2007-05-01T00:28:31 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: no, will follow :)
2007-05-01T09:19:32 <CIA-10> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 2034:b85e5f7fc3f2 1.7/wiki/htdocs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): revert the adding of span.anchor { display: none; } by changeset: 1685:8078e7b39a2b
2007-05-01T09:48:53 <Fabi> moin
2007-05-01T10:10:53 <flowhase> moin
2007-05-01T10:52:22 <dreimark> moin
2007-05-01T11:16:07 <flowhase> so now ... on my way
2007-05-01T11:31:43 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-05-01T12:01:29 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: if you really want to annoy the sp*mmers, you have to put the patterns onto master wiki BadContent page
2007-05-01T12:02:48 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:good idea :)
2007-05-01T12:03:19 <ThomasWaldmann> but please see the changes to the patterns I did when moving them there
2007-05-01T12:04:14 <dreimark> the \ is important
2007-05-01T12:04:16 <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. that e-gold idiot used lots of different vhosts
2007-05-01T12:04:54 <ThomasWaldmann> but the main domain he used is empty and not useful, so one can just ban that
2007-05-01T12:05:31 <dreimark> you should add me to that page MoinCoreTeamGroup too, because then its easier for me to explain my position in your team
2007-05-01T12:06:13 <dreimark> ;)
2007-05-01T12:06:36 <ThomasWaldmann> sure, explain to whom?
2007-05-01T12:07:57 <dreimark> as I was at pycolgne they wanted to know what my position is, and I explained all the thing i did and mostly used the words on top of that page
2007-05-01T12:08:49 <dreimark> so I am more as a fan only
2007-05-01T12:08:56 <xorAxAx> :-)
2007-05-01T12:15:18 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, I wondered how that is spam related
2007-05-01T12:15:32 <dreimark> hehe
2007-05-01T12:16:13 <ThomasWaldmann> now you still have to change your irc cloak
2007-05-01T12:16:33 <xorAxAx> i can do that
2007-05-01T12:16:45 <dreimark> xorAxAx: thanks
2007-05-01T12:17:07 <xorAxAx> currently no staff members online
2007-05-01T12:17:21 <dreimark> that one KaloyanEnimanev is again active on MM
2007-05-01T12:21:08 <ThomasWaldmann> we can delete those later :)
2007-05-01T12:24:49 <ThomasWaldmann> " Lone Programmer Writes 352 Webcam Drivers For Linux " (from /.)
2007-05-01T12:26:58 <dreimark> http://nsaunders.wordpress.com/2007/05/01/heroes-of-open-source/
2007-05-01T13:05:44 <xorAxAx> dreimark: done
2007-05-01T13:26:24 <dreimark> :)
2007-05-01T16:17:47 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: t.www.de CommentsAsCollapseableDivs the green comment is blue
2007-05-01T16:22:21 <ThomasWaldmann> johill: I'll also add some comment to please not remove the credits :)
2007-05-01T16:22:56 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: oops?
2007-05-01T16:24:05 <johill> heh
2007-05-01T16:24:32 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: This is a green comment. but its background is blue
2007-05-01T16:24:40 <ThomasWaldmann> i am sure it was green some time before
2007-05-01T16:24:56 <dreimark> I am sure too
2007-05-01T16:28:16 <dreimark> perhaps we should have the posibility to switch it for preview on or have it switched on
2007-05-01T16:31:14 <dreimark> the red dashed comment has a blue background too
2007-05-01T16:35:28 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess the color class has to be last, let me try...
2007-05-01T16:38:04 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, nope
2007-05-01T16:38:21 <ThomasWaldmann> does the order in the css file determine what's chosen?
