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   2 2011-02-04T00:33:38  <espeed> just cloned 2.0-dev and it keeps crashing when I start it with "AttributeError: type object 'EventsCodes' has no attribute 'IN_DELETE_SELF'"
   3 2011-02-04T00:33:58  <ThomasWaldmann> hi espeed
   4 2011-02-04T00:34:05  <ThomasWaldmann> traceback > pastebin?
   5 2011-02-04T00:35:45  <espeed> Sure. which pastebin should I use?
   6 2011-02-04T00:36:19  <ThomasWaldmann> paste.pocoo.org
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   8 2011-02-04T00:37:54  <espeed> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331906/
   9 2011-02-04T00:39:15  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, that is in werkzeug
  10 2011-02-04T00:40:00  <ThomasWaldmann> your python version?
  11 2011-02-04T00:40:54  <espeed> 2.6.6
  12 2011-02-04T00:41:48  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, same here. even same werkzeug, but it does not crash for me.
  13 2011-02-04T00:42:11  <ThomasWaldmann> how did you install that? quickinstall script?
  14 2011-02-04T00:42:31  <ThomasWaldmann> linux?
  15 2011-02-04T00:42:32  <espeed> yes,
  16 2011-02-04T00:42:36  <espeed> ubuntu
  17 2011-02-04T00:43:27  <ThomasWaldmann> same here
  18 2011-02-04T00:43:28  <espeed> I installed it twice --  once via setup.py then later with quickinstall after I ran virtualenv
  19 2011-02-04T00:43:56  <espeed> maybe I should blow it away and try again
  20 2011-02-04T00:44:10  <espeed> is the quickinstall the preferred method?
  21 2011-02-04T00:44:18  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
  22 2011-02-04T00:44:35  <ThomasWaldmann> please do a hg pull -u to make sure you have current repo
  23 2011-02-04T00:44:45  <ThomasWaldmann> then kill env/ dir and all inside
  24 2011-02-04T00:45:05  <ThomasWaldmann> then just run ./quickinstall from the workdir
  25 2011-02-04T00:45:23  <espeed> will a "make clean" clean everything up properly?
  26 2011-02-04T00:46:00  <ThomasWaldmann> not the env
  27 2011-02-04T00:46:12  <ThomasWaldmann> just rm -rf env/
  28 2011-02-04T00:46:25  * ThomasWaldmann runs quickinstall to get same state
  29 2011-02-04T00:47:33  <ThomasWaldmann> after that run:
  30 2011-02-04T00:47:40  <ThomasWaldmann> source env/bin/activate
  31 2011-02-04T00:47:42  <ThomasWaldmann> ./moin
  32 2011-02-04T00:48:31  <espeed> ok...so quickinstall runs virtualenv on its own?
  33 2011-02-04T00:48:44  <ThomasWaldmann> just look inside :)
  34 2011-02-04T00:49:06  <espeed> quickinstall is running :)
  35 2011-02-04T00:50:17  <espeed> my goal is to enable the neo4j graph db as a backend
  36 2011-02-04T00:51:01  <ThomasWaldmann> wah, werkzeug install sucks
  37 2011-02-04T00:54:10  * ThomasWaldmann gets an exception when installing werkzeug-dev
  38 2011-02-04T00:57:57  <espeed> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/331914/
  39 2011-02-04T00:59:58  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, as i said :(
  40 2011-02-04T01:00:39  <ThomasWaldmann> if mitsuhiko would wake up and fix that (so that just installing werkzeug==dev works), that would be a real relief
  41 2011-02-04T01:05:41  <ThomasWaldmann> espeed: i maybe can fix the werkzeug dl
  42 2011-02-04T01:06:12  <ThomasWaldmann> in case github does not time out any more...
  43 2011-02-04T01:07:03  <espeed> I'm using easy_install to manually install Werkzeug, Flask, and Babel while in env
  44 2011-02-04T01:07:44  <ThomasWaldmann> espeed: the problem is that we need werkzeug > 0.6.2
  45 2011-02-04T01:08:53  <espeed> I see...sure enough easy_install installed 0.6.2
  46 2011-02-04T01:09:08  <ThomasWaldmann> most stuff might also work with 0.6.2 but not all
  47 2011-02-04T01:15:13  <ThomasWaldmann> espeed: do you get same exception with 0.6.2?
