2008-05-19T08:38:45 <dreimark> moin
2008-05-19T08:38:58 <dreimark> with doing preview LoadDraft is missing too
2008-05-19T08:43:23 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-05-19T09:02:52 <dreimark> it got broken somewhere between rev 2966 and top of MoinMoin/Page.py
2008-05-19T09:12:38 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/diff/d563a49e0054/MoinMoin/Page.py
2008-05-19T09:13:11 <dreimark> this cs does break it
2008-05-19T09:17:24 <dreimark> I mean that is the first one where it stops previewing of a new page
2008-05-19T09:30:20 <ThomasWaldmann> i doubt that
2008-05-19T09:31:43 <dreimark> well I'm not saying that this one breaks it but doing hg revert --rev 3285 MoinMoin/Page.py
2008-05-19T09:31:54 <dreimark> and it works in my testwiki
2008-05-19T09:35:04 <ThomasWaldmann> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/rev/fc5e23d62d56 likely this one breaks it
2008-05-19T09:46:04 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i guess i fixed it
2008-05-19T09:47:11 <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3620:25431c5a76f9 1.7/MoinMoin/Page.py: fix editor preview not working for new pages
2008-05-19T09:48:04 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: please check if the other problem you noticed still happens, if yes, please describe how to reproduce
2008-05-19T09:50:14 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it does
2008-05-19T09:51:18 <dreimark> but I'm not sure if it is a bug
2008-05-19T09:51:42 <dreimark> because you get a new draft from the preview if you don't save
2008-05-19T09:51:53 <dreimark> so it is the same version as the preview one
2008-05-19T09:52:09 <dreimark> and you don't need to get the Load Draft button
2008-05-19T09:53:23 <dreimark> (currently i do think graying out diabling that button instead of removing it would be better)
2008-05-19T09:55:02 <ThomasWaldmann> was this different in 1.6?
2008-05-19T09:55:14 * dreimark looks
2008-05-19T09:56:10 <dreimark> no
2008-05-19T09:56:40 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then don't change :)
2008-05-19T09:56:42 <dreimark> same in 1.6
2008-05-19T11:19:27 <ThomasWaldman2> TheSheep: if you have time: http://master17.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/pl
2008-05-19T11:22:33 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, most MoinI18n subpages on master17.moinmo.in have >100 missing/fuzzy strings
2008-05-19T12:29:14 <zenhase> yeah! the gift arrived :)
2008-05-19T12:29:19 <zenhase> and moin btw.
2008-05-19T12:33:39 <dennda> zenhase: I have some suspicion on what it is
2008-05-19T12:33:51 <dennda> there was a "keyword" on the ML
2008-05-19T12:33:52 <dennda> :)
2008-05-19T12:34:33 <zenhase> dennda: where do you live?
2008-05-19T12:34:48 <dennda> hm?
2008-05-19T12:34:51 <dennda> Koblenz
2008-05-19T12:34:52 <zenhase> i mean on saturday it was still in frankfurt
2008-05-19T12:34:56 <zenhase> my package that is
2008-05-19T12:35:03 <dennda> yes, mine either
2008-05-19T12:35:05 <dennda> lemme check
2008-05-19T12:35:13 <zenhase> so perhaps it will arrive today :D
2008-05-19T12:35:20 <dennda> The destination I provided is my parents home
2008-05-19T12:35:31 <dennda> as I cannot gurantee to be always available around here
2008-05-19T12:35:44 <zenhase> you have no fixed address where you live? :o
2008-05-19T12:36:14 <dennda> I do have two of those :)
2008-05-19T12:36:29 <zenhase> :P
2008-05-19T12:36:36 <dennda> My parents live quite near, only 45 minutes. Thus I'm sometimes at home
2008-05-19T12:36:43 <zenhase> oh ok
2008-05-19T12:37:08 <dennda> On FedEx vehicle for delivery
2008-05-19T12:37:12 <dennda> dusseldorf
2008-05-19T12:37:48 <zenhase> :D
2008-05-19T12:38:02 <zenhase> well, then have fun when it arrives
2008-05-19T12:38:16 <zenhase> btw. which keywords do you mean?
