MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-02

2008-01-02T00:00:35  <YoniWiz> ahahahha brainwashing party. nice nice
2008-01-02T00:00:56  <YoniWiz> but for that you guys will pick a really hard task not an "easy" labeled one, right?
2008-01-02T00:01:22  <xorAxAx> a rough measure is the number of finished tasks
2008-01-02T00:01:49  <xorAxAx> we will also look at quality and passion
2008-01-02T00:01:51  <xorAxAx> :-)
2008-01-02T00:01:55  <YoniWiz> :-) cool
2008-01-02T00:02:13  <YoniWiz> what did you mean about a rough measure is the # of tasks finished?
2008-01-02T00:02:34  <cb22> ooh, brainwashing paries
2008-01-02T00:02:48  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: well, a student usually finishes more than one task
2008-01-02T00:02:48  <YoniWiz> cb22: heheh yeahhh!!!!
2008-01-02T00:02:56  <cb22> those are always fun ^-^
2008-01-02T00:02:57  <xorAxAx> some already finished a few of them
2008-01-02T00:03:13  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: ohh right, I suppose that would be an advantage for doing most of the tasks with one group
2008-01-02T00:03:32  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: yep, unfortunately :-(
2008-01-02T00:03:34  <YoniWiz> it still counts for your tasks finished if your tasks are all with different groups though, right?
2008-01-02T00:03:43  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: imagine somebody who translated all 10 projects into bengali or esperanto
2008-01-02T00:04:02  <xorAxAx> and did really well at that - he wont have a chance to get to the brainwashing event
2008-01-02T00:04:04  <YoniWiz> hahahahah yeah... that would be realllyy hard to do
2008-01-02T00:04:08  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: yes, of course
2008-01-02T00:04:08  <YoniWiz> ahahhahahahah
2008-01-02T00:04:13  <YoniWiz> he wont have a chance?!?! nice
2008-01-02T00:04:32  <xorAxAx> yes, because the projects conclude that he only did one task
2008-01-02T00:04:42  <xorAxAx> even though he did 10 of them well - for different projects
2008-01-02T00:05:24  <YoniWiz> oh... like he did them for different companies so they each wont nominate him?
2008-01-02T00:05:34  <YoniWiz> but he can still get like... 300 dollars right?
2008-01-02T00:05:35  <cb22> although for code tasks, moving between projects is kinda icky
2008-01-02T00:05:45  <YoniWiz> cause he did 3 sets of 3 tasks (plus one)
2008-01-02T00:06:05  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: yes, the money but no washing
2008-01-02T00:06:10  <xorAxAx> cb22: yep
2008-01-02T00:06:13  <YoniWiz> heheh right on
2008-01-02T00:06:36  <YoniWiz> if you are someone who doesnt know how to code (which I dont at alll!) its really hard to stick with one company
2008-01-02T00:06:54  <cb22> hmm... maybe ive been staring at my screen for too long...
2008-01-02T00:07:08  <cb22> but it appears that everything goes fuzzy, and then returns to normal whenm i click something
2008-01-02T00:07:26  <YoniWiz> ahahahah eeekk
2008-01-02T00:07:41  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: we are not companies :)
2008-01-02T00:07:47  <YoniWiz> organizations sorry
2008-01-02T00:07:50  <YoniWiz> projects
2008-01-02T00:08:20  <kikka> So, I've packed all my content into 2000 words - how great
2008-01-02T00:09:18  <rafael> multiplicate it with 5 and you're done :)
2008-01-02T00:09:45  <kikka> Haha.
