MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2009-09-06

2009-09-06T00:05:33  <dreimark> re
2009-09-06T00:15:15  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann, dreimark: expect an invitation to pycon.pl soon ;)
2009-09-06T00:15:35  <dreimark> TheSheep: date ?
2009-09-06T00:16:07  <dreimark> :)
2009-09-06T00:16:50  <TheSheep> 16-18 October, http://liwo.polsl.pl/pycon-pl/
2009-09-06T00:19:06  <ThomasWaldmann> that looks like a timing problem
2009-09-06T00:20:03  <TheSheep> yeah, they remembered at the last moment
2009-09-06T00:21:18  <TheSheep> they just asked me about you :)
2009-09-06T00:21:39  <ThomasWaldmann> no, I mean because 1 or 2 of us could be in the US at that time
2009-09-06T00:21:58  <TheSheep> ah, I see
2009-09-06T00:22:28  <dreimark> mentor summit is at 23-24-25
2009-09-06T00:23:02  <ThomasWaldmann> and october california climate is much more promising than polish :))
2009-09-06T00:24:22  <grzywacz> :P
2009-09-06T00:24:33  <grzywacz> ThomasWaldmann, can you remind be about that jabber thingie tomorrow? :S
2009-09-06T00:24:52  <dreimark> grzywacz: on sunday?
2009-09-06T00:25:21  <grzywacz> dreimark, yes, on sunday. Why?
2009-09-06T00:25:27  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: not to mention people speaking a language you can actually understand
2009-09-06T00:25:55  <dreimark> grzywacz: because for it is already sunday since 25 mins.
2009-09-06T00:26:09  <grzywacz> dreimark, maybe in your TZ :P
2009-09-06T00:26:10  <ThomasWaldmann> well, I guess most polish geeks speak english, too :)
2009-09-06T00:26:18  <TheSheep> grzywacz: in our too
2009-09-06T00:26:34  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: but not on polish conferences
2009-09-06T00:27:24  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, yeah, could be.
2009-09-06T00:30:52  <ThomasWaldmann> but i guess we'll meet in berlin later this year :)
2009-09-06T00:32:10  <TheSheep> of course
2009-09-06T00:37:54  <dreimark> dimazest: can you later look through the xapian related feature requests e.g. http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/ExtendFullSearchMacroForOrOperations
2009-09-06T00:54:38  <dreimark> gn
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2009-09-06T10:32:23  <dreimark> moin
2009-09-06T10:32:28  * dreimark contiunes with G
2009-09-06T11:18:08  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
2009-09-06T11:28:32  <dreimark> ldap http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/KeepHomePageNamePattern
2009-09-06T11:29:30  <dreimark> is that an easy to do to add a homepage pattern?
2009-09-06T11:37:33  <ThomasWaldmann> that fr is very misleading
2009-09-06T11:37:39  <ThomasWaldmann> i added a comment
2009-09-06T11:38:08  <ThomasWaldmann> and it is not a easy todo, at least not for someone without a ldap environment
2009-09-06T11:54:36  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, maybe we should only flag that stuff as easy, where:
2009-09-06T11:54:51  <ThomasWaldmann>  * there is a clear plan or vision what needs to be done
2009-09-06T11:55:01  <ThomasWaldmann>  * we really want that feature
2009-09-06T11:55:54  <ThomasWaldmann>  * it can be done in 1.9 without too much change (1.9 could be released by GHOP time)
2009-09-06T11:56:20  <ThomasWaldmann>  * or it can be done in 2.0 (or done in 1.9 and merged into 2.0)
2009-09-06T12:14:26  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/LanguageCategoriesForTemplates
2009-09-06T12:15:20  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: partly that can be done by 1.9 it is nothing else what CheckTranslation does
2009-09-06T12:15:39  <dreimark> http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/CheckTranslation/InterWikiMap?action=CheckTranslation&pageset=all_template_pages&language=en
2009-09-06T12:16:17  <dreimark> add a "show only my language" checkbox is easy done
2009-09-06T12:19:13  <ThomasWaldmann> that requires and additional click
2009-09-06T12:19:31  <ThomasWaldmann> and needs to know what "my languages" are
2009-09-06T12:19:37  <dreimark> or a userconfig where it is enabled on default
2009-09-06T12:20:41  <ThomasWaldmann> so, what would be influenced like that? template list? page list? recent changes? ...?
