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  24 2014-06-09T12:35:54  <RogerHaase> randomax: moin :)  did you read chat log here about your commits http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2014-06-07#CA-7e52a95622d5f5d0b399a6c05f8d83e34178c873_355
  25 2014-06-09T12:36:54  <RogerHaase> randomax: I am thinking you had multiple local repos and they got out of sync
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  27 2014-06-09T12:40:17  <RogerHaase> randomax: after pulling those 2 commits in main repo, basic.css was still out of sync with basic.less and tw ran ./m css and did one more commit https://bitbucket.org/thomaswaldmann/moin-2.0/commits/b6437eb6e332c93cb5e8cb7f18b9590790757808
  28 2014-06-09T12:43:53  <RogerHaase> randomax: so the question is, do you understand how that happened and do you now have all your local repos up to date and in sync so that when you do ./m css, there are no changes?
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  32 2014-06-09T14:21:46  <randomax> RogerHaase, yes.. i'm really sorry.. i think i messed up in a hurry..
  33 2014-06-09T14:23:13  <randomax> i was working on the advanced search.. will put up a cr in a couple of hours..
  34 2014-06-09T14:32:28  <RogerHaase> randomax: do you understand how that happened and do you now have all your local repos up to date and in sync so that when you do ./m css, there are no changes?
  35 2014-06-09T15:15:50  <randomax> yes
  36 2014-06-09T15:15:56  <randomax> i have updated them
  37 2014-06-09T15:20:50  <RogerHaase> randomax: time flys, your blog needs updating soon
  38 2014-06-09T15:24:41  <RogerHaase> randomax: one topic for blog would be to explain how that commit problem happened so you show your are learning how to use hg tools
  39 2014-06-09T15:25:24  <randomax> yeah.. i thought i'll finish with the search and write about it... ok i'll write about that too
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  43 2014-06-09T16:10:27  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, I have added search feature in +tickets view
  44 2014-06-09T16:10:33  <skathpalia> Here is the cr https://codereview.appspot.com/102140045
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  46 2014-06-09T16:33:29  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  47 2014-06-09T16:34:22  <ThomasWaldmann> skathpalia: btw, see backlog. ticket update is not working correctly.
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  49 2014-06-09T16:40:10  <ThomasWaldmann> also, is there still the "create ticket" button missing?
  50 2014-06-09T16:42:26  <skathpalia> If you access the ticket by itemid <domain>/@itemid/ITEMID_OF_TICKET then update is working
  51 2014-06-09T16:44:37  <skathpalia> Yeah there is no create ticket update button
  52 2014-06-09T16:44:56  <skathpalia> I will also work on that
  53 2014-06-09T16:45:33  <skathpalia> I mean "create ticket button"
  54 2014-06-09T16:46:25  <skathpalia> I have again checked it Ticket update is working in mine
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  56 2014-06-09T16:50:26  <skathpalia> ThomasWaldmann, if you create a ticket and then update it it shows that there exists no item as the name doesn't remain associated with the tickets
  57 2014-06-09T16:52:44  <skathpalia> Now you can access it by going to history and then click on the last modified button and then you get the same ticket
  58 2014-06-09T16:52:53  <ThomasWaldmann> skathpalia: for creating a new ticket, how shall I give the url with @itemid - i don't know the itemid yet
  59 2014-06-09T16:53:13  <skathpalia> I mean after creating ticket
  60 2014-06-09T16:53:23  <ThomasWaldmann> so, to create a ticket, i need to use a name. and if i update that later, it will fail.
  61 2014-06-09T16:53:40  <skathpalia> No update doesn't fail
  62 2014-06-09T16:53:55  <ThomasWaldmann> and it will lose the name magically without me doing anything for that.
  63 2014-06-09T16:54:10  <skathpalia> It just shows that item with that name doesn't exist
  64 2014-06-09T16:54:24  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, but why? i have created it with a name.
  65 2014-06-09T16:54:39  <skathpalia> But tickets are not intended to have name
  66 2014-06-09T16:54:52  <skathpalia> Name is just used for creation purpose
  67 2014-06-09T16:55:03  <ThomasWaldmann> yes. but that doesn't mean that they should magically lose metadata that was already there.
  68 2014-06-09T16:55:24  <ThomasWaldmann> so, you have to do 2 things:
  69 2014-06-09T16:55:58  <ThomasWaldmann> a) make ticket creation possible without using a name. a button "create ticket" on +tickets seems best.
  70 2014-06-09T16:56:21  <ThomasWaldmann> b) make sure that updating a ticket does not lose any metadata that was in the ticket before.
