MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2006-01-03

2006-01-03T00:05:52  <xorAxAx> [PERIODIC ANNOUNCEMENT] Logs can be found on http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev
2006-01-03T07:50:42  <lydon> moin
2006-01-03T17:36:42  <xorAxAx> Fabi: please see http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/LargeFontInSafari and realise that the bug is still there and unrelated to old caches (This message has been postponed.)
2006-01-03T20:55:11  <xorAxAx> 20:55:02 < xorAxAx> Fabi: because thomas has cleaned the cache very often already
2006-01-03T20:56:34  <xorAxAx> Fabi: hmm, maybe he didnt run it on the data dir of moinmaster
2006-01-03T20:56:39  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: only you know :)
2006-01-03T20:59:21  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2006-01-03T21:13:43  <dreimark> moin ThomasWaldmann, do you have seen the last css patch?
2006-01-03T21:50:54  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: so, did you clean the moinmaster dir back then? (cache)
2006-01-03T21:59:41  <Fabi> if two different moin versions write the caches cleaning them doesn't help
2006-01-03T22:00:18  <xorAxAx> they have been synchronised  for a few weeks
2006-01-03T22:01:06  <Fabi> may be there is a third wiki using the same underlay dir?
2006-01-03T22:06:31  <xorAxAx> hmm, yeah
2006-01-03T22:06:38  <xorAxAx> pythonwiki, jurawiki etc.
2006-01-03T22:06:43  <xorAxAx> they are on 1.3 AFAIK
2006-01-03T22:06:47  <starshine> whoopsy
2006-01-03T22:07:03  <xorAxAx> and the admin doesnt mind :)
2006-01-03T22:15:15  <Fabi> so this is a bug in the setup and not in MoinMoin
2006-01-03T22:16:51  <xorAxAx> yeah, but he should confirm it
2006-01-03T22:16:54  <xorAxAx> we can just guess
2006-01-03T22:17:00  <starshine>   Note: don't mix moin 1.3 and moin 1.5 farms
2006-01-03T22:17:19  <starshine> ...I thought there weren't storage changes?
2006-01-03T22:19:30  <xorAxAx> starshine: the cache is always incompatible to other versions
2006-01-03T22:20:03  <starshine> ok.  so 1.3.4 and 1.3.5 would have been similarly incompatible?
2006-01-03T22:20:14  <Fabi> starshine, you can't mix them in farms as farm - per definition - runs only one version
2006-01-03T22:20:30  <starshine> but sharing an underlay..
2006-01-03T22:20:34  <starshine> hm ok
2006-01-03T22:20:34  <xorAxAx> starshine: yeah
2006-01-03T22:20:36  <starshine> poor wording
2006-01-03T22:20:45  <xorAxAx> thomas should know :)
2006-01-03T22:20:55  <Fabi> normally the caches are automatically updated
2006-01-03T22:21:04  * starshine leaves it to the guy who knows how to break stuff the best :)
2006-01-03T22:21:17  <Fabi> but tis doesn't help if there are two concurrent moin installations
2006-01-03T22:21:57  <xorAxAx> yeah, different python versions would impose similar problems
2006-01-03T22:22:07  <xorAxAx> not with page caches, but with pickles etc.
2006-01-03T22:22:27  * starshine proposes DontDoThatThen page, bad things to not do
2006-01-03T22:34:36  <Fabi> xorAxAx, nope, the other way round
2006-01-03T22:34:45  <Fabi> not with pickles but with page caches
2006-01-03T22:35:09  <xorAxAx> Fabi: page caches cannot be loaded because marshal raises an exception, right?
2006-01-03T22:35:16  <xorAxAx> Fabi: so they are regenerated
2006-01-03T22:35:32  <Fabi> ehmm, yes true
2006-01-03T22:36:00  <Fabi> there are no pickles shared between wikis
2006-01-03T22:36:22  <Fabi> and python grants thtat pickles are at least upward compatible
2006-01-03T22:36:52  <xorAxAx> via underlay, they are
2006-01-03T22:36:53  <xorAxAx> does it?
2006-01-03T22:37:52  <Fabi> yep, what pickles are in underlay?
2006-01-03T22:38:23  <xorAxAx> on thomas machine, many, but they are just read by moinmaster, so you are right
2006-01-03T23:10:30  <ThomasWaldmann> text_html is likely the problem
2006-01-03T23:34:54  <Fabi> ThomasWaldmann, can you please use one underlay dir per Moin version?
2006-01-03T23:35:10  <Fabi> I bet the problem will go away then
2006-01-03T23:42:52  <ThomasWaldmann> i will upgrade all 1.3 wikis soon
2006-01-03T23:43:22  <Fabi> .oO(doesn't sound that bad)