2007-12-22T00:13:45 * ThomasWaldmann added some comments to the tracker
2007-12-22T00:24:52 * cb22 updates #51
2007-12-22T00:26:47 <dreimark> gn all
2007-12-22T00:27:20 <cb22> night dreimark
2007-12-22T00:40:16 <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2007-12-22T00:40:24 * ThomasWaldmann looks at http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.6LinksNotTerminatedOnRightParenthesis
2007-12-22T00:47:57 <kikka> night
2007-12-22T00:55:07 * ThomasWaldmann waits whether that is final. :D
2007-12-22T01:46:04 <ThomasWaldmann> http://codeulate.com/?p=7 code search rules :D
2007-12-22T10:18:57 <kikka> Moin. :)
2007-12-22T12:19:06 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-12-22T12:47:34 <dreimark> moin
2007-12-22T13:03:29 <dreimark> bbl
2007-12-22T13:15:50 <ernestas> Should I translate the whole WhyWikiWorks page? If not, what should I translate there? I see there are looots of comments...
2007-12-22T13:17:08 <ThomasWaldmann> did you finish all system pages already?
2007-12-22T13:17:10 <ernestas> no
2007-12-22T13:17:16 <ernestas> isn't it a system page?
2007-12-22T13:17:28 <ThomasWaldmann> system pages are the one offering some functionality (like recent changes)
2007-12-22T13:17:29 <xorAxAx> no, its a help page
2007-12-22T13:17:37 <ernestas> hm, it's listed near system pages...
2007-12-22T13:17:45 <ThomasWaldmann> text-only stuff == help page
2007-12-22T13:18:12 <ernestas> it's not my fault, it's listed in EnglishGroup page in the system files section ;]
2007-12-22T13:18:24 <ernestas> ok, I will leave it alone for now
2007-12-22T13:18:50 <ThomasWaldmann> try to order your work by importance
2007-12-22T13:19:16 <ernestas> I'm trying. I thought I have to translate all system pages...
2007-12-22T13:19:23 <ernestas> first of all
2007-12-22T13:19:40 <ernestas> and it is listed there, so that's why I've asked
2007-12-22T13:19:41 <ThomasWaldmann> excluding errors :D
2007-12-22T13:19:49 * ThomasWaldmann fixes it
2007-12-22T13:20:40 <ernestas> and SyntaxReference is a help file, right?
2007-12-22T13:21:24 <xorAxAx> ernestas: it was considered to be a kind of integration test page
2007-12-22T13:21:32 <xorAxAx> until some declared it to be a help page :)
2007-12-22T13:21:40 <ernestas> hm :)
2007-12-22T13:25:24 * ThomasWaldmann looks at SyntaxReference vs. MoinMoin/TextFormatting
2007-12-22T13:26:04 <ernestas> I vote for SyntaxReference
2007-12-22T13:34:18 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, I killed MM/TF
2007-12-22T13:40:33 * xorAxAx handles the duplicates again:
2007-12-22T13:40:34 <xorAxAx> 18:29:18 < xorAxAx> fajrin.azis (2 tasks) 15 Claimed moinmoin 50 Claimed mono
2007-12-22T13:40:34 <xorAxAx> 18:29:24 < xorAxAx> leachim6 (2 tasks) 75 Claimed moinmoin 8 Claimed plone
2007-12-22T13:40:51 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: you didnt say to the student which are the duplicates
2007-12-22T13:40:55 <xorAxAx> not very helpful :)
2007-12-22T13:42:19 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: he should know that better than us
2007-12-22T13:42:44 <ThomasWaldmann> also, he could've claimed stuff after our notify
2007-12-22T13:42:48 <xorAxAx> yes, but an url would have been nice for people like me :)
2007-12-22T13:42:53 <ThomasWaldmann> thus i just said "all others"
2007-12-22T13:43:07 <xorAxAx> but indeed, 6c is pretty interesting
2007-12-22T13:47:36 * xorAxAx writes a mail to the list
2007-12-22T13:57:28 <xorAxAx> ok done, 77 is closed as well
2007-12-22T13:57:34 <xorAxAx> should we merge it into main's modern?
2007-12-22T14:11:59 <ThomasWaldmann> he obviously did not read his diff
2007-12-22T14:13:06 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: definitely not into 1.6 now
2007-12-22T14:13:12 <xorAxAx> makes sense
2007-12-22T14:13:17 <xorAxAx> yes, he is patching editlog :)
2007-12-22T14:14:29 <ThomasWaldmann> i suggest we try that in 1.7 after doing more tests before merging
2007-12-22T14:15:52 * ThomasWaldmann rather dislikes this "here is a big diff" theme development and would prefer multiple well commented small changesets
2007-12-22T14:18:23 <xorAxAx> the diff is not very big
2007-12-22T14:18:32 <xorAxAx> it only looks big because he is moving sections
2007-12-22T14:18:44 <xorAxAx> so its not a clean diff like we already realised before :)
2007-12-22T14:20:23 <ThomasWaldmann> i'll create another german update task
2007-12-22T14:29:53 * ernestas doesn't understand which page is actually used for RandomQuote - FortuneCookies or TipOfTheDay or both?
2007-12-22T14:36:06 <ernestas> and how are localised tips/cookies displayed?
2007-12-22T14:38:06 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: by using a localized version of the phrases page
2007-12-22T14:38:18 <ernestas> eh?
2007-12-22T14:38:36 <ernestas> oh, understood
2007-12-22T14:38:45 <ernestas> and what about FC/TOTD
2007-12-22T14:39:30 <ernestas> ?
2007-12-22T14:40:34 <ernestas> It seems like FC is a stripped down version of TOTD, isn't it?
2007-12-22T14:40:58 * ThomasWaldmann created #97
2007-12-22T14:41:40 * ThomasWaldmann looks at randomquote stuff
2007-12-22T14:43:55 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: which english master page are you talking about?
2007-12-22T14:44:51 <ernestas> FortuneCookies and WikiTipOfTheDay
2007-12-22T14:45:06 <ernestas> (forgot to add Wiki...)
2007-12-22T14:51:03 <ThomasWaldmann> RandomQuote Macro
2007-12-22T14:51:03 <ThomasWaldmann> Selects a random quote from FortuneCookies or a given page.
2007-12-22T14:51:29 <ThomasWaldmann> that means FC is the default, but you can give another pagename as argument to the macro.
2007-12-22T14:52:45 <ernestas> hm. ok. but I think WTOTD is better, because there are a lot more hints!