2007-05-01T16:38:58 <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is that .comment also has background-color (blueishgrey)
2007-05-01T16:41:42 <dreimark> looks like this overwrites the choosen color
2007-05-01T17:01:56 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: there is another problem with changing preferences of "Show comment sections"
2007-05-01T17:02:00 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i moved the .comment class css to the top of the .colors css definitions in the css file
2007-05-01T17:02:57 <dreimark> seems the comment stays cached
2007-05-01T17:07:08 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the cache is broken for users which likes to see comment enabled always and those who likes to see it only by clicking on the comment link
2007-05-01T17:10:14 <dreimark> if i am looking with two users on the same page where the preferences comment switch is used different both got the same cached page
2007-05-01T17:11:36 <dreimark> always comments or always no comments
2007-05-01T17:11:51 <ThomasWaldmann> toggling comments is done by js
2007-05-01T17:14:08 <dreimark> may be we should have then better only one default for starting with that for the whole wiki ?
2007-05-01T17:14:38 <dreimark> and not user dependent for now
2007-05-01T17:19:18 <dreimark> or the cache needs to be excluded for those pages using comments
2007-05-01T17:19:20 <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is that e.g. _remark_repl puts in a display:none or display:'' there
2007-05-01T17:19:55 <ThomasWaldmann> (and that stuff gets cached, as usual)
2007-05-01T17:22:45 <dreimark> another solution perhaps is to add a js function into the html part checking a var which is toggled from the comment js
2007-05-01T17:27:35 <ThomasWaldmann> the problem is that wont work if somebody has no js
2007-05-01T17:29:59 <dreimark> can we exclude a page from page cache if comments are used
2007-05-01T17:37:43 <lanius> hi
2007-05-01T17:43:58 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: no. the code depending on request.user has to move to the formatter. and the text_python formatter has to generate a dynamic call.
2007-05-01T17:44:22 <ThomasWaldmann> moin lanius
2007-05-01T17:45:50 <dreimark> bbl
2007-05-01T18:48:23 <neagulm> hello
2007-05-01T18:53:17 <ThomasWaldmann> moin neagulm
2007-05-01T19:11:03 <dreimark> bb
2007-05-01T19:11:03 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: fixed :)
2007-05-01T19:11:14 <dreimark> :):)
2007-05-01T19:11:37 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe do another test to make sure ;)
2007-05-01T19:11:52 <dreimark> ok
2007-05-01T19:12:30 <dreimark> xorAxAx: is ther ealready a description on MoinMaster how this hirarchicaly stuff should behave
2007-05-01T19:12:38 <dreimark> moin neagulm
2007-05-01T19:12:48 <neagulm> hello, dreimark
2007-05-01T19:13:02 <neagulm> I am reading your comments
2007-05-01T19:13:32 <dreimark> I thought its better to use the wiki as irc or skype
2007-05-01T19:13:37 <neagulm> dreimark, last 2 days i was a little busy and could not join #moin-dev
2007-05-01T19:14:02 <dreimark> thats ok, I was swimming in the northsea on sunday
2007-05-01T19:14:19 <dreimark> it was a bit cold but funny too, swimming there in april
2007-05-01T19:15:02 <neagulm> dreimark, :)
2007-05-01T19:15:31 <neagulm> dreimark, in the following days I will push another PoC, extended and modular
2007-05-01T19:15:56 <dreimark> :)
2007-05-01T19:16:43 <neagulm> dreimark, currently i thinking in not modifying Page but use some type of decorator (or proxy)
2007-05-01T19:17:41 <neagulm> dreimark, I will update the page in a few moments with the new idea :)
2007-05-01T19:17:52 <dreimark> decorator is 2.5 or isn't it
2007-05-01T19:18:47 <dreimark> xorAxAx: I have currently no issue but I like to test it
2007-05-01T19:22:11 <dreimark> * dreimark thinks about how long a moment is
2007-05-01T19:24:41 <neagulm> dreimark, 15-20 minutes
2007-05-01T19:24:48 <dreimark> ok :)
2007-05-01T19:27:10 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the MM Logo is surrounded by a border now
2007-05-01T19:28:23 <ThomasWaldmann> where?
