2008-01-18T00:25:26 <dreimark> YoniWiz: I don't want to see only multimedia plugins
2008-01-18T00:39:12 <YoniWiz> dreimark: pdf is external app like Preview or often opens in browser out of the box. i dont know of any real plugins...quicktime is built in to play through the browsers, tiff is viewable out of box, odt and .doc (alone with all microsoft office formats) are only viewable out of browser by download and third part application, QT (quicktime) will do midi filles in browser without anything special (since QT comes with OS X) and i dont
2008-01-18T00:40:59 <dreimark> line was to long
2008-01-18T00:41:34 <dreimark> it ends for me at "comes with OS X) and i dont"
2008-01-18T00:42:16 <dreimark> YoniWiz: can you please check http://freewareosx.wordpress.com/2007/09/13/pdf-browser-plugin/
2008-01-18T00:42:44 <YoniWiz> comes with OS X) and i dont know what ps, djvu, or vrml are but if viewable i am almost sure it is by third party, external, non-browser-plugin based
2008-01-18T00:42:50 <YoniWiz> and yea i will look
2008-01-18T00:43:25 <dreimark> it would be nice if you can show me the information similiar to http://moinmo.in/ErnestasLiubarskij/WindowsBrowserPlugins
2008-01-18T00:43:40 <dreimark> because he did it that way for two OSs
2008-01-18T00:43:53 <dreimark> and it is then easier to compare for me
2008-01-18T00:46:13 <dreimark> dejavu http://www.lizardtech.com/download/dl_options.php?page=plugins
2008-01-18T00:46:28 * YoniWiz wonders if MS and OOo offer mac plugins too i never checked
2008-01-18T00:46:43 <YoniWiz> and the first site was in german but why have a pdf plugin if safari etc will open it without one?
2008-01-18T00:46:55 <YoniWiz> since adobe come with and the browsers do natively
2008-01-18T00:47:34 <dreimark> I did only a quick search, it is your issue :)
2008-01-18T00:48:55 <dreimark> if i enter {{attachment:file.pdf||width=300}} I do want to see it at a location in the wiki page
2008-01-18T00:49:06 <YoniWiz> well I am saying a pdf viewer or plugin seems unneeded, I will look into doc and odt viewers I did not know they were possible and will check
2008-01-18T00:49:07 <dreimark> and not outside
2008-01-18T00:49:39 <YoniWiz> like in the body of the document?
2008-01-18T00:49:45 <dreimark> right
2008-01-18T00:50:35 <YoniWiz> hmmmm i do not see why this is not possible since you can open them in a new browser window.... are you/we sure you can't do that already? like can you provide me with a wiki page were on your machine it will do that and I will see if on mine it displays that way and if not find a plugin so it will
2008-01-18T00:51:15 <YoniWiz> and earlier you said if I could show information similar to the windows one becasue "he did it that way for two OSs and it is then easier to compare for me" but I only see that he did it for one OS: Windows XP
2008-01-18T00:53:15 <dreimark> I did an example for you at http://moinmo.in/ReimarBauer please use your own page on MM for further examples
2008-01-18T00:53:47 <dreimark> I don't have a mac so I don't know how it goes
2008-01-18T00:53:53 <YoniWiz> right
2008-01-18T00:53:54 <YoniWiz> cool
2008-01-18T00:54:07 <YoniWiz> i did not know how the code worked for embedded pdf
2008-01-18T00:54:10 <YoniWiz> so i asked you to
2008-01-18T00:54:50 <YoniWiz> what is the pdf?
2008-01-18T00:56:29 <dreimark> the moinmoiun logo, you can look at the source with action raw
2008-01-18T00:58:01 <dreimark> you may want to read http://moinmo.in/HelpOnLinking
2008-01-18T00:58:24 <dreimark> Transclusion/Embedding
2008-01-18T00:58:42 <ThomasWaldmann> any objections to adding .diff and .patch to MIMETYPES_MORE?
