changes in http://www.moinmo.in/Jinja 2010
  75 2010-05-24T12:07:42  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you can answer that best
  76 2010-05-24T12:20:13  <aa_> ThomasWaldmann: looking now
  77 2010-05-24T12:27:07  <ThomasWaldmann> BTW, SOC coding phase has officially begun today.
  78 2010-05-24T12:27:46  <xorAxAx> yes, where are the commits? :)
  79 2010-05-24T12:27:52  <TheSheep> ha
  80 2010-05-24T12:27:57  <TheSheep> where are the students?
  81 2010-05-24T12:28:01  <DmitryAndreev> here
  82 2010-05-24T12:28:05  <DmitryAndreev> .)
  83 2010-05-24T12:28:07  <TheSheep> \o/
  84 2010-05-24T12:29:38  <ThomasWaldmann> still some hours left for first code commit or wiki calendar log page :)
  85 2010-05-24T12:32:40  <DmitryAndreev> ow, now i'm think how to organize wiki_out convertor. html_out looks to heavy.
  86 2010-05-24T12:34:08  <DmitryAndreev> also esyr want's from me some review of parsing systems with code exempls
  87 2010-05-24T12:35:05  <waldi> DmitryAndreev: you need to visit every element within a tree. there are two approches: DFS and BFS. only the first is really usable in this case and this is what the html converter does
  88 2010-05-24T12:36:20  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, did anyone work on a image converter?
  89 2010-05-24T12:40:51  <DmitryAndreev> waldi, still, so many functions in html_out.) i will start without looking on attributes. attributes controller will be later.
  90 2010-05-24T12:41:55  <DmitryAndreev> sorry, is my english understandable?)
  91 2010-05-24T12:42:11  <TheSheep> it's very good
  92 2010-05-24T12:42:14  <TheSheep> keep it up
  93 2010-05-24T12:48:39  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, for daily english training I use slashdot.org, planet.python.org, bbc news and lots of stuff found by google. video.google.com "google techtalks" is nice for spoken english (mostly).
  94 2010-05-24T12:49:49  <ThomasWaldmann> ah, and irc :D
  95 2010-05-24T13:03:27  <TheSheep> although irc gives you a strong, recognizable accent ;)
  96 2010-05-24T13:04:32  <zenhase> you got to admit, that there are several different dialects roaming the webs ;)
  97 2010-05-24T13:04:52  <zenhase> i mean there is nerdspeak and lolspeak for example ;)
  98 2010-05-24T13:05:42  <zenhase> and youtube-comment-speak, which must be some equivalent of redneck american slang in the virtual world
  99 2010-05-24T13:08:15  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: because xmlrpc creates or updates many pages
 100 2010-05-24T13:08:57  <dreimark> and if i run many processes i get it all the time processed
 101 2010-05-24T13:09:20  <dreimark> this costs much memory
 102 2010-05-24T13:37:00  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: so how does this mage gigabytes of RAMß
 103 2010-05-24T13:37:02  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
 104 2010-05-24T13:37:10  <ThomasWaldmann> *make
 105 2010-05-24T13:37:25  <ThomasWaldmann> (or disk storage?)
 106 2010-05-24T13:37:38  <ThomasWaldmann> please clarify
 107 2010-05-24T13:38:05  <dreimark> it becomes open and read into RAM on any apache process
 108 2010-05-24T13:39:26  <dreimark> and on write it becomes duplicated
 109 2010-05-24T13:40:40  <dreimark> the disk storage is explainable because the user has modified 65K pages
 110 2010-05-24T13:41:48  <dreimark> but I don't know exactly currently why all my processes together with that 140MB file gives in total > 5GB   for the apache processes
 111 2010-05-24T13:45:39  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, so it is 1 user 65K pages edited * ~2KB per page draft = 140MB user draft cache
 112 2010-05-24T13:46:33  <ThomasWaldmann> please check where it loads the draft cache and whether it can be garbage collected
 113 2010-05-24T13:47:18  <dreimark> yes, we need that for all other caches too
 114 2010-05-24T13:56:43  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8234:0bc854eeef9a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/fs.py: fs backend: use r/w file open mode for files we keep open
 115 2010-05-24T13:56:56  <ThomasWaldmann> there is some chance that fs works now
 116 2010-05-24T14:00:25  <aa_> ThomasWaldmann: its an empty wiki page about jinja, should I write some stuff in there?