  48 2011-02-04T01:15:39  <ThomasWaldmann> i am currently out of luck installing werkzeug dev as github has problems
  49 2011-02-04T01:16:20  <espeed> didn't get that far...I am gettting ImportError: No module named flaskext.babel
  50 2011-02-04T01:17:00  <ThomasWaldmann> espeed: it likely broke the install at werkzeug and maybe ignored all stuff afterwards
  51 2011-02-04T01:17:19  <espeed> it looks that way
  52 2011-02-04T01:17:30  <ThomasWaldmann> espeed: you could try werkzeug==0.6.2 in setup.py and run quickinstall again
  53 2011-02-04T01:17:54  <espeed> I'll do that...
  54 2011-02-04T01:18:33  <ThomasWaldmann>         'Werkzeug==0.6.2', # wsgi toolkit, minimum rev 0.7dev 2010/12
  55 2011-02-04T01:20:00  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, it downloads 0.6.2 that way
  56 2011-02-04T01:20:40  <ThomasWaldmann> has the nice side-effect that i can the the Date header bug with 0.6.2 now :)
  57 2011-02-04T01:20:41  <espeed> re-running quickinstall now
  58 2011-02-04T01:22:17  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, works for me now
  59 2011-02-04T01:32:06  <espeed> set up is still running -- the weather has been causing the Internet connection to run slow today
  60 2011-02-04T01:35:17  <ThomasWaldmann> texas? snow?
  61 2011-02-04T01:37:18  <espeed> Yes -- snow and ice for the Super Bowl in Dallas
  62 2011-02-04T01:39:32  <ThomasWaldmann> what climate is it usually in Jan/Feb?
  63 2011-02-04T01:40:10  <espeed> it's usually cold...just not in the teens
  64 2011-02-04T01:41:27  <espeed> and when the streets ice over, the cities aren't really equipped to de-ice the roads like they are in the north
  65 2011-02-04T01:41:53  <ThomasWaldmann> sure, if it is rather rare...
  66 2011-02-04T01:42:28  <espeed> I'm out of the city right now and on a line-of-site antenna that's been flaky the last few days
  67 2011-02-04T01:46:15  * ThomasWaldmann suspects that maybe the werkzeug-dev tarball download had issues before it completely stopped working
  68 2011-02-04T01:50:31  <espeed> it appears that quickinstall isn't installing the dependencies
  69 2011-02-04T01:50:48  <espeed> it installs AnyWikiDraw and stops
  70 2011-02-04T01:51:02  <ThomasWaldmann> it first does a pip install -e .
  71 2011-02-04T01:51:15  <ThomasWaldmann> that should pull in all dependencies listed in setup.py
  72 2011-02-04T01:51:59  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if you have to run it multiple times due to issues maybe comment out the stuff it successfully did
  73 2011-02-04T01:52:06  <ThomasWaldmann> esp. if your connection is slow
  74 2011-02-04T01:53:04  <espeed> ahh...permissions error
  75 2011-02-04T01:53:27  <espeed> some of the files were owned by root
  76 2011-02-04T01:53:40  <espeed> from when I ran install under sudo
  77 2011-02-04T01:54:26  <ThomasWaldmann> ah
  78 2011-02-04T01:54:40  <ThomasWaldmann> you don't need to do anything as root with quickinstall
  79 2011-02-04T01:59:01  <espeed> how have you liked Flask?
  80 2011-02-04T01:59:15  <ThomasWaldmann> it's nice
  81 2011-02-04T02:00:41  <espeed> I have been looking at it, web.py and Pyramid for a few projects and am leaning toward using Flask for the next one
  82 2011-02-04T02:02:08  <ThomasWaldmann> i like the pocoo stuff. it's usually quite clean code and well done.
  83 2011-02-04T02:04:32  <ThomasWaldmann> (I didn't look at too much other framework / web python stuff though, but in general one often sees much worse code)
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  86 2011-02-04T02:13:58  <espeed> Success!
