1 2010-01-22T00:47:16 *** fucheeno_
2 2010-01-22T00:53:27 *** fucheeno
3 2010-01-22T01:07:04 *** fucheeno_
4 2010-01-22T03:00:59 *** grzywacz
5 2010-01-22T05:29:15 *** grzywacz
6 2010-01-22T08:51:30 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
7 2010-01-22T12:55:36 *** moin5
8 2010-01-22T12:57:14 <moin5> hi moin devs! can someone give me a pointer? I want to know which function produces the text-based editor. I've been grepping for it for half an hour and getting no-where!
9 2010-01-22T12:59:55 <ThomasWaldmann> hi moin5
10 2010-01-22T13:00:05 <ThomasWaldmann> it's in MoinMoin/PageEditor.py
11 2010-01-22T13:01:09 <moin5> hi ThomasWaldmann ! Thanks for that. Should have guessed... I'm about to graduate from simple macros to hacking the main code for our work wiki.
12 2010-01-22T13:01:30 <moin5> Have to say, it's a very impressive program, moinmoin!
13 2010-01-22T13:02:27 <ThomasWaldmann> hopefully the impression doesn't get too negative :D
14 2010-01-22T13:02:49 <ThomasWaldmann> what do you plan to hack there?
15 2010-01-22T13:04:56 <moin5> i'm looking at putting in a facility to create a page directly from a form submission
16 2010-01-22T13:06:40 <ThomasWaldmann> you could do that using an action and use PageEditor class just for writing the page
17 2010-01-22T13:08:19 <moin5> i noticed that way of doing it, but thought (niaively) that it might be easier this way!
18 2010-01-22T13:10:52 <ThomasWaldmann> you maybe don't want to hack that into PageEditor, that code is rather complicated anyway
19 2010-01-22T13:12:57 <moin5> i have seen the FormSubmit macro, but couldn't see how to make that dump directly into a (sub)page
20 2010-01-22T13:14:29 <moin5> i don't want to use submitcsv though
21 2010-01-22T13:15:35 <ThomasWaldmann> use action or macro to render form, post to action url, use own action to create a page
22 2010-01-22T13:16:42 <moin5> what i was thinking i might learn from PageEditor is how to do the "create a page" bit...
23 2010-01-22T13:27:24 <ThomasWaldmann> search for write_file or so
24 2010-01-22T13:27:39 <moin5> thanks for the tip!
25 2010-01-22T13:29:44 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/MoinAPI/Beispiele#PageEditor
26 2010-01-22T13:31:07 <moin5> ahh... is there an english version?
27 2010-01-22T13:32:38 <ThomasWaldmann> iirc no, but you can read the src fragments
28 2010-01-22T13:33:49 <moin5> i'll see what i can make of it ;-)
29 2010-01-22T13:46:17 <moin5> Looks like i need PageEditor.saveText () is used to store text on a page. (google translate link at top of page is quite readable).
30 2010-01-22T14:02:41 <dreimark> moin
31 2010-01-22T14:09:14 <ThomasWaldmann> hi dreimark
32 2010-01-22T14:26:53 <moin5> ThomasWaldmann: I'm going to have to give up on this for now, but thanx for the help!
33 2010-01-22T14:28:12 *** moin5
34 2010-01-22T15:06:24 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I've just set up pootle for translations, it seems to work pretty well
35 2010-01-22T15:07:19 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I can set up another one for moin
36 2010-01-22T15:07:23 <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: http://translation.hatta-wiki.org/
37 2010-01-22T15:29:46 <ronny> TheSheep: no openid?
38 2010-01-22T15:31:55 <TheSheep> ronny: you can implement it for pootle if you like
39 2010-01-22T15:32:05 <TheSheep> ronny: should be easy, it's django-based
40 2010-01-22T15:32:39 <ronny> TheSheep: im kind of a transifex fan tho
41 2010-01-22T15:33:35 <TheSheep> ronny: do they cure that?
42 2010-01-22T15:42:52 <TheSheep> ronny: hmm... interesting, I will give it a try too
43 2010-01-22T15:43:57 <ronny> hmm
44 2010-01-22T15:44:07 <ronny> meh, transifex removed openid support
45 2010-01-22T15:44:23 <TheSheep> I suppose it's easy to add as pylons middleware?
46 2010-01-22T15:44:50 <TheSheep> ah, sorry, it's not pylons
47 2010-01-22T15:44:55 <TheSheep> I looked into wrong sources :)
48 2010-01-22T15:45:17 <TheSheep> it's django too...
