MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-14

2008-01-14T00:00:08  <cb22> (so i could dump the actual page, and not just an empty redirect one)
2008-01-14T00:00:43  <forrestv_> dreimark: do you like arrow pointing left or down more? i'm going to submit it now
2008-01-14T00:00:45  <TheSheep> forrestv_: you were right, yours is better
2008-01-14T00:01:24  <dreimark> forrestv_: the first one
2008-01-14T00:01:35  <dreimark> yours
2008-01-14T00:02:28  <dreimark> cb22: Page has get_pi
2008-01-14T00:03:08  <dreimark> so you can get the processing instructions
2008-01-14T00:04:55  <cb22> ah, thanks
2008-01-14T00:05:57  <CIA-35> Karol 'grzywacz' Nowak <grzywacz@sul.uni.lodz.pl> default * 3021:313a1d430bcb 1.7/jabberbot/_tests/test_capat.py: Skip the XEP-115 test if pyxmpp is not available.
2008-01-14T00:05:57  <cb22> yay :)
2008-01-14T00:08:50  * dreimark comments 105
2008-01-14T00:15:52  <dreimark> forrestv_: do you have done the py.test ?
2008-01-14T00:17:35  <forrestv_> dreimark: i don't have the module py apparently
2008-01-14T00:18:01  <forrestv_> dreimark: now i do and its clean :)
2008-01-14T00:18:17  <dreimark> no see -> permissions = " ".join(map(self.make_icon,permissions))
2008-01-14T00:18:51  <forrestv_> dreimark: ? confusing?
2008-01-14T00:19:04  <TheSheep> forrestv_: you need to install the codespeak library to have py.test
2008-01-14T00:19:06  <forrestv_> dreimark: oh, spaces in paremeters
2008-01-14T00:19:13  <cb22> dreimark: do you know if more then one redirect is allowed? like: Page 1 -> Page 2 -> Page 3 -> Real page
2008-01-14T00:19:22  <forrestv_> *parameters
2008-01-14T00:19:43  <dreimark> the test_sourcecode.py gets them
2008-01-14T00:20:26  <dreimark> cb22: never tried, ThomasWaldmann may know
2008-01-14T00:20:40  <forrestv_> dreimark: its not for me
2008-01-14T00:22:06  <dreimark> forrestv_: spaces in parameter lists has to be fixed
2008-01-14T00:22:59  <ernestas> dreimark: have you seen my page? Is there anything I should add/fix?
2008-01-14T00:24:30  <dreimark> ernestas: I have seen it I do wonder really why there are no params for the mplayer plugin
2008-01-14T00:24:33  <forrestv_> dreimark: the issue is updated
2008-01-14T00:24:44  <dreimark> :)
2008-01-14T00:24:58  <ernestas> dreimark, yeah, I am wondering, too. However, I really couldn't find any...
2008-01-14T00:25:29  <dreimark> ernestas: i found on the forum my request about that without any answer
2008-01-14T00:26:31  <dreimark> ernestas: can you please check if vlc can be used as plugin for linux too
2008-01-14T00:26:41  <ernestas> yes, it can
2008-01-14T00:26:50  <ernestas> I have used it some time ago
2008-01-14T00:27:00  <dreimark> can you add it please to the table
2008-01-14T00:27:02  <ernestas> ok
2008-01-14T00:27:10  <dreimark> and check if that has parameters
2008-01-14T00:27:53  <ernestas> yeah, sure
2008-01-14T00:31:45  <dreimark> forrestv_: a license is something different as a copyright
2008-01-14T00:32:01  <dreimark> e.g. MoinMoin license is GPL
2008-01-14T00:32:04  <forrestv_> dreimark: um, GPL
2008-01-14T00:32:08  <forrestv_> dreimark: yes
2008-01-14T00:32:24  <dreimark> please add this to the tar too
2008-01-14T00:32:36  <dreimark> below your copyright line
2008-01-14T00:32:42  <forrestv_> dreimark: do i submit the GPL COPYING notice, or 'this is GPL'?
2008-01-14T00:33:02  <dreimark> @license: GNU GPL, see COPYING for details.
2008-01-14T00:33:02  <moinBot> dreimark: Error: "license:" is not a valid command.