2008-01-18T01:01:15 <YoniWiz> dreimark: it is weird... I see it but only in a limited box...
2008-01-18T01:01:37 <YoniWiz> but that is how you made it
2008-01-18T01:01:43 <YoniWiz> but it is not scaled well
2008-01-18T01:01:47 <YoniWiz> i see sections at a time
2008-01-18T01:01:51 <YoniWiz> and can move around
2008-01-18T01:02:01 <YoniWiz> if the pdf was 50 by 50 on your screen it no longer is
2008-01-18T01:02:09 <YoniWiz> because not all fits on my 50 by 50 box
2008-01-18T01:02:20 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: may be we should move that var ro multiconfig
2008-01-18T01:02:24 <YoniWiz> but i do see the pdf file embedded without having to open in seprate thing
2008-01-18T01:02:34 <dreimark> and it's ok adding one more
2008-01-18T01:03:07 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: this stuff is global, not per wiki
2008-01-18T01:03:09 <dreimark> YoniWiz: its only an example to show it in principle i did'nt care on the right size
2008-01-18T01:03:30 <YoniWiz> okay well then... it works no problem without a plugin in
2008-01-18T01:03:32 <YoniWiz> i saw it
2008-01-18T01:03:46 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: if this is the default in wikiconfig it is global too and easier to extend
2008-01-18T01:04:32 <dreimark> YoniWiz: please try all your examples if your are not sure they are embedded in the body and describe params for controlling them
2008-01-18T01:07:28 <YoniWiz> dreimark: like the other media files? I am sure those work embedded as in personal use I have used them
2008-01-18T01:10:05 <CIA-35> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2504:0fa55bfda789 1.6/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: adding some .ext -> mimetype mappings missing on some systems (like Mac OS X)
2008-01-18T01:18:10 <YoniWiz> dreimark: ps and odt work native in safari and i will soon test in FF and Camino
2008-01-18T01:18:23 <YoniWiz> wait can I just stop testing in Camino since we only need 2 browsers
2008-01-18T01:18:31 <dreimark> ok, cu tomorrow, good night
2008-01-18T01:18:35 <YoniWiz> and FF and Safari are far and away the mosst popular?
2008-01-18T01:18:39 <YoniWiz> night
2008-01-18T01:19:32 <dreimark> 2 browsers is ok
2008-01-18T01:46:54 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, how about writing a wsgi standalone server as GHOP task?
2008-01-18T01:48:53 <xorAxAx> "writing"?
2008-01-18T01:49:12 <xorAxAx> and what is a wsgi standalone server?
2008-01-18T01:49:16 <ThomasWaldmann> (using wsgiref :)
2008-01-18T01:49:26 <xorAxAx> thats one line of code ...
2008-01-18T01:49:31 <ThomasWaldmann> no
2008-01-18T01:50:30 <ThomasWaldmann> (similar functionality as the current standalone server)
2008-01-18T01:57:52 <xorAxAx> thats likely not possible :)
2008-01-18T01:58:14 <xorAxAx> because the wsgiref server is limited (not sure if it supports all concurrency models)
2008-01-18T01:59:48 <ThomasWaldmann> well, at least it would have to serve the static stuff also
2008-01-18T02:00:16 <ThomasWaldmann> so it would be a mixture of wsgi for the dynamic stuff and same as now for the static
2008-01-18T02:02:27 <xorAxAx> "same as now"? moin doesnt have a wsgi server for its static data
2008-01-18T02:02:39 <xorAxAx> not sure if wsgiref includes one
2008-01-18T02:02:52 <xorAxAx> (would be stupid if it didnt :))
2008-01-18T02:03:13 <ThomasWaldmann> same as now refers to the current standalone server, of course
2008-01-18T02:03:27 <xorAxAx> which doesnt implement wsgi
2008-01-18T02:03:44 <ThomasWaldmann> gah. reading helps.
