MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2006-09-07

2006-09-07T00:00:07  <Kepplar> anyone around?
2006-09-07T00:00:08  <Kepplar> O_o
2006-09-07T00:11:16  <xorAxAx> no
2006-09-07T00:16:51  <Kepplar> I'm tempted to sometime this year do a talk/workshop with my compsoc regarding moin =)
2006-09-07T00:17:18  <Kepplar> what do you think?
2006-09-07T00:17:35  <xorAxAx> if i was at your uni, i would not join it :-)
2006-09-07T00:17:53  <Kepplar> compsoc or the talk?
2006-09-07T00:22:01  <xorAxAx> the talk :)
2006-09-07T00:22:08  <xorAxAx> i dont know your institute
2006-09-07T00:22:24  <Kepplar> ah
2006-09-07T00:22:28  <Kepplar> well this would be semi-dev
2006-09-07T00:22:47  <Kepplar> or
2006-09-07T00:22:55  <Kepplar> maybe we can get funding to pay for you to come over here =)
2006-09-07T00:22:58  <Kepplar> compsoc does that lol
2006-09-07T00:23:10  <Kepplar> you'll get a free meal too its policy
2006-09-07T00:24:05  <xorAxAx> that sounds better
2006-09-07T00:24:16  <xorAxAx> ;-)
2006-09-07T00:25:02  <Kepplar> our compsoc is cool
2006-09-07T00:25:13  <Kepplar> the elected committee are powerless, they just do admin work basically
2006-09-07T00:25:15  <Kepplar> heh
2006-09-07T00:25:26  <Kepplar> the control is held by the unelected officers :)
2006-09-07T00:25:32  <Kepplar> (which I am one of)
2006-09-07T00:25:37  <Kepplar> who have executive =)
2006-09-07T00:28:20  <xorAxAx> the poor students
2006-09-07T00:39:32  <Kepplar> i don't throw my weight =)
2006-09-07T00:39:40  <Kepplar> you get disliked quickly if you do that
2006-09-07T00:39:59  <Kepplar> i just snipe and pull strings and get people onside subtly ;)
2006-09-07T00:40:54  * ThomasWaldmann threw his weight into bed 10 minutes ago.
2006-09-07T00:41:15  <Kepplar> tmi
2006-09-07T11:42:26  <xorAxAx> "I would say it will take at least another month to get
2006-09-07T11:42:26  <xorAxAx> the shirts and certificates made and then sent out. "
2006-09-07T11:42:55  <Kepplar> hmm?
2006-09-07T11:42:58  <Kepplar> wheres that from?
2006-09-07T11:45:05  <xorAxAx> the mailinglist that you are supposed to read
2006-09-07T16:42:52  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: you forgot to fix up SPG after moving the help page
2006-09-07T16:43:03  <xorAxAx> fpletz: you too
2006-09-07T16:46:47  <ThomasWaldmann> moving what?
2006-09-07T16:47:28  <xorAxAx> HelpOnRecoverFoobar
2006-09-07T17:31:14  <xorAxAx> *sigh*
2006-09-07T17:38:19  <ThomasWaldmann> i didnt move it, i just edited it
2006-09-07T17:43:22  <xorAxAx> ok
2006-09-07T17:43:31  <xorAxAx> you know, the edit history usually vanishes
2006-09-07T17:43:38  <xorAxAx> on the move to underlay operation
2006-09-07T17:43:48  <xorAxAx> yay for sane underlay semantics
2006-09-07T17:47:55  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnRecoveringLostEdits?action=info maybe just look
2006-09-07T18:06:08  <xorAxAx> thats not the page history, ThomasWaldmann
2006-09-07T18:06:18  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: the page has at least 5 revisions
2006-09-07T18:06:27  <xorAxAx> spread in moinmoin data dir and moinmaster data dir
2006-09-07T18:06:43  <xorAxAx> and the former are not visible without fs access
2006-09-07T18:06:54  <xorAxAx> (thats a known design issue)
2006-09-07T18:07:01  <xorAxAx> it even tricked you a few times
2006-09-07T18:08:03  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, but you nevertheless can see there who first edited it before yelling
2006-09-07T18:08:54  <xorAxAx> sure
2006-09-07T18:40:32  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, I dislike stuff like "not nomagic" slightly
2006-09-07T18:41:14  <ThomasWaldmann> you could also use "nonomagic" :))
2006-09-07T18:41:28  <ThomasWaldmann> or even "magic"
2006-09-07T19:11:44  <xorAxAx> magic is the default mode currently
2006-09-07T19:12:15  <xorAxAx> and the not can be removed by rewriting the boolean expression
2006-09-07T19:56:31  <ThomasWaldmann> integration of creole?
