2007-12-26T00:07:17 * cb22 adds another comment to the page
2007-12-26T00:08:56 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: the hcard stuff has still issues?
2007-12-26T00:19:58 <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: dreimark seems to be away, can you give me a short update on your status?
2007-12-26T00:32:14 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, looks like i have to try it myself
2007-12-26T00:38:30 <cb22> gn all
2007-12-26T00:40:35 <ThomasWaldmann> gn cb22
2007-12-26T07:50:35 <kikka> moin
2007-12-26T08:05:13 <kikka> See you @ 24c3.
2007-12-26T09:21:55 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-12-26T10:39:36 <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: well, it works and i ordered the code now but i have still problems to port the self.request.write(..) stuff to DataWidgetBrowser
2007-12-26T10:41:41 <rafael> see my question to dreimark yesterday evening "how to put stuff like strong text in the tablerow"
2007-12-26T10:49:31 * cb22 updates wikipedia's page on moin to 1.6
2007-12-26T10:57:20 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: doesnt the moin.py command mentioned in #92 already give usage details?
2007-12-26T10:57:41 <cb22> and AFAIK most of the scripts do too
2007-12-26T11:03:52 <dreimark> moin
2007-12-26T11:07:13 <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: not sure if DBW makes sense for h/vcard
2007-12-26T11:07:56 <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: i don't know really how to use it so i cannot really decide this
2007-12-26T11:08:39 <dreimark> rafael: I am happy if the hcard and vcard parser do work with your table implementations
2007-12-26T11:09:30 <rafael> dreimark: so stay on self.request.write?
2007-12-26T11:09:54 <dreimark> if it does work, yes.
2007-12-26T11:10:08 <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: if you dont already do, emit some divs/spans with some classes, so one can use css to style
2007-12-26T11:10:41 <ThomasWaldmann> and check the licensing stuff, maybe talk with author about gpl compatible apache2 license
2007-12-26T11:11:16 <rafael> gpl 3 is apache2 compatible afaik
2007-12-26T11:11:44 <rafael> now a question for the unittests, how can i see example text/plain formatted stuff?
2007-12-26T11:15:10 <dreimark> print ?
2007-12-26T11:21:59 <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: try to complete your task ASAP, it's long overdue
2007-12-26T11:26:54 <ThomasWaldmann> cu from 24c3
2007-12-26T11:27:14 <dreimark> have a nice trip
2007-12-26T11:45:38 * cb22 looks for another task to claim
2007-12-26T11:47:23 <rafael> dreimark: do you think additional fields that you define on your own should be printed?
2007-12-26T11:58:31 <rafael> dreimark: what do you mean with print?
2007-12-26T11:59:27 <dreimark> rafael: you asked about seeing an example of text/plain formatted stuff, I do use print for that case
2007-12-26T12:00:18 <rafael> dreimark: how? i mean if i look in the wiki src i only have the attachment links
2007-12-26T12:01:52 <dreimark> ah, ok ( I thought you were telling about tests)
2007-12-26T12:03:11 <rafael> dreimark: yes, but as first i must look how the assert arguments must look like
2007-12-26T12:04:01 <xorAxAx> rafael: just assert something
2007-12-26T12:05:46 <rafael> xorAxAx: but it must be the correct table structure
2007-12-26T12:05:52 <rafael> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17703 is it at the moment
2007-12-26T12:06:09 <dreimark> I have no opinion about printing of additional fields
2007-12-26T12:06:43 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, I have posted a comment in the Discussion section on the TWikiDrawOnDebian bug.
2007-12-26T12:07:27 <dreimark> have to leave (christmas party), bbl
2007-12-26T12:11:16 <rafael> xorAxAx: hm?
2007-12-26T12:11:26 <xorAxAx> rafael: just assert something
2007-12-26T12:11:44 <rafael> xorAxAx: but that's not a correct test or what do you mean?
2007-12-26T12:13:58 <ernestas> moin xorAxAx
2007-12-26T12:13:59 <rafael> xorAxAx: and linked me to a macro who is formatting the datetime stuff.. which one was that?