2008-01-18T02:04:06 <xorAxAx> ?
2008-01-18T09:26:11 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-01-18T10:49:15 <dreimark> moin
2008-01-18T11:16:07 <rafael> dreimark: ping
2008-01-18T11:21:54 <dreimark> rafael: pong
2008-01-18T11:30:14 * dreimark lunch
2008-01-18T11:33:35 <ThomasWaldmann> rafael: instead of pinging, write what you want to tell next time :)
2008-01-18T11:33:56 <ThomasWaldmann> (that's better for async irc)
2008-01-18T11:37:00 <rafael> ThomasWaldmann: oki
2008-01-18T11:37:38 <rafael> dreimark: def macro_Action(macro, action=u'show', text=None, button=None, _kwargs=None):\n #...button = wikiutil.get_bool(macro.request, button) and then i output the button after "if button:".. but i also get a button when button=False
2008-01-18T11:39:32 <rafael> dreimark: ah. i found the bug. was my mistake :)
2008-01-18T11:40:08 <ThomasWaldmann> sometimes even telling helps :D
2008-01-18T11:40:48 <rafael> yep :)
2008-01-18T11:55:17 <rafael> dreimark: try this diff for 1.6: http://paste.pocoo.org/unidiff/22076/22077/
2008-01-18T12:36:55 <dreimark> rafael: no, see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/22084/
2008-01-18T12:38:23 <rafael> dreimark: and where to use there get_bool ?
2008-01-18T12:39:16 <dreimark> you can use the 1.7 code change the argument type and refactor it with the execute statement for 1.6
2008-01-18T12:39:57 <dreimark> I showed you get_bool that you know you can use the type bool for the argument
2008-01-18T12:40:30 <dreimark> and get_bool is used then by the call of the macro by wikiutil.invoke_extension_function
2008-01-18T12:40:54 <dreimark> in 1.7 this is part of the parser but in 1.6 you have to write an execute as in the example
2008-01-18T12:41:57 <rafael> dreimark: hm? don't understand your words. what must i change in 1.6 execute()? and no get_bool in 1.7, right?
2008-01-18T12:42:27 <dreimark> please look at the 1.7 code
2008-01-18T12:43:44 <dreimark> instead of None do use bool
2008-01-18T12:43:58 <rafael> but my nopaste is v1.6 diff^^
2008-01-18T12:44:48 <rafael> dreimark: there i make self.args.get('button', False)?
2008-01-18T12:47:03 <dreimark> rafael: the work should be done prelimiary in the 1.7 branch, becaause the resulting macro could be easily added to 1.6 by adding the execute part
2008-01-18T12:47:16 <dreimark> s/prelimiary/primary/
2008-01-18T12:47:54 * rafael closes the 1.6 buffer in vim
2008-01-18T12:48:27 <rafael> dreimark: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/22086 is my 1.7 version
2008-01-18T12:50:30 <dreimark> you don't need button = wikiutil.get_bool(macro.request, button)
2008-01-18T12:51:29 <rafael> so it's unnecessary?
2008-01-18T12:53:29 <dreimark> rafael: yes, you can try your self
2008-01-18T12:54:05 <dreimark> we have added in 1.6 an parser for arguments, but the refactoring of all the macros will be done in 1.7
2008-01-18T12:54:43 <dreimark> there are already a view examples on the MacroMarket, e.g. HelloWorld
2008-01-18T12:55:44 <rafael> dreimark: so i submit the working 1.7 version in the tracker and leave the 1.6 out?
