MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-11-04

2007-11-04T00:00:49  <xorAxAx> TheSheep: i think one would need to define a html toolkit beforehand, with rules on which widgets etc. to place where
2007-11-04T00:01:17  <xorAxAx> so the style is really matching everything of the app
2007-11-04T00:01:29  <TheSheep> xorAxAx: hat's exactly wha I mean
2007-11-04T00:01:40  <TheSheep> xorAxAx: and I really think it should be part of the w3c spec
2007-11-04T00:01:41  <xorAxAx> do you want to start the working group? :)
2007-11-04T00:02:02  <TheSheep> xorAxAx: had enough with Creole, thank you
2007-11-04T00:02:09  <xorAxAx> now you could take some 100 innocent pupils and let them edit the oswd themes to match your spec :)
2007-11-04T00:02:34  <dreimark> hmm, is Help Contents not translated on MM to german?
2007-11-04T00:02:40  * TheSheep stabs xorAxAx repeatedly in the left eye
2007-11-04T00:03:11  <dreimark> Find Page seems not translated too
2007-11-04T00:05:07  <xorAxAx> dreimark: what do you mean by "we can find true python code"?
2007-11-04T00:05:10  <xorAxAx> what is false python code?
2007-11-04T00:05:32  <dreimark> no python code or some code which has C code inside
2007-11-04T00:05:47  <dreimark> 100% python
2007-11-04T00:05:49  <TheSheep> java translaed directly t python
2007-11-04T00:06:00  <xorAxAx> ah
2007-11-04T00:06:07  <dreimark> did one tried switching lang on MM ?
2007-11-04T00:06:18  <xorAxAx> well, there is no free pdf reading lib for python
2007-11-04T00:06:23  <TheSheep> with those   class FooBarable: pass
2007-11-04T00:08:27  <starshine> TheSheep: like "css zen garden" ??
2007-11-04T00:09:01  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: see the top of that page. RD when you start working on them, D when you are done
2007-11-04T00:09:21  <dreimark> xorAxAx: http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/511465
2007-11-04T00:10:58  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: only moinmaster is relevant
2007-11-04T00:11:04  <dreimark> but I dont want to be the one who did this searches, they are easy to do
2007-11-04T00:11:18  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ah ok, good
2007-11-04T00:15:06  <dreimark> gn
2007-11-04T00:16:19  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2007-11-04T00:27:38  <xorAxAx> The latest release of pyPdf is version 1.10, release on October 4th, 2007.
2007-11-04T00:27:40  <xorAxAx> ah
2007-11-04T00:27:46  <xorAxAx> thats why i didnt find it a few months ago :=
2007-11-04T00:28:46  <xorAxAx> Version 1.0, 2006-01-17
2007-11-04T00:28:47  <xorAxAx> hm
2007-11-04T00:43:52  <TheSheep> what's the 1.6's equivalent of python_compatibility ?
2007-11-04T00:45:30  <TheSheep> nevermind again
2007-11-04T00:53:02  <TheSheep> seems like the 1.6 has still old address for the MoinMoin interwiki moniker
2007-11-04T00:54:15  <TheSheep> ah, no, I just have it wrong in unit tests
2007-11-04T00:55:21  <lanius> hi
2007-11-04T00:55:57  <TheSheep> ...
2007-11-04T01:05:16  <CIA-32> moin: Radomir Dopieralski <moindev@sheep.art.pl> default * 2301:994b34207d21 1.6/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Creole parser: parser and tests (backported from 1.7)
2007-11-04T01:06:34  <TheSheep> aaargh
2007-11-04T01:06:43  <TheSheep> how do I rollback?
2007-11-04T01:07:29  <TheSheep> hmm.. I'll just fix it back and commit again
2007-11-04T01:09:12  <CIA-32> moin: Radomir Dopieralski <moindev@sheep.art.pl> default * 2302:c9ac04adcf48 1.6/wikiconfig.py: wikiconfig.py: undo of unwanted change
2007-11-04T01:09:31  <TheSheep> extremely sorry for that
2007-11-04T01:11:45  <ThomasWaldmann> no problem
2007-11-04T01:13:07  * TheSheep notes to look a diff before commit next time
2007-11-04T01:13:30  <ThomasWaldmann> dont forget docs/CHANGES
2007-11-04T01:15:50  <ThomasWaldmann> somewhere we have a creole syntaxreference that should go to moinmaster
2007-11-04T01:16:21  <CIA-32> moin: Radomir Dopieralski <moindev@sheep.art.pl> default * 2303:f9a6e15cacbd 1.6/docs/CHANGES: docs/CHANGES: mentioned the new text/creole parser
2007-11-04T01:18:06  <TheSheep> the parser worked without any changes, that's *really* suspicious, I still need to test it throughfully
2007-11-04T01:31:47  <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
2007-11-04T07:50:51  <dreimark> Do we have a change in using TextCha on MM. I was able to save a page without answering one.
