2006-08-30T08:01:46 <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: I'll be working on the code this evening or/and next saturday. I'll need to track down what in the world is causing the internal error in apache, or at least find a workaround for it.
2006-08-30T08:02:11 <mvirkkil> ThomasWaldmann: and naturally upload and write more documentation.
2006-08-30T08:30:35 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2006-08-30T09:17:48 <Kepplar> moin
2006-08-30T09:18:14 <Kepplar> did work on my aval last night
2006-08-30T09:18:19 <Kepplar> eval even
2006-08-30T09:52:09 <ThomasWaldmann> as long it's not evil :)))
2006-08-30T11:25:15 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: btw, you can commit not sync-related stuff to the main branch
2006-08-30T11:25:51 <ThomasWaldmann> and as soc is over now and sync merged in main, you even can commit sync-related stuff to main
2006-08-30T14:12:48 <ThomasWaldmann> http://einstein.speech-design.de/sdwiki/StartSeite?action=pdf <- PDF traceback :))
2006-08-30T14:17:31 <xorAxAx> nice
2006-08-30T19:36:29 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: feature requests arent bugs
2006-08-30T19:37:29 <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: Ok. I just couldn't find a better place for feature requests.
2006-08-30T19:37:32 <Kepplar> hi
2006-08-30T19:37:39 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: MoinMoin:FeatureRequest
2006-08-30T19:37:40 <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: Feel free to move it (but please let me know where to)
2006-08-30T19:37:44 <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: crap.
2006-08-30T19:37:47 * mvirkkil is blind
2006-08-30T19:37:49 <xorAxAx> mvirkkil: please move it yourself :)
2006-08-30T19:37:56 <xorAxAx> and read the frontpage where it is linked :)
2006-08-30T19:38:28 <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: Yeah I will. I can't see how I overlooked that. I even searched the wiki.
2006-08-30T19:38:39 <mvirkkil> I guess I typoed it or something.
2006-08-30T19:59:35 <mvirkkil> xorAxAx: moved
2006-08-30T20:33:31 <Kepplar> hey
2006-08-30T20:33:37 <Kepplar> xorAxAx: is the patch file for 1.6 or 1.5?
2006-08-30T20:33:43 <xorAxAx> Kepplar: which one?
2006-08-30T20:33:50 <Kepplar> one ofmy branch
2006-08-30T20:34:25 <xorAxAx> ?
2006-08-30T20:34:33 <Kepplar> didnt you make the patch files?
2006-08-30T20:34:38 <xorAxAx> ah, that one
2006-08-30T20:34:42 <xorAxAx> you cannot apply it
2006-08-30T20:34:54 <xorAxAx> its solely made for doing statistics
2006-08-30T20:34:55 <Kepplar> ?
2006-08-30T20:35:06 <Kepplar> statistics?
2006-08-30T20:35:10 <xorAxAx> yes
2006-08-30T20:35:17 <Kepplar> what stats?
2006-08-30T20:35:20 <xorAxAx> written code lines etc.
2006-08-30T20:35:28 <Kepplar> what for?
2006-08-30T20:35:38 <Kepplar> i dont see any questions regarding that
2006-08-30T20:36:29 <Kepplar> what code do we submit then?
2006-08-30T20:36:30 <xorAxAx> google wants to see the code written by the student in the particular timeframe
2006-08-30T20:36:37 <xorAxAx> and that file is usable for that
2006-08-30T20:36:44 <xorAxAx> btw, i think yours is biggest, right?
2006-08-30T20:36:53 <Kepplar> i think so
2006-08-30T20:37:16 <xorAxAx> so now we have a new reciprocal unit for code quality
2006-08-30T20:37:25 <Kepplar> So we can use it for submission?
2006-08-30T20:37:51 <xorAxAx> Kepplar: i provided an URL to the hg repo in the one line input field and in the comment box a link to the patches file
2006-08-30T20:38:17 <Kepplar> apart from the hacks i was forced to do in the end (i still disagree that i should have had to do it) i think my code quality was pretty top notch apart from the arch issue with sessions I came up with on week 6 :)
2006-08-30T20:42:59 <birkenfeld> hello Kepplar
2006-08-30T20:43:04 <birkenfeld> I really missed you
2006-08-30T20:43:15 <birkenfeld> the weekend was sad...
2006-08-30T20:43:39 <Kepplar> I'm sure :P
2006-08-30T20:45:06 <xorAxAx> Kepplar: umm, i would consider it rather ... notchy
2006-08-30T20:45:35 <Kepplar> notchy?