2008-01-18T12:56:13 <dreimark> or you add the execute part from the paste bin or from HelloWorld
2008-01-18T12:56:38 <dreimark> text should be of type unicode
2008-01-18T12:57:46 <rafael> dreimark: whicht text? the 1.6 version is a class, no function
2008-01-18T12:57:48 <dreimark> at the end there are too much blanks
2008-01-18T12:58:39 <dreimark> the parameter text is as None defined, but you can define it as unicode
2008-01-18T13:02:01 <dreimark> rafael: macro_Action(macro, action=u'show', text=unicode, button=bool, _kwargs=None):
2008-01-18T13:02:21 <rafael> i have it so
2008-01-18T13:04:31 <dreimark> do you need unicode(_form) if text is unicode ?
2008-01-18T13:05:47 <rafael> no, i took this from another code part in moin
2008-01-18T13:07:47 <dreimark> probably because we do not have done in 1.6 the refactoring for the new parser
2008-01-18T13:08:40 <rafael> everything else is correct?
2008-01-18T13:09:13 <dreimark> # return button could be a bit more verbose
2008-01-18T13:10:18 <ThomasWaldmann> any opinions regarding using paypal or moneybookers.com for moin donations?
2008-01-18T13:11:58 <dreimark> rafael: moment
2008-01-18T13:12:36 * rafael is eating
2008-01-18T13:14:50 <dreimark> rafael: sorry my mistake unicode(_form) is needed
2008-01-18T13:23:34 <rafael> dreimark: yes, because unicode is only the default value
2008-01-18T13:33:20 <rafael> dreimark: and why then unicode as default? IMHO None is proper there
2008-01-18T13:34:43 <dreimark> ok
2008-01-18T13:43:42 <rafael> dreimark: http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/detail?id=104 updated
2008-01-18T13:55:48 <dreimark> rafael: will read later at home
2008-01-18T13:56:13 <rafael> k
2008-01-18T14:29:29 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: not now, remark: it should not costs us to receive money or if then not much
2008-01-18T14:30:09 <ThomasWaldmann> if cc is involved, you usually have to pay 2..4%
2008-01-18T14:46:07 <ThomasWaldmann> shit, google checkout is only for us/uk
2008-01-18T14:47:59 <xorAxAx> they are currently working on making it usable for whole europe
2008-01-18T14:48:11 <xorAxAx> (my ex employer is working on that :))
2008-01-18T14:48:40 <ThomasWaldmann> (that WAS a super secret project :)
2008-01-18T14:50:40 <xorAxAx> i think its already known
2008-01-18T15:18:48 <dreimark> http://www.online-marketing-praxis.de/wissen/checkout.php
2008-01-18T15:18:59 <dreimark> Für Europa und Asien laufen nach Angaben von Google die Planungen
2008-01-18T15:31:00 <xorAxAx> cb22: regarding your links collection code - i would use the page links and not the function that you are using
2008-01-18T15:31:09 <xorAxAx> cb22: reduced pain ...
2008-01-18T15:31:16 <xorAxAx> there is a page method for that
2008-01-18T16:16:24 <bolekk> moin
2008-01-18T16:16:49 <xorAxAx> hi bolekk
2008-01-18T16:17:02 <xorAxAx> gah, broken: http://code.google.com/p/google-highly-open-participation-moinmoin/issues/list?can=2&q=status%3Aactionneeded%2Cclaimed&sort=enddate&colspec=ID+Status+ClaimedBy+EndDate+Summary&x=status&y=claimedby&cells=tiles
2008-01-18T16:17:10 <xorAxAx> bolekk: do you also see your issue listed there? :)
2008-01-18T16:17:50 <xorAxAx> at least it correctly says "closed" - but it shouldnt show up (because i only want to see open ones) - a pity that we need to use such broken systems :-(
2008-01-18T16:18:46 <bolekk> xorAxAx: heh
2008-01-18T16:20:11 <bolekk> xorAxAx: these stats at opentouch.info are broken as well, it says I've completed 2 tasks less than I actually did
2008-01-18T16:20:28 <xorAxAx> yeah
2008-01-18T16:20:36 <xorAxAx> well, thats because of this issue
2008-01-18T16:20:54 <xorAxAx> lets hope that google has a way to correctly count internally at least
2008-01-18T16:20:54 <bolekk> xorAxAx: and that one student has claimed 3 tasks simultanously which is not true :p
2008-01-18T16:20:59 <xorAxAx> yep :)
2008-01-18T16:31:53 * cb22 reanimates himself
2008-01-18T16:33:02 <dreimark> bbl
2008-01-18T16:55:07 <cb22> xorAxAx: page links?