2008-05-19T12:38:42 <dennda> "beautiful" in combination with a book and the given context lead me to one good hit on amazon
2008-05-19T12:40:23 <zenhase> hmm, did not see those ... but then i am not reading the ML very carefully (except the 'IMPORTANT!' mails from leslie)
2008-05-19T12:40:47 <dennda> Yes, I do the same but stumbled across it
2008-05-19T12:41:13 <zenhase> but i hope they get their shipping system right ... i moved a few rooms in my dorm 2 weeks ago
2008-05-19T12:41:27 <zenhase> and changed the address immediatly
2008-05-19T12:41:49 <zenhase> but they still shipped to the other room
2008-05-19T12:41:54 <dennda> well, obviously it arrived
2008-05-19T12:41:59 <dennda> ah
2008-05-19T12:42:00 <zenhase> well, of course
2008-05-19T12:42:18 <zenhase> but i think about what happens with the payment stuff
2008-05-19T12:42:36 <dennda> don't worry, trust them
2008-05-19T12:42:39 <zenhase> it will be shipped via ordinary mail i suppose
2008-05-19T12:42:57 <zenhase> and if they get the room wrong here, it won't arrive in my mailbox
2008-05-19T12:43:39 <zenhase> it's a big dorm with ... let's say complicated caretakers
2008-05-19T12:44:08 <zenhase> they don't get along with the students very well and so sometimes make life hard on us
2008-05-19T12:44:28 <zenhase> like for example bouncing mail if the room number isn't the correct one
2008-05-19T12:45:11 <zenhase> the gift was no problem, because it was delivered to the door of our floor by the fedex guy
2008-05-19T12:45:21 <zenhase> but normal mail can be a problem
2008-05-19T12:46:49 <zenhase> well, let's see
2008-05-19T13:08:51 <dreimark> bbl
2008-05-19T14:02:39 <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3621:c0d6bc8f7c29 1.7/MoinMoin/config/__init__.py: add ssh protocol to url_schemas
2008-05-19T15:02:54 <dreimark> re
2008-05-19T15:17:05 * dreimark has fixed the syntax of the PageList command on http://test17.moinmo.in/MoinMoinQuestions
2008-05-19T15:54:16 <dreimark> may be we should ask textcha question using untranslated msg strings
2008-05-19T16:16:10 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ?
2008-05-19T16:17:40 <dreimark> the fix is to close the PageList macro
2008-05-19T16:17:44 <dreimark> on the page
2008-05-19T16:18:56 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann:
2008-05-19T16:31:36 <ThomasWaldmann> well...
2008-05-19T16:33:41 <ThomasWaldmann> otoh that change seems valid, because an opening bracket in a regex should be closed somehow
2008-05-19T16:34:36 <ThomasWaldmann> otoh the param parser should not look into that
2008-05-19T16:34:49 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe what that really needs there is quoting?
2008-05-19T16:35:01 <ThomasWaldmann> at least it should not crash in the way it did
2008-05-19T16:35:10 <ThomasWaldmann> johill: http://test17.moinmo.in/4ct10n/diff/MoinMoinQuestions/UsingTheWiki?action=diff
2008-05-19T16:35:50 <johill> ThomasWaldmann: and?
2008-05-19T16:36:11 <ThomasWaldmann> look at the revision before the "fix"
2008-05-19T16:37:00 <ThomasWaldmann> i think it shouldn't give a backtrace, but something more end-user friendly
2008-05-19T16:37:01 <johill> cute
2008-05-19T16:37:33 <ThomasWaldmann> johill: you mean the nice red box? :P
2008-05-19T16:37:34 <johill> I thought all the things that called the query parser would be prepared for invalid queries....
2008-05-19T16:45:21 <CIA-49> Johannes Berg <johannes AT sipsolutions DOT net> default * 3622:29ae93c888f2 1.7/MoinMoin/macro/PageList.py: fix PageList macro with search errors
2008-05-19T16:51:29 * dennda is annoyed by VCS not providing any information on operation-progress :/
2008-05-19T16:52:54 <ThomasWaldmann> that's because it is usually so fast you don't need it :)
2008-05-19T16:53:29 <johill> I wish it was any faster
2008-05-19T16:53:35 <johill> and provided an option to not reclone the whole history all the time
2008-05-19T16:53:50 * johill ponders pulling it into git
2008-05-19T16:56:01 <ThomasWaldmann> iiiigitt :)
2008-05-19T16:56:51 <johill> that's what people say who have no decent rebuttal and know their chosen system is inferior :)
2008-05-19T16:56:52 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, if someone has a slow link so that cloning takes ages, it might be a good idea to keep a clean clone of the main wikis and do local clones for working
2008-05-19T16:57:13 <johill> but local clones also take gobs of disk space which is totally pointless for all the history. which is just one reason why hg sucks
2008-05-19T16:57:26 <ThomasWaldmann> no, that's what python people say when looking at hacks like git :)
2008-05-19T16:57:50 <dreimark> flame war ?