2009-09-06T12:21:02  <dreimark> template list
2009-09-06T12:21:26  <ThomasWaldmann> but that's just a special page list
2009-09-06T12:21:33  <ThomasWaldmann> why not the other page lists?
2009-09-06T12:23:14  <dreimark> for the template list it is difficult to find the template you want to use if there are too many languge templates
2009-09-06T12:23:33  <dreimark> for pagelist I have no idea why you want that
2009-09-06T12:24:44  <ThomasWaldmann> it could be difficult to find the page you want to use :D
2009-09-06T12:25:16  <dreimark> you can search language dependent, so you have that already
2009-09-06T12:25:26  <ThomasWaldmann> same for templates
2009-09-06T12:25:39  <dreimark> not in the dialog for a new page
2009-09-06T12:25:48  <ThomasWaldmann> not in TitleIndex :)
2009-09-06T12:26:38  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, template selection in 2.0 already works a bit different
2009-09-06T12:28:14  <dreimark> about Easy category I want to flag what we want, where it can be done, or remove the tag in a second step
2009-09-06T12:29:29  <dreimark> currently it is difficult for me while reading all these FR to do it in one pass
2009-09-06T12:31:06  <dreimark> somehow the feature list should get tagged -> release 1.9 / 2.0 or Future if they won't be rejected
2009-09-06T12:32:06  <ThomasWaldmann> that doesn't work in general
2009-09-06T12:33:11  <ThomasWaldmann> because it won't get added until there is acceptable code, so you can't target the release
2009-09-06T12:33:31  <dreimark> we should giv somehow a minimum response to the author of such a page
2009-09-06T12:33:35  <ThomasWaldmann> what can be done is to negatively state "not in 1.9"
2009-09-06T12:34:15  <dreimark> "release" was wrong, something more like to give a direction
2009-09-06T12:34:27  <dreimark> where it can be implemented.
2009-09-06T12:39:10  <dreimark> "not in 1.9" is ok, I can use that.
2009-09-06T12:44:42  <ThomasWaldmann> or "not before 2.0"
2009-09-06T12:44:53  <dreimark> much better
2009-09-06T12:45:08  <dreimark> the other one sounds not friendly
2009-09-06T12:45:09  <ThomasWaldmann> esp. for the stuff that is done there differently and can't be just pulled/merged
2009-09-06T12:46:57  <dreimark> should we use a definition: status:: not before 2.0 or a category?
2009-09-06T12:52:09  <ThomasWaldmann> it can be just added as a note. esp. the "why" is the more interesting part.
2009-09-06T12:52:55  <dreimark> :)
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2009-09-06T13:03:49  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4383:030379520983 1.8/MoinMoin/session.py: add httponly cookie support and use it for session cookie
2009-09-06T13:06:07  <CIA-34> jo.meier@gmx.de default * 5085:d4341ea0b177 1.9-draw/contrib/AnyWikiDraw/AnyWikiDraw/src/main/java/org/anywikidraw/moinmoin/ (MoinMoinDrawingApplet.form MoinMoinDrawingApplet.java): MoinMoinDrawingApplet.java/.form are refactored (renamed) copies of TWikiDrawingApplet.java/.form
2009-09-06T13:07:39  <dreimark> http://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code-2009-moinmoin/downloads/list
2009-09-06T13:08:49  <dreimark> dennda: amartani ^^
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2009-09-06T13:23:56  <dennda> dreimark: Do I just need to upload it there and I'm done? Havn't read the instructions and am in a hurry now
2009-09-06T13:26:33  <xorAxAx> you have to read the lists to get ya money :)
2009-09-06T13:46:41  <dreimark> dennda: the upload is necc. I haven't read the student instructions
2009-09-06T14:11:04  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4384:fcdee4a8809c 1.8/MoinMoin/widget/browser.py: data browser widget: add (h)column<idx> css class to make it styleable
2009-09-06T14:12:13  <dreimark> bbl
2009-09-06T14:26:18  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4385:6fd215462090 1.8/MoinMoin/mail/sendmail.py: add a Auto-Submitted: auto-generated header to generated mails
2009-09-06T14:33:23  <ThomasWaldmann> someone using google chrome here?