2007-12-22T14:53:13 <ernestas> but that's ok. I'm satisfied with the answer :)
2007-12-22T14:54:19 <ernestas> well, I think they could be merged
2007-12-22T14:54:34 <ernestas> would be less confusion :)
2007-12-22T14:56:41 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, after 1.6.0 :)
2007-12-22T14:57:48 <ernestas> ok
2007-12-22T14:58:05 <ernestas> oh, you're going to release it very soon, right?
2007-12-22T14:58:25 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: yes. if you finish in time, your work will be in 1.6.0.
2007-12-22T14:59:04 <ernestas> I will finish. I am translating the last System page and have already translated a few Help pages. Will see what more I need to do.
2007-12-22T14:59:10 <ThomasWaldmann> i think i'll do the release Dec 24. or 25.
2007-12-22T14:59:39 <ernestas> on Christmas ;)
2007-12-22T15:02:08 <xorAxAx> dreimark: the package test in 1.6 is still not fixed ...
2007-12-22T15:03:54 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: you have failing tests?
2007-12-22T15:04:17 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: well, somebody, most likely you, added a skip in the failing test saying "failing test"
2007-12-22T15:04:25 <xorAxAx> which is pretty annoying
2007-12-22T15:04:54 <ThomasWaldmann> yes and that will stay like that until the stuff will not fail any more when not skipped
2007-12-22T15:05:02 <xorAxAx> and i forget to copy the subdir tests from 1.7 to 1.6 some weeks ago and currently see whether this makes sense before the release
2007-12-22T15:05:11 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: well, the test broke after reimars commits
2007-12-22T15:06:29 <ThomasWaldmann> (because I dislike to do lots of explanations for failing tests when users doing a wrong install run the tests and see failing tests)
2007-12-22T15:07:39 <xorAxAx> well, this is sensible but not achieving test compliancy before a release is not - if the person doesnt want to react, revert is still a way to get it running
2007-12-22T15:08:05 <xorAxAx> is there a command that returns the dirpath of the argument?
2007-12-22T15:08:47 <xorAxAx> ah, dirname
2007-12-22T15:09:39 <ThomasWaldmann> well, if it is not sensible for you, you can fix it :)
2007-12-22T15:10:16 <xorAxAx> well, thats a bad harmful because dreimark is in this channel ...
2007-12-22T15:10:26 <xorAxAx> he could also revert it himself so i dont have to stomp onto his toes
2007-12-22T15:11:05 <ThomasWaldmann> you can also talk to him instead of to me :D
2007-12-22T15:11:24 <xorAxAx> well, thats what i initially tried to initiate, then you posed a question
2007-12-22T15:12:34 <ernestas> All system pages have been translated. Yay.
2007-12-22T15:12:50 <ThomasWaldmann> \o/
2007-12-22T15:14:03 * ThomasWaldmann is looking at that (http://server) url problem
2007-12-22T15:14:31 <ernestas> How many characters is that about (system pages, former system pages, linked in PO help pages?
2007-12-22T15:15:51 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: testPreSuccess7 works in 1.7 but fails in 1.6
2007-12-22T15:16:10 <xorAxAx> are the parsers different on both branches?
2007-12-22T15:16:22 <xorAxAx> hmm, thats the converter
2007-12-22T15:17:20 <ThomasWaldmann> there will be lots of forward ports from 1.6. to 1.7 soon
2007-12-22T15:17:32 <xorAxAx> umm
2007-12-22T15:17:55 <xorAxAx> then i should add a skip for the module that should be removed on the 1.7 branch again? this test is showing a converter bug
2007-12-22T15:18:08 <xorAxAx> ... in 1.6
2007-12-22T15:18:35 <xorAxAx> or should i commit it and do you want to have a look at it?
2007-12-22T15:19:49 <ThomasWaldmann> i dont have failing tests in 1.6
2007-12-22T15:20:09 <xorAxAx> well, thats because a lot of tests are missing
2007-12-22T15:20:14 <xorAxAx> i forgot to copy them :)
2007-12-22T15:20:27 <xorAxAx> thats what i am fixing currently
2007-12-22T15:20:30 <xorAxAx> > TypeError: emit_http_headers() got an unexpected keyword argument 'testing'
2007-12-22T15:20:36 <xorAxAx> a lot of tests are depending on that
2007-12-22T15:21:27 <ThomasWaldmann> well, feel free to do any test work you like, but I will skip all failing tests before doing the release.
2007-12-22T15:22:28 <xorAxAx> maybe you should also fix a few :)
2007-12-22T15:22:38 <xorAxAx> now i am down to 18 failures
2007-12-22T15:22:40 <xorAxAx> let me see ...
2007-12-22T15:22:47 <ThomasWaldmann> i am working on the url issue, as I already mentioned
2007-12-22T15:22:57 <xorAxAx> > assert u'<a class="interwiki" href="http://moinmo.in/something" title="MoinMoin">something</a>' == '<a class="interwiki" href="http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/something" title="MoinMoin">something</a>'
2007-12-22T15:23:01 <xorAxAx> hah, wtf :)
2007-12-22T15:23:26 <ThomasWaldmann> hmpf
2007-12-22T15:27:47 <xorAxAx> hmm, i copied old tests
2007-12-22T15:27:52 * xorAxAx tries again :)
2007-12-22T15:32:40 <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2452:eec126c8f52a 1.6/MoinMoin/ (23 files in 14 dirs): Copied subdirectory test files from 1.7 (4f2ce9dc42e8). 20 new test failures.
2007-12-22T15:41:28 <xorAxAx> a lot of them are shallow
2007-12-22T15:56:58 <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2453:3d272fd541be 1.6/MoinMoin/formatter/_tests/test_formatter.py: Removed id tests that are only applicable to 1.7 (do not port to 1.7)
2007-12-22T15:57:00 <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2454:b583709cf6fa 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_GetVal.py: Added skip because of broken test
2007-12-22T15:57:03 <xorAxAx> remaining files with test failures: MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Action.py MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_text_html_text_moin_wiki.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_ImageLink.py MoinMoin/action/_tests/test_attachfile.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_GetVal.py MoinMoin/parser/_tests/test_text_moin_wiki.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Hits.py
2007-12-22T16:00:17 <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2455:b0d78737214f 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Hits.py: 1.6 does not have any Hits macro (do not port to 1.7).