2007-12-26T12:14:04 <xorAxAx> rafael: it will be a failing test
2007-12-26T12:14:11 <xorAxAx> rafael: and failing tests are good
2007-12-26T12:14:22 <xorAxAx> because a test doesnt make sense if it didnt fail at least once
2007-12-26T12:14:23 <rafael> xorAxAx: ?
2007-12-26T12:14:37 <xorAxAx> and then you can start to make the test working
2007-12-26T12:14:42 <xorAxAx> moin ernestas
2007-12-26T12:15:04 <rafael> if i just assert 'something' it'll always fail
2007-12-26T12:15:16 <xorAxAx> thats why you fix it afterwards *sigh*
2007-12-26T12:15:28 <xorAxAx> just do it *grr*
2007-12-26T12:18:33 <rafael> xorAxAx: done. and now how to fix it?
2007-12-26T12:23:59 <xorAxAx> rafael: by looking at the test failure?
2007-12-26T12:25:36 <rafael> xorAxAx: it passed.. but i want a "real" assert for testing the correct table structure
2007-12-26T12:28:06 <xorAxAx> why did it pass?
2007-12-26T12:28:10 <xorAxAx> show your code
2007-12-26T12:32:09 <rafael> xorAxAx: because i just made assert 'smth' like you said..
2007-12-26T12:32:24 <xorAxAx> rafael: oh, well -- assert result = 'smth'
2007-12-26T12:32:29 <xorAxAx> == even
2007-12-26T12:32:46 <xorAxAx> dont forget - you need a failing test first because anything else makes sense
2007-12-26T12:32:56 <xorAxAx> s/because/before/
2007-12-26T12:34:16 <rafael> xorAxAx: ok, now they fail
2007-12-26T12:35:52 <rafael> xorAxAx: but the result contains u'KeyTypeValue*Name*//Me Moi'. is that the text/plain formatted stuff? doesn't really look like a table
2007-12-26T12:36:59 <xorAxAx> so?
2007-12-26T12:37:48 <rafael> i don't recognize one
2007-12-26T12:38:01 <xorAxAx> yes, you are right. so what? :)
2007-12-26T12:40:28 * cb22 claims #92
2007-12-26T12:42:20 <rafael> xorAxAx: how can i get the table structure?
2007-12-26T12:44:56 <xorAxAx> rafael: thats not possible without modifying the formatter
2007-12-26T12:45:04 <xorAxAx> but i am not sure if it is completly necessary
2007-12-26T12:49:08 <rafael> xorAxAx: so how can i even write the tests then?
2007-12-26T12:51:45 * xorAxAx handles #92
2007-12-26T12:51:52 <xorAxAx> rafael: i think the current way is fine
2007-12-26T12:53:19 <rafael> xorAxAx: you mean that the test should fail?
2007-12-26T12:53:31 <xorAxAx> rafael: no!
2007-12-26T12:53:48 <xorAxAx> rafael: the current amount of output generated by the formatter is fine for unittesting
2007-12-26T12:56:06 <rafael> xorAxAx: but i think the output is strange..
2007-12-26T12:56:36 <xorAxAx> so?
2007-12-26T12:58:28 <rafael> xorAxAx: well, if the wiki source would be a table with one row of the form || key || type || value ||, how can i check this with something like u'KeyTypeValue*Name*//Me Moi' ?
2007-12-26T12:58:38 <xorAxAx> ?
2007-12-26T12:58:51 <xorAxAx> how is this related to the wiki source?
2007-12-26T12:59:35 <rafael> there is only the attachement link
2007-12-26T13:01:19 <rafael> but in html it is a table (self-written) like: <table><th><td>Key</td><td>Type</td><td>Value</td></th><tr><td>Name</td><td></td><td>Me Moi</td></tr></table>
2007-12-26T13:03:15 <rafael> xorAxAx: ie. it would be || Key || Type || Value ||\n|| Name || || Me Moi ||
2007-12-26T13:05:58 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann, and what if the bug reporters are not going to respond at all? Who knows when they are going to do that...