2008-01-18T16:55:25 <xorAxAx> cb22: well, you want to know which pages are linked for recursive traversal, right?
2008-01-18T16:55:58 <cb22> yes, indeed
2008-01-18T16:56:07 <xorAxAx> and instead of trying to care for your own list, you can ask moin which links are on a page
2008-01-18T16:56:14 <xorAxAx> by calling a page method
2008-01-18T16:56:32 <cb22> xorAxAx: :)
2008-01-18T16:56:35 * cb22 looks
2008-01-18T16:57:06 <cb22> however afaik i would still need to keep a little bit of code modification there, to modify the prefix / suffix?
2008-01-18T16:57:23 <xorAxAx> yes
2008-01-18T16:58:14 <cb22> btw, on the hg site it says 1.5 is still the current release
2008-01-18T16:58:57 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann:
2008-01-18T17:00:29 <cb22> doh @ me for missing a function names getPageLinks
2008-01-18T17:21:24 * ThomasWaldmann fixed it
2008-01-18T18:02:25 <cb22> xorAxAx: is [subpagename for subpagename in subpagelist if request.user.may.read(subpagename)] needed if i use getPageList with the current user?
2008-01-18T18:14:04 <bolekk> the end date of #26 is incorrect
2008-01-18T18:18:27 <cb22> bolekk: ?
2008-01-18T18:18:49 <cb22> claimed on the 17 + 7 days = 14th?
2008-01-18T18:24:08 <bolekk> -3 days for a task ;)
2008-01-18T18:24:51 <bolekk> if that guy works faster than light then who knows...
2008-01-18T18:27:40 <xorAxAx> cb22: no, just dont pass a user and then you dont need to check
2008-01-18T18:28:28 <xorAxAx> bolekk: indeed, thanks, fixe
2008-01-18T18:28:28 <xorAxAx> d
2008-01-18T19:05:07 <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: can you finish your task asap?
2008-01-18T19:05:18 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: yeah, i'm just testing it
2008-01-18T19:05:22 <cb22> all seems to be fine
2008-01-18T19:05:35 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
2008-01-18T19:05:46 <cb22> sorry about the real lateness :(
2008-01-18T19:12:01 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ok, updated
2008-01-18T19:12:19 <bolekk> @106 : should the current release of FCKeditor be used there or the SVN version ?
2008-01-18T19:12:19 <moinBot> bolekk: Error: "106" is not a valid command.
2008-01-18T19:12:34 <bolekk> task 106 : should the current release of FCKeditor be used there or the SVN version ?
2008-01-18T19:12:49 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, I am slightly annoyed by that enduring Microsoft crap in every SF moin-user mail
2008-01-18T19:13:21 <ThomasWaldmann> what do you think about switching to google groups and cancelling the SF mailing list?
2008-01-18T19:13:55 <ThomasWaldmann> (you == everybody reading :)
2008-01-18T19:14:20 <ThomasWaldmann> bolekk: current release except if you have good reasons for SVN
2008-01-18T19:14:22 <xorAxAx> why google groups?
2008-01-18T19:14:31 <cb22> well, i've never used google groups before, but if it gets rid of microsoft advertising crud
2008-01-18T19:14:32 <ThomasWaldmann> why not :)
2008-01-18T19:14:42 <xorAxAx> because that would motivate people to use the webinterface
2008-01-18T19:14:47 <xorAxAx> which produces horrible mails
2008-01-18T19:14:50 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: google groups?
