MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-05-10

2009-05-10T01:25:26  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5727:41360186c7cb 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/items/ (__init__.py sendcache.py): improve 304 handling, prepare cached image transformations, fix sendcache
2009-05-10T03:06:11  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5728:4b5213cab022 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: image items: add resize and transpose support
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2009-05-10T09:13:29  <dreimark> moin
2009-05-10T09:13:34  <dreimark> hi dimazest
2009-05-10T09:13:42  <dimazest> hello
2009-05-10T09:14:46  <dimazest> unfortunately, now i'm busy with my university projects to finish them before summer of code begins
2009-05-10T09:15:05  <dimazest> that's why i'm not that active in preparing....
2009-05-10T09:15:19  * dreimark reads currently about mini thesaurus caabble search engines
2009-05-10T09:16:31  <dreimark> dimazest: when do do think to be ready with those projects ?
2009-05-10T09:16:54  <dreimark> s/do/you
2009-05-10T09:17:20  <dimazest> this week, by Friday
2009-05-10T09:19:34  <dreimark> then is one week left. you have to concentrate then on MM
2009-05-10T09:20:39  <dreimark> I guess you'll have questions if you start looking on it
2009-05-10T09:22:08  <dimazest> sure i have questions
2009-05-10T09:26:09  <dreimark> can you manage to stay online. sometimes we would not be able to answer immediatetly. (this will not happen often)
2009-05-10T09:26:33  <dreimark> some of us have a regular job
2009-05-10T09:44:11  <dimazest> ok, i need to setup irc client on server
2009-05-10T09:44:18  <dimazest> or some kind of bouncer
2009-05-10T10:19:02  <ronny> someone with an own v/rootserver - help him out ;P
2009-05-10T10:20:09  <dreimark> dimazest: do you have already sent an ssh key to ThomasWaldmann ?
2009-05-10T10:20:28  <dimazest> yes
2009-05-10T10:20:59  <dreimark> do you have access to an own server ?
2009-05-10T10:21:41  <dimazest> yes, i have mine server
2009-05-10T10:22:32  * dreimark someone should add a simpler export filter for openoffice ugh mediawiki.txt
2009-05-10T10:23:04  <dreimark> dimazest: you can use irssi together with screen
2009-05-10T10:23:42  <dimazest> i can try it
2009-05-10T10:24:37  * dimazest $ sudo yum install irsii
2009-05-10T10:24:41  <dreimark> start screen ctrl a c connects terminals
2009-05-10T10:25:11  <dreimark> ctrl a 1 (switches to the first, 2 to second ..)
2009-05-10T10:25:24  <dreimark> in one of them you can start irssi
2009-05-10T10:25:43  <dreimark> when you close the terminal irssi continues running
2009-05-10T10:26:29  <dreimark> at the next time login to the server start screen -rx and you reload the old running session
2009-05-10T10:27:30  <dimazest> i know, i use screen, but i've never tried irssi
2009-05-10T10:28:40  <dreimark> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
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2009-05-10T10:30:59  <dimazest_irssi> hi, it's me from an irsii client
2009-05-10T10:31:26  <dreimark> dimazest_irssi: :)
2009-05-10T10:35:17  <dimazest_irssi> how can i change theme, somethng like in ve :set background light?
2009-05-10T10:35:27  <dreimark> http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssi
2009-05-10T10:37:13  <dreimark> http://irssi.org/documentation/startup
2009-05-10T10:50:01  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: can you merge accounts on ohloh ? If I try to tell "I am this person" it tells me "You are not authorized to create a alias for this project."
2009-05-10T10:51:29  <dreimark> dimazest_irssi: btw. choose your hgrc name/email well and don't change it over the soc period
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2009-05-10T11:05:33  <dimazest> i've never taught that irssi is so powerful
2009-05-10T11:05:48  <dreimark> yeah there is some power hidden
2009-05-10T11:05:58  <dreimark> do you have seen that it create logs ?