2008-01-14T00:33:11  <dreimark> hehe
2008-01-14T00:34:20  <forrestv_> dreimark: the issue is updated
2008-01-14T00:41:49  <dreimark> forrestv_: I will close it, thanks for working on this part
2008-01-14T00:42:11  * dreimark comments 99
2008-01-14T00:50:23  <dreimark> good night
2008-01-14T00:51:51  <ernestas> gn, dreimark
2008-01-14T00:52:27  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-01-14T00:57:42  * cb22 updates #98
2008-01-14T01:00:06  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: check if that 000 issues goes away if you set DOS flag
2008-01-14T01:00:40  <ThomasWaldmann> (i analyzed that some month ago and iirc the stdlib code was a bit broken)
2008-01-14T01:01:40  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: hmm, the dos flag?
2008-01-14T01:01:50  <ThomasWaldmann> (you can also check some existing zip code in moin)
2008-01-14T01:03:53  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: hmm, im looking at PackagePages, and it does not seem to be doing anything different, except for explicitly enabling compression
2008-01-14T01:08:06  <ThomasWaldmann> you can read zipfile.py :)
2008-01-14T01:08:47  <cb22> ah, think i found it
2008-01-14T01:12:15  <cb22> yay :)
2008-01-14T01:16:03  * cb22 updates #98
2008-01-14T01:17:55  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: should i start writing tests for it?
2008-01-14T01:31:42  <forrestv_> for issue 103, you want to be able to run something like 'moin server start' to start a standalone server?
2008-01-14T01:33:25  <cb22> scripts/moin.py server start AFAIK
2008-01-14T01:51:55  <cb22> gn all
2008-01-14T02:08:58  <ThomasWaldmann> forrestv_: yes (are you voights?)
2008-01-14T02:10:58  <ThomasWaldmann> in fact it will be rather something like moin --config-dir=... server standalone --ip=... --port=... --start
2008-01-14T02:33:01  <forrestv_> ThomasWaldmann: yes, i am voights. thanks
2008-01-14T02:36:27  <ThomasWaldmann> (and it should also get stopped cleanly, of course)
2008-01-14T02:56:07  <forrestv_> is it supposed to run as a daemon?
2008-01-14T02:56:27  <forrestv_> ThomasWaldmann
2008-01-14T02:58:22  <ThomasWaldmann> that could be an option
2008-01-14T02:59:10  <ThomasWaldmann> but begin with nondaemon mode
2008-01-14T02:59:48  <ThomasWaldmann> the daemon stuff would be nice for initscripts
2008-01-14T04:11:24  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: it is done
2008-01-14T04:11:29  <YoniWiz> (if you didnt see earlier)
2008-01-14T10:01:10  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-01-14T10:01:32  <ThomasWaldmann> YoniWiz: see tracker comment about misaligned bullets
2008-01-14T10:43:31  <dreimark> moin
2008-01-14T11:24:26  <dreimark> johill: do you have already a 1.6 version of inline_latex?
2008-01-14T11:35:39  <johill> dreimark: no
2008-01-14T11:35:47  <johill> dreimark: I might have a 1.7 version
2008-01-14T11:35:50  <johill> which might work with 1.6
2008-01-14T11:38:22  <johill> dreimark: try the stuff in http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/files/latex-stuff.tar.bz2
2008-01-14T12:38:43  <dreimark> johill: great, works that action is new or ?
2008-01-14T12:44:25  <dreimark> the formatter has some problems with HelpOnMoinWikiSyntax but I think you know that
2008-01-14T13:01:14  <cb22> moin
2008-01-14T14:03:11  <kikka> moin
2008-01-14T14:04:45  <xorAxAx> moin kikka
2008-01-14T14:52:52  <kikka> Huhu
2008-01-14T15:10:44  <cb22> xorAxAx: should i write some tests for my dump action, or are they not needed?
2008-01-14T15:13:16  <xorAxAx> cb22: hmm, if you think that it is easily testable, you could do so. but a test for the functions you refactored code into would be nice (to see if it picks up recursive things etc.)