2008-01-18T19:14:59 <waldi> not nearly usenet
2008-01-18T19:15:39 <ThomasWaldmann> I am also fed up with spam fighting on the SF interface (and I also do not want to have this on own server).
2008-01-18T19:16:12 <TheSheep> oh, there is a moin mailing list? :3
2008-01-18T19:16:36 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: yeah, for the ones not using the wiki or irc :D
2008-01-18T19:17:04 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: what'd they need moin for?
2008-01-18T19:17:15 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: what's the problem (compared to what we have now)?
2008-01-18T19:17:56 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: you can post to moin wiki via email :D
2008-01-18T19:19:06 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: but the idea generally is good
2008-01-18T19:19:17 <xorAxAx> i am just wondering if there are better alternatives
2008-01-18T19:19:23 <xorAxAx> maybe launchpad?
2008-01-18T19:20:10 <waldi> *prust*
2008-01-18T19:21:30 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: funny, but not very constructive. do you have any better ideas, maybe at some site that has a good spam filter and does not annoy its users?
2008-01-18T19:21:34 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: btw, if you grabbed my patch like 2 minutes ago, it had a typo :(( updated on the web
2008-01-18T19:26:32 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: alioth, berlios, localhost. google not, all world uses google to spam the usenet
2008-01-18T19:28:49 <xorAxAx> waldi: the usenet?
2008-01-18T19:29:40 <waldi> xorAxAx: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet?
2008-01-18T19:29:41 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: alioth also uses mailman, I guess that's quite the same experience as on SF (apart from the MS ads).
2008-01-18T19:30:32 <waldi> ThomasWaldmann: the whole world uses mailman
2008-01-18T19:30:40 <xorAxAx> waldi: how is that related?
2008-01-18T19:30:54 <waldi> xorAxAx: google groups started as frontend for the usenet
2008-01-18T19:30:54 <xorAxAx> waldi: i have been using the usenet for 9 years ...
2008-01-18T19:31:01 <xorAxAx> waldi: i know, so?
2008-01-18T19:32:56 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: why would you dislike to run the list? too much traffic? no mailman running?
2008-01-18T19:33:00 <xorAxAx> maybe i could install a mailman
2008-01-18T19:33:46 <ThomasWaldmann> i would prefer using some service of a bigger site, as long as it is not spoiled or sucks otherwise.
2008-01-18T19:34:03 <xorAxAx> for which reason?
2008-01-18T19:34:05 <ThomasWaldmann> big sites usually can easily fight spam because they get lots of.
2008-01-18T19:34:11 <xorAxAx> ?
2008-01-18T19:34:30 <xorAxAx> i dont see how that relates :)
2008-01-18T19:34:47 <ThomasWaldmann> (if you get lots of spam, it is easier to detect patterns and just discard it)
2008-01-18T19:34:59 <forrestv_> ThomasWaldmann: hi, sorry about not communicating. i have a solution to issue 103 @ http://forre.st/ghop/servmoin.tar
2008-01-18T19:35:01 <xorAxAx> (in fact, more spam means more required system resources i.e. you can only do cheap tests)
2008-01-18T19:35:17 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: its not like some neural network and a human trainer do the spam filtering :)
2008-01-18T19:35:25 <xorAxAx> the only learning part nowdays is a bayes filter
2008-01-18T19:35:47 <xorAxAx> and i have already a spamassassin running on my site
2008-01-18T19:36:01 <xorAxAx> with a learned bayes filter
2008-01-18T19:36:14 * cb22 mentions dspam, i hear it's pretty good
2008-01-18T19:36:20 <ThomasWaldmann> if you like, you can setup and administer a new list
2008-01-18T19:36:35 <xorAxAx> that would be the idea
2008-01-18T19:36:54 <ThomasWaldmann> currently, I get notified for each spam mail that goes to moin-user and can review them via their web interface...
