MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-06

2008-01-06T01:06:48  <dreimark> gn
2008-01-06T01:09:48  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2008-01-06T01:10:09  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2980:54a6595fd585 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/Makefile: remove 1.5 to 1.6 i18n markup conversion (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T01:10:22  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2981:0b9c89023917 1.7/Makefile: use new master wiki url, master wiki runs 1.6 now (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T01:10:28  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2982:24854dcf16ba 1.7/MoinMoin/search/results.py: Make string 'rev' translateable (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T02:49:57  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2983:7b0aadb97d01 1.7/ (10 files in 7 dirs): new antispam stuff: textchas (text CAPTCHAs), cleanup AttachFile handler (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T04:46:10  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2984:52f9d511f155 1.7/MoinMoin/ (userform/admin.py action/userprofile.py): SystemAdmin user browser: SuperUser now can enable/disable user accounts, new userprofile action (partly a port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T04:53:25  <dreimark> moin
2008-01-06T04:54:02  <ThomasWaldmann> |-)
2008-01-06T05:19:58  * dreimark comments 99
2008-01-06T11:18:51  <dreimark> that help for the moin.py script looks not cmpleted
2008-01-06T11:19:30  <dreimark> we have to add some commands (export packages) on the list
2008-01-06T11:20:18  <dreimark> and index build shows only "Xapian index build script class"
2008-01-06T11:52:08  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-01-06T12:06:48  <dreimark> moin ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-06T12:27:35  <dreimark> bbl ~3h
2008-01-06T15:00:23  <cb22> moin
2008-01-06T15:00:45  <cb22> if i recall correctly, there was some issue stopping the inclusion of themes into a moin dump
2008-01-06T15:01:05  <cb22> what exactly was it?
2008-01-06T15:01:08  <xorAxAx> cb22: yes, moin doesnt know where the css files reside
2008-01-06T15:01:28  <xorAxAx> so it cant "dump" them
2008-01-06T15:01:36  <cb22> ah right
2008-01-06T15:01:47  <cb22> but for an action, wouldnt it be possible?
2008-01-06T15:02:25  <xorAxAx> neither
2008-01-06T15:02:43  <xorAxAx> you can read the discussion i nthe logs
2008-01-06T15:03:03  <cb22> hmm, ok. you have a date for that?
2008-01-06T15:04:02  <xorAxAx> no, but moin has a search facility
2008-01-06T15:04:43  <cb22> ah, so _thats_ what that box is for ;)
2008-01-06T15:04:56  <xorAxAx> hehe
2008-01-06T15:05:09  <xorAxAx> thats usually the sanest way to approach the logs
2008-01-06T15:07:59  <cb22> anyways, at the momemnt 'm busy refactoring / coding things. currently what i've done is create the action DumpPages, basics stolen from CopyPage, and gotten it to the point where i  can create basic dumps :)
2008-01-06T15:09:13  <cb22> there are two functions, createZip and createDir. one writes to a zipfile, and the other to a directory
2008-01-06T15:09:44  <cb22> and i've also added some functionality to dump.py, you can now select which pages to dump by using a search string, like package.py
2008-01-06T15:10:12  <cb22> </update>
2008-01-06T15:11:26  <xorAxAx> umm, PEP8 alert :)
2008-01-06T15:12:10  <cb22> heh, i know i know :)
2008-01-06T15:16:34  <cb22> atm i want to get the exact same output from the new dump vs old dump, and then ill start some cleanup
2008-01-06T15:17:40  <xorAxAx> makes sense
2008-01-06T16:33:13  <cb22> hmm
2008-01-06T16:34:41  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2985:af66750c66e4 1.7/MoinMoin/ (auth/ldap_login.py config/multiconfig.py): don't overwrite email in userprofile with (empty) email addr from ldap (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:34:43  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2986:d6fb846dc73c 1.7/wiki/server/moin.fcg: use MoinMoin.server for fastcgi, use Config class, fix logging (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:34:45  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2987:c817a9c0d0e5 1.7/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py: navi_bar: highlight correct tab for the current page for i18ned system pages (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:34:47  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2988:1c16c1c3349e 1.7/MoinMoin/security/antispam.py: use logging module for antispam, not stderr (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:34:49  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2989:c678e73b7730 1.7/MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py: auto-disable xapian_search when xapian fails to import (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:36:06  * dreimark comments 99
2008-01-06T16:36:15  <cb22> is it possible to override something locally in python, if that makes sense?