2008-01-02T00:09:54  <kikka> I could extend the intervie
2008-01-02T00:09:55  <kikka> w
2008-01-02T00:13:20  <cb22> xorAxAx: btw, as a suggestion for a task, how about FeatureRequests/DumpPagesIntoZip
2008-01-02T00:13:49  <xorAxAx> that remotely sounds like a task that you did, whats different? (didnt look at the page) :)
2008-01-02T00:14:01  <cb22> it is already in CategoryEasy
2008-01-02T00:14:11  <kikka> xoeAxAx, please reopen the task, I'll chose a other one. (also from moin ;))
2008-01-02T00:14:34  <xorAxAx> kikka: please post that as a comment
2008-01-02T00:14:39  <cb22> argh, lag
2008-01-02T00:14:55  <xorAxAx> cb22: hmm
2008-01-02T00:14:59  <cb22> xorAxAx: it is sorta the same, but in reverse
2008-01-02T00:15:12  <cb22> (i had a PackagePage action, which i made into a script)
2008-01-02T00:15:13  <xorAxAx> reverse?
2008-01-02T00:15:16  <xorAxAx> yes
2008-01-02T00:15:23  <kikka> xorAxAx, okay.
2008-01-02T00:15:34  <cb22> here there is a dump script, which would be made into an action
2008-01-02T00:15:53  <xorAxAx> ah
2008-01-02T00:16:00  <xorAxAx> dump as in moin dump, ok
2008-01-02T00:16:12  <cb22> yep
2008-01-02T00:16:12  <kikka> done
2008-01-02T00:17:36  <cb22> xorAxAx: btw, how does http://paste.pocoo.org/show/18832/ in reference to my current task
2008-01-02T00:18:15  <cb22> (having a short, copyright docstring for the module, and a long, full explanation for the class)
2008-01-02T00:18:38  <xorAxAx> makes sense
2008-01-02T00:19:08  <YoniWiz> ping: ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-02T00:22:04  <kikka> Hm, ich bleib mal hier, vllt. gefaellt mir ja ein Task von euch noch ;)
2008-01-02T00:22:40  <xorAxAx> kikka: you can also suggest new tasks
2008-01-02T00:22:44  <xorAxAx> see MoinMoin:EasyToDo
2008-01-02T00:23:23  <kikka> xorAxAx, oh, I think about tha.t
2008-01-02T00:43:21  <YoniWiz> ping: xorAxAx
2008-01-02T00:43:28  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: pong
2008-01-02T00:43:40  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: are there other posters I can do?
2008-01-02T00:43:52  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: or graphically oriented tasks
2008-01-02T00:44:09  <YoniWiz> (they dont need to be for google credit I am just looking for something to do)
2008-01-02T00:46:00  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-01-02T00:47:51  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: well, do you know any other graphic work that is related to software projects in general?
2008-01-02T00:48:01  <xorAxAx> i can think of a splash screen, but moin is a webapp
2008-01-02T00:48:26  <xorAxAx> also there is generally theming related work - like designing/customizing icon sets
2008-01-02T00:48:46  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: I dunno... i've never done anything like this for software projects before GHOP
2008-01-02T00:48:55  <YoniWiz> does moin use icons when you download it?
2008-01-02T00:49:07  <YoniWiz> you dont really even need to download it
2008-01-02T00:49:14  <cb22> just a randomly cool thought at 2am: wouldnt it be cool if you could select text in your browser on a moin site, then double click on it, and it would automagically change into an edit box using ajax / whatever
2008-01-02T00:49:24  <YoniWiz> u can
2008-01-02T00:49:27  <YoniWiz> hahahahha
2008-01-02T00:49:37  <YoniWiz> its called "double click to edit"
2008-01-02T00:49:50  <YoniWiz> its an option when you sign up under user preferences
2008-01-02T00:49:52  <YoniWiz> i think
2008-01-02T00:50:51  <xorAxAx> yes, indeed. thats nearly what he said - besides the "magically" and "ajax" part (which oculd give you at least some jump to cursor feature)
2008-01-02T00:51:21  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: yes, just have a look at the wiki/modern/img folder after downloading moin
2008-01-02T00:51:23  <cb22> yes, the magic part is a must ;)
2008-01-02T00:51:56  <cb22> although i never noticed the double click to eidit bit - thanks yoni
2008-01-02T00:52:01  <YoniWiz> well i dunno what ajax is and i am not good with maggic
2008-01-02T00:52:08  <YoniWiz> and no problem
2008-01-02T00:52:45  * cb22 notices his cognative abality slipping
2008-01-02T00:52:56  <cb22> i cant even use tab correctly :p
2008-01-02T00:58:31  <cb22> xorAxAx: do you know of an easy way to kill extra whitespace?