2008-01-18T19:37:15 <xorAxAx> that sucks :)
2008-01-18T19:37:27 <ThomasWaldmann> (and btw, I hate mailing lists anyway :)
2008-01-18T19:37:34 <xorAxAx> are they using mailman?
2008-01-18T19:38:10 <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-01-18T19:38:33 <xorAxAx> and they dont have a spam filter running that reduces the mails that you need to check?
2008-01-18T19:39:02 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe they have, but I have subjects like ????????????????? 5 per day.
2008-01-18T19:39:32 <xorAxAx> hehe
2008-01-18T19:39:38 <ThomasWaldmann> (cyrillic usually)
2008-01-18T19:39:54 <TheSheep> greylisting is pretty nice, especially for slow things like a mailing list
2008-01-18T19:40:10 <TheSheep> but requires some work to set up
2008-01-18T19:42:20 <ThomasWaldmann> bolekk: congrats :)
2008-01-18T19:42:29 <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: ?
2008-01-18T19:42:43 <ThomasWaldmann> for doing this task :)
2008-01-18T19:43:00 <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: which one ?
2008-01-18T19:43:06 <TheSheep> congrats == congratulations ;)
2008-01-18T19:43:08 <ThomasWaldmann> 106
2008-01-18T19:43:56 <ThomasWaldmann> (that saves myself from JS debugging I rather dislike :)
2008-01-18T19:45:17 <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: well maybe it is more safe to hold on with congratulations till I've finished it :p
2008-01-18T19:46:05 <ThomasWaldmann> :)
2008-01-18T19:56:45 <bolekk> ThomasWaldmann: are there any major differences concerning FCKEditor between 1.6 and 1.7 ?
2008-01-18T19:59:23 <bolekk> should #106 be done on 1.6 or 1.7 or there is no difference ?
2008-01-18T20:10:44 <xorAxAx> 1.7 IMHO
2008-01-18T20:29:55 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, 1.7
2008-01-18T20:30:07 <ThomasWaldmann> bolekk: no
2008-01-18T20:30:32 <ThomasWaldmann> ...difference
2008-01-18T21:09:08 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: btw i've updated my task
2008-01-18T21:40:31 <CIA-35> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 853:dbe95b27954a 1.5/ (MoinMoin/action/Despam.py docs/CHANGES): fixed Despam action: editor grouping was broken, increase time interval to 30d
2008-01-18T21:40:59 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: 1.5 ?
2008-01-18T21:42:03 <ThomasWaldmann> (i needed it there, will be ported, of course)
2008-01-18T21:54:35 <CIA-35> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 2505:630eba75542c 1.6/MoinMoin/action/Despam.py: fixed Despam action: editor grouping was broken, increase time interval to 30d (port from 1.5)
2008-01-18T22:02:39 <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: I look at it right now.
2008-01-18T22:06:11 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/ is missing
2008-01-18T22:08:11 <ThomasWaldmann> ?
2008-01-18T22:14:03 <ThomasWaldmann> cb22:
2008-01-18T22:14:05 <ThomasWaldmann> + if form.get('attachedused', [u''])[0] == "on":
2008-01-18T22:14:05 <ThomasWaldmann> + attachused = True
2008-01-18T22:14:05 <ThomasWaldmann> + else:
2008-01-18T22:14:08 <ThomasWaldmann> + attachused = False
2008-01-18T22:14:16 <ThomasWaldmann> didn't we talk about that some days ago?
2008-01-18T22:14:31 <cb22> yes, but i didnt know what you meant i should do?
2008-01-18T22:14:58 <ThomasWaldmann> well, compare the truth value of the if-condition to the truth value you assign....
2008-01-18T22:17:16 <ThomasWaldmann> + @param excludesys: exclude underlay / sytem pages
2008-01-18T22:20:42 <ThomasWaldmann> + page = Page(request, wikiutil.url_unquote(pagename))
2008-01-18T22:23:56 <bolekk> dreimark: I've seen that the <form>s I changed while doing some mod_python task are not committed yet, are they causing some problems ?
