MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-10

2008-01-10T09:33:58  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-01-10T10:15:36  <dreimark> moin
2008-01-10T10:17:45  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the talk was yesterday (nearly an hour with  questions)
2008-01-10T10:21:43  <ThomasWaldmann> how did it go?
2008-01-10T10:24:03  <dreimark> good, some did meet pyCologne because of the talk (they don't come regular).
2008-01-10T10:24:36  <dreimark> some told me afterwards they do migrate at the weekend, some that they like to try out the desktop edition
2008-01-10T10:26:40  <dreimark> and they liked the kind of presentation, no rubbish of animations between slides
2008-01-10T10:26:58  <dreimark> and fonts always easy to adjust by the browser itselfs
2008-01-10T10:27:58  <dreimark> someone asked about rst and a link bug which I can't answer
2008-01-10T10:28:28  <dreimark> and an other question I can't answer too was why is there no iso standard for wiki markup?
2008-01-10T10:28:31  <ThomasWaldmann> desktop edition? like ./moin.py ?
2008-01-10T10:28:36  <dreimark> right
2008-01-10T10:30:22  <dreimark> we don't have internet at the meeting room
2008-01-10T10:30:38  <dreimark> so I can't forward questions
2008-01-10T10:33:17  <ThomasWaldmann> sure, but the rst guy can file the bug
2008-01-10T10:38:30  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, moin master run xapian search now
2008-01-10T10:38:43  <ThomasWaldmann> (and it is broken)
2008-01-10T10:40:37  <dreimark> oh no, I will look at it too
2008-01-10T10:40:53  <dreimark> UI try to migrate my external wikis at Saturday, Sunday
2008-01-10T11:09:38  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: hmm search on master seems quite fast, what all is broken?
2008-01-10T12:13:21  <ThomasWaldmann> title search for help
2008-01-10T12:54:51  <dreimark> arrgh
2008-01-10T12:55:43  <johill> huh
2008-01-10T12:55:46  <johill> something is wrong with the diff view
2008-01-10T12:55:55  <johill> it shows &lt; and &gt; instead of < and >
2008-01-10T12:56:09  <dreimark> where?
2008-01-10T12:56:19  <johill> in the +/- diff view
2008-01-10T12:57:50  <johill> http://moinmo.in/4ct10n/info/JohannesBerg/DiffTest?action=diff&rev2=2&rev1=1
2008-01-10T12:57:59  <johill> but you need to turn off fancy diffs
2008-01-10T12:59:44  <dreimark> escaping ;(
2008-01-10T13:00:30  <johill> yeah
2008-01-10T13:00:35  <johill> but why is it done?
2008-01-10T13:03:49  * ThomasWaldmann suggests we first do the forward ports
2008-01-10T13:06:42  <dreimark> hmm, I can work on the forward ports after I have migrated the wikis here
2008-01-10T13:07:11  <dreimark> currently I do port every plugin i do use to 1.6
2008-01-10T13:43:19  <dreimark> s/to/in/
2008-01-10T13:44:02  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: how will we proceed with the migration bug which results in http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/FullSearchOnCategoryPage
2008-01-10T13:45:31  <dreimark> it is a bit stupid that the macro behaves different if called with () or without ()
2008-01-10T13:48:39  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: thanks for lookng at my patch. what do you mean by < ThomasWaldmann> nessacery < ! ? not nessavery?
2008-01-10T13:49:15  <xorAxAx> cb22: thats modern ascii art obviously :)
2008-01-10T13:49:55  <cb22> heh, so many punctuation symbols, so little time
2008-01-10T14:34:41  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: dict.leo.org
2008-01-10T14:37:53  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ?
2008-01-10T14:38:21  <johill> it's spelled necessary anyway
2008-01-10T14:38:58  <cb22> johill: i dont suppose you are actually from Johannesberg :)?
2008-01-10T14:39:05  <johill> no :)
2008-01-10T14:39:35  <johill> it's spelled Johannesburg too iirc
2008-01-10T14:44:40  <YoniSchool> xorAxAx: I am curious about the browser (mac) testing issue... I know I cannot claim it while I am doing the poster but I wanted to ask you some things about it
2008-01-10T14:56:42  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: but that would be funny: "Hi, I am Johannes Berg from Johannesburg." - consider moving! :))
2008-01-10T14:57:50  <johill> hehe
2008-01-10T14:58:06  <johill> a good job offer might provide enough incentive ;)
2008-01-10T15:00:58  <cb22> johill: no job offer can compensate for the crap internet here :/
2008-01-10T15:01:59  <johill> ah, you mentioned that
2008-01-10T15:02:06  <johill> good point
2008-01-10T15:02:12  <cb22> YoniSchool == YoniWiz @ school?