2008-01-14T15:16:54  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: and maybe check that brute-force system=0 stuff again
2008-01-14T15:17:57  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: i could do it on creation, if i use the ZipInfo class. I'll give that a shot
2008-01-14T15:36:56  <johill> dreimark: the action is unpublished so far
2008-01-14T15:37:05  <johill> dreimark: it's just a shortcut to get the latex output
2008-01-14T15:37:19  <johill> dreimark: the wiki syntax page, yeah, there could be something wrong with it
2008-01-14T16:11:25  <cb22> hmm, how can i delete a page without creating a backup by using PageEditor?
2008-01-14T16:12:20  <ThomasWaldmann> why would you want to do that?
2008-01-14T16:12:45  <cb22> tests
2008-01-14T16:13:32  <ThomasWaldmann> the test wiki is rather temporary anyway
2008-01-14T16:13:44  <cb22> ah ok
2008-01-14T16:24:16  <theredmonkey> moin
2008-01-14T16:32:15  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: the bullets have been fixed I thought
2008-01-14T16:40:59  <ThomasWaldmann> YoniWiz: you didnt upload a new version after my comment
2008-01-14T17:38:46  <kikka> Hello there! :)
2008-01-14T17:43:50  <kikka> xorAxAx, btw, I know mq (pocoo and such) in real life. :)
2008-01-14T17:49:30  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: whooops i guess i forgot to upload
2008-01-14T17:49:31  <YoniWiz> my bad
2008-01-14T17:49:34  <YoniWiz> i will
2008-01-14T17:49:46  <YoniWiz> sorry i did it yesterday but forgot
2008-01-14T18:04:33  <xorAxAx> kikka: heh, "pocoo"
2008-01-14T18:16:11  <kikka> xorAxAx, dunno ;)
2008-01-14T18:59:04  <ThomasWaldmann> YoniWiz: well, how about uploading it NOW?
2008-01-14T19:03:40  * YoniWiz done
2008-01-14T19:09:09  <YoniWiz> ThomasWaldmann: thanks
2008-01-14T19:14:15  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks for helping :)
2008-01-14T19:20:21  <dreimark> :)
2008-01-14T19:21:10  <dreimark> bbl
2008-01-14T19:23:27  <ernestas> moin
2008-01-14T19:26:05  <ernestas> dreimark: ping
2008-01-14T19:27:00  <dreimark> hi ernestas
2008-01-14T19:27:38  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: [[attachment:file.pdf]] -> is view and not get
2008-01-14T19:29:13  <dreimark> ernestas: I will be back later and do read your page then. ~3h
2008-01-14T19:31:16  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: in the past it was get
2008-01-14T19:33:50  <ernestas> ok, dreimark
2008-01-14T19:47:53  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: maybe i'm going crazy, but i cant seem to see the poster on the tracker at all?
2008-01-14T20:13:10  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: yes, but this is intended
2008-01-14T20:14:03  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: i looked at the png
2008-01-14T20:17:53  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: in some version >>1.7, attachment: will go away, so the link will simply be [[file.pdf]] (or [[/file.pdf]] for subitem)
2008-01-14T20:18:39  <ThomasWaldmann> all items will be treated the same way, that means the link will be to the default action, which is show, not raw/download
2008-01-14T20:47:30  <bolekk> hello :)
2008-01-14T20:48:19  <bolekk> I have a small problem, I've set page acl rights to 'All:read', how can I change it ? :p
2008-01-14T20:48:51  <ThomasWaldmann> bolekk: do you have config access?
2008-01-14T20:49:22  <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: what does it mean? I can edit wikiconfig.py
2008-01-14T20:50:54  <ThomasWaldmann> use acl_rights_before and give yourself what you need
2008-01-14T20:51:55  <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: thanks
2008-01-14T21:21:27  <YoniWiz> xorAxAx: for browser testing on mac issue did the other user mostly finish it but never made a page?
2008-01-14T21:40:26  <kikka> Good Night
2008-01-14T21:56:47  <ThomasWaldmann> anybody working on Mac OS X?
2008-01-14T22:01:13  * cb22 updates #98 with a test suite and misc fixes
2008-01-14T22:17:04  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the plugins currently to heteregenous. acroread for example takes sometimes a minute instead of milliseconds
2008-01-14T22:17:38  <dreimark> loading a pdf
2008-01-14T22:18:34  <dreimark> the browser configurations for plugins is not very good designed
2008-01-14T22:19:11  <dreimark> to avoid get view mode people do write currently the whole get url
2008-01-14T22:20:30  <dreimark> I think we go better if we do this switch a bit later. At the time we are closer at items
2008-01-14T22:20:53  <ThomasWaldmann> too late
2008-01-14T22:22:02  <dreimark> hmm, why?