49 2010-01-22T15:55:48 <ThomasWaldmann> I guess we'll have a duel about translation systems tomorrow at noon :P
50 2010-01-22T15:56:22 <ThomasWaldmann> ronny vs. TheSheep first, renato vs. me second, etc. :D
51 2010-01-22T15:57:56 <ronny> TheSheep: lets empty a case of staropramen, then throw the bottles at renato
52 2010-01-22T15:58:45 <TheSheep> it's just a loose offer
53 2010-01-22T15:58:50 * TheSheep shrugs
54 2010-01-22T15:59:15 <ronny> TheSheep: thats why we'll drink and attack the launchpad fan :P
55 2010-01-22T15:59:53 <ThomasWaldmann> using launchpad somehow has the charm of maybe other translators contributing automatically
56 2010-01-22T16:00:13 <ThomasWaldmann> but i guess I'll just wait for someone doing the necessary automation
57 2010-01-22T16:29:13 *** fucheeno
58 2010-01-22T16:44:29 *** fucheeno
59 2010-01-22T17:15:44 <dreimark> hi
60 2010-01-22T17:19:21 <dreimark> someone tried to explain me today the databse entries (done by a java program) need to be old ascii conform. german umlauts or blanks would make trouble. is this also a problem for our database storage in 2.0 ?
61 2010-01-22T17:20:01 <dreimark> it seems to me strange that databases don't use unicode keys
62 2010-01-22T17:20:42 <dreimark> bbl
63 2010-01-22T17:21:27 <TheSheep> dreimark: the names of the tables usually have to be ascii
64 2010-01-22T17:21:44 <TheSheep> dreimark: the values themselves are usually handled ok by modern engines
65 2010-01-22T17:22:16 <TheSheep> but then again, if the user ever gets to see the database or table name, you are doing it wrong
66 2010-01-22T18:20:17 <dreimark> seems that app does not make this mapping for the user
67 2010-01-22T18:21:19 <dreimark> it looks lie it lets the user create table names and they need to tell the user what names are valid
68 2010-01-22T18:22:10 <TheSheep> that is... intersting way of doing it
69 2010-01-22T18:24:26 <ronny> dreimark: always remember the table 'HAHAHA; drop table users ;--'
70 2010-01-22T18:36:37 <dreimark> hehe
71 2010-01-22T18:36:57 <dreimark> that course continues on monday
72 2010-01-22T18:37:28 <dreimark> i think i get some ideas what can be made better what we also can use in moin2
73 2010-01-22T18:38:08 <dreimark> one of the things i am currently thinking on is a new item bases on the container itemm
74 2010-01-22T18:41:09 <dreimark> if we have at the moment a page where we add an image on it we can only have each item alone under revision control.
75 2010-01-22T18:42:13 <dreimark> with the containeritem we also can have the itemdata of the page and the itemdata of the image in one container
76 2010-01-22T18:43:37 <dreimark> this is for example for deprecated interesting. you don't want to set each item deprecated which is used on the page
77 2010-01-22T18:45:58 <dreimark> so everything becomes added to the deprecation container.
78 2010-01-22T19:48:57 <ThomasWaldmann> hm? you can't store items into our containerfile, it just contains a bunch of files.
79 2010-01-22T19:52:10 <dreimark> any snapshot of item data could be added to it
80 2010-01-22T20:23:15 <ThomasWaldmann> what's the point of making stuff that complicated?
81 2010-01-22T20:23:42 <ThomasWaldmann> (and kind of "locked away" due to that)
82 2010-01-22T20:29:30 <dreimark> isn't deprecated doing this?
83 2010-01-22T20:30:11 <ThomasWaldmann> i mean what's the point of packing stuff into a tarfile if you don't need to?
84 2010-01-22T20:31:12 <ThomasWaldmann> the reason that containeritem exists is because our backend can't revision multiple related FILES
85 2010-01-22T20:31:33 <ThomasWaldmann> because of that, we make one file out of them and revision that
86 2010-01-22T20:31:48 <dreimark> i know, i just thought we can use it not only because of this
87 2010-01-22T20:32:15 <ThomasWaldmann> (and these files are strongly related, "one save")
88 2010-01-22T20:32:20 <dreimark> ok
89 2010-01-22T20:32:31 <dreimark> i have a different question
90 2010-01-22T20:32:56 <dreimark> contexts.HTTPContext.write seems to be able to send None
91 2010-01-22T20:33:12 <dreimark> and writes then None on the page
92 2010-01-22T20:33:25 <dreimark> as word
93 2010-01-22T20:39:31 *** grzywacz
94 2010-01-22T20:40:07 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i mean i need to check if it is not None e.g.
95 2010-01-22T20:40:11 <dreimark> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/168507/
96 2010-01-22T21:05:26 <ThomasWaldmann> haha
97 2010-01-22T21:15:34 <dreimark> in the past it was not needed
98 2010-01-22T21:48:00 <ThomasWaldmann> well, there shouldn't be None in the output stream in the first place
99 2010-01-22T21:52:06 * ThomasWaldmann continues with moin2 storage
100 2010-01-22T21:59:17 <dreimark> yeah it wasn't also in 1.8
101 2010-01-22T21:59:50 * dreimark looks at it tom. today too tired
102 2010-01-22T23:34:56 <xorAxAx> dreimark: did you fix your XSS holes already?