 117 2010-05-24T14:03:28  <ThomasWaldmann> aa_: i meant the questions aboubt wtforms, see info action / recent changes
 118 2010-05-24T14:14:24  * ThomasWaldmann tries to fix "ProgrammingError: (ProgrammingError) SQLite objects created in a thread can only be used in that same thread." now
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 121 2010-05-24T15:24:41  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, implicit execution is easiest for fixing
 122 2010-05-24T15:26:35  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I have it fixed in hatta
 123 2010-05-24T15:28:07  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: http://hg.hatta-wiki.org/hatta-dev/file/09bf3c67d528/hatta.py#l1352
 124 2010-05-24T15:30:11  <ThomasWaldmann> sqla does connection pooling anyway
 125 2010-05-24T15:39:23  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8235:ea821ee0349c 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (storage/backends/indexing.py support/kvstore.py):
 126 2010-05-24T15:39:23  <CIA-47> indexing storage backend mixin, kvstore: use implicit execution (see below)
 127 2010-05-24T15:39:23  <CIA-47> sqlalchemy's implicit execution implicitly creates a connection to execute
 128 2010-05-24T15:39:23  <CIA-47> the sql. as sqlalchemy uses a pool of connections for this (and does not
 129 2010-05-24T15:39:23  <CIA-47> really create a new database connection each time), this seems to be an easy
 130 2010-05-24T15:39:24  <CIA-47> way to avoid threading issues (a connection may only be used by 1 thread)
 131 2010-05-24T15:39:25  <CIA-47> and also makes shorter code.
 132 2010-05-24T15:40:41  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, somehow preload_xml currently always preloads the backend storage
 133 2010-05-24T15:44:09  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, no, it is likely because MemoryBackend also maintains an index now (which might be slightly superfluous in that case)
 134 2010-05-24T15:47:20  <ThomasWaldmann>     preloaded_xml = None
 135 2010-05-24T15:47:46  <ThomasWaldmann> ^^ once you have loaded your favourite backend and you rather like faster startup
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 138 2010-05-24T16:24:40  <diofeher> moin!
 139 2010-05-24T16:28:16  <ei-grad> moin
 140 2010-05-24T16:41:16  <diofeher> hey guys, do you use kdiff3 with mercurial?
 141 2010-05-24T16:41:31  <diofeher> ei-grad hi :)
 142 2010-05-24T16:45:36  <ei-grad> heh... on Defcon CTF quals only Chelyabinsk had 2 teams from one city, of Russian teams... 24 and 52 ranks... (my team is 52)... 4th of teams from Russia...
 143 2010-05-24T16:46:32  <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: i personally prefer conflict markers in src
 144 2010-05-24T16:53:29  <diofeher> nice ThomasWaldmann..
 145 2010-05-24T16:53:53  <dreimark> ei-grad: congrats - how is it going with the ldap test ?
 146 2010-05-24T16:54:19  <dreimark> diofeher: me does
 147 2010-05-24T16:54:30  <diofeher> well, i thinking about forms... ali ashfar answered me that he thinks the most complete project found by him is flatland
 148 2010-05-24T16:54:34  <diofeher> congratz ei-grad :D
 149 2010-05-24T16:55:19  <eSyr> ei-grad: huh, you're participating in CTF?
 150 2010-05-24T16:55:42  <ei-grad> dreimark: i will start coding today
 151 2010-05-24T16:55:50  <ei-grad> eSyr: yes)
 152 2010-05-24T16:58:54  <eSyr> ei-grad: cool.
