MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-06-17

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2009-06-17T00:53:52  <amartani> hi..
2009-06-17T01:02:18  <ThomasWaldmann> hi amartani
2009-06-17T01:13:22  * xorAxAx sighs, probably cricket is more interesting than SOC
2009-06-17T01:15:31  <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: to mobwrite, i have to create a database file.. what folder should I put it?
2009-06-17T01:17:15  <xorAxAx> amartani: is it temporary or does it store persistent data?
2009-06-17T01:18:34  <amartani> temporary
2009-06-17T01:19:07  <xorAxAx> then into the cache directory somewhere
2009-06-17T01:19:10  <waldi> which sort of data? how long does it need to hold the data?
2009-06-17T01:21:01  <amartani> it is just to store the temporary pages while the users are editing it (before saving)
2009-06-17T01:24:08  <ThomasWaldmann> why does it need to get stored anyway?
2009-06-17T01:24:31  <ThomasWaldmann> because of multiprocess?
2009-06-17T01:27:55  <amartani> well, it needs to keep this data between requests of the users who are editing..
2009-06-17T01:28:56  <ThomasWaldmann> can you just use MoinMoin.caching api?
2009-06-17T01:30:53  <amartani> I can try adapting to it..
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2009-06-17T02:51:53  <amartani> ThomasWaldmann: it seems berkeley db api only accepts filenames to open the database (not file-like objects).. I think because it uses the original C api.. so it will be hard to use caching api..
2009-06-17T02:57:21  <TheSheep> amartani: it's even worse. the exact name(s) of file(s) used to store data are platform/implementation-dependant
2009-06-17T02:57:35  <TheSheep> amartani: I was burned by that already
2009-06-17T02:57:51  <TheSheep> amartani: the number of those files also changes
2009-06-17T03:04:31  <amartani> TheSheep: I don't understand, doesn't it stores everything in the one file you tell it to?
2009-06-17T03:25:09  <CIA-38> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 5933:c8cfa7c5d5bb 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/action/ (_tests/test_mobwrite.py mobwrite.py): Real-time editor: use cache dir to store mobwrite's Berkeley DB files
2009-06-17T03:29:07  <TheSheep> amartani: no, depending on the implementation it creates a a single file, with some extension appended to it or none, a directory called like that, with several files inside, or even several files with different extensions
2009-06-17T06:16:41  <CIA-38> Alexandre Martani <amartani AT gmail DOT com> default * 5934:64706113652f 2.0-storage-editor-amartani/MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs/applets/Mobwrite/mobwrite_moinmoin.js: Real-time editor: re-enable \"save and continue\" button when receiving changes from server.
2009-06-17T08:34:17  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-06-17T08:47:24  <dreimark> moin
2009-06-17T08:48:18  <TheSheep> night :)
2009-06-17T08:48:31  <dreimark> oh, sleep well TheSheep
2009-06-17T08:51:26  <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: still in CA?
2009-06-17T08:51:38  <TheSheep> yes, one more week
2009-06-17T08:51:58  <ThomasWaldmann> admit it, you like the weather there better :D
2009-06-17T08:52:10  <TheSheep> it's been raining for two weeks
2009-06-17T08:52:37  <ThomasWaldmann> huh? that's rather rare there.
2009-06-17T08:52:45  <TheSheep> yup, story of my life ;)
2009-06-17T08:53:25  * ThomasWaldmann sings "it never rains in california (except if sheep is there)."
2009-06-17T08:55:04  <dreimark> +southern
2009-06-17T08:56:46  <dreimark> fsck outlook exchange does not understand a dot at the end of the domain name (that breaks rfc1034)
2009-06-17T09:03:55  <ThomasWaldmann> bbl
2009-06-17T12:03:55  <dennda> ThomasWaldmann: I'd go for the CIA
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2009-06-17T13:19:14  <ext> moin. ThomasWaldmann, I got an email about 1.6devMissingRightsI18n bug on MacOS from Robert Heckendorn. He says umask 0022 workaround doesn't work for him.