2008-01-02T00:58:51  <xorAxAx> in .py files?
2008-01-02T00:59:02  <cb22> yep
2008-01-02T00:59:10  <xorAxAx> i think the pep8.py module can do that
2008-01-02T00:59:22  * cb22 has a look
2008-01-02T00:59:33  <xorAxAx> (the one shipped with moin)
2008-01-02T01:00:03  <kikka> Hm, the german update tasks sounds good. but, i'll wait.
2008-01-02T01:01:01  <cb22> hehehe, pep8.py breaks one rule of pep8.py :)
2008-01-02T01:26:06  * cb22 updates #92 and does a import sleep
2008-01-02T01:26:08  <cb22> night all
2008-01-02T01:27:44  <xorAxAx> good night cb22
2008-01-02T01:28:36  <kikka> night cb22
2008-01-02T01:55:20  <YoniWiz> ping: ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-02T01:57:41  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx:
2008-01-02T01:57:49  <YoniWiz> sorry I hit enter my mistake
2008-01-02T01:58:03  <YoniWiz> anyway what time zone are you? like how much + or - GMT
2008-01-02T02:00:00  <veerz> YoniWiz: gmt +1 or 2 I guess :)
2008-01-02T02:00:23  <YoniWiz> for him or you?
2008-01-02T02:00:41  <veerz> both
2008-01-02T02:02:55  <kikka> Germany.
2008-01-02T02:02:57  <kikka> ;)
2008-01-02T02:03:04  <kikka> Here it is 02:03
2008-01-02T02:03:15  <YoniWiz> oh wowww
2008-01-02T02:03:19  <YoniWiz> liike AM?
2008-01-02T02:03:44  <kikka> I think so, yeah.
2008-01-02T02:03:48  <kikka> Not 14:03
2008-01-02T02:03:48  <TheSheep> :)
2008-01-02T02:03:50  <kikka> Not.
2008-01-02T02:04:12  <YoniWiz> ?
2008-01-02T02:04:15  <YoniWiz> not or yes
2008-01-02T02:04:16  <YoniWiz> its like
2008-01-02T02:04:18  <YoniWiz> wow
2008-01-02T02:04:24  <TheSheep> programmers live in a different timezone :)
2008-01-02T02:04:36  <veerz> kikka: do germans have to work today? :)
2008-01-02T02:05:02  <kikka> veerz, on the 2nd? i think so.
2008-01-02T02:05:12  <kikka> But I'm pupil with holidays
2008-01-02T02:05:43  <veerz> heh
2008-01-02T02:10:28  <kikka> =)
2008-01-02T02:48:07  <kikka> n8
2008-01-02T10:59:35  <grzybacz> moin
2008-01-02T11:42:14  <xorAxAx> moin karol
2008-01-02T11:49:27  <grzybacz> hi xorAxAx
2008-01-02T11:50:05  <kikka> Hello!
2008-01-02T11:52:51  <TheSheep> moin
2008-01-02T11:56:30  <kikka> Create a advertised video? As ToDo?
2008-01-02T12:26:47  <ernestas> moin
2008-01-02T12:44:00  <ernestas> guten morgen, dreimark
2008-01-02T12:51:32  <ernestas> I am starting to think that all of you are from Germany
2008-01-02T12:53:33  <kikka> Not all :)
2008-01-02T12:59:01  <TheSheep> ernestas: but close
2008-01-02T12:59:25  <cb22> heh
2008-01-02T13:00:15  <ernestas> hehe. All roads go to Germany. Or how did they in Rome say?
2008-01-02T13:00:55  <cb22> well, with a projeect name like MoinMoin, its no suprise :)
2008-01-02T13:00:57  <TheSheep> all your roads are belong to IT
2008-01-02T13:01:03  <ernestas> :))
2008-01-02T13:16:41  <cb22> just wondering, for my task, do you think it would be better to print out detailed help before or after the command line reference
2008-01-02T13:41:22  <TheSheep> cb22: you usually print the reference first
2008-01-02T13:42:10  <TheSheep> cb22: then the details, then optionally examples
2008-01-02T13:43:48  <cb22> TheSheep: something like http://paste.pocoo.org/show/18920/ ?