2009-09-06T14:51:16  <ThomasWaldmann> ckeditor 3.0 is released :)
2009-09-06T14:54:46  * ThomasWaldmann updates mm 1.8 to fckeditor 2.6.4.1
2009-09-06T14:59:27  <JosefMeier> good good
2009-09-06T14:59:41  <JosefMeier> I hope they have documented it better than the FCKeditor :-)
2009-09-06T15:02:38  <ThomasWaldmann> :)
2009-09-06T15:12:20  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4386:287faf79876f 1.8/wiki/htdocs/applets/FCKeditor/ (40 files in 11 dirs):
2009-09-06T15:12:20  <CIA-34> upgrade FCKeditor from 2.6.4 to 2.6.4.1 (security update, see comments below)
2009-09-06T15:12:20  <CIA-34> The security issue fixed in 2.6.4.1 had no relevance to the FCKeditor features
2009-09-06T15:12:20  <CIA-34> used by MoinMoin. Thus we were not in a hurry to incorporate this and push out
2009-09-06T15:12:22  <CIA-34> a new moin release with it. But as a new moin release is pending now anyway,
2009-09-06T15:12:24  <CIA-34> we include the latest FCKeditor release now anyway, just to have everything
2009-09-06T15:12:26  <CIA-34> up-to-date. :)
2009-09-06T15:47:31  <CIA-34> Josef Meier <jo.meier@gmx.de> default * 5086:02dcb1028bd3 1.9-draw/contrib/AnyWikiDraw/AnyWikiDraw/src/main/java/org/anywikidraw/moinmoin/MoinMoinDrawingApplet.java:
2009-09-06T15:47:31  <CIA-34> - changed splash title to "AnyWikiDraw (alpha) for MoinMoin" without a version cause we don't have one yet
2009-09-06T15:47:31  <CIA-34> - if an graphic object is positioned out of the canvas and its x or y coordinate
2009-09-06T15:47:31  <CIA-34> is getting negative, than this negative coordinate got positive cause of
2009-09-06T15:47:33  <CIA-34> Math.Abs(...) and was added to the images dimensions. So the image dimensions
2009-09-06T15:47:35  <CIA-34> were wrong after saving it. Removed Math.Abs( ) therefore.
2009-09-06T15:47:37  <CIA-34> - if the width or height of an image gets negative, we force it to 20 pixels. The user has then a chance to see at least a small image instead of no image.
2009-09-06T15:55:19  <CIA-34> Josef Meier <jo.meier@gmx.de> default * 5087:c32e1ff86c25 1.9-draw/MoinMoin/action/anywikidraw.py:
2009-09-06T15:55:19  <CIA-34> If the parameters 'DrawingWidth' and 'DrawingHeight' are given to the applet, the drawing will be forced to this dimensions also if the image is smaller. So this parameters should only be set if the users wants that.
2009-09-06T15:55:19  <CIA-34> The applet for MoinMoin is now called "AnyWikiDrawForMoinMoin.jar".
2009-09-06T16:01:17  <CIA-34> Josef Meier <jo.meier@gmx.de> default * 5088:66bea1b200f5 1.9-draw/MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs/applets/anywikidraw/lib/AnyWikiDrawForMoinMoin.jar:
2009-09-06T16:01:17  <CIA-34> The AnyWikiDraw applet for MoinMoin.
2009-09-06T16:01:17  <CIA-34> Now it's compressed to a half of the original file. Saves 50%.
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2009-09-06T16:25:07  <ThomasWaldmann> oh, some svgweb issues were marked as "fixed"
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2009-09-06T16:59:42  <ThomasWaldmann> someone using safari here?
2009-09-06T17:00:18  <ThomasWaldmann> the patch i attached to the chrome bug report could get tested with safari, too. if safari sanitizes the html, we could enable gui editing for it.
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2009-09-06T17:04:10  <y84> maybe add .flv video/x-flv to MIMETYPES_MORE (wikiutil.py)
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2009-09-06T17:18:21  <JosefMeier> bbl
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2009-09-06T17:50:09  <dreimark> re
2009-09-06T18:36:30  <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: are you reading?