2007-12-26T13:08:06 <ernestas> It's Christmas, then it will be the New Year... I don't think they will respond in that period...
2007-12-26T13:11:28 <rafael> xorAxAx: idea?
2007-12-26T13:11:44 <ernestas> I think at the time they will (if they will at all) respond, the moin 1.6 debian package will be in the stable tree or so... eh.
2007-12-26T13:14:47 * ernestas looks at never_ever_give_up_frog.jpg
2007-12-26T13:29:08 <ernestas> yeah, I like this frog. :) So what about the bug?
2007-12-26T14:15:31 <rafael> xorAxAx: ?
2007-12-26T14:58:28 <ernestas> rafael, it's Christmas, you know...
2007-12-26T14:59:19 <ernestas> ok, bbl
2007-12-26T16:52:07 * ernestas is looking for ThomasWaldmann
2007-12-26T16:52:55 <ernestas> well, it seems today is not the right day for that ;)
2007-12-26T17:02:51 <theredmonkey> moin
2007-12-26T17:05:51 <ernestas> moin
2007-12-26T17:45:46 <xorAxAx> ernestas: for which reason?
2007-12-26T17:45:49 <xorAxAx> just ask :)
2007-12-26T17:46:07 <ernestas> issue #39
2007-12-26T17:46:28 <ernestas> xorAxAx, the TWikiDrawOnDebian bug.
2007-12-26T17:47:08 <xorAxAx> ernestas: i dont see a pending question there
2007-12-26T17:47:17 <ernestas> eh?
2007-12-26T17:47:24 <ernestas> under Discussion
2007-12-26T17:47:32 <xorAxAx> ernestas: what is your question?
2007-12-26T17:47:39 <ernestas> wait a sec
2007-12-26T17:48:20 <ernestas> "Can you still reproduce this error? Could you give me some more details about your client? I have been trying to reproduce this bug on debian with latest (from testing) moin 1.5.8, but I could not reproduce it. Can you try to do this and tell if the bug still exists? If yes, don't forget to post more details about your client/server and also what software is used! -- ErnestasLiubarskij"
2007-12-26T17:48:39 <ernestas> I have posted it tomorrow morning
2007-12-26T17:49:01 <TheSheep> time machine?
2007-12-26T17:49:14 <ernestas> eh?
2007-12-26T17:49:20 <ernestas> today, sorry
2007-12-26T17:49:21 <ernestas> :))
2007-12-26T17:49:30 <TheSheep> :)
2007-12-26T17:50:17 <xorAxAx> ernestas: you mean there has been news in the bug report?
2007-12-26T17:50:31 <ernestas> no, there weren't
2007-12-26T17:50:41 <xorAxAx> so, whats the question? :)
2007-12-26T17:50:57 <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann has posted in the issue that I have to ask the bug reporters if they still see this issue
2007-12-26T17:51:04 <ernestas> *this bug
2007-12-26T17:52:27 <ernestas> so... I have done that :) but I don't expect the response to come this year...
2007-12-26T17:55:49 <dreimark> moin
2007-12-26T17:55:54 <ernestas> moin dreimark
2007-12-26T17:56:14 <dreimark> ernestas: ThomasWaldmann is going to Berlin today
2007-12-26T17:56:24 <ernestas> 00o
2007-12-26T17:56:57 <dreimark> I think he will be online in the evening
2007-12-26T17:57:06 <ernestas> ok...
2007-12-26T17:58:55 <xorAxAx> ernestas: yes, thats pretty likely
2007-12-26T17:59:36 <xorAxAx> i mean its unlikely that there will be an answer
2007-12-26T18:00:07 <ernestas> xorAxAx, yeah, so I don't really know what should I do now
2007-12-26T18:00:12 <dreimark> xorAxAx: do you know the nick of timcera ?