2008-01-02T13:44:45  <rafael> where should i put my finished case study to review?
2008-01-02T13:44:59  <TheSheep> rafael: on the wiki?
2008-01-02T13:45:48  <rafael> where there?
2008-01-02T13:46:06  * TheSheep lookas at 'man ls' for a reference
2008-01-02T13:46:23  <ernestas> you can create a subpage in your page like I've done for usability testing task
2008-01-02T13:46:58  <ernestas> *homepage
2008-01-02T13:46:59  <TheSheep> rafael: it can be renamed later
2008-01-02T13:47:12  <TheSheep> rafael: just be bold and think of a good name :)
2008-01-02T13:48:16  <TheSheep> cb22: I'd put the 'purpose' between usage and options, but that's just me
2008-01-02T13:49:54  <rafael> hm, could not create http://moinmo.in/RafaelWeber/CaseStudy :|
2008-01-02T13:49:54  <rafael> afk
2008-01-02T13:50:36  <ernestas> rafael: what is the reason? some error?
2008-01-02T14:26:02  <ThomasWaldmann>  moin
2008-01-02T14:31:25  <cb22> moin TheSheep
2008-01-02T14:31:30  <cb22> bah, premature tabbing
2008-01-02T14:31:34  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann*
2008-01-02T14:35:30  * cb22 slaps himself for being a native speaker of english and not using then / than correctly
2008-01-02T14:36:33  <kikka> Huhu!
2008-01-02T14:36:47  <kikka> ThomasWaldmann, I gave #63 up!
2008-01-02T14:39:27  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: that fault was present before you started
2008-01-02T14:39:40  <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: hmm, why that?
2008-01-02T14:41:04  <kikka> ThomasWaldmann, eeh, to few time, to little informations from the interview. I write it all into 1***Words.
2008-01-02T14:41:33  <kikka> I'll start a new one or such. Or create from to others
2008-01-02T14:41:33  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, ok
2008-01-02T14:42:44  <kikka> Well, I'll start to help by OLPC-Content =)
2008-01-02T14:43:03  <kikka> Do you get your XO-Laptop?
2008-01-02T14:45:31  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ok, updated #92, cleaned a bit
2008-01-02T14:46:52  <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: not yet
2008-01-02T14:48:29  <kikka> Okyy
2008-01-02T14:48:31  <kikka> okay
2008-01-02T15:06:15  <rafael> re
2008-01-02T15:06:21  <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: error 500 on moinmo.in
2008-01-02T15:13:38  <ernestas> error 500. yeah.
2008-01-02T15:14:50  <ernestas> you could replace that error 500 page with someting more user-friendly like "the wiki now is down for maintenance. Please be back in a moment" or so..
2008-01-02T15:15:08  <ernestas> 500 - Internal Server Error is so ugly :)
2008-01-02T15:21:14  <ThomasWaldmann> ernestas: retry
2008-01-02T15:21:52  <ernestas> ThomasWaldmann: it works
2008-01-02T15:25:19  <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: Sorry, can not save page because "cialis" is not allowed in this wiki.
2008-01-02T15:25:40  <rafael> by creating moinmo.in/RafaelWeber/CaseStudy
2008-01-02T15:26:57  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: you need cialis? :)
2008-01-02T15:27:09  <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: in specialists
2008-01-02T15:27:18  <rafael> why is it blocked?
2008-01-02T15:27:24  <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
2008-01-02T15:27:26  * xorAxAx sighs
2008-01-02T15:27:44  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: wait a sec, I fix it
2008-01-02T15:29:50  <kikka> I'm ill & sick. good night.