2007-05-01T19:29:01 <dreimark> at my testwiki, I kill first all caches, I guess its that
2007-05-01T19:30:50 <xorAxAx> dreimark: see the docstrings in my patch
2007-05-01T19:31:01 <xorAxAx> dreimark: did you document the packageinstaller methodes?
2007-05-01T19:31:11 <dreimark> xorAxAx: I did :)
2007-05-01T19:31:28 <xorAxAx> cool :)
2007-05-01T19:33:48 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I guess its my mistake classic is ok
2007-05-01T19:35:56 <dreimark> definitly my failure, modern is ok now too
2007-05-01T19:40:16 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the color issue is fixed but not the cache
2007-05-01T19:41:07 <ThomasWaldmann> it worked for me. how can I reproduce wrong behaviour?
2007-05-01T19:41:23 <dreimark> create two user
2007-05-01T19:41:34 <dreimark> test1 has see comments
2007-05-01T19:41:54 <dreimark> test2 has to click to see comments
2007-05-01T19:42:31 * ThomasWaldmann tested with user1 see comments, anon user doesnt see comments
2007-05-01T19:42:44 <dreimark> then go with test1 on a page
2007-05-01T19:43:09 <dreimark> and switch then with su to test2
2007-05-01T19:43:28 <dreimark> or logout and login as test2
2007-05-01T19:43:35 <dreimark> the comments are there
2007-05-01T19:43:58 <ThomasWaldmann> did you clear the moin cache before testing?
2007-05-01T19:44:30 <dreimark> by hand may be inclomplete I do use now the maint command
2007-05-01T19:44:46 <neagulm> dreimark, i have posted a idea
2007-05-01T19:45:03 <neagulm> dreimark, it took so long because i had to test the code :)
2007-05-01T19:45:10 <dreimark> I have to check first another thing
2007-05-01T19:45:24 <neagulm> dreimark, brb ~10 minutes
2007-05-01T19:45:28 <dreimark> fine
2007-05-01T19:45:31 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: oh, you didnt test on t.www.de? then you need to hg pull before...
2007-05-01T19:45:47 <dreimark> i have pulled
2007-05-01T19:46:43 <neagulm> dreimark, i have posted on the wiki page :)
2007-05-01T19:57:14 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it does work on t.www.de
2007-05-01T19:57:56 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: and it does not for your local wiki after removing text_html cache file?
2007-05-01T19:59:08 <dreimark> i did now hg revert and again maint cleancache, currently testing
2007-05-01T20:01:37 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: seems not to work with standalone
2007-05-01T20:03:48 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it looks like in standalone comments are always on
2007-05-01T20:03:54 <dreimark> for anon users
2007-05-01T20:07:33 <dreimark> standalone tells brokenpipe may be that makes the difference
2007-05-01T20:08:56 <dreimark> server restarted
2007-05-01T20:10:30 <dreimark> no broken pipe and it behaves the same anon user sees the comments
2007-05-01T20:11:27 <dreimark> and a user who has disabled seeing comment does see them too
2007-05-01T20:13:55 <ThomasWaldmann> sounds strange :) I'll do some local tests...
2007-05-01T20:26:30 <dreimark> neagulm: I do read PoCv2
2007-05-01T20:27:36 <neagulm> dreimark, currently i'm writing some code to test the proposal...
2007-05-01T20:28:05 <dreimark> fine, I like working tested code
2007-05-01T20:28:34 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: is it ok that current 1.6dev shows me the su functionality without being logged in (when testing with /moin.py)?
2007-05-01T20:36:02 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: /* inline comment spans */ do work correctly for you, too, right?
2007-05-01T20:38:03 <dreimark> looks
2007-05-01T20:39:35 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yeah they are ok
2007-05-01T20:40:52 <dreimark> #!wiki dotted/comment/red doesn't
2007-05-01T20:43:03 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, found it
2007-05-01T20:43:20 <ThomasWaldmann> the wiki parser's Dependencies were wrong
2007-05-01T20:48:16 <dreimark> why does it behave different on standalone?
