MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-05-22

2008-05-22T00:30:49  <ThomasWaldmann> re
2008-05-22T00:30:55  * ThomasWaldmann tries to merge
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2008-05-22T10:47:19  <zenhase> moin
2008-05-22T10:54:01  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-05-22T12:03:46  <ThomasWaldmann> byeongweon: hi moon :)
2008-05-22T12:04:08  <byeongweon> ThomasWaldmann: hi :)
2008-05-22T12:04:33  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3812:ece223bb3dc5 1.7-storage-hwendel/ (82 files in 26 dirs): merged main up to changeset 3461:2f1100735fa4
2008-05-22T12:04:42  <ThomasWaldmann> iirc i am still missing an ssh pubkey from you. so if you want to start working monday, please submit a ssh pubkey via email to tw-public AT gmx DOT de
2008-05-22T12:05:24  <ThomasWaldmann> (and if you ever had it on a debian system, please check make sure it has not to be considered compromised)
2008-05-22T12:05:36  <byeongweon> ok, I thinks make ssh key is first.
2008-05-22T12:05:59  <ThomasWaldmann> are you working on debian/ubuntu/other debian clones?
2008-05-22T12:06:51  <byeongweon> no, I'm working on windows xp system.
2008-05-22T12:07:51  <byeongweon> I should make ssh key for subversion. I think.
2008-05-22T12:08:06  <ThomasWaldmann> we use mercurial :)
2008-05-22T12:08:18  <byeongweon> oh, just type mistake.
2008-05-22T12:08:25  <byeongweon> :-)
2008-05-22T12:08:29  <ThomasWaldmann> and you have 4 days left to look at it :)
2008-05-22T12:08:41  <byeongweon> yes, I know.
2008-05-22T12:09:07  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3832:85bcb1b756be 1.7-storage-hwendel/ (21 files in 13 dirs): merged main up to changeset 3480:b318efb0136b
2008-05-22T12:10:30  <byeongweon> I'll make that key and send that mail soon. but for the first find google how to make it.
2008-05-22T12:11:25  <johill> putty has a keygen tool
2008-05-22T12:11:55  <ThomasWaldmann> ssh-keygen (and please use a passphrase and keep the secret key secret :)
2008-05-22T12:16:07  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: You don't have a key from me either, do you?
2008-05-22T12:16:27  <xorAxAx> hi byeongweon
2008-05-22T12:16:42  <byeongweon> xorAxAx: hi.
2008-05-22T12:17:02  <byeongweon> I read your mail. and prepare reply now.
2008-05-22T12:17:13  * dennda needs to create new ones. He will do that today. The one in launchpad is compromised
2008-05-22T12:17:19  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: iirc no
2008-05-22T12:17:29  <dennda> Ok, I'll then send it to you
2008-05-22T12:17:43  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, use rsa :)
2008-05-22T12:17:59  <dennda> You seem to be the first knowing the difference
2008-05-22T12:18:03  <dennda> (Never looked it up)
2008-05-22T12:18:03  <dennda> Why?
2008-05-22T12:18:23  <xorAxAx> because dsa keys have a limited size, dennda
2008-05-22T12:18:25  <xorAxAx> in ssh
2008-05-22T12:18:26  <byeongweon> ThomasWaldmann: SSH-2(RSA) is ok?
2008-05-22T12:18:41  <dennda> xorAxAx: "size"?
2008-05-22T12:18:50  <xorAxAx> dennda: yes, its fixed-size 1024
2008-05-22T12:18:54  <dennda> speaking of bits?
2008-05-22T12:18:55  <dennda> ah ok
2008-05-22T12:19:05  <dennda> Didn't know that
2008-05-22T12:19:10  <dennda> Isn't 2048 standard?
2008-05-22T12:20:14  <ThomasWaldmann> and the dsa stuff showed more weakness in the recent debian desaster :)
2008-05-22T12:22:55  <ThomasWaldmann> byeongweon: yes
2008-05-22T12:24:22  <dennda> ok, thanks for the hint
2008-05-22T12:38:00  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3862:c09dbc8e77f8 1.7-storage-hwendel/ (105 files in 22 dirs): merged main up to changeset 3509:da1d5a2165f5
2008-05-22T12:40:19  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3880:b2edcb032cfa 1.7-storage-hwendel/ (71 files in 11 dirs): merged main up to changeset 3526:23ccc95cb0f4
2008-05-22T12:47:48  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3898:f121f6cd41d8 1.7-storage-hwendel/ (28 files in 12 dirs): merged main up to changeset 3543:fdb1014867d4 (1.7.0beta1)
2008-05-22T13:34:03  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: are you here?
2008-05-22T13:35:05  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2008-05-22T13:35:59  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I've talked with Pawel and he's still finishing the projects he has for school
2008-05-22T13:36:57  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: is it ok to start work at 26 May as in the schedule?
2008-05-22T13:40:29  <ThomasWaldmann> sure
2008-05-22T13:40:58  <ThomasWaldmann> starting early and looking at stuff is a good option, but no obligation
2008-05-22T13:41:27  <TheSheep> we are doing some research, just nothing tangible
2008-05-22T13:42:06  <TheSheep> btw, it seems like doing the same with Bazaar instead would be an order of magnitude easier :)
2008-05-22T13:42:47  <ThomasWaldmann> well, such stuff should be looked at before defining the project :)
2008-05-22T13:43:30  <TheSheep> no, no, Mercurial is better anyways :)
2008-05-22T13:43:57  <TheSheep> it's just ironic
2008-05-22T13:45:10  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, as you both will also use the storage branch, have a look at the current state
2008-05-22T13:45:30  <ThomasWaldmann> I am doing those merges, but I have no time for testing
2008-05-22T13:45:30  <TheSheep> yes, I've seen you merged it, right?
2008-05-22T13:45:38  <ThomasWaldmann> still merging
2008-05-22T14:02:35  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: please also test the storage branch
2008-05-22T14:07:16  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3901:8dcadb823353 1.7-storage-hwendel/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): merged main up to changeset 3545:7e4b68c11362
2008-05-22T14:14:41  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: so far so good
2008-05-22T14:15:05  <ThomasWaldmann> the next 5 changesets are harder to merge
2008-05-22T14:55:58  * ThomasWaldmann bbl
2008-05-22T14:59:36  <dreimark> re
2008-05-22T15:00:15  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: do you have checked the csv patch, does it work for your system too now?
2008-05-22T15:00:52  <dreimark> bbl2
2008-05-22T15:25:25  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: https://launchpad.net/~dennda/+sshkeys
2008-05-22T15:35:32  * dennda pulls
2008-05-22T15:42:10  * TheSheep realized he pulled a wrong repo
2008-05-22T16:08:27  <dennda> tests finished: 1307 passed, 23 failed, 67 skipped in 66.97 seconds
2008-05-22T16:11:56  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: if you do fixes, maybe don't commit bigger stuff as long as we are still merging
2008-05-22T16:12:53  <ThomasWaldmann> you could try merging the next few changesets :)
2008-05-22T16:13:01  * dennda didn't know there were that many tests
2008-05-22T16:14:03  * dennda has never done that before (in mercurial)
2008-05-22T16:15:28  <ThomasWaldmann> then you obviously need practice! :))
2008-05-22T16:15:54  <xorAxAx> dennda: most tests are the result of a semi-useless source code checker :-)
2008-05-22T16:16:02  <xorAxAx> ... test generator
2008-05-22T16:18:10  * dennda tries to tackle the hardest task
2008-05-22T16:18:14  <dennda> finding a point where to start
2008-05-22T16:19:55  <johill> read the sql backend
2008-05-22T16:21:50  <dennda> ok
2008-05-22T16:24:48  <johill> ask me any questions :)
2008-05-22T16:25:06  <johill> the sql backend teaches you the current code and also contains notes on what could be done better
2008-05-22T16:25:25  <johill> (and why)
2008-05-22T16:25:48  <dennda> that sounds brilliant
2008-05-22T16:25:58  <dennda> I hope my rudimentary knowledge of SQL is not an obstacle
2008-05-22T16:26:11  <johill> nah, it's very rudimentary sql anyway ;)
2008-05-22T16:26:12  <dennda> But I already got two books on SQL ;)
2008-05-22T16:36:32  <dreimark> re
2008-05-22T16:42:46  <dennda> johill: what does "Eep." mean?
2008-05-22T16:42:46  <zenhase> i am wondering if the public ssh-key i gave you last year is still existant :o
2008-05-22T16:43:17  <ThomasWaldmann> no
2008-05-22T16:43:34  <dennda> it's probably compromised anyway
2008-05-22T16:43:34  <johill> dennda: "Eep." means that I made that sound out of frustration
2008-05-22T16:43:43  <dennda> johill: I see
2008-05-22T16:43:46  <zenhase> dennda: dunno, i never used debian-systems
2008-05-22T16:43:52  <zenhase> dennda: or debian-derived systems
2008-05-22T16:44:18  <dennda> what system are you using?
2008-05-22T16:44:29  <zenhase> right now freebsd
2008-05-22T16:44:37  <dennda> i see
2008-05-22T16:44:45  <zenhase> but i guess the key i gave out stems from a fedora
2008-05-22T16:44:56  <zenhase> because that was the linux i was using the last years
2008-05-22T17:00:04  <zenhase> uh, i found my ssh-key i used to use last year
2008-05-22T17:00:14  <zenhase> i think i totally forgot the passphrase on it ;)
2008-05-22T17:05:33  <dennda> johill: I am just digging throug the sql thing to get a first impression. Just checking what I don't recognize syntactically, and in line 221 there is a comma that somehow doesn't seem to fit there
2008-05-22T17:05:36  <zenhase> well, i will renew all my keys anyway, despite me not using debian
2008-05-22T17:05:58  <zenhase> they are organized in a stupid fashion
2008-05-22T17:06:10  <zenhase> and i lost (as mentioned) some passphrases ;)
2008-05-22T17:06:39  <zenhase> question is: will there be repos like last year anyway?
2008-05-22T17:06:57  <dennda> how else are we supposed to publish our code?
2008-05-22T17:07:08  <zenhase> dunno, perhaps our own repos ;)
2008-05-22T17:07:39  <zenhase> i could clone 1.7 and put it on my server to work on it there
2008-05-22T17:07:45  <ThomasWaldmann> i will create some repos
2008-05-22T17:08:17  <zenhase> i will send you a new ssh-pubkey this weekend then
2008-05-22T17:08:40  <zenhase> when i finished reinstalling my server
2008-05-22T17:52:38  <dennda> puh, this isn't too easy
2008-05-22T18:01:49  <johill> dennda: yeah, that comma is a bit weird
2008-05-22T18:01:59  <johill> dennda: I guess that makes it a 1-elemnt tuple
2008-05-22T18:02:02  <johill> which is fine
2008-05-22T18:02:26  <dennda> Oh I stopped worrying about that comma :)
2008-05-22T18:03:05  <johill> yeah sorry was digging into rsa crypto
2008-05-22T18:03:24  <dennda> It's just not that easy to get the whole thing at once. There's so much to learn
2008-05-22T18:03:39  <dennda> Would be great to have a machine that creates braindumps
2008-05-22T18:03:52  <johill> heh
2008-05-22T18:06:01  <dennda> johill: How 'intense' is our mentor-scholar-relationship going to be? That is, am I supposed to learn the whole thing on my own and ask you only if things are unclear or are you going to take me by the hand and illustrate the code? (Taking both extremes) :)
2008-05-22T18:06:58  <johill> doesn't matter much to me, though if you want the hand-holding extreme I would prefer using a phone
2008-05-22T18:07:46  <dennda> oh, ok. sure
2008-05-22T18:17:49  <dennda> johill: I think it would be a good idea to organize myself appropriately before starting the work. If I know exactly what I need to do, I can take the appropriate steps. And, tbh, given the huge amount of information it may be a good idea to talk about it and receive a bit of guidance and explanation from you in the first place. A kick-start so to say, if that is ok for you :)
2008-05-22T18:18:49  <johill> sure
2008-05-22T18:20:47  <dennda> excellent
2008-05-22T18:20:58  <dennda> I'm ready whenever it pleases you
2008-05-22T18:24:33  <johill> I'd like to go out and skate for a bit
2008-05-22T18:24:50  <johill> if you want, I can probably still handle a phone call, but I wouldn't be able to look at code ;)
2008-05-22T18:25:48  <dennda> Hah, we can still do that when you return, as long as you can still easily breathe then :)
2008-05-22T18:26:05  <johill> sure, I don't think I'll be out more than an hour
2008-05-22T18:26:22  <johill> just need to get some fresh air and move
2008-05-22T18:27:01  <dennda> yes, I know that feeling
2008-05-22T18:27:12  <dennda> don't break your legs
2008-05-22T18:28:29  <johill> :)
2008-05-22T18:42:01  <CIA-49> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 14:87d11a4031e3 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: thumbnails stored for each page in the cache dir
2008-05-22T18:42:02  <CIA-49> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 15:46267a5a1451 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/parser/text_x_arnica.py: text_x_arnica: involved arnica_slides to show thumbnails
2008-05-22T18:42:02  <CIA-49> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 16:22e4dacd1d37 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/action/arnica_slides.py: arnica_slides: viewing thumbnails and webnails from cache dir
2008-05-22T18:42:03  <CIA-49> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 17:cb6ad4cfdc5e 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/ (action/arnica_slides.py parser/text_x_arnica.py): PEP8 whitespace fix
2008-05-22T18:42:06  <CIA-49> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 18:72099349b4a8 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/action/arnica_slides.py: arnica_action: moved view before check of delete rights
2008-05-22T18:42:09  <CIA-49> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 19:2e91ea8506a0 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/action/arnica_slides.py: arnica_slides: Todo added
2008-05-22T18:43:29  <dreimark> bbl
2008-05-22T18:54:59  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3632:f00bf7ef6ee8 1.7/MoinMoin/converter/_tests/test_text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: skip broken converter test
2008-05-22T19:51:52  <johill> dennda: back & caught breath again
2008-05-22T19:52:06  <dennda> johill: glad to hear that
2008-05-22T19:52:26  <dennda> what'd be your preferred method of audiovisual communication?
2008-05-22T19:52:35  <dennda> I assume something SIP-like
2008-05-22T19:53:11  <johill> I actually like using regular phones ;)
2008-05-22T19:53:19  <dennda> oh
2008-05-22T19:53:33  <dennda> Well, be warned that our phone has a bit of a noise to it
2008-05-22T19:53:58  <johill> I don't think sip would work over this crawlingly slow wireless network
2008-05-22T19:54:04  <dennda> hehe
2008-05-22T19:54:39  <johill> want me to call, or do you happen to have a phone flatrate? ;)
2008-05-22T19:54:45  <dennda> I do
2008-05-22T19:54:55  <dennda> lemme fetch the phone
2008-05-22T19:56:31  <dennda> calling
2008-05-22T20:36:44  <ThomasWaldmann> CIA-49: wake up :)
2008-05-22T20:38:34  * TheSheep considers making the storage backend interface of his wiki compatible with moin's 
2008-05-22T20:40:21  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3633:25822f14e4ea 1.7/MoinMoin/search/queryparser.py: search: support mimetype: search for builtin (slow) engine, too
2008-05-22T20:45:52  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: maybe wait until it is finished :)
2008-05-22T20:46:18  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: the interface ism ore or less finished now, no?
2008-05-22T20:47:03  <ThomasWaldmann> we'll see this SOC :)
2008-05-22T20:49:11  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe you four ( pawel, dennda, johill and you ) should discuss about how to deal with repos and merging
2008-05-22T20:49:43  <ThomasWaldmann> we can have 2 repos, but I guess pawel should merge dennda's stuff rather often
2008-05-22T20:50:13  <ThomasWaldmann> or (as we'll have dennda's changeset in there anyway), they could also work on same repo
2008-05-22T20:58:36  <TheSheep> yeah, I can see a lot of benefots from sharing it
2008-05-22T21:06:31  <johill> yeah we should
2008-05-22T21:07:12  <ThomasWaldmann> and every student has to prove by unit tests then that HE didn't break it :))
2008-05-22T21:10:01  <dennda> wow, that phone call was longer than it felt
2008-05-22T21:10:04  <dennda> :)
2008-05-22T21:10:17  <johill> heh
2008-05-22T21:10:18  * dennda tries to memorize everything and put it on his wiki page to publish status and progress
2008-05-22T21:10:30  <johill> TheSheep: http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/files/storage.txt
2008-05-22T21:10:32  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: there is always "annotate"
2008-05-22T21:10:36  <johill> TheSheep: that's approximately the planned new interface
2008-05-22T21:10:45  <TheSheep> johill: thanks
2008-05-22T21:12:56  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: heh, sounds vicious
2008-05-22T21:13:42  <johill> ThomasWaldmann: you didn't merge the interesting bits yet ;)
2008-05-22T21:14:15  <ThomasWaldmann> johill: i have to care for 1.7 main, too :)
2008-05-22T21:15:44  <johill> I know :)
2008-05-22T21:17:09  <ThomasWaldmann> the merging tool is doing strange stuff on those changesets. and as heinrich moved some stuff to user.xxx, it takes more time merging these.
2008-05-22T21:18:25  <johill> yeah I know
2008-05-22T21:18:37  <johill> but I don't understand the changesets at all, so I'm lost
2008-05-22T21:19:00  <ThomasWaldmann> those changesets are just a cleanup of the old code and fix some bugs/limitations
2008-05-22T21:19:19  <ThomasWaldmann> the old code was about "last edit" (and it only worked for this special case)
2008-05-22T21:19:31  <ThomasWaldmann> the new code can give any edit-log entry
2008-05-22T21:19:45  <ThomasWaldmann> (and fixes a xmlrpc bug by that)
2008-05-22T21:20:06  <johill> yeah you said that and it didn't really help much
2008-05-22T21:20:17  <ThomasWaldmann> anything else is due to work done in the storage branch
2008-05-22T21:20:54  <dennda> I hate rapidshare
2008-05-22T21:21:13  <TheSheep> .oO( gmail storage backend... )
2008-05-22T21:21:20  <TheSheep> :D
2008-05-22T21:21:36  <dennda> TheSheep: It's up to you to implement it :)
2008-05-22T21:22:06  <ThomasWaldmann> next year or so
2008-05-22T21:22:09  <johill> TheSheep: more interesting might be app-engine storage
2008-05-22T21:22:10  <TheSheep> I'd rather go watch some grass growing
2008-05-22T21:22:38  <ThomasWaldmann> sheepish :)
2008-05-22T21:23:00  <dennda> indeed :)
2008-05-22T21:23:02  * ThomasWaldmann debugs xapian
2008-05-22T21:27:02  <dennda> My roomates are downloading $something from rapidshare that is > 700mb and reset the router every 2 mins ...
2008-05-22T21:27:16  <johill> lol
2008-05-22T21:27:26  <johill> why would you have to reset the router?
2008-05-22T21:27:32  <dennda> well
2008-05-22T21:27:59  <dennda> rapidshare let's you download only one file at a time, and only one file within $amount_of_time if you don't pay for their service
2008-05-22T21:28:10  <dennda> they distinguish the users by IP
2008-05-22T21:28:11  <johill> ah
2008-05-22T21:28:11  <dennda> so...
