2008-05-16T08:49:39 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-05-16T09:01:22 <gizmach> ThomasWaldmann: moin
2008-05-16T09:08:45 <dreimark> moin
2008-05-16T11:19:53 *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ
2008-05-16T17:30:43 <TheSheep> http://moin.sheep.art.pl/ <-- these are the changes I had in mind since a long time
2008-05-16T17:30:57 <TheSheep> http://sheep.art.pl/devel/modernized/ <-- the changelog
2008-05-16T17:34:38 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: page_front_page =uu"something"
2008-05-16T17:34:44 <ThomasWaldmann> arg
2008-05-16T17:34:50 <TheSheep> ?
2008-05-16T17:35:28 <ThomasWaldmann> it shows me the default german StartSeite
2008-05-16T17:51:24 <TheSheep> ah, right, it's been migrated since 1.3.5
2008-05-16T19:07:08 <zenhase> TheSheep: this looks quite nice
2008-05-16T19:08:12 <zenhase> subtle change, but i still think this would be an improvement
2008-05-16T19:09:49 <zenhase> btw, is there a reason why it isn't xhtml but still html 4.01? (ok ok, i know that it's basically the same, but still i want to know ;D)
2008-05-16T19:18:27 <TheSheep> zenhase: yeah, xhtml wouldn't allow such sloppy code as is generated now
2008-05-16T19:18:40 <TheSheep> zenhase: it will be fixed this summer, hopefully
2008-05-16T19:28:46 <TheSheep> I wonder if it's ok now to use png images with alpha channel
2008-05-16T19:30:15 <zenhase> TheSheep: the parser/formatter task i presume
2008-05-16T20:52:34 <LotekMarcel> somebody here where knows bit about running moinmoin with wsgi? got a question.
2008-05-16T20:57:10 <LotekMarcel> Is it necessary to use WSGIDaemonProcess; performance should be better without a additional Daemon; maybe see on http://code.google.com/p/modwsgi/wiki/PerformanceEstimates
2008-05-16T21:05:44 <LotekMarcel> atleast on my 1.7beta2 it's not working (e.g. can't view SystemInfo) without daemon, *grumbel* :-(
2008-05-16T21:08:21 <ThomasWaldmann> use daemon mode
2008-05-16T21:08:53 <LotekMarcel> sure; deamon mode is working; just saw a note that direct would be faster... but it's not working without troubles, right?
2008-05-16T21:09:01 <ThomasWaldmann> the embedded mode is unsecure, badly manageable, and doesnt seperate stuff cleanly
2008-05-16T21:09:18 <ThomasWaldmann> you won't notice a speed difference
2008-05-16T21:09:37 <ThomasWaldmann> (i didn't try, but that's a reasonable guess :)
2008-05-16T21:10:03 <LotekMarcel> ok, thanks! was just wondering
2008-05-16T21:11:14 <ThomasWaldmann> and mod_wsgi is really good at daemon control
2008-05-16T21:12:44 <ThomasWaldmann> esp. 2.0
2008-05-16T21:12:45 <LotekMarcel> yea you right; I even can use it on my shared hosting with only ~80MB memory.
2008-05-16T21:13:22 <ThomasWaldmann> ugh
2008-05-16T21:14:00 <ThomasWaldmann> even a single moin process can get bigger. restart the daemon often.
2008-05-16T21:15:06 <LotekMarcel> it's working since a few weeks without troubles
2008-05-16T21:15:12 <LotekMarcel> using something like WSGIDaemonProcess daemonwiki user=lotek group=lotek processes=2 threads=10 maximum-requests=100
2008-05-16T21:15:34 <LotekMarcel> maximum-requests should be 1'000... anyway
2008-05-16T22:58:03 <dreimark> johill: can you verify a AttachFile problem on MM
2008-05-16T22:58:15 <johill> hm? how?
2008-05-16T22:58:44 <dreimark> I have problems to upload a file smaller as 1K
2008-05-16T22:58:53 <johill> heh
2008-05-16T22:59:03 <dreimark> it is 0B there
2008-05-16T22:59:30 <johill> same here
2008-05-16T22:59:40 <dreimark> I file a bugreport
2008-05-16T22:59:44 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: moin is optimized for big stuff now :D
2008-05-16T23:00:03 * johill suggests to fix the bug by padding all files to >1K now
2008-05-16T23:02:37 <ThomasWaldmann> johill: happens on moinmo.in?
2008-05-16T23:03:05 <johill> yes, just verified
2008-05-16T23:03:14 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/AttachmentUploadTooSmal
2008-05-16T23:03:17 <dreimark> l
2008-05-16T23:04:06 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: happens on standalone also?
2008-05-16T23:04:54 <dreimark> moment
2008-05-16T23:06:11 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yes it does happen in 1.7 standalone too
2008-05-16T23:07:55 <dreimark> a new wikidicts patch http://paste.pocoo.org/show/50918/
2008-05-16T23:09:05 <dreimark> and an other one for macro.__init__
2008-05-16T23:09:07 <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/50919/
2008-05-16T23:09:34 <dreimark> I do want to be able to import macro using request_cli
2008-05-16T23:10:34 <ThomasWaldmann> then it is likely related to my bigfile optimization and FieldStorage doing things differently for files <1K
2008-05-16T23:12:08 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: i guess this refreshes all the time
2008-05-16T23:12:15 <dreimark> no
2008-05-16T23:12:21 <ThomasWaldmann> why not?
2008-05-16T23:12:44 <dreimark> because it is not always the same time
2008-05-16T23:13:07 <dreimark> current_disk_cache_mtime: 1210972377.0
2008-05-16T23:13:13 <dreimark> self.disk_cache_mtime: 1210972376.0
2008-05-16T23:13:53 <dreimark> I needed 3 calls of the test script to get the time doubled
2008-05-16T23:14:07 <ThomasWaldmann> and IIRC i already told you that this way to patch macro just hides a problem, but is not solving it
2008-05-16T23:14:30 <johill> is that not what moin is about?
2008-05-16T23:14:31 * johill hides
2008-05-16T23:15:39 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: put a logging call at the place where you call self.reset and see
2008-05-16T23:16:07 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: you have to call i18n_init()
2008-05-16T23:21:57 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: alternatively, look at this line:
2008-05-16T23:22:00 <ThomasWaldmann> self.disk_cache_mtime = current_disk_cache_mtime
2008-05-16T23:25:40 <dreimark> ok seen it too, it is resetting always
2008-05-16T23:26:10 <dreimark> it's dodgy
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