2007-11-04T11:02:10  <dreimark> currently we have always in user creation dialog label "TextCha (notwendig)" independent if this feature is enabled or not
2007-11-04T11:32:27  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/
2007-11-04T11:36:25  <grzywacz> ?
2007-11-04T11:38:36  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: hmm?
2007-11-04T11:38:44  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: its a must read for c++ devs :)
2007-11-04T11:39:15  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, I'm not a c++ fanatic
2007-11-04T11:39:38  * TheSheep loves c++ bashing, it's like kicking a puppy
2007-11-04T11:40:02  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: thats irrelevant :)
2007-11-04T11:40:16  <xorAxAx> even if you completly disliked it, it would be still interesting :)
2007-11-04T11:43:09  <grzywacz> Nothing new so far. :P
2007-11-04T11:44:52  <xorAxAx> well, thats good :)
2007-11-04T11:53:06  <grzywacz> Oh. I see some stupid points.
2007-11-04T11:53:14  <grzywacz> As expected, the author got too excited. ;)
2007-11-04T11:58:31  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-11-04T12:00:25  <TheSheep> "don't read this, it's impossible. just count the lines"
2007-11-04T12:00:50  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: niom
2007-11-04T12:01:36  <TheSheep> u!ow
2007-11-04T12:01:47  <ThomasWaldmann> heh
2007-11-04T12:02:33  <grzywacz> TheSheep, where does that quotation come from? ;)
2007-11-04T12:04:39  <TheSheep> grzywacz: http://yosefk.com/c++fqa/defective.html#defect-7
2007-11-04T12:06:02  <grzywacz> oh ;)
2007-11-04T12:08:42  <TheSheep> wonder why you almost never get cgi apps in cmpiled languages
2007-11-04T12:08:54  <TheSheep> compiled as in ELF binaries
2007-11-04T12:12:26  <xorAxAx> i think it was like that 10 years ago
2007-11-04T12:12:35  <xorAxAx> and perl and php evolved back then
2007-11-04T12:12:49  <xorAxAx> people realised that it easier somehow
2007-11-04T12:14:09  <TheSheep> and now you write php code via web interface
2007-11-04T12:14:20  <TheSheep> even easier
2007-11-04T12:17:22  <TheSheep> one day, when I feel particularly evil, I will write a parser for moin that allows you to execute arbitrary python code in it >:E
2007-11-04T13:56:54  <dreimark> I work on that list
2007-11-04T14:17:12  <dreimark> hmm that message needs an update in the edit window using preview too
2007-11-04T16:19:42  <dreimark> What should we do with the test changesets.
2007-11-04T16:20:35  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ?
2007-11-04T16:20:46  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: we don't backport tests
2007-11-04T16:21:03  <ThomasWaldmann> we can copy them file by file, if wanted
2007-11-04T16:21:16  <dreimark> good i do disable then all test changesets
2007-11-04T16:22:06  <xorAxAx> 1.6 has all test changesets of 1.7 until a certain point in time
2007-11-04T16:26:08  <dreimark> xorAxAx: is that tested on windows too?
2007-11-04T16:26:29  <xorAxAx> dreimark: hmm?
2007-11-04T16:26:52  <dreimark> xorAxAx: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/rev/30a153cfa8f8
2007-11-04T16:29:33  <xorAxAx> yes of course
2007-11-04T17:01:46  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2304:75f1d9739a33 1.6/.hgignore: remove some unused stuff from .hgignore
2007-11-04T17:01:53  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2305:1b6eb6d52089 1.6/docs/CHANGES: fixed CHANGES entry about markup
2007-11-04T17:15:47  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2306:dcc290aa7ebb 1.6/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py: Fixed XSS issue in RenamePage/DeletePage action (backported from 1.7)
2007-11-04T17:29:21  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2307:f04b76a88a3b 1.6/MoinMoin/PageEditor.py: renamePage: if no user comment is given, give a comment about rename and old pagename (backport from 1.7)
2007-11-04T17:32:04  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: can you mark the changesets as "D"one for your recent 1.6 commits?