2006-08-30T20:45:56 <xorAxAx> yes, full of notches
2006-08-30T20:46:09 <Kepplar> eh?
2006-08-30T20:46:38 <xorAxAx> yeah, like dented
2006-08-30T20:46:57 <Kepplar> like what?
2006-08-30T20:47:57 <xorAxAx> battered ....
2006-08-30T20:48:11 <Kepplar> i mean code examples
2006-08-30T20:48:24 <birkenfeld> xorAxAx: did you have a thesaurus for breakfast?
2006-08-30T20:48:26 <Kepplar> As i said anything regarding tot he hacky for integration it I didnt like doing
2006-08-30T20:48:37 <xorAxAx> birkenfeld: no, a clown
2006-08-30T20:48:40 <Kepplar> eugh
2006-08-30T20:48:46 <xorAxAx> birkenfeld: and it wants to free himself
2006-08-30T20:48:54 <birkenfeld> let it out
2006-08-30T20:49:01 <Kepplar> As I said anything regarding the integration I didn't like doing
2006-08-30T20:49:06 <Kepplar> thats better
2006-08-30T20:49:08 <birkenfeld> you'll not manage to keep it in as long as Kepplar's around
2006-08-30T20:49:09 <xorAxAx> Kepplar: yeah, right
2006-08-30T20:50:06 <Kepplar> dude if i had my way the decision over mimetype cache would not have been reversed half way through and integration would have been properly planned
2006-08-30T20:50:40 <Kepplar> and private methods and metadata/data individual access in the storageProxy would have been refactored if I had the time
2006-08-30T20:56:52 <Kepplar> what did people put down for the "coolest thing in soc"
2006-08-30T21:02:12 * Kepplar submits his report
2006-08-30T21:57:02 <Kepplar> anyone here?
2006-08-30T21:57:10 <xorAxAx> no
2006-08-30T21:57:25 <Kepplar> Im looking at this again now that deadlines gone we can start thinking about this properly rather than rushing integration
2006-08-30T21:57:56 <Kepplar> I know where the metadata repeating problem is coming from although I dont know why its displaying on the page
2006-08-30T21:58:31 <Kepplar> quite frankly its pretty crap having seperate metadata when its being combined again for legacy filesystem
2006-08-30T21:58:56 <Kepplar> (you might be catching on that legacy filesystem is half our problem)
2006-08-30T21:59:02 <Kepplar> so what are we going to do?
2006-08-30T21:59:14 <Kepplar> wheres TW?
2006-08-30T22:00:16 <xorAxAx> no idea
2006-08-30T22:00:38 <xorAxAx> if you want to discuss some design ideas, feel free to create a wikipage
2006-08-30T22:01:07 <xorAxAx> and please explain how you would implement features like "RecentChanges" without "combined metadata"
2006-08-30T22:01:22 <Kepplar> i dont know how recentchanges work
2006-08-30T22:01:35 <Kepplar> my idea is along thelines of rip out and replace
2006-08-30T22:01:36 <xorAxAx> umm
2006-08-30T22:01:47 <xorAxAx> i am sure you have used it already
2006-08-30T22:01:59 <xorAxAx> it has a specific set of features
2006-08-30T22:02:00 <Kepplar> not that im aware of
2006-08-30T22:02:05 <xorAxAx> mostly "display the last x changes"
2006-08-30T22:02:11 <Kepplar> but i didnt understand what im changing half the time
2006-08-30T22:02:12 <xorAxAx> its the most important page in a wiki
2006-08-30T22:02:37 <xorAxAx> i really wonder why i cannot stop laughing
2006-08-30T22:02:52 <Kepplar> dont worry imlaughing with you
2006-08-30T22:05:03 <birkenfeld> lol
2006-08-30T22:08:30 <Kepplar> im guessing that uses edit log
2006-08-30T22:08:33 <Kepplar> or something
2006-08-30T22:08:38 <Kepplar> which wasnt migrated
2006-08-30T22:08:46 <Kepplar> that itself is a huge mess
2006-08-30T22:09:13 <mitsuhiko> rofl
2006-08-30T22:09:33 <mitsuhiko> and i know that it uses edit log although i never ever touched the RC code :D
2006-08-30T22:10:04 <Kepplar> mitsuhiko: and you've been here longer than me
2006-08-30T22:10:06 <Kepplar> :P
2006-08-30T22:10:18 <xorAxAx> Kepplar: i am not talking about editlog
2006-08-30T22:10:23 <xorAxAx> just about a solution for the problem
2006-08-30T22:10:32 <xorAxAx> of users wanting to see a list of recent changes
2006-08-30T22:10:40 <Kepplar> yea i know
2006-08-30T22:11:08 <Kepplar> RecentChanges would be a special ItemType
2006-08-30T22:14:10 <Kepplar> i think we need to start drumming out a fixed architecture for the entire project before we can work out how storage can integrate
2006-08-30T22:14:21 <Kepplar> I can't write much of that as I don't know most of the code
2006-08-30T23:03:31 <Kepplar> hi guys
2006-08-30T23:03:42 <Kepplar> see NextGenerationArchitecture
2006-08-30T23:05:22 <xorAxAx> Kepplar: can you please move the text out of the images?