2009-05-10T11:07:17  <dimazest> yes, this channel is logged
2009-05-10T11:15:08  <dimazest> dreimark: i've pushed into sandbox http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9-sandbox/rev/b1191c00307e
2009-05-10T11:15:31  <dimazest> name and email are ok
2009-05-10T11:17:14  <dreimark> :)
2009-05-10T11:18:00  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9-sandbox/rev/854d558d1265 Alexandre is joking
2009-05-10T11:37:16  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-05-10T12:30:48  <dreimark> bbl
2009-05-10T13:27:24  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5729:8e5ced66a6cc 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (6 files in 4 dirs): use ?do=<something> instead of ?action=<something>
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2009-05-10T14:46:39  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5730:43c8f6ba0503 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (action/diff.py items/__init__.py templates/diff.html): simple diff display for text/* items
2009-05-10T14:53:16  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: did you already have a look at the new stuff?
2009-05-10T15:07:22  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: no, I've been busy
2009-05-10T15:11:02  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I'm sorry
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2009-05-10T16:39:43  * ThomasWaldmann writes a new RC
2009-05-10T16:42:59  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: as action?
2009-05-10T16:48:51  <ThomasWaldmann> yes
2009-05-10T16:53:54  <dreimark> TheSheep: action.__init__ has get_available_actions to answer myself the questions from some days ago
2009-05-10T16:59:17  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: hw can i give a name for an image while uploading. It looks to me I can create an image item as Frontpage
2009-05-10T17:00:48  <dreimark> that opens some new possibilities also. we don't need to keep the extension
2009-05-10T17:03:04  <dreimark> it means you can upload an svg (page) as page
2009-05-10T17:12:02  <dreimark> dennda: dublin core is also used by inkscape
2009-05-10T17:17:41  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: that is intended
2009-05-10T17:17:53  <ThomasWaldmann> it is all items now
2009-05-10T17:20:01  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: yeah but how can I give a name to an item
2009-05-10T17:20:44  <ThomasWaldmann> as you ever did for pages
2009-05-10T17:22:30  <dreimark> hmm, I think that is not enough because you can have to type much and you have to create first the item name
2009-05-10T17:23:06  <dreimark> and can't use it from the file
2009-05-10T17:23:55  <dreimark> (if you like to upload first all non text items before writing the text)
2009-05-10T17:25:51  <ThomasWaldmann> we maybe can have a wrapper on the show item UI that simplifies that
2009-05-10T17:26:57  <ThomasWaldmann> but if you take filename from upload and create a (sub) item from it, you will have to type that name when linking to it
2009-05-10T17:27:31  <dreimark> in the past you have done AttachList and copied it
2009-05-10T17:28:00  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, that'ld still work somehow
2009-05-10T17:28:34  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, with filename from upload, there might be encoding problems, not sure
2009-05-10T17:32:30  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5731:ec16ba0b4e27 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (9 files in 6 dirs): ripped out RecentChanges macro, replaced by do=rc action
2009-05-10T17:47:07  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5732:37b413485ab6 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: fix item rename
2009-05-10T17:51:37  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5733:c228320abb88 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (action/rc.py templates/rc.html): add missing files for do=rc action
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2009-05-10T18:59:43  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5734:9855a57ce705 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): simplify actions handling, show all we have (for now)
2009-05-10T19:52:52  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4723:273ec9b3bf7d 1.9/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): remove dumpFormData debug stuff, use logging.debug/repr/etc.
2009-05-10T20:13:03  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5735:a54a666abe91 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (131 files in 5 dirs): remove classic and rightsidebar themes
2009-05-10T20:13:58  <dennda> dreimark: can you, in few words, explain what the benefit of DC would be?
2009-05-10T20:16:02  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5736:bc8d36dfccf4 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (71 files in 3 dirs): remove modern and modernized_cms themes
2009-05-10T20:26:40  <dreimark> dennda: you need to know who was the uploader  of the item which we archieve already but you want to know also who was the creator, publisher from which source and which rights you have when you use the item
2009-05-10T20:28:24  <dreimark> also similiar to a page you need the language for the item. A title / description could be used as alt text or for accesibility
2009-05-10T21:00:39  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5737:967bb3e1c3cf 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (config/multiconfig.py theme/__init__.py theme/modernized.py): use code from modernized as ThemeBase, remove unused code
2009-05-10T21:00:48  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: ^^
2009-05-10T21:02:03  <TheSheep> that may require some changes in the other themes...