  87 2011-02-04T02:14:14  <ThomasWaldmann> :)
  88 2011-02-04T02:14:19  <espeed> moinmoin2 is up and running
  89 2011-02-04T02:14:32  <espeed> Thank you, Thomas!
  90 2011-02-04T02:15:23  <ThomasWaldmann> you're welcome!
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  92 2011-02-04T02:31:29  <ThomasWaldmann> espeed: btw, if you are new to moin, there is a little developer-docs additionally to the wiki and sourcecode comments in docs/devel
  93 2011-02-04T02:36:39  <espeed> thank you...I'm reading http://moinmo.in/Storage2009/HelpOnStorageDevelopment now
  94 2011-02-04T02:45:37  <ThomasWaldmann> take it with a grain of salt :)
  95 2011-02-04T02:46:35  <ThomasWaldmann> it might be still ok about the general idea, but details might differ meanwhile
  96 2011-02-04T02:51:15  <ThomasWaldmann> and there is still some unfinished stuff, e.g. indexing and uuid based access
  97 2011-02-04T02:52:24  <espeed> ok
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 100 2011-02-04T04:44:19  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10359:d30a451fb64c 2.0-dev/setup.py: fixed github download url. if they fix content-type header, it could even work again.
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 105 2011-02-04T08:29:06  <Marchael> moin
 106 2011-02-04T09:42:20  <dreimark> moin
 107 2011-02-04T09:44:01  <dreimark> espeed: neo4j == nosql database?
 108 2011-02-04T09:45:54  * dreimark googled - yes. 
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 118 2011-02-04T11:51:22  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
 119 2011-02-04T11:57:49  <eSyr> moin
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 131 2011-02-04T17:08:24  <ThomasWaldmann> hi NikitaUtiu
 132 2011-02-04T17:08:31  <NikitaUtiu> hi
 133 2011-02-04T17:08:37  <NikitaUtiu> i'm back
 134 2011-02-04T17:08:39  <ThomasWaldmann> got your mail :)
 135 2011-02-04T17:08:42  <ThomasWaldmann> great!
 136 2011-02-04T17:13:08  <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: i see you merged moin2 12d ago - shall I merge your changes back into main repo or is it a bad time right now?
 137 2011-02-04T17:13:39  <NikitaUtiu> no i'm at home now, i have some free time
 138 2011-02-04T17:13:51  <NikitaUtiu> i mean yes :D
 139 2011-02-04T17:14:01  <ThomasWaldmann> ok :)
 140 2011-02-04T17:14:18  <ThomasWaldmann> so, for the feature set implemented right now, it works(tm)? :)
 141 2011-02-04T17:17:16  <NikitaUtiu> just a check
 142 2011-02-04T17:19:02  <NikitaUtiu> yes it works
 143 2011-02-04T17:19:17  <ThomasWaldmann> can you do another pull from main repo?
 144 2011-02-04T17:19:23  <NikitaUtiu> ok
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 146 2011-02-04T17:21:42  <NikitaUtiu> merged
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 148 2011-02-04T17:29:07  <ThomasWaldmann> sorry, just had to deal with a gci cheater :|
 149 2011-02-04T17:33:09  <ThomasWaldmann> (to make sure he doesn't get paid for cheating big time)
 150 2011-02-04T17:34:00  * ThomasWaldmann looks at nikita's changesets
 151 2011-02-04T17:36:03  <ThomasWaldmann> the graphical lines left of the changesets on bb looks strange...
