MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-09-13

2007-09-13T00:07:31  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2007-09-13T08:05:30  <grzywacz> hi
2007-09-13T08:46:29  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-09-13T10:41:16  <CIA-27> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> * 3061:224372bf30d9 1.7-storage-hwendel/ (4 files in 4 dirs): new moin17 item backend (unfinished, some tests broken)
2007-09-13T10:45:03  <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: see above
2007-09-13T10:45:54  <dreimark> moin
2007-09-13T10:46:37  <dreimark> our moin command should be able to refresh the spell checker dictionary
2007-09-13T10:49:53  <ThomasWaldmann> moin dreimark
2007-09-13T10:50:02  <ThomasWaldmann> test_getval is still failing
2007-09-13T10:50:47  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the test using or testing events are borked
2007-09-13T10:51:10  <dreimark> that's tst_events and test_PageEditor
2007-09-13T10:52:59  <ThomasWaldmann> why did you do a commit then with "test_getval fixed"?
2007-09-13T10:53:44  <dreimark> because there was a bug in this test too
2007-09-13T10:54:17  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: request.cfg.event_handlers = [event_handler]
2007-09-13T10:54:47  <dreimark> without setting the old event_handler makes trouble
2007-09-13T10:55:18  <dreimark> before I did the fix to get_val it was not going well wit test_Page too
2007-09-13T10:56:05  <dreimark> But now it goes well with all other tests beside the ones which changes the request.cfg.event_handlers
2007-09-13T10:56:47  <dreimark> xorAxAx: thoughts too that this is not right to change the state without resetting
2007-09-13T10:58:24  <ThomasWaldmann> and did you find out what event handlers have to do with your test?
2007-09-13T11:00:50  <xorAxAx> dreimark: i said that already
2007-09-13T11:01:16  <xorAxAx> (that they need to be reset)
2007-09-13T11:03:12  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: xorAxAx: So test_PageEditor and test_events are broken and needs to be fixed by resetting the event_handler
2007-09-13T11:03:30  <dreimark> but as ThomasWaldmann asked I just wanted to know too why it has this effect
2007-09-13T11:04:14  <dreimark> We need to change the order of running tests to find such bugs
2007-09-13T11:06:44  <xorAxAx> dreimark: have a look at the event handler that gets registered :)
2007-09-13T11:09:39  <dreimark> ok, will do this later, I do have currently some office work. (setting up a wiki for that Karlsruhe project, and some new plugins for 1.5.8)
2007-09-13T11:10:57  <dreimark> 8 )
2007-09-13T12:31:01  <ThomasWaldmann> http://plope.com/Members/chrism/now_not_to_write_python
2007-09-13T12:31:41  <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: I had to do point 6 of that list in storage code
2007-09-13T12:38:39  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: ?
2007-09-13T12:38:48  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: moin uses compound exceptipons
2007-09-13T12:39:01  <ThomasWaldmann> commenting out except Exception:
2007-09-13T12:39:23  <xorAxAx> except Exception is bad, though
2007-09-13T17:09:13  <johill> ser: I almost got it working with mod-magent
2007-09-13T17:09:16  <johill> magnet event
2007-09-13T17:09:36  <johill> ser: however, it won't work as physical-attract and has bugs as uri-attract
2007-09-13T17:11:02  <johill> so until 1.5 is out I won't try again
2007-09-13T17:11:09  <johill> but other than that it works well
2007-09-13T17:11:38  <johill> ser: oh and just restricting global directives is no good, the user could configure a magnet script and have an infinite loop in it
2007-09-13T17:21:39  <johill> hm. this could be interesting
2007-09-13T17:21:39  <johill> http://www.sitepoint.com/blogs/2007/04/10/faster-page-loads-bundle-your-css-and-javascript/
2007-09-13T17:29:43  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: isn't that rather pointless if you can set a long lifetime for those files, so that browsers cache them for a long time?
2007-09-13T17:35:27  <ThomasWaldmann> (btw, that was the main reason for putting the version number into url_prefix_static = '/moin_static160' )
2007-09-13T17:44:26  <dreimark> OMG
2007-09-13T17:44:45  <dreimark> currently we have tests that works because others change the state
2007-09-13T17:45:15  <dreimark> but that's some kind of philosophy.
2007-09-13T17:45:19  <xorAxAx> :)
2007-09-13T17:45:28  <xorAxAx> thats test teamwork
2007-09-13T17:45:40  * starshine peeks in
2007-09-13T17:45:45  <dreimark> should request be resetted too ?
2007-09-13T17:45:56  <starshine> speaking of teamwork I'm back from my conference now.
2007-09-13T17:46:57  <ThomasWaldmann> wb starshine :)
2007-09-13T17:50:34  <dreimark> btw. how can I overwrite def handler again in TestSave of test_PageEditor
2007-09-13T17:50:44  <xorAxAx> ???
2007-09-13T17:51:05  <lanius> ThomasWaldmann: point 6?
2007-09-13T17:51:33  <ThomasWaldmann> the one about catching exceptions
2007-09-13T17:53:00  <lanius> sorry, don't understand yete
2007-09-13T17:53:49  <ThomasWaldmann> from the "do not" list: "    * Hide real exceptions and raise your own that lose information in library code. I'm glad you thought about that case, but now I just need to comment out your except clause to figure out what the real problem is.