2008-01-10T15:02:19  <YoniSchool> yes
2008-01-10T15:02:21  <YoniSchool> heheh
2008-01-10T15:02:28  <johill> we could start an ISP ;)
2008-01-10T15:02:35  <YoniSchool> cb22: so I cant talk very much
2008-01-10T15:02:37  <cb22> no chance :(
2008-01-10T15:02:49  <cb22> unless you can get a fibre cable
2008-01-10T15:03:01  <cb22> YoniSchool: so you are actually sitting in class right now?
2008-01-10T15:03:13  <YoniSchool> yes
2008-01-10T15:03:15  <YoniSchool> french
2008-01-10T15:03:30  <cb22> on your laptop? dude, my school is soooooo behind :(
2008-01-10T15:03:51  <cb22> i would kill to have laptops at school
2008-01-10T15:12:48  <YoniSchool> we are like the poorest state but we all have laptops cause our town is cool like that
2008-01-10T15:12:55  <YoniSchool> all 7th graders get them all across the state too
2008-01-10T15:12:59  <YoniSchool> but I gtg for now
2008-01-10T15:13:03  <YoniSchool> ill be back later
2008-01-10T16:30:58  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: besides what you mentioned, and what i said was incomplete, do you see any retarded bits of code floating about?
2008-01-10T19:01:31  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: I will have to take a more deeper look at it later today (still at work)
2008-01-10T20:17:05  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-01-10T20:31:06  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +            action="store_true", dest="attach_all", default=False,
2008-01-10T20:31:33  <ThomasWaldmann> i think this should be reversed or people will naively not use it and then miss stuff in the dump
2008-01-10T20:35:53  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: did you try the --page option?
2008-01-10T20:36:30  <ThomasWaldmann> i think it will raise an AttributeError
2008-01-10T20:39:57  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: \ No newline at end of file
2008-01-10T20:40:35  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +                2007 Federico Lorenzi    < -2008
2008-01-10T20:42:00  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +class storage:  < name should be uppercase and less generic
2008-01-10T20:44:09  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +    def addstr(self, string, dstfile):   don't use string as a name (see module string)
2008-01-10T20:48:08  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: you use try/except/finally. i don't think this works for older python versions
2008-01-10T20:50:27  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +        @return: True for success, and an optional message apon failure     "upon"
2008-01-10T20:51:11  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +                    file = wikiutil.quoteWikinameFS(pagename)    do not use "file" as attribute name
2008-01-10T20:51:49  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +                        success = False     # used nowhere
2008-01-10T20:53:17  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +                            zip_name = os.path.join(dest_dir, attached).encode("cp437")   < that will likely fail for some names
2008-01-10T20:54:00  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i think you have enough todo now for next patch
2008-01-10T21:02:00  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: are you therte?
2008-01-10T21:02:02  <YoniWiz> *there
2008-01-10T21:02:14  <xorAxAx> yes
2008-01-10T21:02:27  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: you know that mac plugin task about the browsers etc?
2008-01-10T21:02:32  <xorAxAx> note that it makes sense asking everybody and not only me
2008-01-10T21:02:33  <xorAxAx> yes
2008-01-10T21:02:39  <xorAxAx> reimar would review that one
2008-01-10T21:03:07  <YoniWiz> is it considered accebtable to use a prior persons work that they started?
2008-01-10T21:03:19  <YoniWiz> and just finish the task based on what they had left to do?
2008-01-10T21:04:28  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: or is this not okay?
2008-01-10T21:08:52  <xorAxAx> i think thats fine
2008-01-10T21:09:08  <xorAxAx> but you should show that you also invested enough time into the task
2008-01-10T21:15:43  <kikka> Good Night
2008-01-10T21:19:17  <ThomasWaldmann> gn kikka
2008-01-10T21:31:01  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: AFAIK all filenames in a zip must be cp437
2008-01-10T21:31:21  <ThomasWaldmann> that might be, but moin allows utf-8
2008-01-10T21:32:47  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, is that a patch for 1.6?
2008-01-10T21:33:40  <cb22> yep, but 1.7 should be trivial too
2008-01-10T21:35:38  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: also, try .. except .. finally was intorduced in 2005, which was 2.3.5 - 2.4 looks like i should find another way?
2008-01-10T21:36:11  <cb22> (the original dump script used it, which is where i ripped it from)
2008-01-10T21:38:09  <ThomasWaldmann> minimum requirement for moin is 2.3, so it should work with that
2008-01-10T21:41:32  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: Changed in version 2.5: In previous versions of Python, try...except...finally did not work. try...except had to be nested in try...finally.
2008-01-10T21:42:19  <ThomasWaldmann> (from http://docs.python.org/ref/try.html )
2008-01-10T22:07:03  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: should i just take the easy way out using try: try: except: finally: or find something better?
2008-01-10T22:08:09  <ThomasWaldmann> well, not sure what you mean by better
2008-01-10T22:09:07  <cb22> neither do i, but i thought try: try: was 'hackish'
2008-01-10T22:09:15  <ThomasWaldmann> no, it is not