2008-01-06T16:37:49  <ThomasWaldmann> -v
2008-01-06T16:38:49  <cb22> -v?
2008-01-06T16:39:06  <ThomasWaldmann> you need to be more verbose :)
2008-01-06T16:39:12  <cb22> ah, hehe
2008-01-06T16:39:15  <cb22> well...
2008-01-06T16:41:12  <cb23> the script version of dump.py overrides AttachFile.getAttachUrl
2008-01-06T16:41:31  <cb23> which is fine for it, as it is a simple run once script, with not a care in the world
2008-01-06T16:42:14  <cb23> but if i try to do the same thing in my action, it overrides AttachFile.getAttachUrl for everything
2008-01-06T16:42:46  <cb23> which is not really a good thing
2008-01-06T16:43:21  <xorAxAx> i think you need to change the function then
2008-01-06T16:58:48  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2990:971d8f998160 1.7/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py: fix AttributeError for timing_log (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:58:50  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2991:82ac2b1b1a05 1.7/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py: fix pagename navigation for wikiname_add_spaces == True (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:58:51  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2992:954c617d9f76 1.7/MoinMoin/security/antispam.py: antispam: check edit comments also against BadContent, use builtin frozenset, if possible (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:58:52  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2993:aae2eac0894c 1.7/MoinMoin/support/thfcgi.py: use 'logging' for thfcgi (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:58:59  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2994:bbe70e8ffe62 1.7/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py: make timing log also work for xmlrpc, remove redundant info from timing log (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T16:59:01  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2995:8d4d5795f1f2 1.7/MoinMoin/support/thfcgi.py: thfcgi: improve logging (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T17:12:21  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2996:6a1b18869fe8 1.7/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py: fix for icon bar: do not modify cfg.page_icons_table (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T17:36:53  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2997:c5cc1a0db4b2 1.7/MoinMoin/ (action/newaccount.py userprefs/changepass.py): fix password_checker userform code (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T17:36:58  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2998:158ee5591ebc 1.7/MoinMoin/security/antispam.py: small cosmetical fix to antispam logging (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T17:36:59  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2999:e94b940f3a84 1.7/wiki/server/moin.fcg: add a comment about listen backlog to moin.fcg (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T17:37:00  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3000:344e33587519 1.7/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py: do not show 2 editor links in edit_bar if text editor is forced by admin (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T17:37:01  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3001:ed3e2b220dec 1.7/MoinMoin/action/LikePages.py: LikePages' pagelinks are generated, not real (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T18:07:05  <cb23> ThomasWaldmann, looks like you've been busy!
2008-01-06T18:10:28  <ThomasWaldmann> lots to do still
2008-01-06T18:13:49  <cb23> need a hand? i can 1.7'ify the patches i've done if you wish
2008-01-06T18:14:14  <ThomasWaldmann> that would be great :)
2008-01-06T18:14:48  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.7.0/ForwardPortsFrom1.6 just grab some stuff from there
2008-01-06T18:16:43  * cb23 clones 1.7
2008-01-06T18:29:17  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3002:702d72f11b95 1.7/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py: use x-forwarded-for to get right remote_addr if a proxy is used (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T18:48:56  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3003:f54c41b3b7ce 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/msgfmt.py: fixed fuzzy state bug in msgfmt.py code (this killed non-fuzzy, valid translations in some cases!) (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T18:48:58  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3004:0ae378dc1edf 1.7/MoinMoin/ (auth/ldap_login.py config/multiconfig.py): updated ldap support from 1.5 branch: tls support, configuration defaults, comments/docs (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T18:50:58  <cb23> O-o 1.7 is still cloning
2008-01-06T18:51:14  * cb23 bangs his computer a few times
2008-01-06T18:53:19  <TheSheep> cb23: ouch!