 152 2011-02-04T17:39:05  <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: +    isOpenID = ('openid_submit' in request.values or
 153 2011-02-04T17:39:05  <ThomasWaldmann> +               'openid_submit' in request.form)
 154 2011-02-04T17:39:32  <ThomasWaldmann> .values should be .args + .form iirc
 155 2011-02-04T17:39:50  <ThomasWaldmann> so the 2nd part might be not needed
 156 2011-02-04T17:40:47  <ThomasWaldmann> NikitaUtiu: can you please check indentation, it looks like some stuff is indented wrong
 157 2011-02-04T17:41:15  <ThomasWaldmann> in frontend.views:
 158 2011-02-04T17:41:16  <ThomasWaldmann> +                form = RegistrationForm.from_defaults()
 159 2011-02-04T17:41:16  <ThomasWaldmann> +                TextCha(form).amend_form()
 160 2011-02-04T17:44:07  <NikitaUtiu> you were right with that values stuff
 161 2011-02-04T17:44:22  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10360:dd632843bf52 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py templates/login.html): improved aspect and functionality of login view forms
 162 2011-02-04T17:44:27  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10361:4c1f51eb3f9b 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py auth/openidrp.py templates/login.html): cleanup of code in openid login
 163 2011-02-04T17:44:28  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10362:af2e648f8a84 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py auth/openidrp.py templates/login.html): merged with main
 164 2011-02-04T17:44:29  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10363:90a44f210f37 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: wrapped openid multistage html in a flask Response
 165 2011-02-04T17:44:31  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10365:45855b6002e3 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: Backed out changeset 90a44f210f37
 166 2011-02-04T17:44:33  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10367:8692d35b9031 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: reverted the unwanted commit
 167 2011-02-04T17:44:35  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10369:bdd7696eebb4 2.0-dev/wikiconfig.py: removed debug code
 168 2011-02-04T17:44:36  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10370:a7ba7d26ccd5 2.0-dev/ (3 files in 3 dirs): improved functionality of trusted_providers for openid
 169 2011-02-04T17:44:43  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10371:9c83d14e8cb6 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/openidrp.py: modified the OpenIDAuth constructor to make a copy of the trusted_providers
 170 2011-02-04T17:44:43  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10364:b0e10a8dbdf8 2.0-dev/ (5 files in 4 dirs): removed openid from usersettings and register view
 171 2011-02-04T17:44:45  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10373:96718446a6fc 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): implemented openid create account continuation
 172 2011-02-04T17:44:47  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10375:e244bf0b243d 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (config/default.py user.py): removed unnecessary openid_unique config entry
 173 2011-02-04T17:44:48  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10374:368be8dc0eba 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py auth/openidrp.py user.py): refactored openid view code
 174 2011-02-04T17:44:55  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10377:084cec694894 2.0-dev/ (1407 files in 83 dirs): merged with main
 175 2011-02-04T17:44:57  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10378:b3dc3a8a34fb 2.0-dev/ (220 files in 60 dirs): merged with main
 176 2011-02-04T17:45:02  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10379:3f10a4b16738 2.0-dev/ (450 files in 86 dirs): merged with main
 177 2011-02-04T17:45:04  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10380:766a115eddc6 2.0-dev/ (59 files in 26 dirs): merged with main
 178 2011-02-04T17:45:06  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10366:df5251d121d9 2.0-dev/ (5 files in 4 dirs): merged
 179 2011-02-04T17:45:07  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10368:d39d9ac51b7c 2.0-dev/ (6 files in 4 dirs): merged with main
 180 2011-02-04T17:45:09  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10372:1420edfa8a97 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/openidrp.py: improved security of OpenIDAuth
 181 2011-02-04T17:45:11  <CIA-65> Nichita Utiu <nikita.utiu@gmail.com> default * 10376:0bbdf6b9a419 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (apps/frontend/views.py templates/usersettings.html):
 182 2011-02-04T17:45:11  <CIA-65> openid can now be changed from usersettings
 183 2011-02-04T17:45:11  <CIA-65> double check for openid, username, and email duplication in settings
 184 2011-02-04T17:45:25  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, I need to go now, but if you please could have a review of your work yourself, I'ld do another pull/merge later
 185 2011-02-04T17:45:34  <NikitaUtiu> ok
 186 2011-02-04T17:46:26  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks for working on openid, moin2 users will appreciate it :)
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 194 2011-02-04T19:10:04  <ThomasWaldmann> does anybody have an idea how openid with a google account should work now with moin?
