MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-01-10

2007-01-10T10:50:50  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: the discussion and experimentation about best solution for comment pages was not yet completed
2007-01-10T10:51:21  <ThomasWaldmann> esp. the i18n issues or whether we just use sistepages
2007-01-10T10:54:59  <dreimark> oh, there was no additional comment on that page and I asked some days before about that and you told me first the : wikiname thing must be changed back
2007-01-10T10:56:08  <dreimark> This feature is usefull for DE too and that does not have a sisterpage or DE needs DE²
2007-01-10T10:56:39  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, WikiName: alone does too many false positives
2007-01-10T10:56:49  <dreimark> so it needs to be configurable
2007-01-10T10:57:04  <ThomasWaldmann> I have to look for some other syntax, like WikiName:$pagename or whatever
2007-01-10T10:57:45  <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is that configuration is not enough for multi language wikis
2007-01-10T10:58:17  <ThomasWaldmann> the linktext "Discussion" on the UI could be translated by i18n, no problem,
2007-01-10T10:58:54  <ThomasWaldmann> but what about the target page? It would stay "Discussion", even if the wiki people don't speak english at all.
2007-01-10T10:59:53  <ThomasWaldmann> pagelist would have potentially lots of /Discussion entries btw.
2007-01-10T11:01:54  <dreimark> that linktext english name is similiar showing #preview or action= (That does not mean I do want them translated)
2007-01-10T11:05:25  <xorAxAx> IMHO configurable syntax is not a good choice
2007-01-10T11:06:38  <dreimark> with that pagelist it's may be wanted because if you have enabled this feature only on few pages
2007-01-10T11:06:58  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: not quite, action= and #preview is only technical stuff, the user can ignore it. But /Discussion would also get used as content (or generated as content on TitelIndex)
2007-01-10T11:07:33  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: configurable syntax?
2007-01-10T11:07:43  <xorAxAx> 10:56:49 < dreimark> so it needs to be configurable
2007-01-10T11:08:22  <ThomasWaldmann> I am just searching for a better idea... WikiName:. also came to my mind.
2007-01-10T11:08:27  <dreimark> if I would have a multilin wiki I would enter that name for example as Discussion(Diskussion) or something like this
2007-01-10T11:09:20  <dreimark> xorAxAx:pagelist configurable?
2007-01-10T11:13:30  <dreimark> xorAxAx:ah (I should read the time), DE will not have a SisterPage if SisterPage is the only way it could not be used in DE
2007-01-10T11:28:51  <dreimark> and you may want to configure which sisterwiki should be used
2007-01-10T11:41:14  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i doubt you need discussion with yourself in DesktopEdition :)
2007-01-10T13:24:33  <xorAxAx> dreimark: how is this related to DE?
2007-01-10T13:36:35  <dreimark> xorAxAx:you can now sync a wiki to DE with all it's pages. you can alter these pages on DE and could sync them to the other wiki
2007-01-10T13:38:55  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:if you take a copy of a wiki with you you may want to have a complete copy with all pages
2007-01-10T13:39:28  <xorAxAx> dreimark: yes, syncing is just one issue, migration and copying is another
2007-01-10T13:40:10  <dreimark> Sisterpages will need same acl configuration and same users on master and sisterwiki
2007-01-10T13:40:56  <dreimark> that's a another problem I do see momentanly with sisterwiki's
2007-01-10T14:11:20  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: user_dir (and farmconfig) exists, but true, sync gets more complicated
2007-01-10T14:13:04  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: As with other things I do think the wikiadmin should have the possibility to choose how this discussion page is added
2007-01-10T14:13:55  <ThomasWaldmann> as with other things, I do think generic features solving special requests are better than special features :)
2007-01-10T14:14:33  <ThomasWaldmann> but we'll see whether it can be done with sisterpages
2007-01-10T14:14:46  <ThomasWaldmann> I am open to ideas how to solve the i18n problem.
2007-01-10T14:16:40  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
2007-01-10T14:16:45  <dreimark> bbl2
2007-01-10T17:24:00  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2007-01-10T21:26:58  <dreimark> I got some ideas how that i18 trouble could be solved for that discaussion page
2007-01-10T21:27:22  <dreimark> It could be called now with MyExample?action=supplementation
2007-01-10T21:28:28  <dreimark> the action checks if that page exists, if not it shows a link similiar MyPages did "Create New Supplementation Page"
2007-01-10T21:29:17  <dreimark> this calls an other action MyExample?action=editsupplementation
2007-01-10T21:29:57  <dreimark> with that the discussion page could be created
2007-01-10T21:32:46  <dreimark> if that page exists and you are on MyPages with Discussion  that page is loaded the discussion page is shown
2007-01-10T21:34:02  <dreimark> and edit shows MyExample/?action=editsupplementation
2007-01-10T21:36:44  <dreimark> so the supplementation page name could be surpressed from the url
2007-01-10T21:37:45  <dreimark> that needs changes in: theme/__init__.py, supplementation.py, a new editsupplementation and changes in edit
2007-01-10T21:38:42  <dreimark> the changes in edit aren't finished yet
2007-01-10T21:40:28  <dreimark> additional things to do it must be hidden from pagelist too, and renaming the base page should rename the discussion page too
2007-01-10T21:44:51  <dreimark> that link  "Create New Supplementation Page" is not necessary, I can go directly to edit
2007-01-10T22:01:55  <dreimark> FeatureRequests/DiscussionAndOrCommentPages