MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2008-11-28

2008-11-28T00:40:35  <dreimark> gn
2008-11-28T00:57:56  <ThomasWaldmann> only stuff with uncommon dependencies yet
2008-11-28T00:57:59  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark
2008-11-28T08:51:07  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2008-11-28T10:24:42  <dreimark> moin
2008-11-28T10:32:38  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, afaics svg>png rendering would get us into dependency hell
2008-11-28T10:33:42  <ThomasWaldmann> (at least when using cairo and rsvg + python bindings on ubuntu)
2008-11-28T10:37:24  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
2008-11-28T10:37:26  <dreimark> sigh
2008-11-28T10:37:49  <dreimark> interwiki links seem to have a problem with a # in 1.7.x
2008-11-28T11:02:32  <ThomasWaldmann> ?
2008-11-28T11:05:10  <dreimark> [[MoinMaster:HelpOnPageCreation#Byvisitingthepage|Example]]
2008-11-28T11:05:23  <dreimark> also in 1.8
2008-11-28T11:05:37  <dreimark> # -> %23
2008-11-28T11:06:24  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, because it is interpreted as part of the pagename
2008-11-28T11:07:21  <ThomasWaldmann> there are 2 choices: either keep it that way or, if we interpret everything behind # as anchor, we won't be able to link to pages with # in page name
2008-11-28T11:10:22  <dreimark> or third solution we can extend the anchor macro
2008-11-28T11:10:44  <dreimark> adding a target keyword
2008-11-28T11:11:05  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, we are beyond 50GB Traffic on moinmo.in
2008-11-28T11:11:17  <dreimark> wow
2008-11-28T11:13:45  <ThomasWaldmann> (per month)
2008-11-28T11:17:58  <dreimark> I assumed that. what makes the biggest part?
2008-11-28T11:19:38  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: svg>png rendering? In what context?
2008-11-28T11:20:08  <dreimark> e.g. if we replace twikidraw by something which writes svg
2008-11-28T11:20:23  <dreimark> we need a png for compatibility reasons with other browsers
2008-11-28T11:20:40  <dennda> Which browsers don't support svg?
2008-11-28T11:20:45  <dreimark> ff
2008-11-28T11:20:49  <dennda> Hu?
2008-11-28T11:20:53  <dennda> FF supports svg
2008-11-28T11:20:55  <dreimark> worong readed
2008-11-28T11:21:32  <dreimark> some windows browsers
2008-11-28T11:21:43  <dennda> For the svg part you'd need an XML library. Or is there any dedicated svg library?
2008-11-28T11:22:19  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: IE, what else :P
2008-11-28T11:22:29  <dennda> jah stupid question, rather rhetorical X-)
2008-11-28T11:23:17  <ThomasWaldmann> (lib)rvsg can do the svg parsing, cairo can do the png rendering
2008-11-28T11:23:34  <ThomasWaldmann> but: depends on X11 and gnome-desktop stuff -> that sucks
2008-11-28T11:23:35  <dennda> I know, memaker uses that too
2008-11-28T11:23:39  <dennda> urgh
2008-11-28T11:23:43  <dennda> that's pretty ugly indeed
2008-11-28T11:23:45  <dennda> Why is that
2008-11-28T11:24:09  <ThomasWaldmann> ask the ubuntu/debian package maintainer :)
2008-11-28T11:24:41  <ThomasWaldmann> they seem to put librvsg-python into python-gnome-desktop package
2008-11-28T11:25:29  <dennda> checking
2008-11-28T11:25:51  <dennda> Which version are you referring to, ThomasWaldmann?
2008-11-28T11:26:05  <ThomasWaldmann> 8.04
2008-11-28T11:26:44  <dennda> Talking about python-cairo, librsvg2-2 and libcairo2, yes?
2008-11-28T11:27:36  <dennda> argh gotta go, uni, bbl
2008-11-28T11:43:16  <ThomasWaldmann> dennda: yes, and also the python binding for librsvg
2008-11-28T15:54:28  <dreimark> bbl
2008-11-28T17:21:38  <ThomasWaldmann> finally a good idea for a useful new action
2008-11-28T17:21:53  <ThomasWaldmann> "kill this server" (for su only)
2008-11-28T17:22:44  <ThomasWaldmann> (Ctrl-C doesn't work good under win32)