2008-01-18T22:24:26 <bolekk> dreimark: except the issue with xapian you mentioned a few days ago (is it fixed ?)
2008-01-18T22:25:21 <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: see also _sysunder
2008-01-18T22:25:48 <ThomasWaldmann> what's _sysunder anyway??
2008-01-18T22:26:29 <cb22> it returns true apon the page being in the underlay
2008-01-18T22:26:50 <cb22> (should i just use a lambda?)
2008-01-18T22:27:25 <ThomasWaldmann> look into Page or wikiutil for isUnderlayPage
2008-01-18T22:28:02 <ThomasWaldmann> or maybe rather isSystemPage
2008-01-18T22:28:25 <ThomasWaldmann> did you fix the True/False stuff now?
2008-01-18T22:29:43 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: maybe i should use isStandardPage?
2008-01-18T22:32:19 <ThomasWaldmann> read the docstrings
2008-01-18T22:34:49 <dreimark> bolekk: they are committed to 1.6
2008-01-18T22:34:54 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: what did you mean by the @param excludesys bit?
2008-01-18T22:35:11 <dreimark> bolekk: but not ported to 1.7 as all the others
2008-01-18T22:35:29 <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: typoh
2008-01-18T22:35:48 <cb22> ah, sorry
2008-01-18T22:36:20 <bolekk> dreimark: hmm so maybe I still don't understand hg, when I do hg pull and then hg diff why do I see all the forms' changes ?
2008-01-18T22:36:32 <dreimark> which moin version
2008-01-18T22:36:36 <bolekk> 1.6
2008-01-18T22:37:16 <dreimark> hg log | more
2008-01-18T22:37:18 <dreimark> changeset: 2494:11e20c641ad
2008-01-18T22:37:26 <cb22> ok fixed that, and the _sysunder. also removed the wikiutil.url_quote bit, 'cause i get the unencoded pagename now
2008-01-18T22:37:58 <bolekk> dreimark: yes I can see that, strange
2008-01-18T22:38:47 <dreimark> hg diff is only for changes which aren't committed
2008-01-18T22:39:53 <bolekk> dreimark: yeah, so I should have seen nothing
2008-01-18T22:39:54 <dreimark> or you have to enter revisions
2008-01-18T22:40:12 <ThomasWaldmann> did you fix the True/False stuff now?
2008-01-18T22:41:12 <cb22> to be honest, i have no clue :/ is there a pep or a google string you have to push me along?
2008-01-18T22:42:09 <bolekk> dreimark: It's okay after hg update ...
2008-01-18T22:43:05 <ThomasWaldmann> attachused = form.get('attachedused', [u''])[0] == "on"
2008-01-18T22:44:41 <cb22> O-o cool, /me goes to hide in the corner
2008-01-18T22:45:12 <ThomasWaldmann> 3+1 places for that fix
2008-01-18T22:47:44 <cb22> =1?
2008-01-18T22:47:47 <cb22> =1?*
2008-01-18T22:47:59 <cb22> +1?** (bad keys...)
2008-01-18T22:54:02 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ok, updated
2008-01-18T22:58:58 <ThomasWaldmann> 3 at one place, 1 at another place
2008-01-18T23:45:17 <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: ok, any other issues?
2008-01-18T23:46:24 <ThomasWaldmann> did you read your next diff?
2008-01-18T23:48:51 <cb22> yes, and tested it, why? btw, i couldnt find the other = True / = False you mentioned
2008-01-18T23:50:58 <ThomasWaldmann> just asking :)
2008-01-18T23:51:34 <cb22> ah, hehe :) i thought you spotted some huge blatent obvious error
2008-01-18T23:51:42 <cb22> bah @ tautology MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-01-18 (last edited 2008-01-17 23:30:02 by IrcLogImporter)