2009-05-10T21:02:10  * TheSheep goes to see
2009-05-10T21:03:01  <ThomasWaldmann> what other? :P
2009-05-10T21:20:41  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5738:e8ae39e924c3 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py: theme: minor fixes
2009-05-10T21:30:04  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5739:ee13551c174b 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/ (items/__init__.py theme/__init__.py): move jinja init to theme
2009-05-10T21:56:31  <dreimark> overwriting of an deleted item is not implemented
2009-05-10T21:57:21  <dreimark> reverting does not work
2009-05-10T22:03:04  <ThomasWaldmann>  revert works for me
2009-05-10T22:04:02  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5740:058714383453 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/theme/__init__.py: theme: refactoring, removing unused code
2009-05-10T22:08:59  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark:
2009-05-10T22:16:49  <dreimark> may be it is related to the path
2009-05-10T22:17:04  <dreimark> I have renamed before FrontPage to pi.png
2009-05-10T22:21:00  <ThomasWaldmann> that doesn't matter
2009-05-10T22:21:09  <ThomasWaldmann> how do i reproduce?
2009-05-10T22:27:03  <dreimark> it does matter because it renames it to a deleted revision
2009-05-10T22:27:10  <dreimark> and that can't be reverted
2009-05-10T22:27:33  <dreimark> http://localhost:8080/FrontPage?do=modify&mimetype=image/png
2009-05-10T22:27:41  <ThomasWaldmann> you can't renamed something to something that is deleted
2009-05-10T22:27:45  <dreimark> upload of png
2009-05-10T22:27:54  <dreimark> then rename item to pi.png
2009-05-10T22:28:16  <dreimark> pi.png is then deleted but it should be renamed
2009-05-10T22:28:57  <dreimark> and you can't revert to rev 0
2009-05-10T22:30:14  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i can reproduce the strange deleted effect
2009-05-10T22:40:01  <CIA-18> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5741:4607f8bdcb74 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: move data property to Binary item
2009-05-10T22:40:09  <ThomasWaldmann> try now
2009-05-10T22:40:40  <ThomasWaldmann> it just didn't get the revision data. and as it was empty, it auto-deleted.
2009-05-10T23:03:13  <dreimark> works, but why gives renaming a second rev?
2009-05-10T23:03:39  <dreimark> revert will not rename back
2009-05-10T23:04:18  <ThomasWaldmann> the data duplication is a bit ugly, but the only way to create a metadata entry about the rename
2009-05-10T23:04:50  <ThomasWaldmann> of course not. revert is about revision content, not item name.
2009-05-10T23:05:11  <dreimark> undoing renaming is then not implemented
2009-05-10T23:05:22  <ThomasWaldmann> you can rename it back :)
2009-05-10T23:07:19  <dreimark> rc is not shown in more action
2009-05-10T23:13:41  <ThomasWaldmann> top entry
2009-05-10T23:18:34  <dreimark> me was looking for rc
2009-05-10T23:18:58  <dreimark> MoinMoinBugs/RandomLockAlreadyReleased I wonder when I become angry
2009-05-10T23:25:23  <ThomasWaldmann> Changing the lock timeout from 1.0 ?? to 10.0 makes a real difference.
2009-05-10T23:25:35  <ThomasWaldmann> hah, 10s for some simple file operations?
2009-05-10T23:38:24  <dreimark> stepping of 10s can't be a fix
2009-05-10T23:40:21  <dreimark> gn
2009-05-10T23:43:33  <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.pirnat.com/mike/2009/05/09/the-diaper-pattern-stinks/ haha
2009-05-10T23:43:38  <ThomasWaldmann> gn dreimark