2009-04-19T00:19:19 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4686:0afc3b994fb0 1.9/MoinMoin/macro/__init__.py: fix macro argument parsing error handling for unicode exception messages
2009-04-19T00:19:20 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4687:2064407bfefd 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: merged main
2009-04-19T00:38:13 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4688:3e4e67bcbedd 1.9/MoinMoin/auth/__init__.py: fix exception when trying to logout while not being logged in
2009-04-19T00:46:22 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4689:bd3f5ccf6fb6 1.9/MoinMoin/support/werkzeug/ (datastructures.py test.py useragents.py utils.py): updated werkzeug
2009-04-19T01:03:01 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4690:61322779dd5d 1.9/.hgtags: tagged release 1.9.0beta2
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2009-04-19T10:19:10 <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 368:f31618787bec extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: action.CheckTranslation: optional parameter language added
2009-04-19T12:09:33 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-04-19T12:09:48 <dreimark> moin
2009-04-19T12:09:53 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: are you working on that ^^ right now?
2009-04-19T12:10:14 <dreimark> I am working on querying wrong mastert page names
2009-04-19T12:10:21 <dreimark> for all langs
2009-04-19T12:10:26 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/PrecedenceTranslation/current_translation
2009-04-19T12:11:02 <ThomasWaldmann> i am just asking because i want to try it and usually while trying I have ideas for modifications
2009-04-19T12:11:50 <dreimark> please do. I upload a new version of the query thing to the FR page later.
2009-04-19T12:12:06 <dreimark> and work on some of the string sI can easy find
2009-04-19T12:13:57 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
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2009-04-19T13:01:58 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 369:95269fc6bc51 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: some minor cleanups / fixes
2009-04-19T13:03:26 * dreimark thinks we have to do a security cleanup for translations see my changes to http://master19.moinmo.in/HjemmesideGrupperSkabelon
2009-04-19T13:03:44 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ^^ and I now transform this to a real action
2009-04-19T13:04:37 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
2009-04-19T13:07:02 <dreimark> assert isinstance(pageset, (list, tuple))
2009-04-19T13:07:08 <dreimark> nice :)
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2009-04-19T13:19:40 * dreimark wow looks like we implement currently some namespace too. e.g. any template page can be verified as template because of it's translation by a given regex
2009-04-19T13:21:30 * TheSheep patiently waits until moin's page naming conventions become Turing-complete
2009-04-19T13:22:12 * dreimark is working currently on the nb_po.txt file
2009-04-19T13:22:29 <dreimark> TheSheep: can you look at the http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/PrecedenceTranslation/current_translation
2009-04-19T13:22:44 <dreimark> and choose one of your favourite lang ;)
2009-04-19T13:29:10 <TheSheep> dreimark: what do I do with the corrected file?
2009-04-19T13:29:28 <dreimark> hmm, you have to correct it on master19
2009-04-19T13:29:36 <dreimark> the pages needs to be corrected
2009-04-19T13:29:39 <dreimark> not the file
2009-04-19T13:29:46 <dreimark> the file is to find the pages
2009-04-19T13:30:01 <dreimark> if you are done with the strings delete the file
2009-04-19T13:30:26 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 370:5dbd61612452 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: transforming it into a real action
2009-04-19T13:30:36 <dreimark> TheSheep: examples http://master19.moinmo.in/RecentChanges
2009-04-19T13:30:43 <ronny> hmm
2009-04-19T13:31:04 <TheSheep> ah, ok
2009-04-19T13:31:11 <ronny> http://codespeak.net/py/trunk/test/funcargs.html <- this one might be kinda neat
2009-04-19T13:31:27 <dreimark> the reason is master19 is more recent than my underlay. but we have to start
2009-04-19T13:34:07 <TheSheep> what's the master for SystemPagesInPolishGroup ?
2009-04-19T13:36:41 <dreimark> it can be in English. but for this page it doesn't matter because it will be removed after the cleanup and po file extension
2009-04-19T13:38:08 * TheSheep sets it to SystemPagesGroup
2009-04-19T13:42:33 <TheSheep> SaveError has occured in PageEditor.deletePage. We need locking there
2009-04-19T13:43:11 <TheSheep> when trying http://master19.moinmo.in/DlaczegoWikiDzia%C5%82a?action=DeletePage
2009-04-19T13:47:37 * dreimark works now on hu_po.txt
2009-04-19T13:50:16 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://master19.moinmo.in/WikiKurzus/AlapvetőIsmeretek is the old (which should have been deleted already)
2009-04-19T13:50:26 * TheSheep reports a bug
2009-04-19T13:50:27 <dreimark> wikicorurse
2009-04-19T13:51:21 * dreimark removes that course now
2009-04-19T13:53:41 <TheSheep> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/CanNotDeleteAPage-SaveError <-- wow, 2 years old bug XD
2009-04-19T13:54:56 * dreimark can't delete too
2009-04-19T13:55:53 <dreimark> strange that may be a problem only on master wikis
2009-04-19T13:56:19 <TheSheep> or when you edit in underlay
2009-04-19T13:56:30 <TheSheep> maybe there is a stale lock there?