2007-11-04T17:38:00  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I did?
2007-11-04T17:44:03  <ThomasWaldmann> no, the changesets are still "C"
2007-11-04T17:44:21  * TheSheep scratches his head
2007-11-04T17:44:33  <ThomasWaldmann> see http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/diff/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.6.0/BackPortsFrom1.7
2007-11-04T17:44:46  <ThomasWaldmann> see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.6.0/BackPortsFrom1.7
2007-11-04T17:46:53  <TheSheep> ok, I didn't notice the earlier changeses by you
2007-11-04T17:47:06  <TheSheep> all marked as D now
2007-11-04T17:48:32  <ThomasWaldmann> did you check the files changed by the changesets so nothing is missing?
2007-11-04T17:51:44  <ThomasWaldmann> grzywacz: can you please review your changesets and mark them accordingly?
2007-11-04T17:53:27  <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, k, will do it now..
2007-11-04T17:59:23  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: didnt you want to extend easytodo a bit?
2007-11-04T17:59:36  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/rev/784dda32048a did you backport this for creole also?
2007-11-04T17:59:40  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, yes, but I'm writing my thesis at the very moment ;)
2007-11-04T18:01:10  <TheSheep> no..
2007-11-04T18:01:24  <TheSheep> ok, doing it now
2007-11-04T18:02:57  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: hmm, shouldnt be a big hassle to add a few words to the page, no?
2007-11-04T18:03:14  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, no, but I can't do 3 things at the same time :)
2007-11-04T18:04:02  <xorAxAx> well, you wanted to do that yesterday night
2007-11-04T18:04:39  <CIA-32> moin: Radomir Dopieralski <moindev@sheep.art.pl> default * 2308:ae0795a3ae2e 1.6/wiki/htdocs/ (3 files in 3 dirs): css: use same defs for th as for td (backported from 1.7)
2007-11-04T18:18:38  <grzywacz> Um
2007-11-04T18:19:06  <grzywacz> ........
2007-11-04T18:19:16  <dreimark> grzywacz: 2144:05557f1ce219 Fix sending of email notifications after changes to messages.py ?
2007-11-04T18:19:55  <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, why did you have to save some of your changes just before me?
2007-11-04T18:20:32  <ThomasWaldmann> I didnt get a warning. did you maybe start to edit after me?
2007-11-04T18:21:24  <grzywacz> Whatever. I'll review the list again later, then.
2007-11-04T18:58:48  * ThomasWaldmann updates i18n
2007-11-04T19:04:44  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2309:586665d57c39 1.6/MoinMoin/i18n/ (6 files): updated i18n
2007-11-04T20:09:27  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2310:7b51a91d2bba 1.6/wiki/underlay.tar.bz2: updated underlay pages
2007-11-04T20:18:43  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2311:ac5d38388dd4 1.6/docs/INSTALL.html: updated INSTALL.html
2007-11-04T20:45:26  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2312:cb1d34e04bc3 1.6/ (4 files in 4 dirs): bumped version to 1.6.0beta1, updated CHANGES, cleanup
2007-11-04T20:45:27  <CIA-32> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2313:2f07058efcdf 1.6/.hgtags: tagged 1.6.0beta1
2007-11-04T20:50:05  <dreimark> cool
2007-11-04T20:53:05  <ThomasWaldmann> won't be the last one :)
2007-11-04T20:59:12  <dreimark> johill: I have saved some for you on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.6.0/BackPortsFrom1.7
2007-11-04T21:20:19  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnCreoleSyntax i moved the page there (from the test17 wiki). It needs more work to be maybe similar to the SyntaxReference page.
2007-11-04T21:23:21  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: yes, I'll get to it, thank you, it really makes it easier to get started
2007-11-04T21:23:47  <TheSheep> aah, I just remembered it has to be translated
2007-11-04T21:24:13  * TheSheep ups the priority a little
2007-11-04T21:24:49  <ThomasWaldmann> :)
2007-11-04T21:30:36  <dreimark> have to leave, good night
2007-11-04T21:30:56  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark