2008-09-20T00:00:08  * dreimark saves in gimp som modernized images to get the background transparent for msie6
2008-09-20T00:22:55  <CIA-25> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4111:c9beec6245db 1.8/wiki/htdocs/modernized/img/ (37 files): saved some modernized images with gimp to get always the same white background for msie6.
2008-09-20T00:50:16  <dreimark> gn
2008-09-20T09:08:55  <CIA-25> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 287:a7bdc6ec1819 1.7-extensions/htdocs/arnica/img/ (13 files): saved all arnica images with gimp to get always the same white background for msie6.
2008-09-20T09:09:03  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-09-20T09:09:46  * dreimark hopes that IE7 behaves similiar
2008-09-20T09:10:38  <ThomasWaldmann> don't we have transparent background usually?
2008-09-20T09:13:17  <dreimark> it is transparent on linux but not on msie6. there it was a light read background if the it was a red sign. the trahbin had a black background. some of the smileys a grey one.
2008-09-20T09:13:54  <dreimark> s/read/red/
2008-09-20T09:14:55  <dreimark> htg bbl ~3h
2008-09-20T09:51:02  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4112:f0f67b3107ab 1.8/wiki/htdocs/ (8 files in 4 dirs): add link icon for ssh:, whitespace fixes
2008-09-20T10:01:31  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4113:23f7789f1d9f 1.8/docs/HACKS: remove docs about cfg.hacks (was never really used)
2008-09-20T10:38:52  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4114:7799099c01cf 1.8/MoinMoin/i18n/tools/ (mail_i18n-maintainers.txt mail_i18n-maintainers2.txt): updated translator notification mail texts
2008-09-20T12:43:45  <dreimark> re
2008-09-20T12:51:47  <ThomasWaldmann> wb dreimark
2008-09-20T12:59:59  <dreimark> hi ThomasWaldmann
2008-09-20T13:00:07  <dreimark> byeongweon_pc: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/1.8_GUIEditorChangesColor
2008-09-20T13:00:28  <dreimark> Do you have an idea what happens there?
2008-09-20T13:04:23  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: this copy and paste feature into the gui editor is extremly nice
2008-09-20T13:14:47  <CIA-25> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 4407:21fa0d11e956 1.8-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/converter2/link.py: Link converter - Supply element for handlers
2008-09-20T13:14:49  <CIA-25> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 4408:a0dc49a8bb96 1.8-dom-bblank/ (MoinMoin/converter2/link.py docs/TODO.dom): Link converter - Mark nonexistant links
2008-09-20T13:14:50  <CIA-25> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 4409:da6f8b7e9328 1.8-dom-bblank/ (MoinMoin/converter2/link.py docs/TODO.dom): Link converter - Mark interwiki links
2008-09-20T13:48:46  <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: hey, shiny new code :)
2008-09-20T13:49:19  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: what do you mean, something new?
2008-09-20T13:49:50  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: found an expaterror bug
2008-09-20T13:50:29  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I think theis feature is not new I have not recognized it, but it helps testing a lot
2008-09-20T13:50:30  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: that usually happens if browser posts something that is not xml
2008-09-20T13:50:54  <dreimark> it happens with a page from MM and firefox 3.0.1
2008-09-20T13:51:32  <dreimark> currently four new bug reports
2008-09-20T13:51:41  <dreimark> and one patch
2008-09-20T13:53:25  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, a markup diff would've been more appropriate in that table bg color bugreport
2008-09-20T13:54:40  <ThomasWaldmann> and for the expaterror.log, you have to look what is at line 438 column 32 (the wiki is not good for that)
2008-09-20T13:54:56  <ThomasWaldmann> (use vim or another editor)
2008-09-20T13:56:08  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: about the not supported element: feel free to apply this patch
2008-09-20T13:56:43  <dreimark> line 432c is
2008-09-20T13:56:45  <ThomasWaldmann> (but also please note that pasting arbitrary html into gui editor is likely to cause more/other problems and is not supported)
2008-09-20T13:56:46  <dreimark> File &quot;/home/user/workspace/moin-1.8/MoinMoin/converter/text_html_text_moin_wiki.py&quot;, line 808, in process_inline raise ConvertError(&quot;process_inline: Don't support %s element&quot; % name)
2008-09-20T13:57:04  <ThomasWaldmann> line 438 column 32?
2008-09-20T13:58:42  <dreimark> ok, wrong line:
2008-09-20T13:58:50  <dreimark>   return obj.childNodes.length && obj.firstChild.childNodes.length && obj.firstChild.firstChild.className == 'LineNumber';
2008-09-20T13:59:01  <dreimark> the sign is the firs & of the two &&
2008-09-20T13:59:40  * dreimark looks for other unsupported elements
2008-09-20T14:02:02  <ThomasWaldmann> looks like it tries to interprete javascript as xml/xhtml
2008-09-20T14:02:55  <dreimark> proably it is better to convert it to save html beforehand
2008-09-20T14:03:10  <dreimark> probably
2008-09-20T14:16:04  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: I'll look at the h2 error
2008-09-20T14:18:18  <dreimark> ok
2008-09-20T14:19:41  <ThomasWaldmann> ugh, that error must be rather old
2008-09-20T14:28:57  <dreimark> argh, "local variable 'indent' referenced before assignment"
2008-09-20T14:30:04  <dreimark> and there is already a comment  # XXX no dt -> indent is undefined!!!