2007-12-26T18:00:31 <ernestas> the bug is 2 years old, btw
2007-12-26T18:00:33 <xorAxAx> no
2007-12-26T18:00:56 <dreimark> xorAxAx: it isn't tic or ?
2007-12-26T18:01:03 <xorAxAx> ernestas: it might make sense to close it and wait for some user reaction that clarifies the complete envirnment
2007-12-26T18:01:25 <xorAxAx> tic has a swedish ip, dont think so
2007-12-26T18:02:00 <ernestas> ok. I can do that and link to my screenshot and say that if the bug still can be reproduced, it should be reopened, right?
2007-12-26T18:03:01 <xorAxAx> yes
2007-12-26T18:03:13 <ernestas> all right, I'll do that in a moment
2007-12-26T18:05:06 <ernestas> xorAxAx, what category should I assign it to?
2007-12-26T18:06:19 <xorAxAx> back in the old days, moin had more usable categories until somebody called t. purged them. how about the nobug one?
2007-12-26T18:09:28 <ernestas> ok
2007-12-26T18:10:02 <ernestas> It would be NEEDINFO or similar in bugzies ;)
2007-12-26T18:14:25 <xorAxAx> yes
2007-12-26T18:14:41 <xorAxAx> but on the other hand, you couldnt reproduce the bug
2007-12-26T18:18:22 <ernestas> xorAxAx, what should I say in the comments on the issue? I'm going to write "I have requested more details in the bug under the Discussion section. I have closed the bug for now. It should be reopened, if it can still be reproduced." Is that all what is needed?
2007-12-26T18:18:56 <xorAxAx> ernestas: yes, but one question: does the debian package bundle twikidraw?
2007-12-26T18:19:01 <ernestas> no
2007-12-26T18:19:13 <xorAxAx> ok, like it was in the old days ...
2007-12-26T18:19:17 <xorAxAx> ernestas: then its fine
2007-12-26T18:19:20 <ernestas> I have downloaded it from http://moinmo.in/OliverGraf/TWikiDrawPlugin (md5sum is the same as in the bug).
2007-12-26T18:20:37 <ernestas> xorAxAx, there's a note in the plugin directory in the README that it can be foud <link>. But that link is not working...
2007-12-26T18:20:44 <xorAxAx> ok
2007-12-26T18:20:53 <xorAxAx> thats not our issue
2007-12-26T18:22:08 <ernestas> ok, I have assigned the bug to NoBug and posted a comment on the bug and on the issue.
2007-12-26T18:22:52 <ernestas> I have subscribed to the bug, so I'll handle it if there's any new information
2007-12-26T18:24:29 <xorAxAx> cool
2007-12-26T18:26:25 <dreimark> :)
2007-12-26T18:31:59 <ernestas> anyone has tryed CentOS? Could it be functional a replacement for windows?
2007-12-26T18:32:33 <dreimark> ernestas: please use the attachment: syntax as replacement for the url
2007-12-26T18:32:46 <ernestas> dreimark, I wanted to ask how to do that :)
2007-12-26T18:32:57 <ernestas> if the attachement is on another page
2007-12-26T18:33:07 <ernestas> or should I add it to that page?
2007-12-26T18:33:40 <dreimark> [[attachment:OtherPage/file.ext]] and adding to the page makes sense too
2007-12-26T18:34:20 <ernestas> ok, I'll add it to the bug's page and insert using attachement
2007-12-26T18:34:27 <dreimark> :)
2007-12-26T18:36:26 <ernestas> Oh, I see that I can use the 'move' function. that's good :)
2007-12-26T18:38:27 <dreimark> sure
2007-12-26T18:40:11 <ernestas> I've replaced the link
2007-12-26T18:41:08 <dreimark> thanks :)
2007-12-26T18:41:36 <ernestas> you are welcome :)
2007-12-26T18:42:38 <ernestas> the best is that I'm learning lots of new things while doing the tasks
2007-12-26T18:44:55 <xorAxAx> hehe
2007-12-26T18:47:07 <ernestas> I have never used any wiki before, btw ;) And my friends have even never heard about it and now they have (minimal) experience with it.