2008-01-06T18:53:41  <TheSheep> cb23: please don't do that, you almost torn the ethernet cable from my box XD
2008-01-06T18:53:57  <cb23> hehe
2008-01-06T18:59:39  <grzywacz> Good thing I'm connected wirelessly
2008-01-06T18:59:40  <grzywacz> ;)
2008-01-06T19:04:22  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3005:ea3e77c4ab52 1.7/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py: fix ValueError exception for strange url_prefix_action URLs (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T19:04:24  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3006:8974561cc460 1.7/MoinMoin/ (action/diff.py util/diff_html.py): cosmetical fix for empty diff display (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T19:18:20  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3007:102a7ca14a64 1.7/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py: do not treat SystemExit exception as a failure (fixes SystemExit showing up in the logs when using fastcgi) (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T19:18:22  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3008:f8738a94d990 1.7/MoinMoin/formatter/text_docbook.py: fix attachment_link of docbook formatter (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T19:18:24  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3009:e67e97ad578f 1.7/MoinMoin/Page.py: better no content-length header than a wrong one, fixes truncated action=raw output for non-ascii pages (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T19:18:25  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3010:b4f97b0939ba 1.7/README: move the acknowledgements to the MoinMoin:MoinMoinAcknowledgements wiki page (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T19:18:27  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3011:5913913a4dc0 1.7/MoinMoin/macro/MonthCalendar.py: MonthCalendar: avoid even bad behaved bots reading more than current year +/- 1 in the calendar, rel=nofollow for links to nonexisting day pages (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T19:34:46  * cb23 shoots his service provider a few times
2008-01-06T19:36:33  <ThomasWaldmann> direct the lions at him :)
2008-01-06T19:36:35  <cb23> xorAxAx, do you think an acceptable solution to my attachfile problem would be subclassing the text_moin_wiki parser (it is what puts the links in the pages for dumppage) and changing the _transclude_repl function that outputs the URLs and such?
2008-01-06T19:37:06  <cb23> ThomasWaldmann, heh, when you are downloading a file in BPS, you know something is wrong :/
2008-01-06T19:37:35  <xorAxAx> cb23: not sure
2008-01-06T19:38:54  <cb23> ok, well since the answer isn't 'hell-no-that-is-the-dumbest-idea-ive-ever-heard' i'll give it a shot :)
2008-01-06T19:40:09  <cb23> nevermind, it is probably that long - seperated string that i mentioned above
2008-01-06T20:09:13  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3012:ca0bf3aefa0f 1.7/MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py: added more user agents to the spider list (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T20:09:15  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3013:6238e1b2fd7f 1.7/MoinMoin/Page.py: do not send any 404 content to bots (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T20:09:17  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3014:dc970f2d146c 1.7/MoinMoin/ (action/fullsearch.py search/queryparser.py search/results.py): avoid empty highlight query arg, do not use highlight for titlesearch terms (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T20:09:18  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3015:8d691fbdc929 1.7/ (3 files in 2 dirs): WSGI: initialize logging (untested) (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T20:09:20  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3016:5b17fc649925 1.7/README: removed note about old WikiSchulung slides (they are already deleted on MoinMaster wiki and will be gone in the repo after next underlay tar update) (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T20:09:23  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3017:2fb7b7a26690 1.7/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: wikiutil.url_unquote: try harder when decoding to unicode, avoid crashing (port from 1.6)
2008-01-06T20:30:43  <YoniWiz> who is CIA?
2008-01-06T20:31:16  <grzywacz> A bot.
2008-01-06T20:34:06  <cb23> grzywacz, no he's not
2008-01-06T20:34:32  <grzywacz> CIA-35? ;-)
2008-01-06T20:34:45  <cb23> YoniWiz, CIA is a chinese 8-year-old that the moin devs kidnapped to watch the hg repo
2008-01-06T20:34:47  <YoniWiz> yeah CIA-35
2008-01-06T20:34:51  <YoniWiz> hahahah
2008-01-06T20:34:54  <YoniWiz> whats the hg repo?
2008-01-06T20:34:59  <cb23> mercurial
2008-01-06T20:35:05  <cb23> like cvs / svn / git
2008-01-06T20:35:11  <YoniWiz> im confused but thats okay
2008-01-06T20:35:18  <xorAxAx> yeah, if there was no ghop, nobody would announce our commits
2008-01-06T20:35:37  <cb23> YoniWiz, its a version control system
2008-01-06T20:35:40  <YoniWiz> oh
2008-01-06T20:35:42  <YoniWiz> hmm
2008-01-06T20:35:53  <cb23> like a wiki for source code =)
2008-01-06T20:36:00  <bolekk> moin
2008-01-06T20:36:01  <YoniWiz> dreimark: are you around?