2006-09-07T19:57:08  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess that's rather 2.0 than 1.6
2006-09-07T20:05:50  <xorAxAx> why?
2006-09-07T20:06:00  <xorAxAx> we just ship the parser
2006-09-07T20:06:12  <xorAxAx> its better than rst support had been for years
2006-09-07T20:06:46  <xorAxAx> i dont think that this "mix creole and your markup" idea makes sense for moin
2006-09-07T20:06:55  <xorAxAx> at least not currently
2006-09-07T20:07:52  <ThomasWaldmann> creole is far from usable
2006-09-07T20:08:04  <ThomasWaldmann> even the spec is like that
2006-09-07T20:08:45  <xorAxAx> ?
2006-09-07T20:08:49  <xorAxAx> why is it far from usable?
2006-09-07T20:21:33  <ThomasWaldmann> underspecified?
2006-09-07T20:21:38  <ThomasWaldmann> underpowered?
2006-09-07T20:21:47  <ThomasWaldmann> too fresh?
2006-09-07T20:23:15  <xorAxAx> moin is scheduled for the end of the year - it wont be fresh then
2006-09-07T20:23:27  <xorAxAx> OLPC, wikipedia et al. will adopt it
2006-09-07T20:23:45  <xorAxAx> radomir is in the working group
2006-09-07T20:27:26  <ThomasWaldmann> "ungelegte eier" :)
2006-09-07T21:46:03  <Kepplar> Hi
2006-09-07T21:46:04  <Kepplar> Ok
2006-09-07T21:46:31  <Kepplar> arch diagram will come this weekend because im reinstalling this box and quite frankly I have nothing better to do while compiling things
2006-09-07T21:46:43  <Kepplar> But its going to be about..2% complete because i dont understand the rest :)
2006-09-07T21:53:13  <ThomasWaldmann> gentoo? :)
2006-09-07T21:53:55  <Kepplar> maybe ;)
2006-09-07T21:53:55  <ThomasWaldmann> Kepplar: if nobody is telling to complete that stuff, maybe use that time for something making more sense
2006-09-07T21:54:10  <ThomasWaldmann> a 2% diagram will get us nowhere
2006-09-07T21:54:37  <Kepplar> Well I dont understand old-arch outsite Page/PageEditor/PGE and its somehow linked to request and caching
2006-09-07T21:57:35  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, do we have a diagram for the result of your soc work?
2006-09-07T21:58:52  <ThomasWaldmann> and btw, you didnt clean up your names
2006-09-07T21:59:42  <ThomasWaldmann> (I expected that somehow btw, because using the last week for such stuff never works)
2006-09-07T22:01:18  <Kepplar> what do you mean diagram/
2006-09-07T22:01:22  <Kepplar> branch diagram?
2006-09-07T22:01:40  <Kepplar> Yeah i didnt clean any of the code up but you knew that - you said just get it working =P
2006-09-07T22:06:35  <ThomasWaldmann> yes. but if you are bored now ...
2006-09-07T22:06:53  <Kepplar> oh sure
2006-09-07T22:07:10  <Kepplar> I just been busy with forms up until now :)
2006-09-07T22:07:29  <Kepplar> plus ive now running my own hg rep which i will sync up to thinkmo