2006-08-30T23:05:28 <xorAxAx> i mean the longer one at the bottom
2006-08-30T23:05:31 <Kepplar> sure
2006-08-30T23:07:40 <Kepplar> done
2006-08-30T23:08:54 <Kepplar> does moin wiki instlalation have svg to raster output formatter?
2006-08-30T23:09:31 <xorAxAx> no top-notch code tried to implement it yet
2006-08-30T23:10:37 <Kepplar> top-notch code didnt write it? that only makes sense if its a genetic algorthm writing moin code :P
2006-08-30T23:11:37 <birkenfeld> Kepplar: could you draw a diagram of the current architecture so that one can compare the approaches?
2006-08-30T23:12:01 <Kepplar> birkenfeld: hahaha :)
2006-08-30T23:12:10 <Kepplar> oh
2006-08-30T23:12:13 <Kepplar> current arch of what?
2006-08-30T23:12:36 <birkenfeld> Moin?
2006-08-30T23:12:46 <Kepplar> comedian ;)
2006-08-30T23:13:22 <birkenfeld> why? isn't that what you're most skilled at? drawing UML diagrams?
2006-08-30T23:13:41 <Kepplar> im far more vesitile :>
2006-08-30T23:13:46 <Kepplar> ver*
2006-08-30T23:13:51 <birkenfeld> sa*
2006-08-30T23:14:06 <Kepplar> birkenfeld: thats precisely the question I've been asking for 3 months an no one has been able to answer
2006-08-30T23:14:57 * birkenfeld looks around
2006-08-30T23:15:46 <xorAxAx> savesitile?
2006-08-30T23:16:17 <Kepplar> hmm?
2006-08-30T23:16:43 <birkenfeld> savestite?
2006-08-30T23:17:31 <xorAxAx> whats that?
2006-08-30T23:17:38 <birkenfeld> no idea
2006-08-30T23:17:43 <birkenfeld> ask your clown :)
2006-08-30T23:17:45 <xorAxAx> i just know transvestite
2006-08-30T23:18:07 <xorAxAx> but i am not sure if that fits the storage branch :)
2006-08-30T23:19:32 <birkenfeld> well, good night, happy UMLing
2006-08-30T23:20:08 <Kepplar> no sure what any of you meant there
2006-08-30T23:20:15 <Kepplar> birkenfeld: nn
2006-08-30T23:20:37 <xorAxAx> Kepplar: me neither, those words dont exist
2006-08-30T23:20:39 <xorAxAx> gn birkenfeld
2006-08-30T23:23:47 <Kepplar> xorAxAx: RC is the only "special" page
2006-08-30T23:23:50 <Kepplar> ?
2006-08-30T23:23:54 <xorAxAx> it is not special
2006-08-30T23:24:02 <xorAxAx> its rather short and typical
2006-08-30T23:24:13 <xorAxAx> it consists of a macro call only
2006-08-30T23:24:19 <Kepplar> ahhh
2006-08-30T23:24:26 <xorAxAx> (and some explanation)
2006-08-30T23:24:32 <xorAxAx> never peeked into the raw source?
2006-08-30T23:24:40 <xorAxAx> of the page
2006-08-30T23:24:46 <Kepplar> Page.py?
2006-08-30T23:24:54 <Kepplar> oh RC page
2006-08-30T23:24:55 <Kepplar> no
2006-08-30T23:30:59 <Kepplar> ok i updated the diagram
2006-08-30T23:31:18 <Kepplar> thats my bit, my knowedge after that is patchy
2006-08-30T23:32:57 <Kepplar> yay
2006-08-30T23:33:01 <Kepplar> i won a google tshirt
2006-08-30T23:34:20 <xorAxAx> where?
2006-08-30T23:35:45 <Kepplar> no not soc
2006-08-30T23:35:46 <Kepplar> :P
2006-08-30T23:36:26 <Kepplar> bah they've given me a coupon code to sort it outmyself
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