MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-02-25

2008-02-25T00:36:16  * ThomasWaldmann curses "logging"
2008-02-25T03:41:51  <CIA-26> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3110:a48929a5036c 1.7/MoinMoin/ (20 files in 12 dirs): logging: make it work correctly by doing logging configuration very early
2008-02-25T08:40:18  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-02-25T09:18:56  <dreimark> moin
2008-02-25T09:19:34  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: seems you do have had a quite short night
2008-02-25T09:25:59  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, was quite some struggle with logging
2008-02-25T10:27:22  <dreimark> http://citp.princeton.edu/memory/
2008-02-25T12:11:38  <grzywacz> re
2008-02-25T12:12:22  <xorAxAx> grzywacz: moin, how was fosdem?
2008-02-25T12:14:18  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, quite nice. I didn't see too many talks, as I spent of my time with wesnoth folks.
2008-02-25T12:14:36  <grzywacz> xorAxAx, it's an interesting experience to meet all these people after a few years of "knowing" each other ;)
2008-02-25T12:14:51  <xorAxAx> yep :)
2008-02-25T12:15:42  <grzywacz> *most of my time
2008-02-25T12:15:48  <grzywacz> Yeah, didn't get enough sleep and it shows.
2008-02-25T12:15:48  <grzywacz> :P
2008-02-25T19:23:40  <xorAxAx> cb22: you can remove the forward now
2008-02-25T20:15:39  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-02-25T20:16:11  <grzywacz> re ThomasWaldmann
2008-02-25T20:16:12  <xorAxAx> cb22: thanks
2008-02-25T20:18:38  <cb22> xorAxAx: no problem
2008-02-25T20:19:01  * cb22 feels sorry from leslie
2008-02-25T20:19:24  <xorAxAx> cb22: hmm?
2008-02-25T20:19:51  <xorAxAx> "for"?
2008-02-25T20:21:18  <cb22> right, for :) organizing this is going to be _fun_
2008-02-25T20:24:30  <xorAxAx> ah
2008-02-25T20:24:45  <xorAxAx> well, she seems to be constantly under ... workload
2008-02-25T20:24:51  <xorAxAx> even at the weekends
2008-02-25T20:25:24  <xorAxAx> cb22: are you already eligible to participate in GSOC 08 given that moin will be a project again?
2008-02-25T20:26:20  <grzywacz> :)
2008-02-25T20:29:12  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, we could already collect some appropriate project ideas, just for the case :D
2008-02-25T20:30:43  <grzywacz> Sure. I don't have any atm. ;)
2008-02-25T20:30:49  <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, any timeline for 1.7? ;)
2008-02-25T20:31:02  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, on teh wiki
2008-02-25T20:32:18  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTodo/Release%201.7.0
2008-02-25T20:32:44  <grzywacz> thx
2008-02-25T20:33:24  <johill> oh I'm supposed to check openid?
2008-02-25T20:33:25  <johill> heh
2008-02-25T20:34:07  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: i guess you are pre-destined(?) for that :)
2008-02-25T20:34:34  <johill> heh I guess I am, I just don't remember putting it there
2008-02-25T20:34:42  <johill> I have some patches for the openid stuff that I've been sitting on...
2008-02-25T20:34:45  <johill> for client tho
2008-02-25T20:34:50  <johill> server seems to work fine
2008-02-25T20:34:55  <johill> I'm using it (once a while)
2008-02-25T20:35:06  <ThomasWaldmann> 1.7 in general needs testings
2008-02-25T20:35:22  <johill> yeah, I need to upgrade on linuxwireless.org et al
2008-02-25T20:35:28  <johill> I'm running an old 1.7 version there
2008-02-25T20:35:32  <ThomasWaldmann> jabber, openid, new logging, new arg parser, ...
2008-02-25T20:35:46  <grzywacz> ok, bookmarked. afk for now
2008-02-25T20:35:52  <johill> jabber I haven't tested, but my version still has a problem with trivial changes
2008-02-25T20:36:01  <johill> suppose that has been fixed long ago
2008-02-25T20:40:25  <johill> why do you want to branch 1.8 that early btw? is there so much work going on that should go in soon?
2008-02-25T20:41:00  <johill> I mean, it seems likely that nobody is going to want a 1.8 branch for major work and wouldn't it then be easier to branch it later?
2008-02-25T20:44:54  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: soc stuff (IF...), storage branch integration, ...