2008-01-14T22:22:20  <ThomasWaldmann> because 1.6.0 is released already?
2008-01-14T22:22:39  <dreimark> yeah, but this could be named bug
2008-01-14T22:23:11  <ThomasWaldmann> if acrobat reader plugin sucks, that's not a moin problem
2008-01-14T22:23:44  <dreimark> I know, but if one starts to write [[http://moinmo.in/WikiSandBox?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=test_image.jpg|test_image.jpg]]
2008-01-14T22:24:24  <dreimark> we don't want either
2008-01-14T22:26:34  <bolekk> xorAxAx: in #105 it is written that supplementation action should AT LEAST show some info that user is not allowed to create the discussion page, do you have a better idea to solve that ?
2008-01-14T22:27:31  * bolekk updates #105
2008-01-14T22:27:37  <dreimark> a) not showing discussion link
2008-01-14T22:31:07  <bolekk> dreimark: but the user may want to read the discussion only
2008-01-14T22:31:27  <dreimark> only at the time the page does not exist
2008-01-14T22:31:38  <bolekk> dreimark: ah, i see
2008-01-14T22:32:22  <dreimark> or add it as text so one knows all is right with the setup of the page
2008-01-14T22:32:35  <dreimark> similiar to the edit/immutable
2008-01-14T22:34:23  <bolekk> dreimark: okay
2008-01-14T22:37:26  <ernestas> dreimark: I don't see any problem with acroread. It takes a few seconds to load. I am using Celeron 2Ghz box. Most computers should open it quite fast, unless the computer is really old
2008-01-14T22:39:37  <dreimark> how big is your pdf file
2008-01-14T22:40:18  <ernestas> well, about a dozen of pages. well,yes, it may depend on the size of pdf, too...
2008-01-14T22:40:37  <dreimark> the one someone shoed me was 8MB
2008-01-14T22:40:43  <dreimark> showed
2008-01-14T22:43:20  <ernestas> it would be interesting to test evince mozilla plugin to view PDF's. I have been searching for the actual plugin, but I always find only notes about it.
2008-01-14T22:44:55  <ernestas> I'm talking about the real plugin, not mozplugger + evince
2008-01-14T22:51:32  <dreimark> that would be a very good replacement
2008-01-14T22:53:30  <dreimark> ernestas: ok, please  upload a documentation file to the tracker too
2008-01-14T22:53:51  <ernestas> ok, I totally forgot about that
2008-01-14T23:00:25  <ernestas> I will make a pdf this time
2008-01-14T23:01:39  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: if the adobe plugin does not work, deinstall it. the you will just get the attachments page with a download link
2008-01-14T23:02:16  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: btw, could you please take a look at my task when you get a chance
2008-01-14T23:04:08  <bolekk> dreimark: Is 'Discussion' string translated using _ ? I can't see it in .po files
2008-01-14T23:04:52  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +                if e.errno != 17:  is there a system independant constant for this?
2008-01-14T23:05:00  <dreimark> bolekk: http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnConfiguration/SupplementationPage
2008-01-14T23:05:16  <dreimark> please use supplementation_page_name
2008-01-14T23:05:17  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +                    raise e    < just raise, no e
2008-01-14T23:06:24  <bolekk> i see
2008-01-14T23:06:35  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: the strange thing is using the get link it embeds much faster as doing the view link
2008-01-14T23:07:02  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +            zi = zipfile.ZipInfo(filename=dstfile.encode("cp437"),
2008-01-14T23:07:03  <ThomasWaldmann> +                date_time=datetime.date.today().timetuple()[:6])
2008-01-14T23:07:27  <ThomasWaldmann> if you just make 2 statements out of that, you don't need to break one into 2 lines
2008-01-14T23:08:20  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: same again later
2008-01-14T23:11:10  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +        try:
2008-01-14T23:11:10  <ThomasWaldmann> +            recurse = int(form.get('recurse', [u''])[0])
2008-01-14T23:11:10  <ThomasWaldmann> +        except AttributeError:
2008-01-14T23:11:11  <ThomasWaldmann> +            return False, 'Invalid value for recurse!'
