MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-05-03

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2009-05-03T13:04:07  <CIA-38> dennda default * 5610:ab8fd60bda21 1.9-storage/wikiconfig.py: add dev settings to wikiconfig in order to not make it crash upon first request
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2009-05-03T13:29:59  <CIA-38> dennda default * 5611:d5075c1db38f 1.9-storage/MoinMoin/user.py: fix reference
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2009-05-03T14:17:15  * ThomasWaldmann plays with jinja / new attachment ui / editor refactoring
2009-05-03T14:37:08  <devilsadvocate_> what file tells moin.wsgi which config file to use (wikiconfig.py vs farmconfig.py) ?
2009-05-03T14:38:34  <TheSheep> devilsadvocate_: it tries farmconfig first, if it doesn't exist, then uses wikiconfig
2009-05-03T14:40:30  <devilsadvocate_> ah. ok
2009-05-03T14:40:50  <devilsadvocate_> so having extraneous farmconfigs in the instance folder is a bad idea
2009-05-03T14:41:03  <devilsadvocate_> if i'm using wikiconfig
2009-05-03T14:41:43  * devilsadvocate_ is trying to do a fully manual install on a prinstine os to list all the required steps
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2009-05-03T17:50:26  <dreimark> moin
2009-05-03T17:51:30  * dreimark is back from a 16km long hiking tour
2009-05-03T17:51:48  <xorAxAx> devilsadvocate: it might be a good idea to read/check the install pages on moinmaster early to see what is outdated/incorrect and how the docs can be restructured for the new install system
2009-05-03T17:52:51  <devilsadvocate> xorAxAx: i'm following those docs almost to the letter, and making some changes that seem sensible in my list of things i did
2009-05-03T17:53:04  <devilsadvocate> xorAxAx: http://moinmo.in/Admin2009/DebianInstallLog
2009-05-03T17:53:33  <devilsadvocate> thats missing the wikiconfig edits.
2009-05-03T17:53:58  <devilsadvocate> i'm going to try to do a migration from a wiki i already have first, since thats going to be more.. umm.. interesting
2009-05-03T17:55:12  <dreimark> devilsadvocate: can you refactor the admin2009 page a bit so that we can see what SOCTODO and TODO is?
2009-05-03T17:55:14  <devilsadvocate> xorAxAx: what do you think of /srv/apache/moin-data/mywiki as a default wiki location?
2009-05-03T17:55:31  <dreimark> moin-data??
2009-05-03T17:55:39  <devilsadvocate> dreimark: yes, i'm going to be doing that soon... in a couple of hours it'll be done
2009-05-03T17:55:45  <devilsadvocate> or just moin
2009-05-03T17:55:55  <dreimark> just moin
2009-05-03T17:56:19  <ThomasWaldmann> usually it is /srv/DOMAIN/...
2009-05-03T17:57:20  <devilsadvocate> this makes sense when i also change my www root to /srv/apache/htdocs or something like that, but that is too far from the usual default of /var/www
2009-05-03T17:57:51  <devilsadvocate> ThomasWaldmann: hm, that makes more sense with /var/www
2009-05-03T17:58:01  <devilsadvocate> (/srv/Domain/...
2009-05-03T17:58:03  <devilsadvocate> )
2009-05-03T17:59:12  <dreimark> do you have usually an own partition for /var ?
2009-05-03T17:59:24  * dreimark has one for /srv
2009-05-03T17:59:59  <dreimark> that's why i prefer instances below /srv
2009-05-03T18:00:24  <devilsadvocate> that was my thinking as well
2009-05-03T18:00:53  <devilsadvocate> leave everything important in /srv so that one partition for that is easier than one for /var, one for /srv, one for /etc ...
2009-05-03T18:02:01  <devilsadvocate> and putting it in /srv/apache would put it close to www root (/srv/apache/www) but not inside it
2009-05-03T18:02:22  <devilsadvocate> but i dont think moving www root from /var/www doesnt seem like a good idea to me
2009-05-03T18:02:55  <dreimark> why is it neccessary to move it?
2009-05-03T18:03:11  <ThomasWaldmann> the easiest way to administrate moin is if all is contained in one base dir
2009-05-03T18:03:14  <devilsadvocate> just so that all the apache stuff is close together
2009-05-03T18:03:48  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. /home/moin, /srv/example.org or whatever
2009-05-03T18:04:15  <devilsadvocate> thats pretty much what i'm hoping to do
2009-05-03T18:06:49  <devilsadvocate> so /srv/domain seems the best bet.