2009-04-19T13:56:53 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 371:36a99c8244dc extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: adding language selector
2009-04-19T13:57:23 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: how can we get cur. easily delete working on master19?
2009-04-19T13:57:28 * TheSheep goes to rearrange some cables
2009-04-19T14:12:27 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4691:64c2196fc6b3 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: i18n.strings: add pagesets attribute, add optional_pages list
2009-04-19T14:13:55 <dreimark> TheSheep: add a prefix of DeleteThisPage/ since we can remove it
2009-04-19T14:16:02 <TheSheep> funny
2009-04-19T14:16:14 <TheSheep> this gets me to page 2 of results all the time:
2009-04-19T14:16:17 <TheSheep> http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/fullsearch/DeleteThisPage?action=fullsearch&titlesearch=Tytuły&from=25&from=50&from=75&from=100&from=125&from=150&from=175&from=200&from=225&from=25&from=0&from=0&from=50&from=75&from=100&from=125&from=150&from=175&from=200&from=225&from=50&from=0&from=0&from=50&from=75&from=100&from=125&from=150&from=175&from=200&from=225&from=50&from=0&from=0&from=50&from=0&from=0&from=50&from=0&from=0&from=50&from=75&from=
2009-04-19T14:16:29 <TheSheep> even if I keep clicking 'next'
2009-04-19T14:19:13 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 372:4c9654b4f335 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: add pageset selector
2009-04-19T14:19:47 <ThomasWaldmann> brb
2009-04-19T14:36:51 * dreimark looks at fr_po.txt
2009-04-19T14:50:40 * ThomasWaldmann moved into teh sunshine
2009-04-19T14:51:13 * TheSheep looks out of his window
2009-04-19T14:51:19 <TheSheep> world :(
2009-04-19T15:06:30 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 373:0edec6b35559 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: if lang selection is invalid, give notice and fall back to 'en'
2009-04-19T15:07:17 <ThomasWaldmann> http://master19.moinmo.in/?action=CheckTranslation
2009-04-19T15:08:45 <TheSheep> no worky
2009-04-19T15:09:16 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, i don't like the layout
2009-04-19T15:10:02 <TheSheep> I'd split the third column in two
2009-04-19T15:10:27 <TheSheep> and merge the first two
2009-04-19T15:13:11 <dreimark> TheSheep: is the pl master exchange done for pl_po.txt ?
2009-04-19T15:13:30 <dreimark> I mean can the file be deleted
2009-04-19T15:14:19 <TheSheep> dreimark: ah, right, sorry, the delete problem distracted me
2009-04-19T15:14:29 <TheSheep> dreimark: although there are some pages missing
2009-04-19T15:14:45 <TheSheep> I guess I can translate them later
2009-04-19T15:15:58 <dreimark> what do you mean with missing? some pages which aren't translated yet but needed. or pages which have a wrong string now
2009-04-19T15:16:17 <TheSheep> the former
2009-04-19T15:18:26 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 374:e93b8be38fcc extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: more compact rendering
2009-04-19T15:19:39 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: that action throws curr. a internal server error
2009-04-19T15:23:10 <dreimark> .ooO wespen
2009-04-19T15:23:50 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 375:005e0551b2c6 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: fixes and better rendering
2009-04-19T15:24:30 <ThomasWaldmann> try now (I am still improving rendering)
2009-04-19T15:25:11 <ThomasWaldmann> i think that status column data should be move to the original and translation column
2009-04-19T15:25:57 <ThomasWaldmann> (just below the pagelinks)
2009-04-19T15:26:23 <TheSheep> that's an option too
2009-04-19T15:26:50 <TheSheep> and color-code the ones that differ too much
2009-04-19T15:27:08 <TheSheep> i.e ones that have dates too far apart
2009-04-19T15:29:52 <TheSheep> which reminds me that I was supposed to write that po file parser...