2008-01-06T20:36:09  <YoniWiz> bolekk: hello
2008-01-06T20:38:18  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: you there?
2008-01-06T20:41:23  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: you there?
2008-01-06T20:41:31  <rafael> http://cia.vc/ ^^
2008-01-06T20:41:38  <YoniWiz> thanks
2008-01-06T20:41:48  <YoniWiz> interesting
2008-01-06T20:43:40  <grzywacz> ...
2008-01-06T20:44:40  <ThomasWaldmann> YoniWiz: on irc, it helps to just tell what you want. if somebody is there (and has time), you'll get an answer.
2008-01-06T20:45:28  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: oh.. alright well I was just looking for any input since I have some time and seeing if anyone had more feedback or if people were happy with it
2008-01-06T20:46:03  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: good to know though, it helps to get tips on common practices and manners on IRC since I am not a long time user
2008-01-06T21:40:51  <dreimark> hi YoniWiz
2008-01-06T21:41:30  <dreimark> YoniWiz: did you've seen my input from yesterday ?
2008-01-06T21:41:56  <YoniWiz> dreimark: the input about the page layout and 1.6 features or was this newer after my revision?
2008-01-06T21:43:39  <dreimark> YoniWiz: 2008-01-05T20:01:12
2008-01-06T21:43:59  <YoniWiz> if it was on IRC I never saw it
2008-01-06T21:44:26  <dreimark> second chance http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-05
2008-01-06T21:45:34  <YoniWiz> I will work on making the logo transparent on the edge
2008-01-06T21:45:35  <dreimark> YoniWiz: ;)
2008-01-06T21:46:11  <YoniWiz> dreimark: and the indentation is now different because to have it justify (which i was told I should do to make it look professional) I had to do that
2008-01-06T21:46:22  <YoniWiz> dreimark: I dont know if I can fix that and still have it justify
2008-01-06T21:52:11  <dreimark> YoniWiz: it is inkscape ?
2008-01-06T21:52:20  <YoniWiz> dreimark: yes
2008-01-06T21:54:56  <dreimark> as I see it does not have real bullet text
2008-01-06T21:56:27  <CIA-35> moin: Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3018:5dfd26496da8 1.7/MoinMoin/script/migration/ (_conv160.py _conv160_wiki.py migutil.py): copied mig scripts from 1.6 branch
2008-01-06T21:57:03  <YoniWiz> dreimark: it doesnt really... I just went * then typed to bullet it
2008-01-06T21:58:12  * dreimark check scribus-ng
2008-01-06T21:59:53  <grzywacz> ng?
2008-01-06T22:00:29  <YoniWiz> dreimark: scribus wil not be helpful really... I spent a LONG time downloading it and it wont even open my file... scribus on a mac is not very good
2008-01-06T22:02:59  <dreimark> ng is the developer version
2008-01-06T22:03:53  <YoniWiz> but I cannot get that...
2008-01-06T22:03:57  <YoniWiz> ?
2008-01-06T22:04:09  <dreimark> I know and it hasn't it too
2008-01-06T22:04:56  <YoniWiz> so what should I do
2008-01-06T22:05:17  <dreimark> I do search how inkscape can do this normally
2008-01-06T22:05:24  <dreimark> e.g. http://wiki.inkscape.org/wiki/index.php/InkSlide
2008-01-06T22:06:09  <YoniWiz> I do not understand
2008-01-06T22:06:30  <dreimark> look at the image 3rd level
2008-01-06T22:06:54  <YoniWiz> but I made a poster not a presentation
2008-01-06T22:07:29  <TheSheep> YoniWiz: those were suggestions, remember?
2008-01-06T22:07:48  <dreimark> in principle there is no difference - bullets can go well in inkscape
2008-01-06T22:07:58  <YoniWiz> TheSheep: what? to justify it or what?