2008-05-22T21:28:35  <dennda> (besides, a 1 month rapidshare account is 4,50EUR or something)
2008-05-22T21:28:56  <dennda> I'd pay it, but I doubt their actions are legal, so I don't want to provide my name for it ;)
2008-05-22T21:29:03  <johill> heh
2008-05-22T21:29:12  <dennda> oh
2008-05-22T21:30:27  <dennda> I just realized that I signed the contract for the flatrate with my very name
2008-05-22T21:30:36  <dennda> ...aaaand here we go again. another reconnect
2008-05-22T21:54:16  <dennda> Status des Versands der Änderungsnachrichten:
2008-05-22T21:54:16  <dennda> [en] Kurt N. Breuhaus: E-Mail wurde erfolgreich versandt
2008-05-22T21:54:17  <dennda> ?
2008-05-22T21:54:33  <dennda> I just edited my personal page
2008-05-22T21:54:50  <ThomasWaldmann> .*
2008-05-22T21:55:15  <TheSheep> johill: what does [-] mean?
2008-05-22T21:55:36  <johill> where?
2008-05-22T21:55:55  <TheSheep> johill: in that storage.txt
2008-05-22T21:55:57  <ThomasWaldmann> can someone have a look at that notification malfunction?
2008-05-22T21:56:18  <johill> TheSheep: read on
2008-05-22T21:57:20  <TheSheep> ok
2008-05-22T21:59:06  <johill> it's below the list
2008-05-22T22:01:28  <TheSheep> good thing we don't use bzr, it uses read locks
2008-05-22T22:01:37  <TheSheep> hg doesn't
2008-05-22T22:07:29  <dennda> TheSheep: You and your scholar may want to take a look at my wikipage, as I plan to publish my status and progress there (and what I plan to do)
2008-05-22T22:08:13  <dennda> http://moinmo.in/ChristopherDenter that is
2008-05-22T22:09:03  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: what's the plan now? Will Pawel and I be working on the same repo or will we have seperate ones?
2008-05-22T22:10:10  <TheSheep> dennda: I need to contact him, he's not online all the time
2008-05-22T22:10:25  <zenhase> dennda: already built a auto-status-script for that? :D
2008-05-22T22:11:00  <dennda> zenhase: hm?
2008-05-22T22:11:11  <dennda> TheSheep: ok
2008-05-22T22:12:30  <zenhase> dennda: something that updates the wikipage with the current cmdline from your shell every few minutes ;)
2008-05-22T22:12:53  <zenhase> total surveillance :P
2008-05-22T22:14:29  <dennda> umm
2008-05-22T22:14:31  <dennda> no
2008-05-22T22:15:30  <zenhase> i guess i wouldn't do something like that either :P
2008-05-22T22:16:18  <TheSheep> dennda: what would you prefer?
2008-05-22T22:17:05  <dennda> TheSheep: are you talking about repos?
2008-05-22T22:18:53  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: that's primarily your and pawel's decision
2008-05-22T22:19:14  <dennda> to be honest, I'd rather keep it seperate
2008-05-22T22:19:15  <ThomasWaldmann> imho it might be good for testing and better cooperation, but still your decision
2008-05-22T22:20:05  <TheSheep> dennda: yes
2008-05-22T22:22:29  * ThomasWaldmann eats a mango :)
2008-05-22T22:32:54  * ThomasWaldmann updates i18n
2008-05-22T22:35:11  <dennda> if that is ok
2008-05-22T22:35:58  <dennda> TheSheep: If pawel feels it would greatly benefit him to share a repo with me, I'm fine
2008-05-22T22:44:17  <CIA-49> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3634:de4a7a1c89dd 1.7/MoinMoin/i18n/ (9 files): updated i18n
2008-05-22T22:45:51  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: please ping me when you got the merge done :)
2008-05-22T22:46:40  <ThomasWaldmann> don't hold your breath :)
2008-05-22T22:47:09  * TheSheep suffocates
2008-05-22T22:49:20  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: no worries
2008-05-22T23:02:01  <ThomasWaldmann> byeongweon: ssh key installed
2008-05-22T23:11:55  <ThomasWaldmann> COMPROMISED: 2048 61:92:1d:6b:86:0d:41:ae:24:e5:1a:3e:57:ba:31:2f gizmo@mogwai
2008-05-22T23:12:28  <xorAxAx> didnt you remove all keys, thomas?