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2009-09-06T18:50:10  <ThomasWaldmann> http://code.google.com/p/svgweb/source/detail?r=783
2009-09-06T18:53:02  * ThomasWaldmann updates svgweb from svn
2009-09-06T19:06:58  <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/svg/index.html please check if that renders consistently for you, esp. if you use IE
2009-09-06T19:07:10  <ThomasWaldmann> (compared to e.g. FF)
2009-09-06T19:13:32  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 6792:56d421eed1a0 2.0-storage/MoinMoin/web/static/htdocs/common/js/ (svg.htc svg.js svg.swf): updated svgweb to SVN r783 (using uncompressed files now)
2009-09-06T19:16:26  <ThomasWaldmann> y84: anything else?
2009-09-06T19:36:52  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4387:4c08211daaaa 1.8/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: add .csv and .flv to MIMETYPES_MORE
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2009-09-06T20:41:23  <dreimark> bbl
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2009-09-06T22:20:35  * ThomasWaldmann tries to fix emailimport currently
2009-09-06T22:25:33  <y84> got disconnected earlier, but did see TW's reply to me
2009-09-06T22:25:37  <y84> I also added '.swf': 'application/x-shockwave-flash'
2009-09-06T22:26:06  <y84> to wikiutil.py/MIMETYPES_MORE
2009-09-06T22:36:01  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4388:df8f5b4546ca 1.8/MoinMoin/mail/mailimport.py:
2009-09-06T22:36:01  <CIA-34> mailimport: fix endless looping while trying to import a forwarded mail
2009-09-06T22:36:01  <CIA-34> This is just a fix to solve the endless looping / crash.
2009-09-06T22:36:01  <CIA-34> It needs further improvement, currently the From/To/... header data
2009-09-06T22:36:01  <CIA-34> of the forwarded mail is not processed at all and thus not visible
2009-09-06T22:36:05  <CIA-34> later in the wiki. The body of it is visible, though, but just appears
2009-09-06T22:36:07  <CIA-34> appended to the main mail body.
2009-09-06T22:36:36  <ThomasWaldmann> y84: is this on windows?
2009-09-06T22:38:02  <y84> no, on a Linux host.  Not sure about kernel version (it's a web host)
2009-09-06T22:38:17  <CIA-34> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4389:a362cdd8c418 1.8/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py: add .swf to MIMETYPES_MORE
2009-09-06T22:38:54  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe python should just have the mimetypes list builtin in the stdlib
2009-09-06T22:39:09  <ThomasWaldmann> obviously one can not really rely on /etc/mime.types
2009-09-06T22:39:33  <y84> maybe, but the mimetypes module already looks in all the common locations
2009-09-06T22:39:49  <y84> and provides a function to add files to the list of files to search
2009-09-06T22:40:17  <y84> I can understand that the library wants to remain flexible
2009-09-06T22:40:27  <y84> since not all usefule types are "official"
2009-09-06T22:41:14  <y84> I was happy to find that wikiutil.py provided a nice convenient way to extend mimetypes
2009-09-06T22:41:44  <y84> BTW, I have a version of MoinMoin-1.8.4 now that uses Amazon S3 as attachment backend
2009-09-06T22:42:33  <y84> needed something for production now, so didn't wait for 1.9 or 2.0
2009-09-06T22:43:27  <y84> in order to make as few changes as possible to the source, I used attachment/filename as a layer of indirection
2009-09-06T22:43:45  <y84> metadata goes in attachment/filename, and real file goes on S3
2009-09-06T22:45:29  <y84> had to modify Attach.py a little, though, to add the needed hooks, and to separate some functionality
2009-09-06T22:46:30  <ThomasWaldmann> sounds like a bigger hack :)
2009-09-06T22:46:53  <y84> pretty much
2009-09-06T22:47:04  <y84> I'm sure 2.0 storage router is much better
2009-09-06T22:47:14  <y84> but at least it works
2009-09-06T22:50:57  <y84> MoinMoin really rocks.  Kudos.
2009-09-06T22:52:44  <ThomasWaldmann> moin2 will rock more :D
2009-09-06T22:54:28  <y84> can't wait.
2009-09-06T22:55:06  <ThomasWaldmann> we need more developers :)
2009-09-06T22:57:21  <y84> I'm planning to contribute in the future, after getting a little more organized
2009-09-06T23:04:32  <ThomasWaldmann> see MoinMoin2.0 page
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