2008-01-02T15:29:56  * rafael uses "experts" insteead
2008-01-02T15:30:08  * rafael updated #64
2008-01-02T15:30:12  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: retry specialist(s) now
2008-01-02T15:30:46  <cb22> lol @ cialis
2008-01-02T15:30:52  <ernestas> hehe. but what a fun. specialists are not alowed in this wiki. hehe.
2008-01-02T15:31:04  <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: works :)
2008-01-02T15:38:48  <TheSheep> whan an extraviagrant word :)
2008-01-02T15:50:41  <kikka> re.
2008-01-02T15:51:17  <ernestas> kikka: insomnia?
2008-01-02T15:52:28  <kikka> jeah, can't sleep
2008-01-02T15:53:37  <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: ??c3 is a good place to catch a cold...
2008-01-02T15:55:56  <kikka> ThomasWaldmann, yeah, and Silvester also
2008-01-02T16:06:05  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: you got one too?
2008-01-02T16:06:40  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, but already recovering
2008-01-02T16:07:15  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: some epidemic
2008-01-02T16:07:36  <TheSheep> my voice sounds like a 70yo drunkard
2008-01-02T16:11:03  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe some bio weapon of the MI-6
2008-01-02T16:15:07  <TheSheep> withing a week we will lose our insterest in computers and revert to knitting
2008-01-02T16:15:17  <TheSheep> within
2008-01-02T16:15:52  <TheSheep> I used to crotchet a lot
2008-01-02T16:16:25  <kikka> guerilla knitting!"
2008-01-02T16:16:39  <TheSheep> kikka: yeah, that was the subliminal conditioning message
2008-01-02T16:22:35  <ernestas> dreimark: ping
2008-01-02T16:23:22  <ernestas> unless he cought a cold too
2008-01-02T16:55:06  <kikka> Bye.
2008-01-02T16:55:31  <ernestas> kikka: sweat dreams
2008-01-02T16:57:45  <ThomasWaldmann> YoniWiz: are you reading?
2008-01-02T17:03:21  <ThomasWaldmann> (see tracker comment)
2008-01-02T17:11:27  <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: could you please review #64?
2008-01-02T17:16:11  <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: query
2008-01-02T17:34:55  <bolekk> moin
2008-01-02T17:35:09  <rafael> hoi bolekk
2008-01-02T17:35:52  <bolekk> Can anybody tell me how I can view messages printed by log.debug() ?
2008-01-02T17:39:48  <ThomasWaldmann> you need to have an appropriate log level (1.6.0 uses INFO) and look into your log.
2008-01-02T17:43:06  <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: and where can I find my log ?
2008-01-02T17:44:49  <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: I'm talking about the jabber bot, it uses log.info - these are printed in the terminal, and log.debud in some places and I want to look at these...
2008-01-02T17:48:23  <ThomasWaldmann> bolekk: you can set the logPath in your server startup script
2008-01-02T17:48:57  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, not sure about the jabber bot, read the src there :)
2008-01-02T17:50:03  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann, oh, btw i fixed the issues with #92
2008-01-02T19:00:29  <ernestas> moin grzywacz
2008-01-02T19:00:49  <grzywacz> hi ernestas
2008-01-02T19:05:18  <ThomasWaldmann> must go, bbl
2008-01-02T19:17:42  <kikka> moin
2008-01-02T19:19:32  <ernestas> kikka: take a cup of hot tea with some honey and go to sleep again :) no need to sit in front of the computer while you're ill. I don't think you are going to feel better because of that.
2008-01-02T19:20:37  <rafael> "yes, mom" :D
2008-01-02T19:20:46  <ernestas> heh
2008-01-02T19:21:51  <kikka> Can't sleep is worse than sit sleepless
2008-01-02T19:22:23  <ernestas> might be
2008-01-02T19:23:17  <kikka> Jeah.
2008-01-02T19:23:23  <kikka> Tea is a good Idea. :(
2008-01-02T19:23:48  <ernestas> even better with some honey :)
2008-01-02T19:24:16  <kikka> Yeah.