2009-06-17T13:21:03  <ext> When I was testing it on Linux distributions, it seemed to work fine with umask set. It may be OS related issue, idk. I don't have Mac to test this.
2009-06-17T13:23:59  <ext> And he mentions that the installation instructions (HowTo/MacOSXwithApacheServer) may be outdated.
2009-06-17T13:24:23  <dreimark> ext: please continue on #moin
2009-06-17T13:24:40  <ext> i don't have anything else to say:)
2009-06-17T13:25:36  <ext> I just don't know how to react to this message
2009-06-17T13:25:42  <dreimark> ext: it is a wiki if that page is outdated one with a mac
2009-06-17T13:25:48  <dreimark> should help on fixing it
2009-06-17T13:26:23  <ext> ok then
2009-06-17T13:26:26  <ext> thanks
2009-06-17T13:55:34  <dreimark> hi ernestas (ext)
2009-06-17T13:55:44  <ext> hey:))
2009-06-17T13:55:58  <ext> I just sent him a reply
2009-06-17T13:56:04  <dreimark> ok
2009-06-17T13:56:04  <ext> and added his comments to the bug page
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2009-06-17T17:17:57  <CIA-38> Bastian Blank <bblank@thinkmo.de> default * 6320:119726014ce7 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: items - Use converters for output
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2009-06-17T18:14:45  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6321:cb3c33753625 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: items: PEP8 and other minor cleanups
2009-06-17T18:14:49  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6322:92c1dca36f7a 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/ (MoinMoin/items/__init__.py wikiserverlogging.conf): items: enhance class hierarchy, differentiate between generic, renderable and playable items
2009-06-17T18:14:50  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6323:fa411fc9b6b3 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: items: fix _find_item_class to find best match
2009-06-17T18:14:53  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin%the-space-station.com> default * 6324:8623b857105d 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
2009-06-17T18:14:53  <CIA-38> storage: Proof of concept for AMW (ACLMiddleWare) as an attribute patched onto
2009-06-17T18:14:55  <CIA-38> the context which then wraps around any call to the actual backend and checks
2009-06-17T18:14:57  <CIA-38> permissions. Removed explicit permission checking from read action
2009-06-17T18:14:59  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6325:4899efd629bb 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 3 dirs): merged 1.9-storage
2009-06-17T18:15:04  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6326:595fc7822d82 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: storage: Make MoinMoin.items use ACLMiddleware
2009-06-17T18:15:07  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6327:474d71f285c4 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py: storage: return a werkzeug Forbidden response after catching an AccessDeniedError in the wsgiapp
2009-06-17T18:15:13  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6328:03ac0503b3b3 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/wsgiapp.py: merge local 1.9-storage
2009-06-17T18:15:16  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6329:4cf92e56f9b9 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/ (MoinMoin/items/__init__.py wikiserverlogging.conf): merge remote 2.0-storage
2009-06-17T18:15:21  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6330:a412c71ab1e8 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/ (6 files in 5 dirs): PEP8 fixes
2009-06-17T18:15:24  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6331:def1aa15609c 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (11 files in 3 dirs): get rid of items.Manager, Manager(...).get_item() -> Item.create(...)