2007-09-13T17:53:53  <ThomasWaldmann> "
2007-09-13T17:58:17  <dreimark> xorAxAx: Abort("This is just a test") how can I change that back to its defaut
2007-09-13T17:58:24  <dreimark> hi neagulm
2007-09-13T17:58:28  <neagulm> moin to all
2007-09-13T17:58:41  <dreimark> neagulm: how was your trip?
2007-09-13T17:58:47  * neagulm is back from holidays
2007-09-13T17:58:57  <neagulm> dreimark, very nice :D
2007-09-13T17:59:36  <dreimark> neagulm: so you are now full of energy ?
2007-09-13T17:59:48  <xorAxAx> dreimark: well, store the previous value into a local and restore it in the finally branch
2007-09-13T18:00:10  <neagulm> dreimark, I have one more week ahead. I'm going tomorrow with my girlfriend to the mountains, I want to see some snow.
2007-09-13T18:00:20  <neagulm> dreimark, and after that I will be like new. :)
2007-09-13T18:00:33  <dreimark> :)
2007-09-13T18:01:22  <dreimark> neagulm: Do you have a wiki yourselfs about the categorisation project?
2007-09-13T18:02:53  <neagulm> dreimark, no but I will use mm.www.de for documentation. But probably I won't work almost nothing until after my vacation
2007-09-13T18:04:11  <dreimark> neagulm: ok
2007-09-13T18:04:17  <neagulm> i hope that this is not a too big problem...
2007-09-13T18:04:46  <lanius> ThomasWaldmann: please give a point to the code
2007-09-13T18:05:30  <dreimark> neagulm: we just wanted to know so ThomasWaldmann don't do double work if he setups a testwiki
2007-09-13T18:06:36  <neagulm> dreimark, a test wiki will be on mmtest.info.uvt.ro or on mmclassification.ieat.ro. I will set them up after 21 September
2007-09-13T18:06:45  <neagulm> dreimark, this brings me to a question
2007-09-13T18:07:46  <dreimark> neagulm: ok, that's early enough for us, we have still something to do
2007-09-13T18:07:48  <dreimark> :)
2007-09-13T18:08:27  <neagulm> dreimark, does the MoinMoin project require some hosting services ? I had a talk with the Dean from my Faculty and he said that we can help in this direction
2007-09-13T18:09:36  <neagulm> dreimark, eventually hosting for the test wikis or a mirror, etc ? I can setup a fbsd jail on an IBM x3500 after my vacation if we require it...
2007-09-13T18:10:42  <dreimark> neagulm: I don't think so ThomasWaldmann likes them hosting on his company, and he likes editing on servers :)
2007-09-13T18:10:49  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ping
2007-09-13T18:13:34  <CIA-27> moin: Heinrich Wendel <h_wendel@cojobo.net> * 3062:3975f304ca80 1.7-storage-hwendel/MoinMoin/storage/ (5 files in 2 dirs): update some comments
2007-09-13T18:14:16  <dreimark> neagulm: please talk about that with ThomasWaldmann
2007-09-13T18:15:15  <neagulm> dreimark, ok
2007-09-13T18:18:05  <neagulm> I need to leave... I have to prepare for leaving tomorrow. bbl
2007-09-13T18:18:43  <dreimark> neagulm: have nice holiday
2007-09-13T18:19:26  <dreimark> neagulm: vacation
2007-09-13T18:19:29  <dreimark> :)
2007-09-13T18:21:35  <ThomasWaldmann> lanius: search for except Exception
2007-09-13T18:23:15  <lanius> yeah, but because of the CompositeException this should workl
2007-09-13T18:23:57  <ThomasWaldmann> neagulm: it would be nice if you could setup a test wiki (where you have good access). otherwise, for moin, we have hosting on an own server.
2007-09-13T18:25:01  <xorAxAx> lanius: yeah, it works fine
2007-09-13T18:38:31  <lanius> how can i checkout a specified tag?
2007-09-13T18:38:43  <dreimark> have to leave too, bbl
2007-09-13T18:41:49  <xorAxAx> lanius: hg up tagname i presume
2007-09-13T18:42:13  <xorAxAx> or hg up -r tagname
2007-09-13T21:06:32  <xorAxAx> " This year, the program brought together over 900 students and nearly 1500 mentors in 90 countries to create code for over 130 open source projects"
2007-09-13T21:06:40  <xorAxAx> how is this possible? more mentors than students?
2007-09-13T21:07:24  <starshine> some projects have more than one mentor per student?
2007-09-13T21:07:42  <starshine> or listed mentors-with-projects that no student signed up for?
2007-09-13T21:12:41  <xorAxAx> the latter case is more probable
2007-09-13T22:32:02  <neagulm> ThomasWaldmann, is it ok that I generate the diffs for google as follows:  hg export `hg log -M --template "#rev# " -k marian@info -r SOC2007-START:SOC2007-END`
2007-09-13T22:32:43  <xorAxAx> neagulm: did you see my command line on the wiki?
2007-09-13T22:32:48  <ThomasWaldmann> well, try it :)
2007-09-13T22:33:46  <neagulm> xorAxAx, The version from above is from GoogleSoc2006 :)
2007-09-13T22:34:34  <xorAxAx> ok
2007-09-13T23:16:43  <dreimark> bb
2007-09-13T23:35:15  <neagulm> good night all, be back tomorrow or in one week
2007-09-13T23:39:26  <ThomasWaldmann> gn neagulm
2007-09-13T23:59:14  <ThomasWaldmann> as nobody found bigger problems, I'll start the wiki parser backport tomorrow