2008-01-02T19:24:26  <kikka> Or a "Heiße Zitrone"
2008-01-02T19:24:48  <ernestas> or bot
2008-01-02T19:24:51  <ernestas> *both
2008-01-02T19:25:19  <ernestas> hehe. a bot in the tea. lol
2008-01-02T19:26:22  <kikka> hihi
2008-01-02T19:31:05  <kikka> Hm, what for a task I'll do next
2008-01-02T19:31:24  <ernestas> english<->german?
2008-01-02T19:34:17  <kikka> Sounds good.
2008-01-02T19:34:30  <kikka> I meet sven braun @ c3 :L)
2008-01-02T20:05:12  <ernestas> gn
2008-01-02T21:05:41  <jbardin> HI all - I'm working on implementing moin1.7 here (I need the auth system), and I was wondering if I could lend a hand with the next release.
2008-01-02T21:08:03  <jbardin> I just pulled from the current branch, and ran into a couple problems with PageGraphicalEditor.py, but I don't think I need to open a bug for some typos.
2008-01-02T21:11:04  <rafael> what about making a diff file and with those typos and inform a core dev?
2008-01-02T21:11:27  <cb22> (which are ThomasWaldmann xorAxAx and dreimark AFAIK)
2008-01-02T21:18:07  <jbardin> I just didn't know which channel they prefer I go through - post to the moin-user list, email them directly, post here, etc... Plus, since I'm pushing this into production ahead of the release, I may be able to help work on some issues to speed up the whole process ;)
2008-01-02T21:21:03  <rafael> i think the irc is the fastest way to reach them
2008-01-02T21:21:04  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: are you still there?
2008-01-02T21:23:32  <ninnnu> He haven't been here for ~2 hours... 20:04 < ThomasWaldmann> must go, bbl
2008-01-02T21:24:35  <YoniWiz> alright thanks
2008-01-02T21:24:44  <YoniWiz> ill read the traker
2008-01-02T21:54:03  <xorAxAx> the users list is not for development :)
2008-01-02T22:45:17  <theredmonkey> moin
2008-01-02T22:48:32  <kikka> hello!
2008-01-02T22:50:20  <kikka> good night
2008-01-02T22:51:13  <xorAxAx> good night christopher
2008-01-02T23:26:07  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: are you there?
2008-01-02T23:26:16  <xorAxAx> yes
2008-01-02T23:26:56  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: is thos. waldmann one of the GHOP people (one of the 3.5)
2008-01-02T23:27:12  <cb22> 3.5 people?
2008-01-02T23:27:25  <YoniWiz> cb22: hahah yes
2008-01-02T23:27:51  <cb22> who's the .5? :)
2008-01-02T23:28:14  <YoniWiz> cb22: dunno. I only know that xorAxAx is one of them :-) the other 2.5 is a mystery
2008-01-02T23:28:35  <cb22> afaik xorAxAx ThomasWaldmann dreimark
2008-01-02T23:29:09  <YoniWiz> oh. well xorAxAx referred to 3.5 people last night
2008-01-02T23:29:11  <YoniWiz> so i dunno
2008-01-02T23:29:44  * cb22 hpes there is not a headless moin team member running around
2008-01-02T23:30:13  <YoniWiz> ahhh i forgot again
2008-01-02T23:30:18  * YoniWiz does something
2008-01-02T23:30:25  * YoniWiz is happy he remembered
2008-01-02T23:31:13  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: his name is thomas, ye
2008-01-02T23:31:14  <xorAxAx> s
2008-01-02T23:32:04  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: thos. is an old-fashioned abbreviation for Thomas
2008-01-02T23:33:23  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: cant find any sources for that fact :)
2008-01-02T23:33:45  <grzywacz> I'm 0.25
2008-01-02T23:33:46  <grzywacz> :P
2008-01-02T23:34:46  <cb22> heh
2008-01-02T23:34:48  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: Thos. is an abbreviation for Thomas.
2008-01-02T23:34:52  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~wewain/Glossary.htm
2008-01-02T23:35:43  <YoniWiz> http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/THOS
2008-01-02T23:35:44  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: the page refers to http://freereg.rootsweb.com/howto/latinnames.htm which doesnt list thos.
