MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-02-07

2008-02-07T00:20:15  <ThomasWaldman2> re
2008-02-07T00:27:14  <ThomasWaldman2> xorAxAx: you can do it if you like. i can also do, but not before tomorrow afternoon.
2008-02-07T00:36:33  <xorAxAx> ok, i can do it now
2008-02-07T00:56:59  <xorAxAx> done. good night
2008-02-07T00:58:47  <ThomasWaldman2> gn xorAxAx
2008-02-07T01:01:43  <xorAxAx> interesting out of office reminder
2008-02-07T07:49:40  <ThomasWaldman2> moin
2008-02-07T09:25:36  <dreimark> moin
2008-02-07T12:20:01  <johill> rofl!
2008-02-07T12:20:12  <xorAxAx> johill: hmm?
2008-02-07T12:20:13  <johill> now I get surge protection because of the gallery macro
2008-02-07T12:20:22  <xorAxAx> not sure how that is funny
2008-02-07T12:21:02  <johill> I'm continually making fun of surge protection. it never worked for me in any way
2008-02-07T12:21:23  <xorAxAx> for nobody i think :)
2008-02-07T12:26:31  <johill> probably
2008-02-07T12:50:16  <johill> dreimark: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/Photos/
2008-02-07T12:51:52  <xorAxAx> umm
2008-02-07T12:52:04  <xorAxAx> the gallery loads all full scale images if i just click a single one?
2008-02-07T12:52:12  <xorAxAx> sounds severely b0rked :)
2008-02-07T12:53:05  <johill> huh?
2008-02-07T12:53:09  <johill> it does?
2008-02-07T12:53:10  <johill> weird
2008-02-07T12:53:24  <xorAxAx> in opera at least
2008-02-07T12:53:29  <johill> hmm
2008-02-07T12:53:38  <johill> how does it look like?
2008-02-07T12:53:57  <johill> poke dreimark he wrote that ;)
2008-02-07T12:54:27  <johill> I had to uninstall opera, it conflicted with some system library
2008-02-07T12:55:29  <xorAxAx> dreimark: gallery2 loads all full scale images in the single-image view
2008-02-07T12:55:38  <xorAxAx> johill: you dont see them
2008-02-07T12:55:51  <xorAxAx> johill: its just loading them in the background
2008-02-07T12:56:12  <johill> you're right it loads them all
2008-02-07T12:56:17  <johill> just checked the log
2008-02-07T12:56:21  <johill> very stupid
2008-02-07T12:59:37  <johill> wait that's intentional. ewww
2008-02-07T13:02:56  <johill> this is better
2008-02-07T13:03:03  <johill> just hacked that out
2008-02-07T13:49:56  <ThomasWaldman2> re
2008-02-07T14:57:17  <dreimark> johill: :)
2008-02-07T14:57:38  <johill> dreimark: really though, the javascript preloading should be optional
2008-02-07T14:59:13  <johill> dreimark: another question: how does the album feature work?
2008-02-07T15:00:02  <johill> dreimark: it just shows a single picture then and no thumbnail overview, right?
2008-02-07T15:00:14  <dreimark> yes
2008-02-07T15:00:31  <dreimark> you can have one album per page currently
2008-02-07T15:00:50  <dreimark> I thought on using include
2008-02-07T15:01:01  <johill> hm? per page?
2008-02-07T15:01:17  <johill> what I would have liked to do is have an album view on /Photos/ instead of the list I have now
2008-02-07T15:01:26  <johill> and the links go to the thumbnail overview
2008-02-07T15:01:34  <johill> but I don't see how I could do that
2008-02-07T15:04:04  <dreimark> hmm, one way is to use an image attachment link to the page with the thumbnails
2008-02-07T15:04:19  <johill> hm, yeah, that'd work
2008-02-07T15:04:38  <johill> but it'd rely on the thumbnail naming from the Gallery2 macro
2008-02-07T15:04:47  <johill> unless I make the front thumbnail myself
2008-02-07T15:05:51  <dreimark> by another virtual page this may be solvalble by Gallery2 too, but I am not sure if it is a good idea to have all images on one page
2008-02-07T15:07:01  <dreimark> I try to do an example (packages.zip later on how I do think it goes with include)
2008-02-07T15:07:16  <johill> hm I guess I could use Gallery2 and the itemlist feature
2008-02-07T15:07:26  <johill> ah no
2008-02-07T15:08:10  <johill> I'd have to be able to set the "target page"
2008-02-07T15:10:07  <dreimark> yeah missing feature
2008-02-07T15:10:43  <johill> Ideally you'd have something like
2008-02-07T15:10:55  <dreimark> then the album mode could be called from any page
2008-02-07T15:11:10  <johill> {{{#!Gallery2 albums=./.*
2008-02-07T15:11:16  <johill> or maybe
2008-02-07T15:11:27  <johill> {{{#!Gallery2 subalbums
2008-02-07T15:11:33  <johill>  * /Page1
2008-02-07T15:11:42  <johill>  * /Page2
2008-02-07T15:11:42  <johill> }}}
2008-02-07T15:12:26  <dreimark> or * [[/Page1|Sweden]]
2008-02-07T15:12:36  <johill> yeah
2008-02-07T15:12:48  <johill> actuall, no
2008-02-07T15:12:55  <johill> the description should be in the Gallery on the subpage
2008-02-07T15:13:04  <johill> so you can have multiple galleries on a subpage if you really want
2008-02-07T15:13:10  <johill> or maybe that's just not something you can do
2008-02-07T15:13:43  <johill> doesn't make much sense anyway since by default it picks up all attached images
2008-02-07T15:15:01  <johill> dreimark: why are you using post everywhere btw?