2008-09-20T14:32:36  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4115:f35e8fc79e8b 1.8/MoinMoin/ (2 files in 2 dirs): GUI editor: fix heading level roundtripping
2008-09-20T14:43:17  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: rather than tracebacking, we could handle th in the same way as td. shall I change it or do you want to do it?
2008-09-20T14:50:15  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4116:641814c82116 1.8/MoinMoin/converter/text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: GUI editor converter: handle th in the same way as td (instead of giving traceback due to unhandled element)
2008-09-20T14:50:27  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ^^
2008-09-20T14:50:42  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: please do - ah you did already :)
2008-09-20T14:51:06  <rootard> ThomasWaldmann: should I consider it a bug if pasting into the GUi editor work, but on submission I lose my content entirely?
2008-09-20T14:51:15  <rootard> *worked
2008-09-20T14:51:25  <dreimark> rootard: yes please add a bug report
2008-09-20T14:51:47  <dreimark> rootard: css elements can't be copied
2008-09-20T14:51:51  <ThomasWaldmann> rootard: pasting arbitrary crap into the gui editor will for sure cause problems, that is known
2008-09-20T14:52:29  <ThomasWaldmann> the converter that transforms xhtml back to wiki markup should work for everything moin produces, but not necessarily for everything possible in html.
2008-09-20T14:52:37  <rootard> I was copying from media wiki into MoinMoin. it complained that "th" was not supported... otherwise the page was pretty basic
2008-09-20T14:52:50  <ThomasWaldmann> that's fixed since a minute
2008-09-20T14:53:26  <ThomasWaldmann> iirc moin does not produce th, so it falls into that category.
2008-09-20T14:53:57  <ThomasWaldmann> otoh, it was easy to fix as th is mostly the same as td and just treating it as td is far better than tracebacking.
2008-09-20T14:53:59  <rootard> yeah, but turning it into a td seems like a simple fix
2008-09-20T14:54:03  <rootard> lol
2008-09-20T14:54:40  <dreimark> if you know were the bug is it looks mostly simple afterwards.
2008-09-20T14:55:05  <rootard> I can post a backtrace?
2008-09-20T14:55:27  <ThomasWaldmann> pastebin or bug report on the wiki
2008-09-20T14:57:36  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you look at 635 of text_html_text_moin_wiki.py the XXX issue
2008-09-20T14:59:26  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: the question is whether a dl without dt is valid
2008-09-20T14:59:50  <ThomasWaldmann> (with dd but without dt)
2008-09-20T15:00:45  <rootard> even better: http://pirlwww.lpl.arizona.edu/~tims/moin/th_error.html
2008-09-20T15:08:59  <ThomasWaldmann> rootard: that should be fixed with 1.8 repo code
2008-09-20T15:10:04  <rootard> ok, once it is released I'll upgrade! :)
2008-09-20T15:10:07  <rootard> thanks
2008-09-20T15:12:04  <dreimark> rootard: your version is  1.7.1
2008-09-20T15:12:13  <rootard> yes
2008-09-20T15:22:14  <ThomasWaldmann> rootard: you are running cgi?
2008-09-20T15:22:55  <ThomasWaldmann> oh, mod_python :X
2008-09-20T15:23:03  <rootard> mod_python
2008-09-20T15:23:25  <ThomasWaldmann> rootard: with 1.7.1, I guess the moin process will stop working after about 1000 requests
2008-09-20T15:23:30  <rootard> I found doc's saying "please don't" but no reason not too.
2008-09-20T15:24:45  <rootard> oh, hmm
2008-09-20T15:25:11  <rootard> cgi is so much slower though :-/
2008-09-20T15:25:25  <ThomasWaldmann> you can just use 1.7.2 to fix that
2008-09-20T15:25:47  <rootard> ahh, an easy fix. I like it. :)
2008-09-20T15:25:48  <ThomasWaldmann> it is only fixing some stuff, including that file leak
2008-09-20T15:26:25  <ThomasWaldmann> we did not find it before release unfortunately (because I configured my mod_wsgi to only do 500 requests per process long ago)
2008-09-20T15:27:12  <ThomasWaldmann> and upgrading is not rocket science :D
2008-09-20T15:34:24  <rootard> yeah, we don't have mod_wsgi packaged on nexenta so I just opted for mod_python
2008-09-20T15:38:35  <CIA-25> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4117:72ac60ad99c9 1.8/MoinMoin/converter/text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: text_html_text_moin_wiki.process_inline: added some more unsupported elements, bug fix for MoinMoinBugs/1.8_GUIEditorDoesNotSupportScriptElement
2008-09-20T15:42:49  <ThomasWaldmann> rootard: the nexenta homepage tells "provides debian environment". does that mean that a debian mod_wsgi package would work?