2007-12-22T16:00:27 <xorAxAx> remaining files with test failures: MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Action.py MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_text_html_text_moin_wiki.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_ImageLink.py MoinMoin/action/_tests/test_attachfile.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_GetVal.py MoinMoin/parser/_tests/test_text_moin_wiki.py
2007-12-22T16:03:24 <CIA-34> moin: Alexander Schremmer <alex AT alexanderweb DOT de> default * 2456:9ac9ad7b736f 1.6/MoinMoin/action/_tests/test_attachfile.py: Added two skips because the attachfile test is broken.
2007-12-22T16:03:25 <xorAxAx> remaining ones: MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Action.py MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_text_html_text_moin_wiki.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_ImageLink.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_GetVal.py MoinMoin/parser/_tests/test_text_moin_wiki.py
2007-12-22T16:03:55 <xorAxAx> remaining ones: MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Action.py MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_text_html_text_moin_wiki.py MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_ImageLink.py MoinMoin/parser/_tests/test_text_moin_wiki.py
2007-12-22T16:11:35 <theredmonkey> hi
2007-12-22T16:12:07 <dreimark> xorAxAx: which package test is failing
2007-12-22T16:15:04 <ThomasWaldmann> moin theredmonkey
2007-12-22T16:26:49 <xorAxAx> dreimark: well, see the skips on the 1.6 branch
2007-12-22T16:33:27 <dreimark> these tests don't fail in 1.7
2007-12-22T16:34:11 <dreimark> and it was bad to skip them for 1.6 before the last commit
2007-12-22T16:35:34 <dreimark> and it is bad that they don't clean up afterwards
2007-12-22T16:37:24 <xorAxAx> dreimark: they worked before your commits
2007-12-22T16:37:44 <xorAxAx> to the package module
2007-12-22T16:38:00 <dreimark> xorAxAx: they worked after too, see 1.7
2007-12-22T16:38:25 <dreimark> may be I have broken them, but it could be some other change too
2007-12-22T16:41:19 <dreimark> my changes are done nearly a year ago
2007-12-22T16:41:42 <dreimark> and the tests in 1.7 doesn't fail
2007-12-22T16:43:06 <xorAxAx> but this means that the test is not broken
2007-12-22T16:47:29 <dreimark> I guess something else as packages got's broken and we see it in these tests
2007-12-22T16:56:59 <dreimark> ahrg, it's somehow bad that's the testwiki for py.test takes all pages I have already created using the standalone server
2007-12-22T16:59:11 <dreimark> xorAxAx: the test wiki should start with an empty pagedir
2007-12-22T17:00:11 <xorAxAx> ???
2007-12-22T17:00:25 <xorAxAx> the test wiki and the moin.py wiki use a different data dir
2007-12-22T17:00:35 <xorAxAx> and the former is empty by default
2007-12-22T17:02:09 <dreimark> hmm, no "copying data" does copy your standalone wiki
2007-12-22T17:03:05 <xorAxAx> oh
2007-12-22T17:03:37 <xorAxAx> yes, thats old code that thomas wrote before he wrote the wikiconfig in the root dir
2007-12-22T17:03:44 <dreimark> and it copies the users too
2007-12-22T17:08:15 * dreimark fetches a fresh clone for packages tests
2007-12-22T17:10:12 <xorAxAx> gah, 1.7 is still spilling out these useless logging msgs
2007-12-22T17:11:22 <dreimark> xorAxAx: can you fix this py.test testwiki stuff ?
2007-12-22T17:11:31 <xorAxAx> cb22: did you try to run all your tests with your patch applied?
2007-12-22T17:11:53 <xorAxAx> dreimark: its not related to conftest or py.test
2007-12-22T17:12:34 <xorAxAx> its in its own module that you can fix as well
2007-12-22T17:12:42 <dreimark> not directly but if we all have a different standalone wiki for testings we can have different results
2007-12-22T17:13:27 <xorAxAx> yes
2007-12-22T17:13:42 <xorAxAx> i just meant to say that you do not need to modify conftest
2007-12-22T17:15:26 <xorAxAx> cb22: do you think that its a lot of work to port #51 to 1.7?
2007-12-22T17:16:22 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: i think #51 should go into 1.7. what do you think?
2007-12-22T17:18:22 <ThomasWaldmann> it will be in 1.7 in any case :)
2007-12-22T17:19:11 <ThomasWaldmann> the question is rather whether we want it in 1.6.1. but as we plan to do 1.7 rather quickly anyway, that is maybe not necessary.
2007-12-22T17:19:39 <dreimark> if we get delayed for 1.7 we can have a 1.6.1
2007-12-22T17:20:11 <xorAxAx> ???
2007-12-22T17:20:30 <xorAxAx> its pretty important to have a stable branch with at least security fixes
2007-12-22T17:20:45 <xorAxAx> esp. with such bad code coverage of unittests
2007-12-22T17:20:46 <dreimark> ok
2007-12-22T17:21:15 <xorAxAx> but in the past, many features went into the stable branch
2007-12-22T17:21:19 <xorAxAx> which is not really sane IMHO
2007-12-22T17:21:21 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess there will be a 1.6.1 in any case, but i hope we won't have 1.6.9
2007-12-22T17:22:00 <dreimark> yeah !!!
2007-12-22T17:22:10 <xorAxAx> so, it kind of makes sense to have #51 in 1.6.1 to ease the migration
2007-12-22T17:22:21 <xorAxAx> in 1.7 we can have the same without the deprecationwarning
2007-12-22T17:23:05 <dreimark> and the argparser addon from johill too
2007-12-22T17:23:24 <dreimark> or we add this only to 1.7
2007-12-22T17:24:00 <dreimark> it can go to 1.7 only
2007-12-22T18:10:27 <bolekk> dreimark: ping
2007-12-22T18:10:33 <dreimark> hi bolekk
2007-12-22T18:12:10 <dreimark> how ary you?
2007-12-22T18:13:06 <bolekk> hi, it's good you are here :) In your comment you told me that i should put the changed macros on MocroMarket, what about those from AdminTools ?
2007-12-22T18:13:32 <bolekk> there is a special page for those 4 macros where they are described
2007-12-22T18:14:04 <bolekk> http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/AdminTools
2007-12-22T18:15:18 <bolekk> should I copy it and place in the 1.6 table ? or maybe use this page and add links to converted versions ?
2007-12-22T18:15:25 <bolekk> I'm fine, thanks :)
2007-12-22T18:15:54 <dreimark> you read my mind :) a copy by a prefix name of 1.6_
2007-12-22T18:16:36 <dreimark> and add a link to AlexanderAgibalov homepage
2007-12-22T18:16:54 <bolekk> you mean create a page moinmo.in/MacroMarket/1.6_AdminTools ?