2008-05-19T16:58:11 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, put on your asbestos underwear :D
2008-05-19T16:58:26 <johill> nah, no use, I know git is technologically superiour and the python apologists are f'ed in their heads ;)
2008-05-19T16:59:56 <xorAxAx> johill: ?
2008-05-19T17:00:05 <xorAxAx> johill: the clones dont take any disk space for history
2008-05-19T17:00:11 <xorAxAx> besides the directory overhead
2008-05-19T17:00:24 <johill> chosing a VCS based on the language it is implementede in is imho just wrong
2008-05-19T17:01:03 <johill> xorAxAx: well but that's also a useless operation
2008-05-19T17:01:21 <ThomasWaldmann> except if you want not to close out windows developers
2008-05-19T17:01:23 <johill> I cannot easily check out another branch w/o pulling all history again
2008-05-19T17:01:39 <johill> xorAxAx: besides
2008-05-19T17:01:45 <johill> $ hg clone moin-1.7 mo17
2008-05-19T17:01:49 <johill> $ du -hs mo17/.hg
2008-05-19T17:01:58 <johill> 61M mo17/.hg
2008-05-19T17:02:02 <johill> directory overhead my ass
2008-05-19T17:02:40 <xorAxAx> johill: you are using du incorrectly :-P
2008-05-19T17:02:54 * ThomasWaldmann gives johill 0.20 EUR for 1GB more disk space :)
2008-05-19T17:03:34 <johill> xorAxAx: it doesn't matter anyway since it wastes a lot of space when I want to check out another branch which isn't trivial
2008-05-19T17:03:46 <johill> (I mean, not trivial to do "correctly" to share history)
2008-05-19T17:03:55 <johill> ("share" I should say)
2008-05-19T17:07:09 <xorAxAx> johill: ?
2008-05-19T17:07:17 <xorAxAx> johill: you mean when you want to check out another repo?
2008-05-19T17:07:59 <johill> exactly
2008-05-19T17:08:19 <xorAxAx> yeah
2008-05-19T17:08:42 <johill> which really is dumb, probably caused by thinking too much in terms of files
2008-05-19T17:08:49 <johill> rather than their contents
2008-05-19T17:09:03 <johill> if I clone a different repo that is 99% identical, I can't really easily share stuff
2008-05-19T17:09:08 <johill> even if it has the same history
2008-05-19T17:09:24 <johill> I can possibly clone a local one and try pto pull in the remot one hoping they have a common ancestor or something
2008-05-19T17:09:28 <johill> but that's a workaround at best
2008-05-19T17:13:22 <johill> ThomasWaldmann: and it's not about the disk space either, it's about the consumed bandwidth, space, filesystem cache when working in multiple branches etc.
2008-05-19T18:21:52 <dreimark> johill: ping
2008-05-19T18:22:24 <dreimark> see query
2008-05-19T18:32:02 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: see query
2008-05-19T18:49:45 <dennda> Hm, can't I bind the local development server to another adress than 127.0.0.1:8080?
2008-05-19T18:58:58 <dreimark> bbl
2008-05-19T18:59:33 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: later
2008-05-19T18:59:39 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: wikiserverconfig.py
2008-05-19T18:59:50 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm dennda that was
2008-05-19T18:59:50 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: still here not much time
2008-05-19T19:00:31 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: did you see the query?
2008-05-19T19:00:46 <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: hm there was no entry that seemed related to that
2008-05-19T19:00:53 <dennda> do I need to create it?
2008-05-19T19:01:03 <TheSheep> dreimark: what about the icon spacing with messages?
2008-05-19T19:01:12 <TheSheep> dreimark: how can I help?