2008-01-02T23:35:57  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: i know that was a bad page, the second is better
2008-01-02T23:36:37  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: i sent it hoping you wouldnt track down the full source list as I did and figuring if you did it would at least give me enough time to find a better page :-)
2008-01-02T23:37:02  <xorAxAx> but that hit is invalid as well because thos is not an acronym
2008-01-02T23:37:11  <xorAxAx> :-)
2008-01-02T23:37:43  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: aiiiiii one sec then
2008-01-02T23:38:17  * cb22 gets the odd fealing YoniWiz and xorAxAx have too much free time :p
2008-01-02T23:38:33  <xorAxAx> cb22: hehe
2008-01-02T23:39:06  <xorAxAx> cb22: the point is that the internet doesnt seem to reflect facts well that are not known by younger people :)
2008-01-02T23:39:18  <xorAxAx> +commonly
2008-01-02T23:39:48  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: as in, if this was a new nickname it would be easier to find, but because it's an old-fashioned one I cant find it?
2008-01-02T23:40:09  <cb22> xorAxAx: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thos
2008-01-02T23:40:12  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: yes
2008-01-02T23:40:15  <cb22> problem solved ;)
2008-01-02T23:40:34  <YoniWiz> cb22:  not fair! I want to find it :-D
2008-01-02T23:40:48  <cb22> hehehe
2008-01-02T23:40:55  <YoniWiz> ill find a better one
2008-01-02T23:41:00  <xorAxAx> invalid hit because there is no forward reference
2008-01-02T23:41:19  <xorAxAx> just redirecting is not enough for wikipedias quality standards :)
2008-01-02T23:41:39  <cb22> hehe
2008-01-02T23:42:28  * cb22 looks at the remaining tasks for moin
2008-01-02T23:42:59  * YoniWiz is not satisfied giving up, I will prove myself heheheh
2008-01-02T23:43:07  <YoniWiz> "A few other men's names can be abbreviated.  There's George (Geo.), Thomas (Thos.)"
2008-01-02T23:43:16  <YoniWiz> http://barelybad.com/north_of_canada.htm
2008-01-02T23:43:24  <YoniWiz> again a poor site but its a factual source
2008-01-02T23:43:29  <YoniWiz> even if it is not very reputable
2008-01-02T23:43:34  <xorAxAx> :)
2008-01-02T23:43:37  <rafael> cb22: how many tasks did you claim already?
2008-01-02T23:43:56  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: even better! I looked up thos. in the dictionary and got
2008-01-02T23:43:56  <cb22> rafael: 6 i think
2008-01-02T23:44:00  <rafael> uuh
2008-01-02T23:44:03  <rafael> 200$ ;)
2008-01-02T23:44:05  <YoniWiz> Thos.
2008-01-02T23:44:06  <YoniWiz> abbreviation
2008-01-02T23:44:06  <YoniWiz> Thomas.
2008-01-02T23:44:33  <cb22> rafael: hehe :) going for as many as possibble so i can get myself a eee
2008-01-02T23:44:48  <rafael> cb22: just 3 left
2008-01-02T23:45:45  <cb22> ghop ftw :)
2008-01-02T23:46:21  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: very nice :) i was wondering why m-w requests a fee when trying to look up thos.
2008-01-02T23:46:38  <xorAxAx> rafael: 3?
2008-01-02T23:46:55  <rafael> xorAxAx: 3 tasks = 100$ and it costs only 300$
2008-01-02T23:47:06  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: well i didnt use that dictionary I used the one built into my computer which is oxford american dictionary which aso is not free online
2008-01-02T23:47:10  <xorAxAx> rafael: ah
2008-01-02T23:47:45  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: yeah
2008-01-02T23:47:56  <rafael> xorAxAx: oh no. 300 EUR, don't know the dollar pricing.. and the dollar isn't that good enough for that right now
2008-01-02T23:48:11  <xorAxAx> rafael: $300 is like 30 EUR
2008-01-02T23:48:17  <xorAxAx> or something like that :)
2008-01-02T23:48:30  <rafael> 100$ = 70 EUR or so
2008-01-02T23:48:32  <cb22> hehe
2008-01-02T23:48:33  <cb22> close
2008-01-02T23:48:39  <YoniWiz> here! http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/thos.