2008-01-06T22:08:21  <YoniWiz> dreimark: I guess the problem is I do not know how to do this... I can look in the help docs or something
2008-01-06T22:08:28  <TheSheep> YoniWiz: all the comments I made about the poster -- they are suggestions, *you* are the artist
2008-01-06T22:08:57  <YoniWiz> TheSheep: okay but i liked them and made them :-) ill look one sec
2008-01-06T22:11:16  <YoniWiz> in the help documentation I do not see an option for bullets
2008-01-06T22:11:42  <YoniWiz> I can go back to just breaking up the flowed text and making it manually indented with sapces on each line if you prefer that tho?
2008-01-06T22:11:46  <TheSheep> I always just inser some graphic...
2008-01-06T22:11:58  <TheSheep> insert
2008-01-06T22:12:02  <YoniWiz> huh?
2008-01-06T22:14:23  <TheSheep> as bullets
2008-01-06T22:15:13  <YoniWiz> oh. so I would take mine out and just use an image to bullet it
2008-01-06T22:15:19  <YoniWiz> that is quite clever
2008-01-06T22:32:47  <YoniWiz> dreimark: i have fixed both issues :-)
2008-01-06T22:32:52  <YoniWiz> dreimark: well kinda
2008-01-06T22:36:38  <YoniWiz> TheSheep: thanks for the picture idea
2008-01-06T22:36:55  <YoniWiz> i used a shape of a star
2008-01-06T22:38:22  <dreimark> YoniWiz: why do you have the alt text in the MM screen dump ?
2008-01-06T22:38:49  <YoniWiz> dreimark: alt text?
2008-01-06T22:40:26  <YoniWiz> oh because that is the standard layout, isn't it? (I assume you mean in my screenshot of the basic moin page under the logo)
2008-01-06T22:41:11  <dreimark> yes, no the standard layout has the icon instead of the text
2008-01-06T22:42:17  <YoniWiz> oh... well I was told to redo them in firefox because they looked bad from safari and that is how it appeared to me when i went to the home page in firefox
2008-01-06T22:42:47  <YoniWiz> apparently all of my browsers are bad :-)
2008-01-06T22:43:19  <dreimark> could it be that you have surpressed to see images from the MM side?
2008-01-06T22:44:14  <YoniWiz> how would I do that? is it a preference because I don't think so... in safari I think I could see the logo...
2008-01-06T22:44:23  <dreimark> another question I have had yesterday. Why do you do this complicated explaination about the last 100 revisions
2008-01-06T22:44:44  <dreimark> no one normally changes by hand the url
2008-01-06T22:44:50  <YoniWiz> dreimark: I dunno.. I can take it out if you want
2008-01-06T22:45:52  <YoniWiz> how about "features revision control, RSS feeds can be used to alert people of recent changes"
2008-01-06T22:46:16  <dreimark> yep, and add that people could subscribe a page to get notified by a diff of changes
2008-01-06T22:46:35  <YoniWiz> i do not know what that means
2008-01-06T22:46:56  <YoniWiz> what does "notified by a diff of changes" mean?
2008-01-06T22:46:57  <dreimark> YoniWiz: you are logged in now into the MM side?
2008-01-06T22:47:12  <dreimark> please subscribe your homepage
2008-01-06T22:47:19  <YoniWiz> yes
2008-01-06T22:47:22  <YoniWiz> on safari
2008-01-06T22:47:26  <YoniWiz> and i can see the logo
2008-01-06T22:47:40  <YoniWiz> how do i get to my homepage?
2008-01-06T22:47:53  <YoniWiz> oh i clicked my name
2008-01-06T22:47:57  <YoniWiz> it says i havent made one
2008-01-06T22:48:05  <dreimark> then create one please
2008-01-06T22:48:11  <dreimark> HomepageTemplate
2008-01-06T22:48:43  <bolekk> could somebody please remind me how to easily check moin source code for tabs ?
2008-01-06T22:48:43  <dreimark> afterwards click in the editbar "Subscribe"
2008-01-06T22:48:54  <dreimark> bolekk: vim
2008-01-06T22:49:32  <dreimark> bolekk: see http://moinmo.in/CodingStyle
2008-01-06T22:49:35  <bolekk> dreimark: yeah but I remember there was a command for it..