2009-04-19T15:39:06 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 376:2425d9e491dc extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: more compact rendering
2009-04-19T15:41:34 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: the problem is that the dates and sizes don't tell enough
2009-04-19T15:42:05 <dreimark> the categorizer from marian would be nice for that now
2009-04-19T15:42:09 <ThomasWaldmann> an older page can be in a better state than a very recent one
2009-04-19T15:43:07 * dreimark thinks about counting of wiki markup
2009-04-19T15:43:55 <TheSheep> dreimark: with new parser perhaps
2009-04-19T15:53:58 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: do you know why that doesn't work?:
2009-04-19T15:54:00 <ThomasWaldmann> <style type="text/css">
2009-04-19T15:54:00 <ThomasWaldmann> a.nonexistent, a.nonexistent:visited { color: red; }
2009-04-19T15:54:01 <ThomasWaldmann> </style>
2009-04-19T15:54:23 <ThomasWaldmann> (links texts are still grey)
2009-04-19T15:54:39 <dreimark> too late may be
2009-04-19T15:55:04 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: because there is already a more specific rule
2009-04-19T15:55:23 <ThomasWaldmann> there is?
2009-04-19T15:55:47 <TheSheep> like .content a.nonexistent
2009-04-19T15:55:50 <TheSheep> or something
2009-04-19T15:59:04 <ThomasWaldmann> or :link
2009-04-19T16:01:14 <TheSheep> yeah
2009-04-19T16:04:31 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 377:bf4c9c4190b0 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: render nonexistent pagelinks in RED
2009-04-19T16:07:19 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i guess that's what we can do for now
2009-04-19T16:08:09 * dreimark looks at sv_po.txt
2009-04-19T16:09:28 <ThomasWaldmann> did someone double-check those page lists in i18n.strings?
2009-04-19T16:09:51 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: e.g. a link to google.com/translate_t for needed translations would also be good
2009-04-19T16:10:13 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: I've ckecked them by the tests I've written
2009-04-19T16:10:31 <ThomasWaldmann> i am not sure automatic translation is of any help
2009-04-19T16:11:30 <dreimark> people could make it better
2009-04-19T16:12:32 <ThomasWaldmann> having some native speaker who starts from scratch gives likely a better result than someone starting from some crap
2009-04-19T16:13:20 <ThomasWaldmann> (just look at the german microsoft knowledgebase :P )
2009-04-19T16:14:28 <dreimark> haha
2009-04-19T16:14:43 * dreimark currently wonders about what this page is http://master19.moinmo.in/SexCitationsTecken
2009-04-19T16:15:11 <ThomasWaldmann> not much sex on it, eh? :D
2009-04-19T16:15:43 <ThomasWaldmann> (iirc, that is a valid page)
2009-04-19T16:24:17 <dreimark> that means the number six. but it is not easy to guess the en page for it
2009-04-19T16:33:47 <dreimark> and it is a translation of http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SixSingleQuotes
2009-04-19T16:36:39 <ThomasWaldmann> * use the Wiki:SixSingleQuotes escaping,
2009-04-19T16:37:07 <ThomasWaldmann> from HelpOnLinking
2009-04-19T16:43:47 * ThomasWaldmann fixes HelpOnSpam
2009-04-19T16:47:26 * dreimark looks at it_po.txt
2009-04-19T16:55:36 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4692:b033c6e760ba 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: CheckTranslation: remove TODO, fix HelpOnSpam, use list for pagesets
2009-04-19T16:57:08 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 378:929a932ea415 extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: use given order for pagesets, do not sort
2009-04-19T17:26:39 * dreimark looks at pt_po.txt
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2009-04-19T17:43:39 * dreimark looks at ru_po.txt
2009-04-19T18:20:07 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4693:6c5a097aec9f 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: i18n.strings: page sets: added more comments, moved pages to correct list
2009-04-19T18:34:45 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 379:bc9abf2a8b6d extensions/data/plugin/action/CheckTranslation.py: CheckTranslation: add some magic when called from MoinI18n/xx
2009-04-19T19:36:26 * ThomasWaldmann rewrites the i18n page packager
2009-04-19T20:10:48 <ThomasWaldmann> yay, starts working :)
2009-04-19T20:11:53 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess I have found an easy way to get rid of all unmaintained translations :P
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2009-04-19T21:42:57 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4694:8be6f042845b 1.9/MoinMoin/script/maint/mkpagepacks.py: new page packager based on the pagesets in i18n.strings
2009-04-19T21:46:43 * ThomasWaldmann updates master19 i18n
2009-04-19T22:01:39 <ThomasWaldmann> 734 translated messages, 149 untranslated messages. < de translation after removing crap fuzzies
2009-04-19T22:17:00 <dreimark> :)
2009-04-19T23:01:22 <dennda> out of interest, are there user requests from time to time to adjust moin for their specific needs? (payment involved)
2009-04-19T23:01:36 <dennda> (for some professional environment, that is)
2009-04-19T23:04:16 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, sometimes
2009-04-19T23:09:00 <CIA-36> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4695:c243530a15ed 1.9/MoinMoin/i18n/strings.py: i18n.strings: do not translate these
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