2008-09-20T15:43:23  <CIA-25> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 288:5f91eff1ae2b 1.7-extensions/data/plugin/ (action/arnica_slides.py parser/text_x_arnica.py): PEP8 white space fix
2008-09-20T15:44:58  <rootard> well, it would have to be recompiled I imagine...
2008-09-20T15:45:08  <rootard> It's OpenSoalris not Linux
2008-09-20T15:45:11  <rootard> *OpenSolaris
2008-09-20T15:45:47  <rootard> Nexenta doesn't have an autobuilder (yet) so there are still a lot of packages to be wanted
2008-09-20T15:51:24  <ThomasWaldmann> mod_wsgi is just one C file and there is a debian package on backports.org. sound easy for some nexenta dev to adopt it. :)
2008-09-20T15:52:41  <rootard> :) Yes, that and the other 1k packages I haven't ported yet.
2008-09-20T15:53:21  <rootard> I am working on an autobuilder currently so that package would very likely make it
2008-09-20T15:54:49  <rootard> I have two hats in this situation: the I work for my day job and they want a wiki, and I develop for Nexenta in my spare time
2008-09-20T15:58:31  <ThomasWaldmann> you seem to be the perfect guy for that then. :))
2008-09-20T15:59:13  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, in case you don't know: WSGI is a standard way to run python web apps and many python web devs like it and work in that direction.
2008-09-20T16:00:21  <ThomasWaldmann> mod_wsgi runs great (I use it myself on some servers, no issues yet), while mod_python has been a pain since years.
2008-09-20T16:01:18  <rootard> I'll keep it in mind. I imagine I will be upgrading to wsgi as it becomes available.
2008-09-20T16:02:02  <ThomasWaldmann> moin 1.9 will just be a wsgi app
2008-09-20T16:02:16  <rootard> Then I know how long I have to do it :)
2008-09-20T16:02:49  <ThomasWaldmann> (we will ship some middleware that translates fastcgi/ajp/scgi/cgi to wsgi, to not leave users in the cold, but wsgi will be the most direct way to run it)
2008-09-20T16:03:53  <ThomasWaldmann> (we decided to just drop mod_python though, for the reasons stated above)
2008-09-20T16:03:57  <rootard> I'm sure by the time we need it, it will be in the repository and usable.
2008-09-20T16:04:05  <rootard> Yeah, that makes sense.
2008-09-20T16:05:35  <rootard> I'm a fan of not duplicating effort which is my rationale for not directly porting mod_wsgi
2008-09-20T16:06:22  <rootard> if I use the time instead to construct a builder then countless other packages will be ported and then I can spend my time on something non-trivial
2008-09-20T16:06:22  <ThomasWaldmann> if you can automate it, that for sure is less effort
2008-09-20T16:08:48  <rootard> k, thanks for the tips. I'm off for now.
2008-09-20T16:10:37  <ThomasWaldmann> cu :)
2008-09-20T19:52:24  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4118:60f3c8863f37 1.8/MoinMoin/support/parsedatetime/ (parsedatetime.py parsedatetime_consts.py pdt.py pdtc.py): parsedatetime: converted module to use lf-only line endings, removed unused/duplicated pdt/pdtc modules
2008-09-20T19:53:00  <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/temp/output.html < clonedigger output (20 minutes runtime, 1.3GB RAM used)
2008-09-20T20:34:17  <waldi> many errors
2008-09-20T20:34:50  <waldi> 10001 of 48876 lines are duplicates (20.46%)
2008-09-20T20:34:53  <waldi> ui
2008-09-20T20:50:25  <dennda> which branch?
2008-09-20T20:56:29  <ThomasWaldmann> 1.8 (some of the dupes are intended: tests, migration scripts)
2008-09-20T20:56:48  <ThomasWaldmann> and i removed already some stuff, see above
2008-09-20T21:21:34  <dreimark> re
2008-09-20T21:23:19  * ThomasWaldmann reduces duplication in the gui converter
2008-09-20T21:23:54  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you remove all the migration scripts
2008-09-20T21:27:05  <dreimark> and all _tests
2008-09-20T21:42:59  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, next time i run it
2008-09-20T21:49:32  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4119:5d102b84ce1e 1.8/MoinMoin/converter/text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: gui converter: reduce code duplication
2008-09-20T21:49:33  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4120:9c1842ceee62 1.8/MoinMoin/ (6 files in 3 dirs): merged main
2008-09-20T21:57:48  <CIA-25> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4121:4780e4b6e99d 1.8/MoinMoin/converter/text_html_text_moin_wiki.py: gui converter: create shorter output for colors
2008-09-20T22:09:40  * ThomasWaldmann reruns clonedigger
2008-09-20T22:10:07  <ThomasWaldmann> byeongweon_pc: HelpOnTables is rather broken after saved with gui editor
2008-09-20T22:28:16  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://static.moinmo.in/temp/output2.html
2008-09-20T23:56:21  <dreimark> 3696 of 34686 sounds better
2008-09-20T23:58:14  <dreimark> old/migration

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