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2009-05-03T18:10:11  <ThomasWaldmann> (but note that when targetting shared hosting, you pretty much have no choice about the directory)
2009-05-03T18:10:35  <devilsadvocate> yep. then it has to go into ~/something.
2009-05-03T18:11:33  <devilsadvocate> i'll keep the prefix and moin folders editable, but i wanted to also provide sane defaults ... possibly two options, one for shared hosting and one for server administrators
2009-05-03T18:30:53  <dreimark> xorAxAx: ThomasWaldmann what do we want to do with the sareq code?
2009-05-03T18:31:18  <xorAxAx> devilsadvocate: the apache bit is a bit weird
2009-05-03T18:32:26  <xorAxAx> devilsadvocate: because moins data is not bound to apache at all
2009-05-03T18:32:44  <dreimark> of packages e.g. do_copythemefile
2009-05-03T18:33:13  <devilsadvocate> as in, the directories location relative to apache?
2009-05-03T18:33:26  <xorAxAx> no, "apache" in "/srv/apache/moin-data/mywiki"
2009-05-03T18:33:48  <devilsadvocate> i know they dont _have_ to be related... just though it would be somewhat simpler
2009-05-03T18:34:08  <devilsadvocate> yeah. that should go into /srv/domain/
2009-05-03T18:34:09  <xorAxAx> TheSheep: so you are at EP? where will you stay there?
2009-05-03T18:35:32  <xorAxAx> hmm, today is discoflux
2009-05-03T18:36:37  * xorAxAx is thinking about going to EP as well
2009-05-03T18:52:46  <TheSheep> xorAxAx: we are not sure yet
2009-05-03T18:53:02  <xorAxAx> i am thinking about HC
2009-05-03T18:54:26  <TheSheep> Ibis?
2009-05-03T18:54:42  <xorAxAx> hospitality club
2009-05-03T18:54:51  <TheSheep> ah
2009-05-03T18:55:01  <xorAxAx> a lot of hosts in the town
2009-05-03T18:55:25  <xorAxAx> but i have never done it yet and i am not sure how restful it would be
2009-05-03T18:56:01  <TheSheep> PawelPacana did it lots of times, maybe you should ask him
2009-05-03T18:56:14  <xorAxAx> ok
2009-05-03T18:56:29  <TheSheep> but I imagine the hosts want to get to know you a little too :)
2009-05-03T18:56:44  * ThomasWaldmann .oO(mimetype item viewing / modifying slowly gets working)
2009-05-03T18:57:09  <xorAxAx> TheSheep: yes
2009-05-03T18:59:08  <dreimark> xorAxAx: ThomasWaldmann me dislikes to remove do_copythemefile from packages. What alternatives do we have?
2009-05-03T18:59:36  <TheSheep> dreimark: btw, did you find out how to list all actions? I think you asked about that before
2009-05-03T18:59:58  <xorAxAx> dreimark: why? if moin new the path, it would work (given correct permissions). so why remove it?
2009-05-03T19:00:49  <dreimark> TheSheep: no. I have recog. that I need some of them and have only removed a few.
2009-05-03T19:01:10  <dreimark> xorAxAx: where do I get the path from?
2009-05-03T19:01:44  <xorAxAx> dreimark: from the config ... the new installer would need to store it somewhere anywhere
2009-05-03T19:01:47  <dreimark> at least the cod needs to be changed because sa = getattr(self.request, "sareq", None) won't work in 1.9
2009-05-03T19:02:36  <xorAxAx> yes, then it should be changed
2009-05-03T19:03:17  <dreimark> with the new installer it will work again but what can we do for 1.9
2009-05-03T19:03:33  <waldi> amartani: hi. i'm the mentor for your gsoc project. sorry for being a little bit ignorant the last days.
2009-05-03T19:03:34  <xorAxAx> well, i dont know how the refactoring looks like
2009-05-03T19:03:41  <xorAxAx> that killed sareq
2009-05-03T19:08:26  <dreimark> we could use the fall back e.g.
2009-05-03T19:08:33  <dreimark> from MoinMoin.web import static
2009-05-03T19:08:38  <dreimark> static.STATIC_FILES_PATH
2009-05-03T19:08:48  <dreimark> introduced by http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/e7f1cf9eeb96
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2009-05-03T19:47:03  <CIA-38> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4721:56548b251138 1.9/MoinMoin/packages.py: packages: do_copythemefile copies now theme files to MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs if write rights are given. This lifts the restriction of using this method only with the standalone server.
2009-05-03T19:59:21  <devilsadvocate> hm. i hope FranklinPiat ( franklin ?) doesnt feel like I'm spamming him :/
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2009-05-03T21:44:01  <ronny> you killed kenny
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