2007-12-22T18:17:44 <dreimark> yes
2007-12-22T18:18:05 <bolekk> all right I'll do it
2007-12-22T18:19:33 <bolekk> I'll try to convert this fourth one (ManageUsers IIRC) to have all of them
2007-12-22T18:19:42 <dreimark> fine
2007-12-22T18:20:13 <bolekk> what else.. I don't understand what did you mean by those two lines of code under "GrpPages:" in your comment
2007-12-22T18:21:56 <dreimark> GrpPages = request.rootpage.getPageList(filter ...
2007-12-22T18:22:05 <dreimark> could be replaced by those lines
2007-12-22T18:22:28 <dreimark> because if one chnages the regex for Groups this line fails
2007-12-22T18:23:55 <dreimark> s/chnages/changes/
2007-12-22T18:24:45 <bolekk> so this regex string in re.compile is taken from come cfg and shouldn't be included in the code ?
2007-12-22T18:26:02 <dreimark> it should be taken from it's config var at least in german someone could name it "Gruppe" instead of "Group"
2007-12-22T18:26:38 <bolekk> I see
2007-12-22T18:28:40 <bolekk> ok, I think that's all for now, I'll tell you when I post the latest changes on MacroMarket
2007-12-22T18:29:28 <dreimark> fine :)
2007-12-22T18:30:54 <dreimark> xorAxAx: when or why can a user which gain_superuser_rights in a test loose delete rights, any ideas?
2007-12-22T18:40:46 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2457:7dea2ec3a1fc 1.6/MoinMoin/parser/text_moin_wiki.py:
2007-12-22T18:40:46 <CIA-34> moin: Some wiki parser fixes / cleanup, interwiki links are now parsed similar to free url links:
2007-12-22T18:40:46 <CIA-34> moin: * both now require a begin of a line, some whitespace or some punctuation chars at the left
2007-12-22T18:40:46 <CIA-34> moin: * both now contain 1+ non-whitespace characters, but not punctuation at the end (like
2007-12-22T18:40:48 <CIA-34> moin: closing parentheses, dots, commas)
2007-12-22T18:40:50 <CIA-34> moin: * use [[...]] or surround with blanks in cases of trouble
2007-12-22T18:40:52 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2458:13d0d2c29d79 1.6/MoinMoin/ (22 files in 14 dirs): merged main
2007-12-22T18:40:55 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2459:683837b4fe04 1.6/docs/CHANGES: updated CHANGES
2007-12-22T18:44:38 <xorAxAx> dreimark: no idea
2007-12-22T18:46:23 <johill> dreimark: did you test the argparser addon?
2007-12-22T18:47:00 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: readed it (tells it looks fine) and that it should be added to 1.7
2007-12-22T18:47:30 <dreimark> I will do tests after I got why test_packages is not able to kill in 1.6 it testpages
2007-12-22T18:48:42 <johill> :)
2007-12-22T18:49:54 * ThomasWaldmann curses gnome-panel
2007-12-22T19:11:41 <kikka> ehm, thomas arendsen not answered yet :(
2007-12-22T19:12:51 <kikka> And tomorrow I'll be away till 26.
2007-12-22T19:14:09 <dreimark> xorAxAx: ThomasWaldmann: we should add in _tests/common.py request.user.trusted = True
2007-12-22T19:14:34 <dreimark> otherwise our test user has only rights of All
2007-12-22T19:14:43 <dreimark> and no delete right
2007-12-22T19:16:12 <xorAxAx> dreimark: why is it different in 1.7?
2007-12-22T19:16:39 <dreimark> because of request.user.auth_method = request.cfg.trusted_auth_methods[0]
2007-12-22T19:16:48 <dreimark> which we haven't in 1.6
2007-12-22T19:17:07 <xorAxAx> ah
2007-12-22T19:18:00 <dreimark> do you fix that, I have to do mirror a broken server now
2007-12-22T19:18:02 <dreimark> bbl
2007-12-22T19:18:08 <dreimark> please
2007-12-22T19:18:46 <xorAxAx> i am busy reading a paper
2007-12-22T19:19:07 <xorAxAx> about secure xml views
2007-12-22T19:20:40 <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: well, if it does not work out, we can just reopen the task if it times out. at least you didn't have much work with it in that case.
2007-12-22T19:21:27 <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: but maybe just wait, maybe he sends you an answer as soon as he has found some time...
2007-12-22T19:21:56 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: he is on vacations
2007-12-22T19:22:20 <xorAxAx> so kikka should ask if he wants to do this work related thing in this time frame (via irc)
2007-12-22T19:22:57 <kikka> ThomasWaldmann, eh, was ich sagen wollte, dass ich bis zum 26. nicht erreichbar sein werde. Ich denke dass ich den Task noch schaffe.
2007-12-22T19:23:26 <kikka> And I could write the case study on the chaos communication congress.
2007-12-22T19:24:04 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: that email responder mail does not implicate that he did not get the mail
2007-12-22T19:24:13 <ThomasWaldmann> that can be or not
2007-12-22T19:24:15 <xorAxAx> will there be lightning talks? maybe we should schedule a lightning talk and a meeting after it :)
2007-12-22T19:24:26 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: thats why he should ping him on irc :)
2007-12-22T19:24:51 <kikka> I ping him on irc this morning.
2007-12-22T19:24:56 <kikka> Ok, I'll wait.
2007-12-22T19:25:12 <kikka> xorAxAx, what means "lightling"?
2007-12-22T19:25:28 <xorAxAx> kikka: blitz
2007-12-22T19:25:29 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: yeah, irc is better maybe
2007-12-22T19:25:43 <kikka> xorAxAx, blitz talks on c3?
2007-12-22T19:25:51 <kikka> never heard of it.
2007-12-22T19:26:04 <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: you have 5 minutes to tell something
2007-12-22T19:26:18 <kikka> Ah!
2007-12-22T19:26:22 <xorAxAx> yes, c3 is pretty strict wrt time organisation
2007-12-22T19:26:42 <kikka> I don't to see much talks. :)
2007-12-22T19:27:14 <ThomasWaldmann> and, at least the last time they did it, you have to send it your paper before, so it already is located on the presentation machine when you get the mic
2007-12-22T19:27:34 <ThomasWaldmann> s/send it/send in/
2007-12-22T19:28:10 <kikka> meeting after a moin-lightning talk? hm
2007-12-22T19:36:51 <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: http://events.ccc.de/congress/2007/Lightning_Talks
2007-12-22T19:41:37 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, I believe that I have already translated about 30000 or more characters
2007-12-22T19:42:21 <ernestas> should I now go to every page and count them??