  71 2014-06-09T16:56:33  <skathpalia> Okay will try to do that
  72 2014-06-09T16:56:51  <ThomasWaldmann> just don't touch the name
  73 2014-06-09T16:57:02  <ThomasWaldmann> CR done
  74 2014-06-09T16:58:19  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, that display you use on the tickets list, you need to have that code in a reusable form (showing "<SHORTID> <summary>")
  75 2014-06-09T16:58:54  <ThomasWaldmann> because you also need it at least for global history (maybe also for local history)
  76 2014-06-09T16:59:37  <ThomasWaldmann> so there needs to be some general "show a text representation of this object" to be used at some places
  77 2014-06-09T17:00:41  <ThomasWaldmann> so try to do stuff once right and then reuse at all places where you need same thing
  78 2014-06-09T17:04:22  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, for the create issue thing: the itemid will be generated by the storage subsystem (not by your code).
  79 2014-06-09T17:06:20  <ThomasWaldmann> so maybe you need a new view (url) that triggers new item creation without the usual "oops, i didn't find that item, let's offer creation of a new one" magic, but just "create a new one"
  80 2014-06-09T17:07:19  <skathpalia> You mean a view that supports creation of item without any name
  81 2014-06-09T17:07:24  <skathpalia> right?
  82 2014-06-09T17:07:37  <ThomasWaldmann> see my last sentence
  83 2014-06-09T17:08:07  <ThomasWaldmann> you only needed the name to trigger that "oops, I didn't find it" magic
  84 2014-06-09T17:08:17  <ThomasWaldmann> a non-existing name, to be precise
  85 2014-06-09T17:08:54  <ThomasWaldmann> also, even if one did that (using a non-existing name), the UX of that was a pain:
  86 2014-06-09T17:09:11  <ThomasWaldmann> it first says "oops, didn't find it, wanna create a new one?"
  87 2014-06-09T17:09:41  <ThomasWaldmann> then it asks "which type?" (we already know the type for "create ticket", no need to ask)
  88 2014-06-09T17:10:46  <ThomasWaldmann> and then it usually asks for a template (that could be useful maybe)
  89 2014-06-09T17:11:06  <ThomasWaldmann> there could be templates for bugs, enhancement requests, ideas
  90 2014-06-09T17:12:29  <ThomasWaldmann> so, summarizing: after "create ticket" it should only ask for which template and then you have the ticket submission form on screen)
  91 2014-06-09T17:13:57  <skathpalia> Then may be we need to add another field in ticket meta data
  92 2014-06-09T17:14:27  <skathpalia> which would define whether it is enhancement, bug etc
  93 2014-06-09T17:15:01  <ThomasWaldmann> no, you would just load the appropriate template into the ticket form
  94 2014-06-09T17:15:24  <ThomasWaldmann> like for a wiki item the template gets loaded into the wiki item content field
  95 2014-06-09T17:16:07  <skathpalia> What would be differences in the templates of these?
  96 2014-06-09T17:16:43  <ThomasWaldmann> well a bug template could ask for steps how to reproduce, software release where the bug happens, OS, ...
  97 2014-06-09T17:17:01  <ThomasWaldmann> a enhancement request would ask for the idea, the use case
  98 2014-06-09T17:17:10  <skathpalia> I mean how can someone differentiate between these templates if no tag is mentioned
  99 2014-06-09T17:17:45  <ThomasWaldmann> create a normal wiki item, at one place you get templates shown
 100 2014-06-09T17:18:05  <ThomasWaldmann> (maybe you have none in your wiki, so the list is empty)
 101 2014-06-09T17:18:24  <ThomasWaldmann> but at that step, one can choose initial item content
 102 2014-06-09T17:18:56  <ThomasWaldmann> (if the template stuff is too complicated, you can skip it for first implementation)
 103 2014-06-09T17:19:26  <skathpalia> Yeah I will first try to make a create ticket button which creates a ticket without any name
 104 2014-06-09T17:19:45  <skathpalia> and then I will try for this template thing
 105 2014-06-09T17:19:45  <ThomasWaldmann> but the very generic mechanism is that one can have template items of all sort of content-types/item-types in the wiki and gets offered them when creating a new item of same type
 106 2014-06-09T17:20:31  <ThomasWaldmann> and please do not invent the wheel for that, the workflow of item creation is already there, just hook into that correctly
 107 2014-06-09T17:21:09  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe have a look whether we have that for blog items already or whether it is missing there also
 108 2014-06-09T17:21:45  <skathpalia> iirc it is missing for blog items also
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