MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-01-08

2009-01-08T09:36:09  <dreimark> moin
2009-01-08T09:41:40  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-01-08T09:43:02  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/PermissionsAfterRepoInstall < did you use hg as root? that could be caused by a restrictive umask setting as usually present for the root user.
2009-01-08T09:43:51  <ThomasWaldmann> (and that is not a moin bug)
2009-01-08T10:50:11  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: why only these files and not all others?
2009-01-08T10:55:28  <ThomasWaldmann> likely it handles permissions on .py by explicitely setting them
2009-01-08T10:56:06  <ThomasWaldmann> (btw, we have seen that effect before, iirc with permission on .po)
2009-01-08T10:56:07  <dreimark> ok
2009-01-08T10:56:27  <ThomasWaldmann> so the bug is likely a duplicate
2009-01-08T12:30:33  <ronny> morning
2009-01-08T12:30:35  <ronny> sup?
2009-01-08T12:33:29  <TheSheep> /o/
2009-01-08T12:36:15  <dreimark> \.o./
2009-01-08T12:37:57  <TheSheep> what muscles!
2009-01-08T12:46:11  <dreimark> TheSheep: Do we have somewhere tooltips? can this be done by css?
2009-01-08T12:49:04  <TheSheep> dreimark: yes, it can, ut it looks horrible with css disabled
2009-01-08T12:49:13  <TheSheep> but
2009-01-08T12:49:34  <TheSheep> you can also do tooltips with the 'title' attribute of any element
2009-01-08T12:51:47  <dreimark> ok that is for text only.
2009-01-08T12:52:20  <ronny> hmm
2009-01-08T12:52:22  <dreimark> do we have a class which removes the url from a link so that it becomes text only
2009-01-08T12:52:40  <TheSheep> class?
2009-01-08T12:52:44  <TheSheep> as in css class?
2009-01-08T12:52:49  <dreimark> [[test||class=red]] makes a nice background but it is a link
2009-01-08T12:52:49  <TheSheep> or did you mean a function?
2009-01-08T12:53:14  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: any objections to port the unittests over to work not only with py.test, but also with nose/trial after 1.9 got out?
2009-01-08T12:53:17  <TheSheep> links will always be links
2009-01-08T12:53:42  <dreimark> it cannot be redefined
2009-01-08T12:54:14  <TheSheep> you can color them like text, you can change the cursor to normal when you hover over them, you can even override clicking on them with js
2009-01-08T12:54:21  <TheSheep> but they will always be seen as links
2009-01-08T12:54:25  <TheSheep> by the browser
2009-01-08T12:54:55  <ronny> bbl, gotta catch my bus
2009-01-08T13:00:04  <dreimark> this means the parser has to get it first. I updated http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/SaneMarkupForColoredText
2009-01-08T13:00:32  <dreimark> e.g. [[!FeatureRequests||class=yellow]] we use ! already for nolinks
2009-01-08T13:05:55  <ThomasWaldmann> ronny: i rather would prefer first having tests working / improved tests before making them more complicated
2009-01-08T13:06:54  <ThomasWaldmann> also, we have lots of stuff todo (storage and dom refactoring), so other bigger global changes should be delayed until afterwards
2009-01-08T13:07:28  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: that's not nice
2009-01-08T13:08:39  <ThomasWaldmann> a link (markup) is a link (markup) and shouldn't be misused as something else
2009-01-08T13:09:34  <TheSheep> maybe <tooltip foo>
2009-01-08T13:09:39  <TheSheep> <<tooltip foo>>
2009-01-08T13:09:41  <ThomasWaldmann> also, due to the same reasons as in my answer to ronny, introducing new markup / markup changes is a bad idea now
2009-01-08T13:10:15  <ThomasWaldmann> because we currently have the parsers twice: once in main, once in dom repo
2009-01-08T13:16:44  <ThomasWaldmann> thus, to make any progress and avoiding double work, we should:
2009-01-08T13:17:11  <ThomasWaldmann> get the tests working and in good shape
2009-01-08T13:17:31  <ThomasWaldmann> fix 1.9 bugs and get 1.9 in beta/rc
2009-01-08T13:17:44  <ThomasWaldmann> and then work on storage merge
2009-01-08T13:17:59  <ThomasWaldmann> (aka 2.0)
2009-01-08T13:56:54  <ronny> ThomasWaldmann: ok, i think i can wait for 2.0
2009-01-08T13:58:05  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: or <<fooltip foo>> :D
2009-01-08T13:59:10  <ronny> i want to port the tests of werkzeug/jinja first, they seem to be more simple
2009-01-08T13:59:52  <ThomasWaldmann> working on py3 compatibility there? :)
2009-01-08T14:05:56  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, in case we get accepted for soc2009, we should have the main branch in a good and recent shape
2009-01-08T14:06:33  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. at least the storage stuff merged and working
2009-01-08T14:06:50  <ThomasWaldmann> so we can use that as base for student work in the summer
2009-01-08T14:07:23  <ThomasWaldmann> ideally, we would also have the dom stuff merged, but I think we'll run out of time for that
2009-01-08T14:44:34  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: TheSheep: xorAxAx: btw, I mailed google (again) to check our org/mentor payment (again)
2009-01-08T14:44:47  <ThomasWaldmann> (just in case you're wondering)
2009-01-08T14:45:29  <xorAxAx> good to know, although  i havent particularly wondered yet
2009-01-08T14:46:09  <ThomasWaldmann> well, the travel expenses payment arrived quite a while ago
2009-01-08T14:58:43  * dreimark can wait too (I assume we don't need 2 years ;) )
2009-01-08T14:59:42  <dreimark> newaccaount exclusion seems to be not checked on the login page, see mailinglist
2009-01-08T15:02:45  <ronny> hmm
2009-01-08T15:02:59  <ronny> i should probably work on the suid issue
2009-01-08T15:03:06  <ronny> bit i recently got addicted to prolog
2009-01-08T15:04:03  * ThomasWaldmann used prolog ~20y ago :)
2009-01-08T15:04:24  <ronny> http://ronny.uberhost.de/2009/1/7/how-to-mimic-sql-in-prolog
2009-01-08T22:33:07  <dreimark> moin