2007-05-01T20:50:40 <ThomasWaldmann> good question :)
2007-05-01T20:51:38 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: well, thats a bug, why do you ask me? :)
2007-05-01T20:53:53 <ThomasWaldmann> i just asked myself if it is a MMDE feature or a acl bug :)
2007-05-01T20:55:02 <dreimark> I thought its a MMDE feature, because only for personal use
2007-05-01T20:55:58 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: well, my last MMDE doesnt have it
2007-05-01T20:56:01 <xorAxAx> so its a bug
2007-05-01T21:00:10 <ThomasWaldmann> but it goes away with DesktopEdition = False
2007-05-01T21:01:11 <xorAxAx> well, you introduced the setting and reimar introduced this odd behaviour :-)
2007-05-01T21:01:14 <xorAxAx> and i dislike it :-)
2007-05-01T21:02:30 <dreimark> xorAxAx: what odd behaviour?
2007-05-01T21:02:48 <xorAxAx> that you see a su box without being logged in
2007-05-01T21:03:51 <dreimark> no I thought this is a feature which is wanted but if I look around there are some people using DE for more as only personal
2007-05-01T21:04:08 <dreimark> so I think its a bug too
2007-05-01T21:04:23 <dreimark> it happens in user.py if request.cfg.DesktopEdition and request.remote_addr == '127.0.0.1':
2007-05-01T21:04:47 <dreimark> isSuperUser
2007-05-01T21:05:07 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, with localhost only it could again count as feature :-P
2007-05-01T21:06:07 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, maybe not on shared machines
2007-05-01T21:12:18 <dreimark> in 1.5.x it was superusers = self._request.cfg.superuser
2007-05-01T21:13:25 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i merged the mmde code after 1.5
2007-05-01T21:14:29 <dreimark> Install Languages via SystemPagesSetup needs superuser privs
2007-05-01T21:16:04 <xorAxAx> well, MMDE gives SU rights for every local user
2007-05-01T21:16:10 <xorAxAx> but only after they are logged in
2007-05-01T21:18:03 <dreimark> and request.user.valid ?
2007-05-01T21:18:38 <xorAxAx> hmm?
2007-05-01T21:20:48 <dreimark> if request.cfg.DesktopEdition and request.remote_addr == '127.0.0.1' and request.user.valid:
2007-05-01T21:21:41 <CIA-10> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> * 2038:4e64f7973c32 1.6/MoinMoin/parser/text_moin_wiki.py: wiki comment divs: fix caching behaviour
2007-05-01T21:23:31 <xorAxAx> dreimark: yeah
2007-05-01T21:23:39 <xorAxAx> dreimark: maybe check how it was in 15
2007-05-01T21:23:43 <xorAxAx> 1.5
2007-05-01T21:35:50 <dreimark> xorAxAx: I am not sure if the check for localhost only is really secure because of tunnels
2007-05-01T21:36:15 <xorAxAx> dreimark: well, thats by design and thomas added large warnings to the file
2007-05-01T21:40:15 <CIA-10> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 2039:0d276311df54 1.6/MoinMoin/user.py: user: fixed for MMDE superuser mode for logged in users only
2007-05-01T21:41:35 <CIA-10> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> * 2035:a7fb50fd67f6 1.7/MoinMoin/user.py: user: fixed for MMDE superuser mode for logged in users only
2007-05-01T21:42:01 <dreimark> fpletz: are there news from xapian search?
2007-05-01T22:01:49 <dreimark> xorAxAx: do you have an idea what happens here MoinMoinBugs/1.6devStrangeACLbehaviour
2007-05-01T22:05:38 <neagulm> dreimark, i have to leave, see you tomorrow
2007-05-01T22:05:53 <dreimark> neagulm: ok, gn
2007-05-01T22:10:09 <xorAxAx> dreimark: looks like a bug in the acl caching
2007-05-01T22:33:45 <dreimark> good night
2007-05-01T22:39:57 <xorAxAx> gn dreimark MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-05-01 (last edited 2007-10-29 19:16:12 by localhost)