2007-12-22T19:42:31 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: post a estimate to the tracker
2007-12-22T19:42:46 <ThomasWaldmann> you can use action=info for that
2007-12-22T19:43:01 <ernestas> aren't there bytes?
2007-12-22T19:43:35 <ernestas> or are there characters?
2007-12-22T19:43:35 <ThomasWaldmann> (estimate doesnt need to be precise to the last byte, just show you are beyond)
2007-12-22T19:43:44 <ernestas> ok
2007-12-22T19:43:46 <ernestas> estimate of every page or estimate overall?
2007-12-22T19:44:05 <ThomasWaldmann> action=info are bytes (utf-8 encoded chars)
2007-12-22T19:44:06 <ernestas> or both?
2007-12-22T19:44:17 <ThomasWaldmann> so your char count will be lower
2007-12-22T19:44:29 <ernestas> ok, I'll keep this in mind
2007-12-22T19:45:48 <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: the ccc page sounds like they want everybody use his own laptop =X-)
2007-12-22T19:46:34 * ThomasWaldmann thinks we will see some people trying 6 minutes long getting it working if that is the case.
2007-12-22T19:54:33 * starshine agrees
2007-12-22T19:54:48 <starshine> and 4 m borrowing one the av projector likes better
2007-12-22T19:58:08 <kikka> THomasWaldmann: Hm? I've got a Laptop
2007-12-22T19:58:25 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: that'd suck
2007-12-22T20:01:18 * cb22 gets his patches working on 1.7
2007-12-22T20:03:27 <dreimark> xorAxAx: ok, will add it later when I am back at home
2007-12-22T20:06:31 <dreimark> I think we will need beamers with wlan access and X11 forwarding for X0 presentations
2007-12-22T20:07:22 <cb22> i've noticed , formatted=False fell away in 1.7?
2007-12-22T20:07:23 <ernestas> Ok, I have posted very estimate character count in comments. I got about 46000 chars.
2007-12-22T20:08:03 <ernestas> It may be less, but it is no less than 30000
2007-12-22T20:10:05 <dreimark> xorAxAx: is your paper related to virtual
2007-12-22T20:10:31 <dreimark> xml documents too
2007-12-22T20:10:32 <dreimark> ?
2007-12-22T20:11:35 <kikka> Hm, my Mailclient doesn't work on my Congressnotebook. Damn.
2007-12-22T20:12:09 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, could you please review my work?
2007-12-22T20:14:44 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: yeah, doing it now
2007-12-22T20:15:03 <ernestas> ok, thanks
2007-12-22T20:15:29 <xorAxAx> dreimark: it is agnostic wrt that property
2007-12-22T20:15:56 <kikka> What means "wrt", xorAxAx?
2007-12-22T20:16:14 <xorAxAx> kikka: with regards to
2007-12-22T20:16:35 <xorAxAx> --> hins. in german
2007-12-22T20:17:14 <kikka> Ah, thanks.
2007-12-22T20:21:56 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: http://master.moinmo.in/SystemPagesInLithuanianGroup there are some links to nonexisting pages, please review
2007-12-22T20:25:50 <ernestas> yes, there are. I thought that is normal. Ok, I'll fix.
2007-12-22T20:27:37 <xorAxAx> well, i think thats a feature
2007-12-22T20:27:57 <xorAxAx> they should stay there - so people will create the page with the correct name
2007-12-22T20:27:57 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, fixed
2007-12-22T20:28:16 <xorAxAx> and not use a wrong one like we saw a few times already :)
2007-12-22T20:28:23 <ThomasWaldmann> well, links to nonexisting lt pages would be ok, but not to nonexisting english pages
2007-12-22T20:28:33 <xorAxAx> ok
2007-12-22T20:28:40 <ernestas> I just copied it from EnglishGroup ;)
2007-12-22T20:28:49 <ernestas> maybe it was changed
2007-12-22T20:28:56 <ernestas> but I have fixed that
2007-12-22T20:28:58 <ernestas> in my page
2007-12-22T20:30:18 * ernestas claims #54
2007-12-22T20:30:22 <ThomasWaldmann> i removed the helponprocessors link from english
2007-12-22T20:31:34 <kikka> ernestas, how old are you? :)
2007-12-22T20:31:36 * xorAxAx handles #54
2007-12-22T20:31:37 <ernestas> I have an empty USB stick lying around, so I thought I could help
2007-12-22T20:31:41 <ernestas> kikka, 17
2007-12-22T20:31:44 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: is ImageLink still in 1.6 ?
2007-12-22T20:32:28 <ernestas> xorAxAx, thanks
2007-12-22T20:33:26 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: now you have it twice X)
2007-12-22T20:33:56 * ThomasWaldmann deletes
2007-12-22T20:33:59 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann violated the locking protocol :)
2007-12-22T20:34:41 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: it is
2007-12-22T20:48:01 <CIA-34> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2460:f274205aa0d2 1.6/MoinMoin/_tests/common.py: _tests.common: gain_superuser_rights user is trusted
2007-12-22T20:48:06 <CIA-34> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2461:d68bdb9c7de0 1.6/MoinMoin/_tests/test_packages.py: _tests.test_packages: enabled some skipped tests
2007-12-22T20:50:55 <grzywacz> moin
2007-12-22T20:56:02 * dreimark tries to fix all the delete Page tests
2007-12-22T20:56:05 <dreimark> while
2007-12-22T20:57:32 * ThomasWaldmann tries to fix the nesting tests
2007-12-22T20:58:41 <ernestas> where can I get underlay.tar from?
2007-12-22T20:58:52 <ernestas> It's not on downloads page
2007-12-22T21:03:26 <ernestas> Or is it just .tar.bz2 of moin/1.7 from http://hg.moinmo.in/ ?
2007-12-22T21:03:54 <dreimark> :)
2007-12-22T21:04:42 <ernestas> what does your smiley means? yes? :)
2007-12-22T21:04:57 <ernestas> *mean
2007-12-22T21:05:29 <dreimark> it was directed to ThomasWaldmann, sorry
2007-12-22T21:05:35 <ernestas> oh, ok
2007-12-22T21:06:06 <ernestas> anyone knows where to get that mysterious underlay.tar? :>
2007-12-22T21:06:18 <dreimark> ernestas: underlay.tar.bz is in your wiki dir
2007-12-22T21:06:33 <cb22> ernestas: its inside the wiki dir from the tar.bz2 you can get from hg.moinmo.in
2007-12-22T21:07:17 <ernestas> thanks, now I have found it
2007-12-22T21:10:19 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: for what do you need it?