 153 2010-05-24T17:04:25  <ei-grad> Team Smoked Chicken is from my university (originally, but they participate as from South Ural State University now)... They were originators of CTF in Russia, together with a team HackerDom.
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 156 2010-05-24T17:20:23  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8236:72f6db070642 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/ (fs.py fs2.py hg.py indexing.py memory.py sqla.py):
 157 2010-05-24T17:20:23  <CIA-47> move rev.timestamp assignment from storage backends to indexing mixin
 158 2010-05-24T17:20:23  <CIA-47> To index metadata, we need a valid timestamp. So if it is still None when
 159 2010-05-24T17:20:23  <CIA-47> reaching the indexer, it is initialized to current time. Similar code that
 160 2010-05-24T17:20:23  <CIA-47> was present in all backends was removed from there.
 161 2010-05-24T17:20:24  <CIA-47> Note: breaks backends without indexing mixin if rev.timestamp is None.
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 163 2010-05-24T17:41:39  <diofeher> going to college, bye!
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 165 2010-05-24T18:14:27  <TheSheep> missed again
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 168 2010-05-24T18:52:35  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8237:e60ffe82eb8a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/fs2.py: fs2 backend: make Item and Revision creation a bit less patchy
 169 2010-05-24T18:55:55  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I wonder, do we keep things like trying to convert _ to spaces if the page doesn't exist?
 170 2010-05-24T18:56:09  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: in moin 2.0
 171 2010-05-24T19:04:06  <ThomasWaldmann> well, would be good if it could be done (for links from outside)
 172 2010-05-24T19:04:43  <ThomasWaldmann> for now we can have a TODO for that :)
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 174 2010-05-24T19:07:06  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8238:0b0994f20aee 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/fs2.py: Item._backend and Revision._backend are initialized by base classes
 175 2010-05-24T19:29:34  * dreimark debugs draft
 176 2010-05-24T19:38:14  * ThomasWaldmann tries a history from index
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 180 2010-05-24T20:14:36  <ThomasWaldmann> great, RouterBackend is misdesigned :|
 181 2010-05-24T21:14:39  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, history is a bit troublesome
 182 2010-05-24T21:15:07  <ThomasWaldmann> if i have a index per backend, i also have history per backend
 183 2010-05-24T21:16:55  <ThomasWaldmann> so, for global history, I'ld need to mix it together
 184 2010-05-24T21:19:34  <ThomasWaldmann> also, names are only the part of the name the backend is managing (without mountpoint)
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 186 2010-05-24T21:46:29  <dreimark> cache arena with pickle is to expensive if there are many pages as draft saved
 187 2010-05-24T21:50:57  <dreimark> once loaded it stays in memory
 188 2010-05-24T21:51:10  <valeuf> did you see test_html.py in EmeraldTRee ?
 189 2010-05-24T21:51:39  <valeuf> same style of test could be use to test the output of the html_out converter ?
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 191 2010-05-24T21:53:53  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: what does "it stays in memory" mean exactly?
 192 2010-05-24T21:54:04  <valeuf> also, there is html.py in EmeraldTree, to convert html to an EmeraldTree
 193 2010-05-24T21:54:14  <valeuf> maybe I can use it for my html_in converter ?