2009-06-17T18:15:27  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6332:eb55e2023c93 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (conftest.py wsgiapp.py): move acl wrapper backend init to separate function so that conftest init can create fresh backends at the right time
2009-06-17T18:15:35  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6333:0b47014ee290 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/items/_tests/test_Item.py: items: added some basic tests
2009-06-17T18:15:38  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6334:38940f7a697d 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/items/_tests/test_Item.py: items: more tests
2009-06-17T18:15:45  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6335:8798f954ce10 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (8 files in 5 dirs): introduce MIMETYPE metadata key constant
2009-06-17T18:15:48  <CIA-38> dennda default * 6336:f6b05306e9c1 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/ (get.py revert.py show.py): storage: minor cleanup
2009-06-17T18:15:51  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6337:f36a62374d20 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/ (8 files in 5 dirs): merge remote 2.0-storage
2009-06-17T18:15:58  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6338:c501b0c0a069 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/ (get.py revert.py show.py): storage: fix recent code cleanup. revisions start counting at 0
2009-06-17T18:16:02  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6339:dcdac6b5b7d5 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/_tests/__init__.py: test support code: use Item instead of Page/PageEditor
2009-06-17T18:16:07  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6340:e2bfde08f184 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/ (get.py revert.py show.py): merge main
2009-06-17T18:16:10  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6341:820885ab18d1 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/items/__init__.py: items: add Item type for (unsafe) HTML rendering
2009-06-17T18:16:13  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6342:04fb1612939e 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/ (get.py revert.py show.py): Backed out changeset c501b0c0a069
2009-06-17T18:16:20  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6343:f0479dbf6cc9 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/ (get.py revert.py show.py): merge
2009-06-17T18:16:23  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6344:e0489132ab5f 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/ (get.py revert.py show.py): Backed out changeset f6b05306e9c1
2009-06-17T18:16:28  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6345:dac11b502f3b 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/action/ (get.py revert.py show.py): merge
2009-06-17T18:16:31  <CIA-38> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6346:a5dbcaaf7194 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/macro/ (4 files in 2 dirs): (log message trimmed)
2009-06-17T18:16:34  <CIA-38> removed macros: Action and EmbedObject
2009-06-17T18:16:36  <CIA-38> Action macro was used to create action links.
2009-06-17T18:16:40  <CIA-38> This can easily be done by link syntax like now, e.g.:
2009-06-17T18:16:42  <CIA-38> [[target||&do=ACTIONNAME]]
2009-06-17T18:16:44  <CIA-38> EmbedObject was used to embed multimedia objects.
2009-06-17T18:16:46  <CIA-38> This can be done by transclusion syntax now, using {{target||PARAMS}}.
2009-06-17T18:16:48  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6347:775239dc02b4 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/storage/_tests/test_middleware_acl.py: storage: Add initial version if ACLMiddleWare testcases
2009-06-17T18:16:54  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6348:4f730ebdf78f 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/storage/backends/acl.py: storage: first in a series of fixes for the AMW
2009-06-17T18:16:57  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6349:c331f688cbbc 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/storage/_tests/test_middleware_acl.py: storage: add another failing testcase for AMW
2009-06-17T18:17:03  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6350:fbe8c3246354 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/storage/backends/acl.py: storage: replace _backend reference on items that come out of create_item with a reference to the AMW instead of one to the real storage backend. (makes AMW raise NotImplementedError for _commit_item)
2009-06-17T18:17:08  <CIA-38> Christopher Denter <moin GUESSWHAT the DASH space DASH station ROUNDTHING com> default * 6351:8f3f50a16d31 2.0-storage-dom-bblank/MoinMoin/storage/backends/acl.py:
2009-06-17T18:17:13  <CIA-38> storage: Fix for NotImplementedError thrown by _commit_item. However, this
2009-06-17T18:17:15  <CIA-38> (7 lines omitted)
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2009-06-17T20:54:07  <dennda> CIA-38: ?
2009-06-17T20:57:59  <waldi> CIA is a bot, he won't answer
2009-06-17T20:59:28  <dennda> you are wrong
2009-06-17T20:59:42  <dennda> don't worry CIA-38, he has no clue... don't let him hurt your feelings...
2009-06-17T20:59:46  * dennda hugs CIA-38 
2009-06-17T20:59:46  * CIA-38 hugs dennda
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2009-06-17T21:02:04  <dimazest> moin
2009-06-17T21:02:10  <dimazest> :)
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2009-06-17T23:41:49  <ThomasWaldmann> re