2007-12-22T21:10:35 <ernestas> for my task??
2007-12-22T21:10:58 <ernestas> "When extracting the underlay.tar, tar fails because of..."
2007-12-22T21:11:04 <ThomasWaldmann> make sure you use the one from 1.6
2007-12-22T21:11:13 <ernestas> oh, from 1.6? ok..
2007-12-22T21:11:20 <ThomasWaldmann> the 1.7 one is stone age
2007-12-22T21:11:42 <ernestas> because it's said that "I tried to get moin-1.7 on an USB stick which was fresh formatted with FAT32 and failed."
2007-12-22T21:11:48 <ernestas> ok, I'll use the 1.6 one
2007-12-22T21:12:05 <xorAxAx> try both :)
2007-12-22T21:12:09 <ernestas> hm, ok :)
2007-12-22T21:17:37 <CIA-34> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2462:9ed420e4f8b7 1.6/MoinMoin/ (_tests/test_PageEditor.py action/_tests/test_attachfile.py): enabled skipped test based on gain_superuser_rights
2007-12-22T21:26:31 <ernestas> Both 1.6 and 1.7 have the same problem. WikiHjemmeside and WikiHjemmeSide don't get well together. The WikiHjemmeside page is dated 2004-12-02 though and, I think is not recent enough. It's translator has not responded to a comment in it (dated 2006-10-04) and has not updated the page to a recent version, so I think he is not going to help with that issue. Could we just remove that (WikiHjemmeside) page?
2007-12-22T21:30:24 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, xorAxAx, what do you think?
2007-12-22T21:30:39 <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: another solution would be preferrable
2007-12-22T21:30:50 <ernestas> ok, let's find the translator :D
2007-12-22T21:31:16 <ernestas> or, well, wait... let's check one thing...
2007-12-22T21:38:15 <bolekk> dreimark: you can now check MacroMarket - LoginHint, Columns and 4 macros in 1.6_AdminTools
2007-12-22T21:38:43 <dreimark> bolekk: will do in some minutes
2007-12-22T21:40:22 <bolekk> dreimark: I'm still not sure what to do with AlertDate.py ... maybe it is better to leave it with one parameter. When we some day have a function parsing dates it will be more comfortable to use one date string , yes ?
2007-12-22T21:40:37 <dreimark> yes
2007-12-22T21:46:43 <CIA-34> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2463:bcecddb9822d 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Action.py: _tests.test_Action: based on 1.6 version of Action macro (do not port to 1.7)
2007-12-22T21:46:44 <CIA-34> moin: Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 2464:92125d5cf84c 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_ImageLink.py: _tests.test_ImageLink: fixed message string for not enough arguments
2007-12-22T21:48:50 <bolekk> dreimark: I've changed WikiLog into using 3 parameters but I think it's a different case, it doesn't use time. Maybe I'll leave AlertDate with one parameter , what do you think ?
2007-12-22T21:48:50 <ernestas> Here's what I have found out (on EFNet Norwegian/English #linux.no channel):
2007-12-22T21:49:01 <ernestas> <ernestas> hello. I would like to know how is HomePage in norwegian? I have a collision of tho names and WikiHjemmeside can't be used. I don't know norwegian, but is there any alternative to that name?
2007-12-22T21:49:01 <ernestas> <beorn> Of course.
2007-12-22T21:49:01 <ernestas> <ernestas> what whould it be?
2007-12-22T21:49:01 <ernestas> <beorn> In Norway we have two languages, exactly for that use.
2007-12-22T21:49:01 <ernestas> <beorn> Try "Heimesida"
2007-12-22T21:49:17 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, could we use this name?
2007-12-22T21:50:04 <xorAxAx> ernestas: is both bokmal?
2007-12-22T21:50:22 <ernestas> wait a sec, I'll ask
2007-12-22T21:52:39 <dreimark> bolekk: WikiLog is different, I think we use it as you have defined it now. AlertDate should have/get one parameter.
2007-12-22T21:55:28 <bolekk> ok, I'll upload it on MacroMarket in a while.
2007-12-22T21:57:11 <ernestas> xorAxAx, here is the answer:
2007-12-22T21:57:14 <ernestas> <beorn> ernestas: According to Norwegian laws, 25% of all public information must use nynorsk, so it's appropriate to use it in your Wiki I think
2007-12-22T21:58:39 <xorAxAx> ernestas: well, the problem is that nynorsk would be a separate locale
2007-12-22T21:58:50 <xorAxAx> and you would be only deferring the next conflict
2007-12-22T21:59:10 <ernestas> hmm
2007-12-22T21:59:55 <xorAxAx> but maybe it doesnt make sense to split the locales - how do other projects handle it?
2007-12-22T22:01:12 <bolekk> dreimark: you suggested me the python.vim file but where should I place it to get it work ?
2007-12-22T22:04:58 <ernestas> xorAxAx:
2007-12-22T22:05:00 <ernestas> <TommyG> ernestas: You're going to run into this problem quite a lot though, since Norwegian and Danish is very similiar, spelling wise
2007-12-22T22:06:17 <dreimark> bolekk: see "man vim"
2007-12-22T22:06:49 <ernestas> if that's the case maybe we shouldn't have separate nyorsk and bokmal, but like beorn said use <25% of nyorsk to prevent such cases
2007-12-22T22:07:16 <xorAxAx> ernestas: thats not a reason to prevent collisions
2007-12-22T22:07:23 <ernestas> ok
2007-12-22T22:07:26 <xorAxAx> ernestas: the reasons must be purely cultural to be relevant
2007-12-22T22:07:51 <ernestas> <xorAxAx> but maybe it doesnt make sense to split the locales - how do other projects handle it?
2007-12-22T22:07:59 <ernestas> <oo> ernestas: all projects have seperate translations for nynorsk and bokmaal. It's two seperate languages, like US english and GB english are quite similar, but still two different languages.