2008-05-22T23:12:39  <TheSheep> we had them saved ;)
2008-05-22T23:13:59  <ThomasWaldmann> that was freshly submitted via mail :)
2008-05-22T23:14:10  <ThomasWaldmann> and yes I did
2008-05-22T23:14:47  <dennda> Mine shouldn't be compromised (but I didn't do an explicit check)
2008-05-22T23:19:10  <dennda> did I forget anything on my list, johill?
2008-05-22T23:19:10  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: ssh key installed
2008-05-22T23:19:51  <dennda> and with "ssh key installed" you mean 'cat denndaskey.pub >> authorized_keys'? :)
2008-05-22T23:19:54  <johill> dennda: guess I need to check
2008-05-22T23:20:06  <johill> dennda: you get quicker attention if you prefix your messages with 'johill: '
2008-05-22T23:20:06  <johill> :)
2008-05-22T23:20:35  <dennda> johill: why is that? Does your client not react on a highlight at the end of the line?
2008-05-22T23:20:48  <johill> apparently not
2008-05-22T23:21:16  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: almost
2008-05-22T23:22:04  <johill> looks fine
2008-05-22T23:22:08  <dennda> ok
2008-05-22T23:27:14  <dennda> hm strange. my irssi works with highlights everywhere
2008-05-22T23:27:29  <johill> odd
2008-05-22T23:27:35  <johill> I dunno, never really configured it
2008-05-22T23:28:19  <dennda> w00t
2008-05-22T23:28:29  <dennda> have a screenshot?
2008-05-22T23:28:38  <johill> hm?
2008-05-22T23:28:49  <johill> from me?
2008-05-22T23:28:51  <dennda> of your irssi
2008-05-22T23:29:08  <johill> not anywhere, but I can make one, why?
2008-05-22T23:29:36  <dennda> I want to see if you miss anything
2008-05-22T23:29:50  <dennda> there are some great plugins that make it much more useful
2008-05-22T23:30:01  <johill> http://johannes.sipsolutions.net/files/irssi.png
2008-05-22T23:30:12  <johill> I have a few plugins loaded
2008-05-22T23:30:14  <johill> not many
2008-05-22T23:31:09  <johill> could never be bothered to read the docs and all that ;)
2008-05-22T23:31:25  <dennda> it's just copy & paste basically
2008-05-22T23:31:27  <dennda> just a sec
2008-05-22T23:33:27  <dennda> http://the-space-station.com/~dennda/gallery/screenshots/my_sweet_irssi.png
2008-05-22T23:33:32  <dennda> that's mine
2008-05-22T23:34:03  <johill> oww
2008-05-22T23:34:29  <johill> I don't need the bash stuff, I actually use screen ;)
2008-05-22T23:34:42  <johill> or wait, that is screen
2008-05-22T23:34:44  <johill> ?
2008-05-22T23:35:04  <johill> but I prefer smaller windows anyway
2008-05-22T23:35:23  <dennda> yes, that is screen
2008-05-22T23:35:44  <dennda> screen is just a window manager for the console, so why should it not have a taskbar? :)
2008-05-22T23:35:54  <johill> why should it? :)
2008-05-22T23:36:08  <dennda> it's neat
2008-05-22T23:36:51  <johill> my criterion tends to be "is it useful?" ;)
2008-05-22T23:39:09  <dennda> oh it is
2008-05-22T23:39:41  <dennda> e.g. I got a clock there, useful when not in X11 & GNOME
2008-05-22T23:39:50  <dennda> but that's not part of my irssi config anyway
2008-05-22T23:39:56  <johill> heh