1 2011-02-03T00:08:41 *** m4k3r
2 2011-02-03T01:08:25 <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10358:7af29ce0212a 2.0-dev/docs/devel/development.rst: add some more highlevel docs for new developers
3 2011-02-03T01:34:04 *** grzywacz
4 2011-02-03T04:27:35 *** Trip_
5 2011-02-03T05:20:55 *** kursor
6 2011-02-03T05:42:09 *** Trip__
7 2011-02-03T05:42:09 *** Trip_
8 2011-02-03T05:52:17 *** fucheeno_
9 2011-02-03T06:02:10 *** Trip__
10 2011-02-03T06:02:20 *** Marchael
11 2011-02-03T06:02:24 *** Trip_
12 2011-02-03T06:08:16 *** Trip_
13 2011-02-03T06:08:32 *** Trip_
14 2011-02-03T06:15:51 *** kursor
15 2011-02-03T06:33:20 *** Trip__
16 2011-02-03T06:33:20 *** Trip_
17 2011-02-03T06:41:34 *** fucheeno__
18 2011-02-03T06:41:58 *** fucheeno_
19 2011-02-03T06:51:03 *** aksinha
20 2011-02-03T06:56:47 *** aksinha
21 2011-02-03T07:14:22 *** espeed
22 2011-02-03T08:00:14 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
23 2011-02-03T08:10:56 *** Marchael
24 2011-02-03T08:35:51 *** Marchael
25 2011-02-03T08:40:49 *** gwork
26 2011-02-03T08:49:25 <dreimark> moin
27 2011-02-03T08:49:40 <Marchael> I see what templates/register.html contains {{ forms.render_textcha(gen, form) }} but this is not shown on the register page
28 2011-02-03T08:52:35 <Marchael> is this not implemented yet?
29 2011-02-03T08:53:55 <dreimark> Marchael: you have to enable in wikiconfig_local
30 2011-02-03T08:54:06 <dreimark> see http://moinmo.in/HelpOnSpam about the syntax
31 2011-02-03T08:54:39 <dreimark> on default it is not, because each community have to use their own q/a
32 2011-02-03T08:54:53 <dreimark> to get the best results
33 2011-02-03T08:55:15 <Marchael> ok, thx
34 2011-02-03T08:57:10 <dreimark> Marchael: read wikiconfig.py until the end, there is explained how to do a wikiconfig_local.py
35 2011-02-03T08:57:27 <dreimark> this is just for not having commits about wikiconfig
36 2011-02-03T09:01:24 <dreimark> Marchael: if you have a clone of the moin-2 repo please pull often
37 2011-02-03T09:08:33 *** Trip__
38 2011-02-03T09:31:23 *** kasun
39 2011-02-03T09:36:59 *** kasun
40 2011-02-03T09:49:27 <TripleEntendre> I was going to inquire about the availability of hosting at WikiWikiWeb.de for my nonprofit organization, but from reading (via Google Translate) http://www.wikiwikiweb.de/FreeWiki I see that we are too small/specific to qualify. "restricted to a particular institution in a particular locality".
41 2011-02-03T09:52:40 *** kasun
42 2011-02-03T10:06:09 *** Marchael
43 2011-02-03T10:31:37 *** Marchael
44 2011-02-03T10:57:26 *** greg_f
45 2011-02-03T11:47:29 *** kasun
46 2011-02-03T11:58:36 <Marchael> How may times must be exceed before moin load new changes from wikiconfig.py?
47 2011-02-03T11:59:10 <Marchael> Or all just need, it`s restart ./moin
48 2011-02-03T11:59:12 <Marchael> ?
49 2011-02-03T12:09:38 *** espeed
50 2011-02-03T12:18:15 <TheSheep> Marchael: you need to restart it
51 2011-02-03T12:18:45 *** zynox
52 2011-02-03T12:42:23 <dreimark> TheSheep: the autoloader from moin-2 should catch the change
53 2011-02-03T12:42:47 <dreimark> Marchael: which wikiconfig do you have changed and why don't you use a wikiconfig_local.py ?