2007-12-22T22:08:16 <xorAxAx> so thats how we should do it :)
2007-12-22T22:08:39 <xorAxAx> and the diff is much larger than us/british english
2007-12-22T22:08:46 <xorAxAx> both languages have completly different stems
2007-12-22T22:09:45 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ok, added patches for 1.7
2007-12-22T22:10:31 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2465:d926780c2de0 1.6/MoinMoin/parser/_tests/test_text_moin_wiki.py: wiki parser tests: fixed some of them
2007-12-22T22:10:35 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2466:dad3f30a2ad1 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_Action.py: Action macro test: test code was not matching 1.6 macro code (do not port to 1.7)
2007-12-22T22:10:36 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2467:6f7ad6a46839 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/_tests/test_ImageLink.py: ImageLink macro test: fix test
2007-12-22T22:10:39 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2468:961e0d82c961 1.6/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 3 dirs): merged main
2007-12-22T22:11:39 <cb22> xorAxAx: i think i've asked before, but task #49 is purely a doc one?
2007-12-22T22:11:46 <kikka> Do you think about an esperanto translation?
2007-12-22T22:12:19 <xorAxAx> kikka: there is a task that would allow somebody to do one
2007-12-22T22:12:50 <xorAxAx> cb22: depends :) i think documenting is a good enough fix
2007-12-22T22:13:08 <ernestas> xorAxAx, is Norwegian MoinMoin translator still translating?
2007-12-22T22:13:32 <kikka> xorAxAx, hm, my esperanto skills are too bad. :/
2007-12-22T22:13:33 <ernestas> or is he gone?
2007-12-22T22:13:40 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: on what are you working right now?
2007-12-22T22:15:01 <ernestas> xorAxAx, could we use just HomePage in nb instead of WikiHomePage?
2007-12-22T22:16:12 <xorAxAx> ernestas: no idea, see the page history
2007-12-22T22:16:25 <xorAxAx> ernestas: yes, thats fine
2007-12-22T22:16:33 <ernestas> Yay!
2007-12-22T22:18:15 <ernestas> Can I fix backlinks and rename WikiHjemmeside to Hjemmeside
2007-12-22T22:18:16 <ernestas> ?
2007-12-22T22:18:47 <kikka> I think you undertoke pupil with this translation-task. :)
2007-12-22T22:19:06 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: bolekk's task
2007-12-22T22:20:03 <ernestas> kikka, eh?
2007-12-22T22:20:30 <xorAxAx> ernestas: yes, or use a synonym
2007-12-22T22:20:34 <kikka> ernestas, with the "new translation" task.
2007-12-22T22:21:10 <kikka> I think, it's very difficult to translate the whole wiki
2007-12-22T22:21:12 <ernestas> xorAxAx, what synonym would it be in English?
2007-12-22T22:21:20 <ernestas> HousePage? :)
2007-12-22T22:21:29 <xorAxAx> ernestas: no ...
2007-12-22T22:21:37 <ernestas> hm, that would be nice
2007-12-22T22:21:43 <xorAxAx> ernestas: this question needs some creativity :)
2007-12-22T22:22:11 <ernestas> xorAxAx, InitialPage?
2007-12-22T22:23:30 <ernestas> PrimaryPage?
2007-12-22T22:23:51 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ok, just that we dont do the same stuff again. i'll fix the Action macro now.
2007-12-22T22:23:55 <xorAxAx> ernestas: initialpage is fine
2007-12-22T22:23:56 <bolekk> dreimark: uploaded AlertDate and fixed some minor whitespace issues in LoginHint, Manageusers, WikiLog. Waiting for your comments.
2007-12-22T22:24:11 <xorAxAx> ernestas: wikiinitialpage
2007-12-22T22:24:25 <ernestas> yeah
2007-12-22T22:25:18 <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: translation is 30000 chars, not everything
2007-12-22T22:25:41 <ThomasWaldmann> and 30000 chars for a new language basically means doing the po file
2007-12-22T22:25:46 <kikka> ThomasWaldmann, okay.
2007-12-22T22:25:52 <kikka> Can I see the PO File?
2007-12-22T22:27:40 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: oh, sorry
2007-12-22T22:28:14 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: my fault
2007-12-22T22:28:38 <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: MoinMaster:MoinI18n/xx
2007-12-22T22:30:35 <kikka> moinmo.in/MoinMaster:MoinI18n/xx?
2007-12-22T22:32:19 <ernestas> xorAxAx: InitialPage translation to Norwegian would be "<beorn> Startside"
2007-12-22T22:32:55 <xorAxAx> ernestas: so WikiStartSide?
2007-12-22T22:33:04 <ernestas> yep
2007-12-22T22:33:53 <starshine> I expect to be doing a fresh pull later this afternoon :)
2007-12-22T22:33:54 <ernestas> well, I see we already have StartSide
2007-12-22T22:34:04 <ernestas> without wiki
2007-12-22T22:34:10 <ernestas> I think that's the FrontPage
2007-12-22T22:34:22 <xorAxAx> ah, indeed, this is homepage
2007-12-22T22:34:26 * xorAxAx was confused
2007-12-22T22:34:33 <xorAxAx> personalpage?
2007-12-22T22:35:50 <kikka> Ah, I foud this page. Hm.
2007-12-22T22:38:53 <xorAxAx> 21:52:57 -!- Irssi: New peak in #moin-dev@freenode : 34
2007-12-22T22:39:04 <CIA-34> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2469:3eb0ead53e1a 1.6/MoinMoin/macro/ (Action.py _tests/test_Action.py): Action macro: fix macro and test
2007-12-22T22:40:03 <dreimark> bolekk: do you have tried LostSoulsInGroups.py ?
2007-12-22T22:40:15 <dreimark> xorAxAx: new peak or ?
2007-12-22T22:43:09 <ernestas> err, someone is shooting in our staircase.....
2007-12-22T22:43:31 <ThomasWaldmann> duck :)
2007-12-22T22:43:45 <cb22> ernestas: well? shoot back :)
2007-12-22T22:44:43 <ernestas> xorAxAx, could we use UserPage?
2007-12-22T22:45:01 <ernestas> if yes then:
2007-12-22T22:45:02 <ernestas> <N`Grath> ernestas: probably 'brukerside' (which translates roughly as 'user page')
2007-12-22T22:46:13 <bolekk> dreimark: yes. But I do not have any "lost users" so the outcome is empty...
2007-12-22T22:46:46 <bolekk> dreimark: what is a "lost user" ? and how can I create one or two ? :p
2007-12-22T22:48:36 <xorAxAx> ernestas brukerside is nice
2007-12-22T22:48:52 <ernestas> ok
2007-12-22T22:50:26 <ernestas> xorAxAx, so I would rename it to WikiBrukerSide and fix backlinks, right?