2007-12-26T18:48:00 <ernestas> and that's all because of those tasks...
2007-12-26T18:48:21 <xorAxAx> hehe
2007-12-26T18:48:32 <xorAxAx> yeah, thats some kind of success :)
2007-12-26T19:10:20 <dreimark> bbl
2007-12-26T19:27:10 <rafael> hm, the hcard parser base sucks and now i must hack a lot around it
2007-12-26T19:47:29 * rafael updated issue #58
2007-12-26T19:53:24 <ernestas> good bye
2007-12-26T21:40:07 <dreimark> rafael: ping
2007-12-26T21:40:41 <rafael> dreimark:
2007-12-26T21:40:49 <rafael> my version is almost working :)
2007-12-26T21:41:03 <rafael> (i mean not the "old" in my latest comment)
2007-12-26T21:41:10 <rafael> btw, pong *g*
2007-12-26T21:41:20 <dreimark> ah, fine, so I do wait
2007-12-26T21:52:59 <rafael> dreimark: updated.
2007-12-26T21:53:05 <kikka> Good Evening from 24c3
2007-12-26T21:53:25 <rafael> ahoi kikka
2007-12-26T21:53:28 <rafael> and what's up there?
2007-12-26T21:57:22 <kikka> toomuch
2007-12-26T22:00:02 <rafael> hehe
2007-12-26T22:04:29 <dreimark> will read
2007-12-26T22:07:06 <dreimark> kikka: did you worked on the report ?
2007-12-26T22:14:46 <dreimark> rafael: my output of your last test is http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17770/
2007-12-26T22:18:54 <rafael> dreimark: ah, es.. there is an update in the naming which i don't updated there. but that's from minor priority
2007-12-26T22:24:13 <dreimark> hmm, what is the problem with the unit test
2007-12-26T22:27:08 <rafael> dreimark: http://example.org/ is there always and no image link..
2007-12-26T22:34:45 <dreimark> you mean None for image link ?
2007-12-26T22:38:00 <kikka> dreimark, no, later ;(
2007-12-26T22:39:17 <rafael> dreimark: yes
2007-12-26T22:41:09 <dreimark> rafael: seems text_plain does not support url with links
2007-12-26T22:44:10 <dreimark> rafael: see http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/TextPlainFormatterRewrite
2007-12-26T22:45:30 <rafael> dreimark: is there a rst formatter or something?
2007-12-26T22:46:15 <dreimark> rafael: rst will need additional libs. I guess we will update this formatter
2007-12-26T22:46:35 <rafael> dreimark: so i can't write the unittests yet?
2007-12-26T22:46:48 <dreimark> not all
2007-12-26T22:49:33 <rafael> dreimark: but the stuff i can test with it is already tested
2007-12-26T22:50:13 <dreimark> if you use text_html it is shown as http://paste.pocoo.org/show/17777/
2007-12-26T22:52:18 <rafael> dreimark: ok, that's a solution. how to use it? just change text_plain.formatter to text_html.HTMLFormatter?
2007-12-26T22:52:37 <dreimark> right
2007-12-26T22:53:35 <dreimark> from MoinMoin.formatter.text_html import Formatte
2007-12-26T22:53:39 <dreimark> r
2007-12-26T23:17:27 <rafael> dreimark: anything else with my code? what does thomas mean with don't use this like break (see discussion to issue)
2007-12-26T23:17:33 <rafael> bbl
2007-12-26T23:26:07 <dreimark> rafael: result.append((fmt.url(1, 'mailto:%s' % value.\
2007-12-26T23:26:55 <dreimark> don't break at .method
2007-12-26T23:27:14 <dreimark> do it at the next comma
2007-12-26T23:27:41 <dreimark> result.append((fmt.url(1, 'mailto:%s' % value.strip('mailto:'),
2007-12-26T23:29:24 <dreimark> and you don't need the \ in zjat case
2007-12-26T23:29:59 <dreimark> s/zjat/that/
2007-12-26T23:30:20 <dreimark> or the previous comma
2007-12-26T23:30:42 <dreimark> rafael:
2007-12-26T23:33:16 <dreimark> if you use python.vim from http://moinmo.in/CodingStyle
2007-12-26T23:33:28 <dreimark> you will find blanks and missing blanks
2007-12-26T23:34:22 <rafael> dreimark: how to use it? :so python.vim ?
