MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-04-14

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2009-04-14T00:13:04  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4683:2f5fa1f9aa32 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: i18n.strings updated from SystemPagesInEnglishGroup
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2009-04-14T00:51:50  <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4684:3c8f4d34a6cd 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: i18n.strings: add TODO
2009-04-14T00:52:10  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ^^
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2009-04-14T11:46:40  <dreimark> moin
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2009-04-14T11:47:29  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: that means all this strings become added to the po file ?
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2009-04-14T12:10:19  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: we move some pages first
2009-04-14T12:10:58  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. the faq-like stuff
2009-04-14T12:12:43  <ThomasWaldmann> we need to think about the course pages also
2009-04-14T12:22:52  <dreimark> they should go to MM ? similiar to the HowTo section ?
2009-04-14T12:27:58  <dreimark> may be we can kill that master-date line also and get it from the editlog.
2009-04-14T12:28:09  <ThomasWaldmann> either that or end up in an optional page package somehow
2009-04-14T12:28:33  <ThomasWaldmann> that's not possible
2009-04-14T12:28:38  <dreimark> why
2009-04-14T12:28:53  <ThomasWaldmann> lack of data :)
2009-04-14T12:30:05  <dreimark> hmm, the user should be asked if he wants to update  that meta line then and should not be  forced to do it manually
2009-04-14T12:30:49  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe begin with the easy stuff first, see the TODO in strings.py
2009-04-14T12:32:04  <dreimark> yeah for sure.
2009-04-14T12:32:54  <dreimark> i think it is not necessary to have a more recent than beta2 underlay for english
2009-04-14T12:35:49  * dreimark adds a unit test for that
2009-04-14T12:35:57  <dreimark> bbl
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2009-04-14T19:13:41  <devilsadvocate> moin
2009-04-14T20:36:18  <dreimark> my opera long content problem vanishes if I clean the cache of my testwiki.
2009-04-14T20:37:05  <dreimark> can one try to reproduce this
2009-04-14T20:37:59  <dreimark> (and if that is reproducable then I want to know why that makes a difference)
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2009-04-14T21:04:33  <PawelPacana> re
2009-04-14T21:08:38  <ThomasWaldmann> hi pawel
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2009-04-14T22:00:45  <dreimark> argh, some people don't have changed the language of their wikipage content
2009-04-14T22:06:29  <ThomasWaldmann> what do you need it for?
2009-04-14T22:09:51  <dreimark> I have added a test which checks en pages of underlay are listed in all_pages
2009-04-14T22:11:08  <ThomasWaldmann> we rather need that as action, not as a test
2009-04-14T22:11:31  <dreimark> I think a unit test is also fine for that
2009-04-14T22:12:32  <ThomasWaldmann> it will delay failure until the underlay.tar is updated
2009-04-14T22:12:37  <dreimark> btw. all wsgi tests seem to fail
2009-04-14T22:13:51  <dreimark> assert ['InterWikiMap', 'BadContent', 'WikiLicense', 'HelpOnSpam '] == []  we don't have this pages yet
2009-04-14T22:16:26  <ThomasWaldmann> we do
2009-04-14T22:17:39  <ThomasWaldmann> (btw that's exactly what I mean, if you test the underlay.tar, you do not test the current state of master pages)
2009-04-14T22:20:03  <dreimark> I know, but also I think the test won't fail at release time
2009-04-14T22:20:17  <dreimark> otherwise i18n is not ready
2009-04-14T22:27:33  * dreimark hates ASCII
2009-04-14T22:37:57  <devilsadvocate> which makes me wonder why moin doesnt use utf-8 for its code like pep8 says
2009-04-14T22:38:42  <ThomasWaldmann> devilsadvocate: you mean like hindi class names? :D
2009-04-14T22:40:28  <devilsadvocate> ThomasWaldmann, to be honest
2009-04-14T22:40:38  <devilsadvocate> i can barely write hindi, let alone type it :P
2009-04-14T22:40:47  <devilsadvocate> but utf-8 is still utf-8
2009-04-14T22:41:00  * ThomasWaldmann likes to have most code ASCII only - because you do not ever have matching terminal setups (like latin1 on some server, utf8 local) and that can really create weird effects.
2009-04-14T22:41:39  <devilsadvocate> hmm
2009-04-14T22:41:57  <devilsadvocate> but utf-8 is nicer, and tbh
2009-04-14T22:42:19  <devilsadvocate> i dont think moin would run on a server backward enough to not support utf-8
2009-04-14T22:42:20  <devilsadvocate> :|
2009-04-14T22:43:09  <ThomasWaldmann> that a os supports utf8 doesnt mean that every server has that as default
2009-04-14T22:43:54  <devilsadvocate> but thats what the header in the file is meant for
2009-04-14T22:44:12  <ThomasWaldmann> that doesn't help
2009-04-14T22:46:07  <ThomasWaldmann> but as we usually don't have non-ascii stuff anyways, it is no big problem
2009-04-14T22:48:17  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, you see those problems all day on some non-ascii irc channels
2009-04-14T22:48:27  <ThomasWaldmann> some people have latin1, some utf8
2009-04-14T22:54:26  <devilsadvocate> hm
2009-04-14T22:54:41  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 363:2bf44dde5191 extensions/data/plugin/action/SystemPages.py: shows a table of System Pages and their translations to the users language
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2009-04-14T23:39:13  <dreimark> btw. if one has a cleaver idea how to compress the personal navigation links you get my attention. sometimes I wish I could hide them
2009-04-14T23:39:41  <ThomasWaldmann> lk tht?
2009-04-14T23:40:13  <devilsadvocate> personal navigation links? the short history on top?
2009-04-14T23:40:30  <ThomasWaldmann> short? :)
2009-04-14T23:40:40  <devilsadvocate> 5 links is not much :p
2009-04-14T23:40:50  <devilsadvocate> dont remember seeing more than that
2009-04-14T23:40:51  <ThomasWaldmann> the quicklinks you get by hitting "Add Link"
2009-04-14T23:41:01  <ThomasWaldmann> (that other thing is the trail)
2009-04-14T23:41:50  <devilsadvocate> ah
2009-04-14T23:41:59  <devilsadvocate> i see the problem
2009-04-14T23:41:59  * dreimark has a big screen ThomasWaldmann knows but currently I have splitted it by two ff windows. half of the screen is now full of my personal links
2009-04-14T23:45:00  <dreimark> if one likes to help http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/PrecedenceTranslation/PagesWithWrongLanguage
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