54 2011-02-03T12:44:09 <Marchael> dreimark: I change sitename in wikiconfig.py
55 2011-02-03T12:44:31 <dreimark> Marchael: if you do hg diff, this will also show up
56 2011-02-03T12:44:49 <dreimark> and you can change the sitename also in wikiconfig_local
57 2011-02-03T12:46:09 <ThomasWaldmann> re
58 2011-02-03T12:50:01 <ThomasWaldmann> Marchael: TheSheep: moin2 (when started by just ./moin) is started with a reloader, so it detects changes of at least SOME files.
59 2011-02-03T12:50:51 <ThomasWaldmann> you see it in the log output if it detected your change, it'll automatically restart the app then. if you don't see log entries, you'll have to manually do it.
60 2011-02-03T12:51:16 <ThomasWaldmann> one maybe could give all usual files somehow, if someone wants to make a patch for that, feel free. :)
61 2011-02-03T13:05:20 <Marchael> ThomasWaldmann: big thx for updating delev docs, it very usefull for me.
62 2011-02-03T13:06:25 <ThomasWaldmann> thought so (in general for SOC students or other contributors)
63 2011-02-03T13:06:34 <ThomasWaldmann> need to do much more, though...
64 2011-02-03T13:31:03 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, is everybody seeing that moin2 always requests all static files and gets 304 response? even on 2nd request for same stuff short afterwards?
65 2011-02-03T13:35:45 <ThomasWaldmann> i think that should not happen, because max-age as well expires is still in the future, so the browser should not do any request at all, right?
66 2011-02-03T13:36:10 <ThomasWaldmann> as well as expires-header*
67 2011-02-03T14:10:38 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, wtf? http 1.0?
68 2011-02-03T14:11:42 *** zynox
69 2011-02-03T14:20:29 <dreimark> seen something like that in the past for something which definitly should have 200. we had some discussions earlier
70 2011-02-03T14:27:12 <ThomasWaldmann> 200 is first request. then it is in browser cache until it expires. then browser requests it again and gets 304 if not modified.
71 2011-02-03T14:27:38 <ThomasWaldmann> what I am missing is that the browser does NOT request it until it expires.
72 2011-02-03T14:27:45 <ThomasWaldmann> works for 1.9.3 btw
73 2011-02-03T14:45:24 <ThomasWaldmann> http://pastebin.com/5JBxc0xX < http headers, also brought this up on #pocoo
74 2011-02-03T15:51:57 *** grzywacz
75 2011-02-03T15:51:57 *** grzywacz
76 2011-02-03T16:45:18 *** kasun
77 2011-02-03T17:22:19 *** gwork
78 2011-02-03T17:31:47 *** kasun
79 2011-02-03T17:33:01 <Marchael> Is MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py response for rendering MoinMoin/templates/* ?
80 2011-02-03T17:38:25 <dreimark> Marchael: yes, look for render_template calls
81 2011-02-03T17:38:48 <Marchael> ok, thx, I`m on right way
82 2011-02-03T18:07:55 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I think you don't need last-modified if you have etag
83 2011-02-03T18:25:00 *** espeed
84 2011-02-03T18:29:28 <dreimark> bbl
85 2011-02-03T18:51:51 <ThomasWaldmann> re
86 2011-02-03T18:52:24 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: the problem happens before the etag gets relevant
87 2011-02-03T18:52:55 <ThomasWaldmann> browser needs etag if it decides to do a (conditional) request
88 2011-02-03T18:53:18 <ThomasWaldmann> but it shouldn't do that before the resource cache is stale/expired
89 2011-02-03T19:03:55 *** m4k3r
90 2011-02-03T19:25:17 *** greg_f
91 2011-02-03T19:26:58 *** Marchael
92 2011-02-03T19:57:38 *** espeed
93 2011-02-03T20:00:26 *** espeed
94 2011-02-03T20:03:21 *** franklin_
95 2011-02-03T20:04:14 *** franklin
96 2011-02-03T20:09:09 *** espeed
97 2011-02-03T20:13:01 *** espeed
98 2011-02-03T20:21:14 *** espeed
99 2011-02-03T20:23:16 *** espeed
100 2011-02-03T20:38:02 *** espeed
101 2011-02-03T20:41:38 *** espeed
102 2011-02-03T20:48:09 *** espeed
103 2011-02-03T21:27:48 *** espeed
104 2011-02-03T21:34:26 *** espeed
105 2011-02-03T22:36:24 <dreimark> re
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