2008-01-06T22:49:54  <dreimark> pep8 sourcecode checker
2008-01-06T22:50:11  <dreimark> py.test in 1.7 starts it among other tests
2008-01-06T22:50:34  <YoniWiz> dreimark: i made a boring homepage and subscribed
2008-01-06T22:51:03  <dreimark> you didn't use the Homepage Template, so I fix it and you got the mail
2008-01-06T22:51:42  <YoniWiz> dreimark: it looks the same to me and I have no email
2008-01-06T22:53:03  <dreimark> look now
2008-01-06T22:53:08  <YoniWiz> now i have some
2008-01-06T22:53:39  <YoniWiz> oh i see they can subsribe to get email notifications that will specifiy the changes made
2008-01-06T22:54:24  <dreimark> right and this is an important feature
2008-01-06T22:54:50  <YoniWiz> okay (should I bold it?)
2008-01-06T22:56:56  <dreimark> if you like you can bold it, I have no real opinion
2008-01-06T22:56:57  <YoniWiz> TheSheep: do you still have those moinmoin homepage screenshots you took? (Sorry i lost the link...)
2008-01-06T22:57:31  <dreimark> The Enhanced search line should include that it is possible to search in attachments
2008-01-06T22:57:51  <YoniWiz> the body of attatchments can be searched?
2008-01-06T22:57:57  <dreimark> YoniWiz: if you are in fiorefox and you do see the alt text
2008-01-06T22:58:23  <dreimark> YoniWiz: yes it can, this is the xapian feature and it was a GSOC2006 task
2008-01-06T22:58:31  <YoniWiz> cool
2008-01-06T22:59:34  <dreimark> if you are with firefox on the MM side, can you check if you can get the url for the logo by moving the mouse cursor over the text
2008-01-06T23:00:17  <YoniWiz> one sec
2008-01-06T23:00:23  <YoniWiz> i am not in FF yet i was in safari
2008-01-06T23:00:41  <dreimark> you should find a link to the "http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinWiki"
2008-01-06T23:00:51  <dreimark> right mouse click then
2008-01-06T23:01:27  <YoniWiz> yes
2008-01-06T23:01:33  <YoniWiz> btw in firefox the logo now shows
2008-01-06T23:02:11  <dreimark> ok, then it is fixed, may be you have had blocked it
2008-01-06T23:02:23  <YoniWiz> alright i will screenshot it again
2008-01-06T23:02:45  <YoniWiz> TheSheep: nevermind
2008-01-06T23:03:16  <dreimark> see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinRelease1.6
2008-01-06T23:03:38  <dreimark> this is important "quickly working standalone mode"
2008-01-06T23:04:03  <YoniWiz> alright
2008-01-06T23:04:24  <dreimark> and you should describe acls too, because not many engines do have this
2008-01-06T23:04:28  <YoniWiz> a new bullet point... (I remember leaving that one out because I did not understand what it meant.. sorry)
2008-01-06T23:04:39  <dreimark> acls?
2008-01-06T23:04:48  <YoniWiz> acls?
2008-01-06T23:05:10  <YoniWiz> no i left out the standalone thing
2008-01-06T23:05:13  <YoniWiz> i do not know what acls is
2008-01-06T23:05:36  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists
2008-01-06T23:06:07  <dreimark> YoniWiz: the standalone thing means no installation for having a personal wiki
2008-01-06T23:06:43  <YoniWiz> oh access control lists
2008-01-06T23:07:20  <dreimark> Do you have downloaded MM ?
2008-01-06T23:09:05  <YoniWiz> no... i tried before
2008-01-06T23:09:06  <YoniWiz> why?
2008-01-06T23:09:35  <dreimark> so you can try out a standalone wiki
2008-01-06T23:09:54  <YoniWiz> dont i need a webserver for that?
2008-01-06T23:10:01  <dreimark> you don't
2008-01-06T23:10:10  <dreimark> it goes with pythons standalone server
2008-01-06T23:10:24  <dreimark> you need python
2008-01-06T23:10:37  <YoniWiz> i think i have it on this computer
2008-01-06T23:10:45  <YoniWiz> i have xcode tools and i think it came with that
2008-01-06T23:14:05  <ThomasWaldmann> YoniWiz: please add your mail contact
2008-01-06T23:15:36  <YoniWiz> to my homepage?