2008-01-14T23:11:30  <ThomasWaldmann> why AttributeError? did you try &recurse=foo?
2008-01-14T23:13:11  <cb22> hmm, it raise an attributeerror when i tried, weird
2008-01-14T23:16:25  <ernestas> dreimark: I have attached the pdf to the issue tracker
2008-01-14T23:16:47  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +        for rattr in ["custom_attach", "custom_link_prefix", "custom_link_suffix",
2008-01-14T23:16:50  <ThomasWaldmann> +                     "custom_link_encode"]:
2008-01-14T23:16:55  <ThomasWaldmann> merge into one line
2008-01-14T23:19:49  * cb22 guesses that moin frowns apon split lines :)
2008-01-14T23:30:00  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: +            if Page(self.request, page).exists():
2008-01-14T23:30:01  <ThomasWaldmann> +                py.test.skip("The temporary pages we are trying to create already exist!")
2008-01-14T23:30:19  <ThomasWaldmann> that means your test only runs once until one nukes the test wiki?
2008-01-14T23:30:43  <cb22> afaik it deletes the pages?
2008-01-14T23:31:04  <cb22> in The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
2008-01-14T23:31:04  <cb22> The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
2008-01-14T23:31:16  <cb22> ... in teardown_class
2008-01-14T23:31:21  <xorAxAx> BPI?
2008-01-14T23:32:03  <ThomasWaldmann> +        attach.append(getFilename(self.request, 'BrudnopisWiki', 'mytest.draw'))
2008-01-14T23:32:06  <ThomasWaldmann> hm?
2008-01-14T23:33:01  <cb22> xorAxAx: was reading digg, and i normally randomly select things with my mouse, then i pressed the middle button =)
2008-01-14T23:33:14  <xorAxAx> cb22: nevertheless i want to know what BPI is :)
2008-01-14T23:33:58  <cb22> the british version of the riaa
2008-01-14T23:34:36  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: that attaches a file that i use to test. should i use one from an english page instead?
2008-01-14T23:35:12  <ThomasWaldmann> \ No newline at end of file
2008-01-14T23:35:38  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-01-14T23:35:47  <ernestas> dreimark: thanks.
2008-01-14T23:36:00  * bolekk updates #105 once again
2008-01-14T23:36:09  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: i noticed that, but there is one
2008-01-14T23:36:28  <cb22> ah - wait, it has whitespace on it
2008-01-14T23:39:01  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: considering it is simply a test wiki, should i drop that check (even though the files should get deleted?)?
2008-01-14T23:39:50  <cb22> s/should get/do get/
2008-01-14T23:40:14  <bolekk> dreimark: now it is disabled :)
2008-01-14T23:42:49  <ernestas> good night
2008-01-14T23:44:00  <bolekk> I noticed that after logging out the 'edit' link stays active even if the anonymous user has no right to edit the page, it changes after refreshing
2008-01-14T23:44:26  <xorAxAx> bolekk: file a bug :)
2008-01-14T23:45:16  <bolekk> xorAxAx: suitable for a new ghop task :p
2008-01-14T23:46:07  * cb22 updates #98 again
2008-01-14T23:53:12  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: what's up with the test_dump.py (c)?
2008-01-14T23:54:06  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ?
2008-01-14T23:54:30  <cb22> ah, i copied _test_teplate
2008-01-14T23:54:35  <ThomasWaldmann> is there code not written by yourself?
2008-01-14T23:55:20  <ThomasWaldmann> DumpStore could get some docstrings
2008-01-14T23:55:44  <ThomasWaldmann> DumpPages also
2008-01-14T23:56:25  <ThomasWaldmann> +    def create(self, pages, output, logger, attachused="off", recurse=0, format="dir"):
2008-01-14T23:56:28  <ThomasWaldmann> +        """ Create a ZIP file of all the pages specified. Write to the open file
2008-01-14T23:56:31  <ThomasWaldmann> +        or filename output. If attachall is True, all the attachments belonging
2008-01-14T23:57:20  <ThomasWaldmann> +                # writing to the filesystem is sanatized approrpriatly.  < !!!