 194 2010-05-24T21:56:37  <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/217797/
 195 2010-05-24T21:56:48  <dreimark> pickle.loads(data)
 196 2010-05-24T21:57:09  <dreimark> and another one increases the amount of memory used
 197 2010-05-24T21:57:31  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
 198 2010-05-24T21:58:15  <dreimark> if i have that on a python shell
 199 2010-05-24T21:58:34  <dreimark> always whith every call of pickle.loads(data)
 200 2010-05-24T21:58:48  <dreimark> i get more and more memory used
 201 2010-05-24T21:59:17  <ThomasWaldmann> that's not the point
 202 2010-05-24T21:59:50  <dreimark> when will the memory cleared it uses
 203 2010-05-24T22:00:12  <ThomasWaldmann> when the object gets garbage collected
 204 2010-05-24T22:01:07  <ThomasWaldmann> (13:46) < ThomasWal> please check where it loads the draft cache and whether it can be garbage collected
 205 2010-05-24T22:02:16  <dreimark> i know readed that
 206 2010-05-24T22:05:41  <dreimark> i try to understand how i can garbage collect it
 207 2010-05-24T22:10:15  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/203afc609f8a/MoinMoin/caching.py#l280
 208 2010-05-24T22:18:44  <ThomasWaldmann> you need to look at the called of content(), what it does with the returned value
 209 2010-05-24T22:19:15  <ThomasWaldmann> and an object is garbage collected when gc runs and it is not referenced any more
 210 2010-05-24T22:27:10  <ThomasWaldmann> *caller
 211 2010-05-24T22:27:36  * dreimark reads http://www.electricmonk.nl/log/2008/07/07/python-destructor-and-garbage-collection-notes/
 212 2010-05-24T22:28:23  <ThomasWaldmann> do we have __del__?
 213 2010-05-24T22:31:14  <dreimark> we don't but some of our support libs
 214 2010-05-24T23:05:44  <valeuf> I made some experiences with Xpath, but it is not really working well
 215 2010-05-24T23:05:45  <valeuf> http://www.pastie.org/975182
 216 2010-05-24T23:14:22  <ThomasWaldmann> see your page
 217 2010-05-24T23:17:19  <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: sorry, the default theme of pastie is not that goo
 218 2010-05-24T23:17:21  <valeuf> *good
 219 2010-05-24T23:17:26  <valeuf> I put the source on the wiki
 220 2010-05-24T23:17:50  <dreimark> valeuf: usually we use paste.pocoo.org
 221 2010-05-24T23:17:58  <dreimark> what is wrong with it?
 222 2010-05-24T23:17:59  <valeuf> for the first problem, it was what I was talking about with xorAxAx
 223 2010-05-24T23:18:48  <valeuf> dreimark: no problem, I will change my vim script to use paste.pocoo.org
 224 2010-05-24T23:19:19  <xorAxAx> valeuf: doesnt load
 225 2010-05-24T23:19:34  <xorAxAx> ah, now it does
 226 2010-05-24T23:19:38  <valeuf> xorAxAx: load what ?
 227 2010-05-24T23:20:01  <valeuf> you can check directly : http://moinmo.in/ValentinJaniaut/GSoC/ProblemsAndQuestion instead of the pastie
 228 2010-05-24T23:20:31  <xorAxAx> well, that test is nearly useless
 229 2010-05-24T23:20:36  <xorAxAx> its not strict enough
 230 2010-05-24T23:21:05  <valeuf> xorAxAx: yep I was writting some comment about it
 231 2010-05-24T23:21:17  <valeuf> but I am not sure by approach is right
 232 2010-05-24T23:22:21  <valeuf> xorAxAx: to make it more strict, first of all I should care about the order of the tags,
 233 2010-05-24T23:22:52  <valeuf> xorAxAx: but I think that iterating with Xpath on the tree is just stupid
 234 2010-05-24T23:23:02  <xorAxAx> yes, your code is a bit of that :)
 235 2010-05-24T23:23:08  <xorAxAx> do you know how xpath works?
 236 2010-05-24T23:23:42  <valeuf> however div/p/sub does not
 237 2010-05-24T23:23:43  <valeuf> work
 238 2010-05-24T23:25:47  <valeuf> I just get an empty list
 239 2010-05-24T23:29:39  <valeuf> I will add some unit test in emerald tomorrow, to see if XPath stuff are working correctly
 240 2010-05-24T23:56:23  <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: i added some unit tests there recently