2008-01-06T23:16:13  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-01-06T23:16:25  <YoniWiz> will that be public?
2008-01-06T23:19:19  <ThomasWaldmann> if you use the <<MailTo(...)>> macro (as suggested by the template), logged in users will get a mailto: link, but anon users (and bots) will get exactly what you wrote in between the ().
2008-01-06T23:19:58  <ThomasWaldmann> http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnMacros/MailTo
2008-01-06T23:20:06  <YoniWiz> which is still my email but not a direct link?
2008-01-06T23:20:24  <YoniWiz> alright
2008-01-06T23:21:45  <ThomasWaldmann> that depends on you. read the help page :)
2008-01-06T23:25:17  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: if you have time, could you check all the creole changesets on http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.7.0/ForwardPortsFrom1.6 ?
2008-01-06T23:25:58  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: they are all imported
2008-01-06T23:26:09  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I told you yesterday
2008-01-06T23:26:21  <TheSheep> I'll mark them
2008-01-06T23:26:48  <ThomasWaldmann> it's not only your changes, but also changesets from me
2008-01-06T23:27:04  <YoniWiz> dreimark: i made those changes
2008-01-06T23:27:11  <ThomasWaldmann> so just review them and delete them from the page if they are in 1.7
2008-01-06T23:27:15  <YoniWiz> are there more or should I put up the newest pages
2008-01-06T23:29:08  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: the files are *identical* in both versions, I'll remove all the changesets
2008-01-06T23:29:24  <ThomasWaldmann> ok :)
2008-01-06T23:30:00  <ThomasWaldmann> be careful with the #format creole one
2008-01-06T23:30:50  <TheSheep> ah
2008-01-06T23:30:55  <TheSheep> that one I don't know
2008-01-06T23:32:38  <YoniWiz> dreimark: if there are no more changes I will upload the new version...
2008-01-06T23:34:09  <dreimark> ok
2008-01-06T23:35:55  <YoniWiz> dreimark: you think it is fine now?
2008-01-06T23:36:09  <CIA-35> moin: Karol 'grzywacz' Nowak <grzywacz@sul.uni.lodz.pl> default * 3019:d860ab45d438 1.7/jabberbot/ (_tests/test_capat.py capat.py config.py xmppbot.py): GHOP: part 3/3 of XEP-115 implementation by bolekk.
2008-01-06T23:36:12  <CIA-35> moin: Karol 'grzywacz' Nowak <grzywacz@sul.uni.lodz.pl> default * 3020:945368f271ef 1.7/ (46 files in 23 dirs): Merge with main.
2008-01-06T23:36:22  <dreimark> YoniWiz: I have to look first.
2008-01-06T23:36:35  <dreimark> Will do soon, currently some other talks too
2008-01-06T23:37:05  <grzywacz> bolekk, thanks, that's all for this issue :)
2008-01-06T23:37:50  <bolekk> grzywacz: thanks :)
2008-01-06T23:38:17  <grzywacz> MoinMoin got to the most active projects list: http://cia.vc/
2008-01-06T23:38:19  <grzywacz> ;D
2008-01-06T23:38:32  <grzywacz> And so did Thomas :P
2008-01-06T23:38:34  <xorAxAx> hah
2008-01-06T23:38:46  <xorAxAx> maybe they will understand DVCS some day :)
2008-01-06T23:39:14  <YoniWiz> dreimark: cool, not a problem I am going to dinner soon
2008-01-06T23:39:14  <grzywacz> :D
2008-01-06T23:41:11  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, looking at these lists... that locilka guy must be a robot :P
2008-01-06T23:41:25  <xorAxAx> hmm
2008-01-06T23:42:26  <YoniWiz> yay ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-06T23:42:35  <grzywacz> while patches_pending: commit
2008-01-06T23:42:36  <grzywacz> ;-)
2008-01-06T23:42:50  <dreimark> hmm, who did the two others missing from TWs
2008-01-06T23:47:28  <grzywacz> night :)
2008-01-06T23:48:11  <YoniWiz> night
2008-01-06T23:48:25  <dreimark> good night