2008-02-07T15:15:07  <johill> makes it hard to link to an image
2008-02-07T15:15:23  <johill> I mean give somebody a link "I like this image: http://...."
2008-02-07T15:15:27  <dreimark> but you can use a list on a page or a filter to select images so you can make different sections
2008-02-07T15:15:56  <johill> dreimark: yeah, but if you then want to count that as different albums you lose
2008-02-07T15:15:59  <johill> ;)
2008-02-07T15:16:16  <dreimark> right
2008-02-07T15:16:58  <johill> which is ok imho
2008-02-07T15:17:20  <johill> if you really want two albums you can make two pages and include them on a common page
2008-02-07T15:17:40  <dreimark> moment phone call
2008-02-07T15:22:12  <dreimark> ok
2008-02-07T15:22:20  <johill> and then it would use front_image to know which one to show for each page
2008-02-07T15:22:35  <johill> I mean front_image from the sub-page gallery2 invokation
2008-02-07T15:23:08  <johill> and album_name
2008-02-07T15:24:21  <dreimark> the reason for post is using a ticket
2008-02-07T15:24:54  <johill> what does it need a ticket for?
2008-02-07T15:25:34  <dreimark> wrong it doesn't use.
2008-02-07T15:31:01  <dreimark> one of ther earlier version has used GET I have to remember why I have changed it to POST
2008-02-07T15:31:25  <johill> heh
2008-02-07T15:38:24  <dreimark> I did this change together with adding forms
2008-02-07T15:38:35  <johill> we could also present the galleries in a table like the pictures
2008-02-07T15:42:14  <dreimark> yes and  may be with mode=2 for adding a description
2008-02-07T15:42:24  <johill> yeah
2008-02-07T15:42:32  <johill> pretty much everything should apply
2008-02-07T15:42:45  <johill> well, not really, but a few things anyway
2008-02-07T15:44:28  <dreimark> you could remove the -- by show_date=0 on your pages
2008-02-07T15:44:43  <kikka> Hello!
2008-02-07T15:44:44  <johill> oh
2008-02-07T15:44:46  <johill> cool thanks
2008-02-07T15:45:06  <dreimark> it would be nice PIL would respect exif info or we could apply exif of the original image to the resized ones
2008-02-07T15:45:22  <johill> there is no exif in my images
2008-02-07T15:45:33  <johill> well useless info only
2008-02-07T15:45:37  <johill> since they're scanned from slides
2008-02-07T15:45:54  <dreimark> ah right forgot
2008-02-07T15:49:14  <johill> ok thanks for the hint, the -- is gone now :)
2008-02-07T15:51:22  <dreimark> the back button is missing in the slide show http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/wiki/img/back.png
2008-02-07T15:51:44  <dreimark> but it is in the zip file thought I did the failure there
2008-02-07T15:52:14  <johill> oh heh
2008-02-07T15:52:16  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/Gallery2/Installation?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Gallery2_img.zip
2008-02-07T15:52:37  <johill> fixed
2008-02-07T15:52:40  <dreimark> I think we will find some nicer tango icons
2008-02-07T15:52:56  <dreimark> have to go for a talk
2008-02-07T15:53:03  <johill> somehow my css is interacting badly
2008-02-07T15:53:14  <johill> I have to go too, will be on again tomrrow afternoon
2008-02-07T15:53:25  <dreimark> ok, cu
2008-02-07T15:58:05  <cb22> ls
2008-02-07T15:58:10  <cb22> woops :)
2008-02-07T16:37:41  <kikka> Woohoo, I bought a WRT54GL!
2008-02-07T16:44:12  <cb22> kikka: they're fun to play with hey?
2008-02-07T16:48:43  <kikka> cb22, it is on the way to me.
2008-02-07T16:51:55  <ThomasWaldmann> kikka: openwrt?