2008-05-19T19:02:34 <dreimark> TheSheep: if you try edit cancel on test17
2008-05-19T19:02:42 <dreimark> then the alert is shown
2008-05-19T19:02:57 <dreimark> the text is not in the middle of the icon+
2008-05-19T19:03:04 <dreimark> or it is too close
2008-05-19T19:03:09 <TheSheep> dreimark: I see
2008-05-19T19:03:32 <dreimark> that could become nicer
2008-05-19T19:05:58 <dreimark> bbl
2008-05-19T19:15:04 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: did you add my key to hg? I seem to not be able to push
2008-05-19T19:18:24 <johill> dreimark: pong, just returned
2008-05-19T19:18:38 <johill> dreimark: I don't have a query from you, are you logged in? :)
2008-05-19T19:19:03 <dennda> johill: Where's my picture? :)
2008-05-19T19:19:34 <johill> dennda: ohh. sorry, we don't actually have a digital camera
2008-05-19T19:19:43 <dennda> oh :(
2008-05-19T19:30:37 <johill> dreimark: huh same password with ldap? I thought none would be saved at all
2008-05-19T19:37:20 <johill> dreimark: ok so it's {SHA}NotStored, but you cannot use that password at least in 1.7
2008-05-19T20:12:28 <dreimark> johill: you can
2008-05-19T20:12:37 <johill> how so?
2008-05-19T20:12:55 <dreimark> just enter it
2008-05-19T20:13:21 <johill> huh?
2008-05-19T20:13:33 <johill> in 1.7 you're no longer allowed to enter the hashed password
2008-05-19T20:14:29 <dreimark> johill: not the hashed one the enrypted one
2008-05-19T20:14:43 <dreimark> the cleartext one
2008-05-19T20:14:53 <johill> what is the cleartext one though?
2008-05-19T20:15:03 <johill> I mean, "NotStored" isn't valid base64, so...
2008-05-19T20:15:40 <dreimark> {SHA}NotStored
2008-05-19T20:16:20 <johill> right
2008-05-19T20:16:25 <johill> ohhh
2008-05-19T20:16:36 <johill> yeah that's a very stupid bug in the auth methods
2008-05-19T20:16:48 <johill> not that it's new
2008-05-19T20:17:33 <dreimark> yeah
2008-05-19T20:18:00 <dreimark> bbl after dinner
2008-05-19T20:18:02 <johill> well read the discussion on #moin
2008-05-19T20:18:10 <johill> I just had with vxp
2008-05-19T20:18:14 <johill> we need to change all this anyhow
2008-05-19T20:18:47 <dreimark> will read later
2008-05-19T20:19:05 <johill> ok, later
2008-05-19T20:19:06 <dreimark> ldap is a task of gizmach
2008-05-19T20:19:32 <johill> right. this is a bit orthogonal though it really could use designing together
2008-05-19T20:47:43 <CIA-49> Radomir Dopieralski <moindev@sheep.art.pl> default * 3623:c02522af6533 1.7/wiki/htdocs/modern/css/common.css: Center the message icons and fix their spacing
2008-05-19T20:49:51 * ThomasWaldmann looks
2008-05-19T20:58:36 <ThomasWaldmann> does that align middle work?
2008-05-19T20:59:29 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: it does
2008-05-19T21:00:25 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, that clear message link could also get a bit more spacing
2008-05-19T21:00:54 <TheSheep> and smaller font
2008-05-19T21:01:32 <TheSheep> unfortunately, I don't have any way to distinguish it from any other link inside the message
2008-05-19T21:02:10 <TheSheep> I could lover the whole 'buttons' div
2008-05-19T21:02:13 <TheSheep> lower
2008-05-19T21:02:30 <TheSheep> thank you mr Freud
2008-05-19T21:02:46 <ThomasWaldmann> lower?
2008-05-19T21:02:55 <TheSheep> set a margin-top on the div.buttons
2008-05-19T21:03:36 <TheSheep> but that will also increase the sapcing between any form and buttons in the message area
2008-05-19T21:03:53 <TheSheep> for example, in rename page action
2008-05-19T21:04:08 <ThomasWaldmann> just add some id or class for that stuff
2008-05-19T21:05:12 * TheSheep forces himself to break the "either you write css or you edit html" rule ;)
2008-05-19T21:09:01 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: how about right-aligning it, once we are at it?