2008-02-25T20:45:22  <johill> k
2008-02-25T20:45:48  <ThomasWaldmann> it depends a bit on external timing. if nobody needs 1.8, we can also continue improving 1.7 until we need it.
2008-02-25T20:46:02  <johill> yeah, obviously
2008-02-25T20:46:15  <johill> just looked like you had it planned at a fixed point which confused me a bit
2008-02-25T20:46:20  <cb22> xorAxAx: not for two years :/ i'm still only 16 atm. also, i'm not too sure if i can participate in south africa (although my parents want to send me to a university in america)
2008-02-25T20:46:39  <ThomasWaldmann> the point mostly is not to put lots of new stuff into 1.7, so we can release it soon.
2008-02-25T20:46:49  <johill> yeah, obviously
2008-02-25T20:47:46  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: soc is global (except for some axis of evil states)
2008-02-25T20:47:46  <johill> hm
2008-02-25T20:47:46  <johill> that reminds me
2008-02-25T20:47:48  <johill> we need to grep for "UserPreferences"
2008-02-25T20:47:50  <johill> I think there are some references still
2008-02-25T20:48:17  <xorAxAx> cb22: ah
2008-02-25T20:49:46  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: he could mentor :D
2008-02-25T20:50:44  <xorAxAx> yes
2008-02-25T20:52:21  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: with a bit more training and moin experience, I am sure you could do that, if you like :)
2008-02-25T20:58:10  * ThomasWaldmann continues with forward ports
2008-02-25T21:07:41  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3112:dc182f4936b1 1.7/MoinMoin/log.py: logging: add missing file for previous changeset 79f850129782)
2008-02-25T21:31:16  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3113:3489709aa99f 1.7/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): AdvancedSearch: make multipe categories/languages/mimetype selections possible, thanks to James Sun (crptone@gmail.com, ported from 1.6)
2008-02-25T21:34:18  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3114:338ad6aee6da 1.7/MoinMoin/search/queryparser.py: AdvancedSearch: fix domain:system search crashing
2008-02-25T21:39:08  <xorAxAx> 5 mio. USD this time
2008-02-25T21:39:27  <xorAxAx> not much worth in EUR but still a lot of money to spend on students and opensource
2008-02-25T21:40:32  <ThomasWaldmann> ghop?
2008-02-25T21:41:16  <cb22> ThomasWaldmann: mentor?
2008-02-25T21:43:34  <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: gsoc
2008-02-25T21:44:59  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: you mean 2007 or 2008?
2008-02-25T21:45:13  <xorAxAx> 2008
2008-02-25T21:45:29  <ThomasWaldmann> so it's official?
2008-02-25T21:46:08  <xorAxAx> gsoc was announced today and i found the 5 mio figure in another channel a few minutes ago
2008-02-25T21:46:22  <ThomasWaldmann> http://code.google.com/soc/2008
2008-02-25T21:46:54  <ThomasWaldmann> ugh, that's rsn
2008-02-25T21:47:33  <ThomasWaldmann> cb22: a mentor is a developer with moin experience caring for a soc student
2008-02-25T22:06:21  * ThomasWaldmann copies GoogleSoc2007 to ...08
2008-02-25T22:15:49  <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2008/InitialProjectIdeas < add more there
2008-02-25T22:20:48  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: please check the openid stuff there, what is still not done / wanted?
2008-02-25T22:21:48  <johill> I think both is done
2008-02-25T22:22:55  <ThomasWaldmann> what's that shib* stuff?
2008-02-25T22:24:17  <johill> no idea
2008-02-25T22:24:22  <johill> never heard of that
2008-02-25T22:24:36  * ThomasWaldmann neither X)
2008-02-25T22:25:12  <johill> not sure if auth is really suited for a SoC task
2008-02-25T22:25:39  <johill> openid has a lot of extensions but it is very much defined by the local policy how to use them
2008-02-25T22:25:51  <johill> I also have patches to enable doing stuff like that from the config file
2008-02-25T22:31:44  <johill> extending moin groups would be nice but probably somewhat awkward
2008-02-25T22:32:26  <johill> in any case, that seems like a bunch of smaller tasks rather than one larger, well-defined one
2008-02-25T23:31:45  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, we can do the 1.7 _() review soon
2008-02-25T23:34:14  <ThomasWaldmann> and invert the formatted default
2008-02-25T23:54:06  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3115:cd6cfc715261 1.7/ (22 files in 13 dirs): replace wikiwikiweb.de by moinmo.in, replace contact Juergen Hermann by Thomas Waldmann, cleanup wikiconfig (ported from 1.6)