2008-01-02T23:48:46  <YoniWiz> with a citable source that is reliable
2008-01-02T23:48:49  <xorAxAx> cool
2008-01-02T23:48:50  <cb22> asus eee 4gb non surf == $399
2008-01-02T23:48:59  * YoniWiz is victorious, yayyy
2008-01-02T23:49:07  <YoniWiz> wow I cant believe i took the time to do that ahah
2008-01-02T23:49:24  <YoniWiz> cb22: i know someone who has an eee
2008-01-02T23:49:54  <cb22> YoniWiz: and? you cant leave me hanging like that!
2008-01-02T23:50:12  <xorAxAx> these eee thingies are battery drainers like hell
2008-01-02T23:50:18  <YoniWiz> cb22:  well what do you want to know, I just saw that you mentioned the ee and thought i would mention it
2008-01-02T23:50:34  <rafael> xorAxAx: btw, time to read my case study? thomas already checked it, but he had to go
2008-01-02T23:50:39  <cb22> hehe, i'm planning on making a mini freebsd distro on it
2008-01-02T23:50:45  <xorAxAx> rafael: tomorrow
2008-01-02T23:50:53  <cb22> s/on/fore
2008-01-02T23:51:02  <xorAxAx> cb22: to defeat all powersaving possibilities?
2008-01-02T23:51:05  <cb22> s/fore/for/
2008-01-02T23:51:08  <rafael> alright
2008-01-02T23:51:29  <YoniWiz> you know what's funny? when you google "GHOP" the first page isn't even a google page!
2008-01-02T23:51:41  <cb22> xorAxAx: powersaving? who needs powersaving when you can have freebsd ;)
2008-01-02T23:51:45  <cb22> and compiz
2008-01-02T23:52:29  <rafael> YoniWiz: first hit here: code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/
2008-01-02T23:53:08  <YoniWiz> rafael: well when I google GHOP the first link is to: groups.drupal.org/ghop-2007
2008-01-02T23:53:24  <YoniWiz> rafael: are you in america?
2008-01-02T23:54:08  <rafael> YoniWiz: no, but i use google.com
2008-01-02T23:54:15  <rafael> same result with google.de
2008-01-02T23:54:37  <xorAxAx> rafael: thats not relevant
2008-01-02T23:54:55  <xorAxAx> imagine chinese users simply replacing the TLD to get the real results ...
2008-01-02T23:55:06  <xorAxAx> google does reliable geoip based filtering
2008-01-02T23:55:14  <rafael> hm yes
2008-01-02T23:55:28  <cb22> scroogle maybe?
2008-01-02T23:55:40  <YoniWiz> whats the TLD
2008-01-02T23:55:46  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: top level domain
2008-01-02T23:55:54  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: like de, in or org
2008-01-02T23:56:37  <cb22> yes, xorAxAx is really a indian spice miner, which is why it is moinmo.in
2008-01-02T23:56:49  <xorAxAx> its thomas domain :)
2008-01-02T23:57:20  <YoniWiz> and so that means that when I go to google.cn and search "tank man" or "tiananmen square" i dont see what people in china see when they search those things on google.cn???
2008-01-02T23:57:34  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: i think so, yes
2008-01-02T23:57:50  <YoniWiz> and xorAxAx, how did you know this about google and geoip filtering? that's really interesting
2008-01-02T23:58:14  <cb22> YoniWiz: its easy to do
2008-01-02T23:58:22  <YoniWiz> ?
2008-01-02T23:58:26  <xorAxAx> YoniWiz: i think i read about it and experienced it
2008-01-02T23:58:52  <cb22> certain countries are allocated blocks of IPs
2008-01-02T23:59:07  <cb22> and if the ip falls within one of those ranges, it is from a certain country
2008-01-02T23:59:28  <cb22> i'm actually using it for my home internet
2008-01-02T23:59:40  <grzywacz> night