 195 2011-02-04T19:11:19  <TheSheep> google accounts are pretty much broken in this respect
 196 2011-02-04T19:11:27  <TheSheep> you will always get the same domain
 197 2011-02-04T19:11:59  <TheSheep> no idea why they did it like that
 198 2011-02-04T19:17:08  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.google.com/profiles/ThomasMoinWaldmann < that works, but I had to create it first
 199 2011-02-04T19:17:37  <ThomasWaldmann> (and of course any usual form of my name was not available :| )
 200 2011-02-04T19:24:05  <espeed> ThomasWaldmann: I'm new to moin so I don't know the state of moin and openid, but have you looked at Flask-OpenID? http://packages.python.org/Flask-OpenID/
 201 2011-02-04T19:28:17  <ThomasWaldmann> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/OpenID%20with%20moin2
 202 2011-02-04T19:29:50  <ThomasWaldmann> espeed: yes, I know of that and we discussed about it. But Nikita did some own implementation after looking at flask-openid. I don't remember the exact reason, though.
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 207 2011-02-04T20:08:49  <RogerHaase> Trying to install fresh copy of 2.0-dev on Windows/7:  pip install -e . ==> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/332229/
 208 2011-02-04T20:09:22  <ThomasWaldmann> hi Roger
 209 2011-02-04T20:10:17  <RogerHaase> Moin Thomas
 210 2011-02-04T20:10:30  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, werkzeug issues
 211 2011-02-04T20:10:52  <ThomasWaldmann> you can try editing setup.py and put Werkzeug==0.6.2 there
 212 2011-02-04T20:11:43  <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is that installing werkzeug==dev does not work because pypi has a wrong link in the werkzeug record
 213 2011-02-04T20:12:07  <ThomasWaldmann> what you see in the current setup.py is how i tried to work around that, by using a git repo tarball
 214 2011-02-04T20:12:32  <ThomasWaldmann> it worked for one day, then github broke it by serving a file without content-type now
 215 2011-02-04T20:14:19  <ThomasWaldmann> i posted already an issue report to github's support forum and mitsuhiko (werkzeug author) also knows the problem
 216 2011-02-04T20:14:33  <RogerHaase> Running now, looks better.
 217 2011-02-04T20:14:52  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: if you got it working, could you add a quickinstall.cmd for windows?
 218 2011-02-04T20:17:05  <RogerHaase> Works :)
 219 2011-02-04T20:18:00  <RogerHaase> Will do the quickinstall.bat, but I don't knoe the equivalent of "make mo"
 220 2011-02-04T20:18:11  <RogerHaase> knoe/know
 221 2011-02-04T20:18:27  <ThomasWaldmann> as long as one can live with english, it'll work without that
 222 2011-02-04T20:18:47  <ThomasWaldmann> you could also look into the Makefile, what it does for target "mo"
 223 2011-02-04T20:25:42  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
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 231 2011-02-04T22:21:06  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10381:32ae5f0da84b 2.0-dev/docs/ (2 files in 2 dirs): authentication configuration docs, remove snippet
 232 2011-02-04T22:22:40  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: did you ever try ldap_login with moin2?
 233 2011-02-04T22:37:00  <RogerHaase> jquery and svgweb are not being loaded on Windows ==> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/332321/
 234 2011-02-04T22:38:28  <ThomasWaldmann> do you have them under env/ ?
 235 2011-02-04T22:39:08  <ThomasWaldmann> for linux, the quickinstall script wgets and untars them
 236 2011-02-04T22:40:10  <ThomasWaldmann> (we really should have static file packages for such stuff, I am just waiting whether the fanstatic guys do it in a reusable way or not in the near future)
 237 2011-02-04T22:41:35  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10382:d97ed87a3a72 2.0-dev/docs/ (4 files in 2 dirs): docs: split into serve and configure docs, use pre sections
 238 2011-02-04T22:43:53  <RogerHaase> they are not installed under env;  ...looking for bugs in my quickinstall.bat
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 240 2011-02-04T22:59:21  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10383:ff4bcd3ae63c 2.0-dev/docs/ (admin/configure.rst examples/config/logging/README): docs: describe logging configuration
 241 2011-02-04T23:32:17  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10384:4327206b4790 2.0-dev/docs/admin/configure.rst: docs: describe configuration basics
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 243 2011-02-04T23:47:33  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10385:779a78f87931 2.0-dev/ (4 files in 3 dirs): move REQUIREMENTS content to the admin docs
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 245 2011-02-04T23:59:49  <CIA-65> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 10386:0aa72e21de1b 2.0-dev/ (setup.py README.txt README): rename README to README.txt, use it for setup's long_description

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