MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2005-11-30

2005-11-30T00:21:51  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: can you update your magic lazy-man working copy of moinmoin?
2005-11-30T00:26:53  <ThomasWaldmann> i restarted it a minute ago
2005-11-30T00:28:30  <xorAxAx> was not necessary, i just wanted to see the new logo :)
2005-11-30T00:28:38  <xorAxAx> looks ok here
2005-11-30T00:28:56  <xorAxAx> but not in ie
2005-11-30T00:29:11  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: are you sure that you updated the htdocs?
2005-11-30T00:29:39  <xorAxAx> i tested this in IE and it worked, so either you or tla made a mistake :)
2005-11-30T00:30:24  <ThomasWaldmann> wait, i change the config to refer to workdir
2005-11-30T00:31:43  <xorAxAx> i dont recommend that :)
2005-11-30T00:31:56  <xorAxAx> yeah, better in IE
2005-11-30T00:32:31  <xorAxAx> but looks worse in other browsers
2005-11-30T00:32:50  <ThomasWaldmann> what's the correct one now? moinmoin.png or moinmoin_alpha.png?
2005-11-30T00:33:12  <xorAxAx> the latter one is the original, both should be shipped and the first one has a fix for IE
2005-11-30T00:33:23  <xorAxAx> so i suggest to keep the first, i.e. the correct one
2005-11-30T00:33:27  <ThomasWaldmann> document that in CHANGES
2005-11-30T00:33:35  <xorAxAx> hmm, ok
2005-11-30T00:35:37  <xorAxAx> committing
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2005-11-30T00:38:04  <xorAxAx> if we want to optimise this problem, we either ship two different files based on the browser or include a short JS file that adds alpha png support for IE
2005-11-30T00:40:40  <ThomasWaldmann> for me the currently shown logo looks good enough
2005-11-30T00:41:13  <ThomasWaldmann> and if MS manages to fix their browser, we can swap the logo (in some years :| )
2005-11-30T00:43:54  <xorAxAx> yeah
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2005-11-30T21:52:04  <xorAxAx> ok, the reason of the bug is obvious
2005-11-30T21:52:10  <xorAxAx> the translation chain is not bijective
2005-11-30T21:52:27  <xorAxAx> it expects the browser to fixup the formatters output
2005-11-30T21:52:41  <xorAxAx> i am currently diffing the html to find out what the browser rewrites
2005-11-30T21:52:44  <xorAxAx> Th
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2005-11-30T21:53:26  <ThomasWaldmann> oops :)
2005-11-30T22:01:46  <starshine> I only took the briefest glance at that Gui / Source / Preview bug in IE for XPsp2
2005-11-30T22:02:18  <starshine> but other than that it didn't display the page when I went too *fast* through these steps... it didn't bomb when I waited for them
2005-11-30T22:02:37  <xorAxAx> 21:52:03 < xorAxAx> ok, the reason of the bug is obvious
2005-11-30T22:02:37  <xorAxAx> 21:52:10 < xorAxAx> the translation chain is not bijective
2005-11-30T22:02:37  <xorAxAx> 21:52:27 < xorAxAx> it expects the browser to fixup the formatters output
2005-11-30T22:02:37  <xorAxAx> 21:52:41 < xorAxAx> i am currently diffing the html to find out what the browser rewrites
2005-11-30T22:02:40  <starshine> I have a w98 borg around here somewhere, but would have to find a monitor to attach it too.
2005-11-30T22:03:50  <starshine> I suspect he's right, if we generate poor html some browsers will repair it silently, others complain but deal, and the most fragile will crash or be weird about it.
2005-11-30T22:04:22  <starshine> unfortunately I can't get a debugging report from lynx because it won't be offered the gui clicker :)
2005-11-30T22:05:44  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/GuiEditorJoinsParagraphs/Example the html we generate for that is bullshit
2005-11-30T22:06:51  <ThomasWaldmann> (no matter whether we use text_html or text_html or text_gedit formatter
2005-11-30T22:06:55  <ThomasWaldmann> )
2005-11-30T22:09:30  <xorAxAx> yeah, mainly line ids
2005-11-30T22:23:00  <ThomasWaldmann> i think it should look similar to a ol
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