2008-05-19T21:10:33 <ThomasWaldmann> how's that better?
2008-05-19T21:11:05 <ThomasWaldmann> and must it be left-aligned for rtl then?
2008-05-19T21:11:15 <TheSheep> probably
2008-05-19T21:11:46 <TheSheep> I will make it smaller and lower it for now
2008-05-19T21:13:24 <CIA-49> Radomir Dopieralski <moindev@sheep.art.pl> default * 3624:2b577967030b 1.7/ (MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py wiki/htdocs/modern/css/common.css):
2008-05-19T21:13:24 <CIA-49> Add a class to the "Clear message" link, make the link text smaller and lower
2008-05-19T21:13:24 <CIA-49> it a little in the Modern theme.
2008-05-19T21:17:33 <ThomasWaldmann> better
2008-05-19T22:52:42 <johill> anyone heard of open-tran.eu?
2008-05-19T23:07:31 <vpv> johill: yeah, it's nice :)
2008-05-19T23:08:20 <johill> should we use it?
2008-05-19T23:09:08 <vpv> you mean submit Moin's translations to it?
2008-05-19T23:12:41 <johill> yeah and use it to pull in things
2008-05-19T23:14:19 <johill> is there a problem with groups in current 1.7?
2008-05-19T23:14:35 <johill> I have people in a group who cannot write suddenly
2008-05-19T23:14:45 <vpv> what could be pulled in from open-tran? or do you mean some sort of automatic translation?
2008-05-19T23:15:18 <johill> well checking our translations against theirs and maybe pulling things, yeah
2008-05-19T23:15:28 <johill> I thought that was the point, to have consistent translations by checking against their database
2008-05-19T23:17:04 <vpv> I've only used it as a dictionary while translating, I'm not sure you can really "check" anything with them, for example the Gnome and KDE groups of the same language could use different words for the same thing etc.
2008-05-19T23:18:27 <vpv> but maybe it would be possible to do some sort of raw, fuzzy translations for languages with not so good translation coverage
2008-05-19T23:18:32 <johill> something is definitely fishy with groups, my acl isn't working
2008-05-19T23:18:39 <johill> but checking the group dict manually is fine
2008-05-19T23:21:49 <johill> dreimark: any idea?
2008-05-19T23:26:25 <dreimark> re
2008-05-19T23:26:30 * dreimark has to read first
2008-05-19T23:26:54 <johill> don't bother I can explain in two sentences
2008-05-19T23:27:06 <johill> I have a TestGroup with " * Johannes" on it,
2008-05-19T23:27:13 <johill> I'm logged in as "Johannes"
2008-05-19T23:27:15 <johill> my acl is
2008-05-19T23:27:26 <johill> acl_enabled = True
2008-05-19T23:27:26 <johill> acl_rights_default = 'All:read TestGroup:read,write,revert'
2008-05-19T23:27:29 <johill> yet I cannot edit
2008-05-19T23:29:01 <dreimark> arrgh
2008-05-19T23:29:27 <dreimark> All has to be at the end per definition
2008-05-19T23:29:57 <dreimark> I am running regular into this too
2008-05-19T23:30:04 <dreimark> johill:
2008-05-19T23:30:06 <johill> oops
2008-05-19T23:30:07 <johill> however
2008-05-19T23:30:15 <johill> I have a wiki where it is at the end
2008-05-19T23:30:31 <johill> acl_rights_before = u"JohannesBerg:read,write,delete,revert,admin"
2008-05-19T23:30:39 <johill> acl_rights_after = u"SpecEditorsGroup:read,write,delete,revert All:read"
2008-05-19T23:30:44 <johill> acl_rights_default = u"SpecEditorsGroup:read,write,delete,revert All:read"
2008-05-19T23:30:50 <johill> and a user who is in that group still cannot edit
2008-05-19T23:31:06 <johill> was just trying for a quick reproduce locally
2008-05-19T23:31:12 <johill> now I cannot reproduce locally :/
2008-05-19T23:31:33 <dreimark> all uptodate ?
2008-05-19T23:31:33 <johill> vpv: hm yeah but what is the use then? just the dictionary?