2008-02-07T16:53:41  <vpv> openwrt is nice, though the latest versions don't have an official web ui, so if you want that, you need to install the x-wrt packages or something similar
2008-02-07T16:53:44  <kikka> ThomasWaldmann, yeah, I think about it. I don't know much about OpenWRT, DD-WRT and Tomato. What's the difference?
2008-02-07T16:54:01  <kikka> vpv, webif is possible, isn't it?
2008-02-07T16:55:11  <vpv> yes, with x-wrt or by using older versions
2008-02-07T16:56:53  <kikka> Well, I think, I don't need a ui.
2008-02-07T16:57:23  <cb22> kikka: if you plan on using it as a wireless router, i'd say go with openwrt
2008-02-07T16:57:34  <cb22> s/openwrt/ddwrt/
2008-02-07T16:57:46  <cb22> but if you are going to hack around with it, use openwrt
2008-02-07T16:58:06  <kikka> Well, why not openwrt for a wireless router?
2008-02-07T16:58:16  <kikka> I plan it on using as a wlan-ap
2008-02-07T16:58:24  <cb22> it can be quite a mission to configure if you dont have a simple setup (like me, i needed to get it to do wds) and eventually got it working, but just installed ddwrt as it was a lot easier
2008-02-07T16:58:59  <cb22> btw, if you are good with a soldering iron, i recommened the sdcard mod ;)
2008-02-07T16:59:24  <kikka> But, in the OpenWRT wiki it is very good explained. And it seems to be very simple.
2008-02-07T16:59:34  <cb22> *seems*
2008-02-07T16:59:48  <kikka> No, no soldering iron
2008-02-07T17:00:21  <cb22> give openwrt a shot, if you get it working nicely, great! but if you cant figure out something, chances are ddwrt has a gui option for it
2008-02-07T17:00:59  <cb22> oh, and dont brick it, that sucks :)
2008-02-07T17:01:13  <kikka> Yeah ;)
2008-02-07T17:01:31  <kikka> Hm, I don't know how to flash it again. First with the linksys webgui.
2008-02-07T17:01:50  <cb22> yep, thats what i did first time. also tftp
2008-02-07T17:02:23  <kikka> Well, I don't understand tftp.
2008-02-07T17:02:46  <kikka> http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Hardware/Linksys/WRT54GL looks good
2008-02-07T17:05:29  <kikka> And the DD-WRT way of flashing is a little bit difficult
2008-02-07T19:21:51  <dreimark> bbl
2008-02-07T19:58:29  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-02-07T20:14:12  <kikka> Hey ThomasWaldmann
2008-02-07T20:15:06  <ThomasWaldmann> moin kikka
2008-02-07T20:15:54  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i shipped your laptops today noon
2008-02-07T21:49:54  <xorAxAx> "In the online form there is place for only 15 tasks =] do I have to
2008-02-07T21:49:54  <xorAxAx> choose 15 of the tasks that I have completed or should I wait for it to
2008-02-07T21:49:55  <xorAxAx> be extended? (I'd need almost twice that ;) )"
2008-02-07T21:50:00  <grzywacz> hi xorAxAx
2008-02-07T21:50:09  <grzywacz> lol
2008-02-07T21:50:20  <xorAxAx> you unproductive students, have a look at this model
2008-02-07T21:50:23  <xorAxAx> ;-)
2008-02-07T21:50:26  * grzywacz hides
2008-02-07T21:50:33  <grzywacz> Where do I buy it? ;-)
2008-02-07T21:50:40  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: what?
2008-02-07T21:50:43  <xorAxAx> that student?
2008-02-07T21:50:44  <grzywacz> This model. :P
2008-02-07T21:50:45  <grzywacz> :D
2008-02-07T21:51:02  <xorAxAx> i meant that he serves as a model
2008-02-07T21:51:22  <grzywacz> I know what you meant. I'm just playing with the word "model". :P
2008-02-07T21:52:45  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: models can be male as well, so you should ask your girlfriend first :-)
2008-02-07T21:53:15  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, :P
2008-02-07T23:00:20  * cb22 beats xorAxAx with a life stick :p
2008-02-07T23:04:58  <xorAxAx> cb22: :-)
2008-02-07T23:05:22  <xorAxAx> cb22: i think you should show it to that student, i guess he hasnt seen it for ages :-)
2008-02-07T23:10:20  <cb22> xorAxAx: hehe, btw, how do you guys managed to actually work on moin, and have a job (i think) at the same time?
2008-02-07T23:17:53  <TheSheep> the point is to use moin at your job
2008-02-07T23:19:19  <xorAxAx> cb22: i was most active when i wasnt a student yet
2008-02-07T23:19:49  <xorAxAx> when i had the job that was demanding differently
2008-02-07T23:34:52  * grzywacz cries
2008-02-07T23:35:05  <grzywacz> Work hours at Sabre are quite nasty :P
2008-02-07T23:38:49  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: :)