2007-12-26T23:35:02 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2007-12-26T23:35:14 <cb22> hello ThomasWaldmann
2007-12-26T23:35:28 <dreimark> rafael: /usr/share/vim/vim70/syntax/python.vim
2007-12-26T23:35:30 <cb22> could you tell me if my understanding of http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/detail?id=92 is correct?
2007-12-26T23:35:58 <dreimark> wb ThomasWaldmann
2007-12-26T23:36:03 <dreimark> how was the trip?
2007-12-26T23:36:36 <dreimark> rafael: man vim
2007-12-26T23:37:02 <rafael> dreimark: ah, as syntax file
2007-12-26T23:37:35 <ThomasWaldmann> not with the ICE (due to an accident), but OK
2007-12-26T23:38:11 <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: dreimark: are you working on closing the task?
2007-12-26T23:38:29 <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: yes, see the update(s)
2007-12-26T23:38:58 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes
2007-12-26T23:39:20 <dreimark> and ernestas got reply from TimRiker
2007-12-26T23:39:33 <dreimark> at http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/diff/MoinMoinBugs/TWikiDrawOnDebian
2007-12-26T23:39:45 <dreimark> so I think we can close this one too
2007-12-26T23:39:58 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2007-12-26T23:40:52 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, unittests are not formally required in the task. I suggest rafael gets to an end now as he is far over time.
2007-12-26T23:41:23 <rafael> :) i tested a lot of stuff manually that worked..
2007-12-26T23:41:30 <dreimark> fine
2007-12-26T23:41:42 <dreimark> rafael: add a last version please
2007-12-26T23:41:56 <rafael> dreimark: yes, atm i'm checking it with python.vim
2007-12-26T23:42:04 <dreimark> ok
2007-12-26T23:42:27 <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: if len(value) >= 19 and value[4] == '-' and value[7] == \ <- there's no error marked for this, but you found it dirty
2007-12-26T23:42:57 <ThomasWaldmann> breaking lines with \ should be avoided
2007-12-26T23:43:12 <rafael> how else?
2007-12-26T23:43:42 <ThomasWaldmann> if the line is not extremely long, you dont need to break it at all
2007-12-26T23:44:00 <ThomasWaldmann> if it is, you can use ()
2007-12-26T23:44:59 <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: alright. i made it like this because it is exactly so in macro.__init__.__getDate
2007-12-26T23:45:12 <dreimark> rafael: the code should always be readable
2007-12-26T23:47:12 <rafael> yes. should i add some object references to text_x_hcard.parse?
2007-12-26T23:49:00 <dreimark> rafael: I meant the line breaks. please hurry, it needs to be today on the issue tracker
2007-12-26T23:51:54 <rafael> dreimark: is up. should i create a hg patch or something?
2007-12-26T23:52:02 <dreimark> yeah
2007-12-26T23:52:28 <theredmonkey> good night
2007-12-26T23:55:37 <rafael> dreimark: what's with the license issue?
2007-12-26T23:55:49 <dreimark> add a comment
2007-12-26T23:56:15 <rafael> dreimark: containing?
2007-12-26T23:56:38 <dreimark> rafael: just add that it is "pending - you wait for an answer"
2007-12-26T23:57:24 <dreimark> ok, both parsers tested I close your issue
2007-12-26T23:58:08 <rafael> dreimark: eh. i'm irritated. source code comment or issue tracker comment
2007-12-26T23:59:15 <dreimark> issue
2007-12-26T23:59:35 <dreimark> I have closed 1 min before next day, you can still write MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2007-12-26 (last edited 2007-12-25 23:15:01 by IrcLogImporter)