2008-05-19T23:31:55 <johill> need to check the remote one
2008-05-19T23:33:08 <dreimark> and check SystemAdmin if he is really in that group
2008-05-19T23:33:23 <johill> SpecEditorsGroup you mean :)
2008-05-19T23:33:25 <johill> ah
2008-05-19T23:33:40 <johill> well that would be odd
2008-05-19T23:35:15 <johill> ok the wiki is up to date now
2008-05-19T23:35:18 <johill> but the bug still occurs
2008-05-19T23:35:50 <johill> users are, however, all shown as not belonging to any group at all
2008-05-19T23:36:14 <johill> wtf?
2008-05-19T23:37:19 <dreimark> you should restart the server process after Thomas's changes, did you?
2008-05-19T23:37:35 <johill> I always restart after upgrades or any config changes
2008-05-19T23:37:39 <dreimark> ok
2008-05-19T23:37:59 <johill> oh I see
2008-05-19T23:38:00 <johill> crap
2008-05-19T23:38:14 <johill> the defaults for the gropu regex are somehow in my config
2008-05-19T23:38:29 <johill> but those are the *old* defaults which no longer work, apparently
2008-05-19T23:38:59 <dreimark> hmm, probably it is a good idea to show them on the SystemAdmin page too
2008-05-19T23:39:05 <dreimark> -> 1.8
2008-05-19T23:39:26 <johill> that sucks because the defaults are in the dfeault config file people copy
2008-05-19T23:42:07 <johill> hm. this didn't help! still no gropus shown on system admin
2008-05-19T23:42:17 <dreimark> did we missed to change them there too?
2008-05-19T23:42:18 <johill> and not working either
2008-05-19T23:42:30 <johill> well you couldn't have changed them in my config file ;)
2008-05-19T23:42:35 <dreimark> yeah+
2008-05-19T23:43:13 <johill> but I removed them and that didn't help!
2008-05-19T23:43:16 <johill> now I'm stumped
2008-05-19T23:43:28 <dreimark> stop the server
2008-05-19T23:43:34 <dreimark> moin maint cleancache
2008-05-19T23:43:45 <dreimark> restart the server
2008-05-19T23:44:05 <johill> cleancache? ahrg
2008-05-19T23:44:18 <dreimark> or remove only the dict_goups file
2008-05-19T23:45:32 <johill> hrm
2008-05-19T23:45:33 <dreimark> dicts
2008-05-19T23:45:37 <johill> yeah
2008-05-19T23:45:41 <dreimark> wiki/data/cache/wikiconfig/wikidicts
2008-05-19T23:46:39 <johill> still no go
2008-05-19T23:47:36 <dreimark> and there is still no user shown in SystemAdmin in a group?
2008-05-19T23:48:19 <johill> taking a bit
2008-05-19T23:48:58 <johill> working now, odd
2008-05-19T23:49:00 <johill> thanks
2008-05-19T23:49:42 <dreimark> somehow strange
2008-05-19T23:50:30 <dreimark> how much users/dicts do you have can it be a timeout ?
2008-05-19T23:50:36 <johill> nah
2008-05-19T23:50:42 <johill> just a single group, maybe 20 users
2008-05-19T23:51:22 <johill> that dict caching, couldn't it rebuild automatically?
2008-05-19T23:51:58 <dreimark> it does normally with an edit of any Group page
2008-05-19T23:52:33 <dreimark> the problem we have had was about that the dict cache file was not loaded
2008-05-19T23:52:43 <dreimark> always on any fast change
2008-05-19T23:52:48 <johill> hm
2008-05-19T23:52:49 <dreimark> (very fast)
2008-05-19T23:52:54 <johill> I don't think I ddi that :)
2008-05-19T23:54:46 <dreimark> do you have some log entries ?
2008-05-19T23:55:05 <dreimark> may be the file was corrupt?
2008-05-19T23:55:24 <johill> nothing in the log at all
2008-05-19T23:55:51 <dreimark> do you have saved a copy of the old file?
2008-05-19T23:55:57 <johill> don't bother. probably just caused by me (wrongly?) thinking caches would automatically be invalidated ;)
2008-05-19T23:56:02 <johill> no, sorry
2008-05-19T23:56:20 <johill> that said, my log is actually spotless. good stuff, until recently it was huge MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-05-19 (last edited 2008-05-19 06:45:02 by IrcLogImporter)