2007-12-22T22:51:48 <dreimark> bolekk: you should find all Groups of SystemPages
2007-12-22T22:52:33 <dreimark> Group pages could be used for different possibilities
2007-12-22T22:52:49 <dreimark> one is for usergroups
2007-12-22T22:52:50 <xorAxAx> ernestas: yes
2007-12-22T22:53:05 <ernestas> xorAxAx, ok
2007-12-22T22:53:30 <dreimark> bolekk: and if you add a user to a usergroup and he has no account then his name is listed
2007-12-22T22:53:57 <ernestas> cb22, my dad has gone to shoot them... and now I hear they're shooting... that's too bad....
2007-12-22T22:55:08 <dreimark> bolekk: check the replacement for GrpPages:
2007-12-22T22:56:51 <ernestas> cb22, they're drug addicts or smth...
2007-12-22T23:00:26 <bolekk> dreimark: how do I add a user to a group ? ; I'm already using the replacement from your comment on Google site
2007-12-22T23:01:20 <rafael> hi all
2007-12-22T23:02:39 <rafael> xorAxAx: at the moment i have network problems so i can't really work on the unittests because i don't know how to do.. could you please give me a basic structure for an assert?
2007-12-22T23:03:31 <dreimark> bolekk: no, mostly compare line 31 with my line (mine ends with search) the next line is different too
2007-12-22T23:04:13 <xorAxAx> rafael: well, the code that i pasted yesterday
2007-12-22T23:04:22 <xorAxAx> did you assemble that to a function? please show it
2007-12-22T23:04:36 <dreimark> you can add * ThisUserDoesNotExist to any page ending with Group e.g. UserGroup
2007-12-22T23:05:32 <dreimark> bolekk: Group pages are used for ACLs. see HelpOnAccessControlLists
2007-12-22T23:05:51 <rafael> xorAxAx: no, because in your formatter unittest there where the code from there and there and i couldn't reconstruct it for my needs.
2007-12-22T23:05:58 <bolekk> dreimark: oh, I'm sorry , I should have pasted them directly
2007-12-22T23:06:17 <dreimark> bolekk: no problem
2007-12-22T23:06:18 <xorAxAx> rafael: then please add everything i pasted in chronological order and add includes, put that into a pastebin
2007-12-22T23:07:19 <rafael> xorAxAx: what did you pasted? sorry, i cannot look in my logs because i'm on my brothers pc
2007-12-22T23:08:22 <bolekk> dreimark: It's strange now, it generates a huge table with columns (System pages in xxx group)(list_of_all_pages)...
2007-12-22T23:13:09 <dreimark> this is correct
2007-12-22T23:13:29 <dreimark> because Group pages can be used for more as only users
2007-12-22T23:15:10 <bolekk> dreimark: I thought it should list only user names. Anyway the behaviour before chenges was different (no results on my wiki)
2007-12-22T23:17:02 <bolekk> dreimark: should I upload this version on MacroMarket? Is this title "Users in custom groups who don't have user accounts" appropriate ?
2007-12-22T23:17:29 <dreimark> bolekk: the nameing of this routine is not well done. Group is generic UserGroup is a specific use
2007-12-22T23:17:36 <dreimark> case
2007-12-22T23:18:45 <dreimark> you can name it "items in custom groups"
2007-12-22T23:19:16 <dreimark> and set in brackets Users in custom groups who don't have user accounts
2007-12-22T23:24:20 <xorAxAx> rafael: ask ThomasWaldmann for the logs
2007-12-22T23:24:22 <bolekk> dreimark: you mean change the title that is displayed on a page to "Items in custom groups (Users in custom groups who don't have user accounts)" ? and what about the comment above the code, is it appropriate?
2007-12-22T23:25:15 * rafael asks ThomasWaldmann for the logs
2007-12-22T23:25:48 <dreimark> you have to add a comment too. It's not precise enough.
2007-12-22T23:25:51 <dreimark> bolekk:
2007-12-22T23:27:31 <bolekk> ok but I am afraid i don't understand the whole idea. you can create groups for wiki pages yes? and this macro does what ?
2007-12-22T23:29:07 <bolekk> dreimark: what's the connection between users and pages here ?
2007-12-22T23:29:56 * bolekk is confused
2007-12-22T23:31:41 <dreimark> bolekk: you know you can setup acls ?
2007-12-22T23:32:12 <ernestas> xorAxAx, should KlasseHjemmeside (CategoryHomepage I believe) be renamed too? Or should it be left as it is?
2007-12-22T23:33:05 <dreimark> bolekk: you can list on pages users and you can use these pages to gain acl rights
2007-12-22T23:33:49 <bolekk> yes
2007-12-22T23:35:04 <bolekk> dreimark: and this macro finds users that are listed somewhere but do not exist ?
2007-12-22T23:37:06 <dreimark> to be exact it does find items on the page and if you know in your wiki which are the pages to group users you know those items are users
2007-12-22T23:37:11 <dreimark> and they don't exist
2007-12-22T23:38:09 <dreimark> it is a "bad" style to protect a wiki and do setup users only in group pages
2007-12-22T23:38:26 <dreimark> but it could happen easily by typos
2007-12-22T23:39:18 <dreimark> bbl
2007-12-22T23:39:29 <bolekk> dreimark: hmmm so the table in my wiki should list pages that do not exist ? but they do exist ...
2007-12-22T23:39:38 <dreimark> no
2007-12-22T23:40:59 <dreimark> it lists pages defined as Group Pages and it checks if items are users
2007-12-22T23:41:10 <dreimark> if they don't be users they are listed
2007-12-22T23:41:51 <dreimark> bolekk: AllPagesWithACL lists all pages with acls
2007-12-22T23:43:03 <dreimark> MoinPagesEditorGroup is a Group page on master.moinmo.in which gives people those rights listed there
2007-12-22T23:44:11 <dreimark> if you add now a MoinPagesEditorGroup page on your testwiki and add a user there then
2007-12-22T23:44:29 <dreimark> this page exists and if the user is not created then it is listed too
2007-12-22T23:44:58 <dreimark> I like to go home now, eat something and then I will be back, bbl now
2007-12-22T23:46:36 <bolekk> ok, thanks for your help :) i'll try to change this comment
2007-12-22T23:47:24 <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: see RecentChanges
2007-12-22T23:52:34 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, could you please review my changes and update underlay.tar.bz2?
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