MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-02-25

   1 2010-02-25T00:00:04  <dreimark> franklin: can you reproduce the bug also in the standalone desktop server wiki?
   2 2010-02-25T00:02:54  <dreimark> gn
   3 2010-02-25T00:33:28  <franklin> dreimark: Yes (with Debian's "standalone Desktop" http://paste.pocoo.org/show/182286/ )
   4 2010-02-25T00:38:39  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: POX made a fix, but either I have misunderstood it or it doesn't work with 0.5.1
   5 2010-02-25T00:40:23  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: so you use moin191 and werkzeug060?
   6 2010-02-25T00:43:19  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/182288/ check if that works for you
   7 2010-02-25T00:45:00  <franklin> let me try that..
   8 2010-02-25T00:45:54  <franklin> well done, it seems to work
   9 2010-02-25T00:46:39  <ThomasWaldmann> but only with 0.6, not 0.5.1, right?
  10 2010-02-25T00:48:59  <franklin> Correct, your patch work with werkzeug 0.6.0 but not with 0.5.1
  11 2010-02-25T00:51:11  <franklin> Apache+fastcgi fails with http://paste.pocoo.org/show/182298/
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  13 2010-02-25T00:57:49  <ThomasWaldmann> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/182303/
  14 2010-02-25T00:58:12  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: ^^
  15 2010-02-25T01:04:27  <franklin> works with 0.6....
  16 2010-02-25T01:05:31  <franklin> and 0.5.1 (both apache+fastcgi and desktop edition)
  17 2010-02-25T01:05:37  <franklin> \o/
  18 2010-02-25T01:06:23  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i am waiting for comments on #pocoo, but if there is no better idea, I'll commit that
  19 2010-02-25T01:06:30  <ThomasWaldmann> thanks for testing!
  20 2010-02-25T01:10:32  <franklin> gn
  21 2010-02-25T01:10:39  <ThomasWaldmann> gn franklin
  22 2010-02-25T01:36:08  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5582:ca98db50efac 1.9/MoinMoin/web/ (contexts.py request.py): request: fix for werkzeug 0.6 and 0.5.1 compatibility
  23 2010-02-25T01:36:10  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5583:ea0b35b54bbf 1.9/MoinMoin/util/filesys.py: merged main
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  26 2010-02-25T06:42:00  <moin1> hey everybody
  27 2010-02-25T06:42:02  <moin1> Im sorry
  28 2010-02-25T06:42:09  <moin1> I know this is not the channel
  29 2010-02-25T06:42:21  <moin1> but Ive been waiting for a while in the other one
  30 2010-02-25T06:42:32  <moin1> I installed moin 1.8.6 on apache
  31 2010-02-25T06:42:47  <moin1> and i finally made the first page work right
  32 2010-02-25T06:42:51  <moin1> lets say
  33 2010-02-25T06:42:58  <moin1> http://localhost/www/
  34 2010-02-25T06:43:00  <moin1> but
  35 2010-02-25T06:43:09  <moin1> the links in that page point to
  36 2010-02-25T06:43:30  <moin1> http://localhost/usr/local/moin/www/NameOfTheLinK
  37 2010-02-25T06:43:39  <moin1> i've been poking arounf
  38 2010-02-25T06:43:49  <moin1> and cant solve it
  39 2010-02-25T06:43:51  <moin1> any idea?
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  42 2010-02-25T08:52:23  <ThomasWaldmann> moin
  43 2010-02-25T11:43:49  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5584:dc574a6d2516 1.9/MoinMoin/ (PageEditor.py userprefs/prefs.py):
  44 2010-02-25T11:43:49  <CIA-47> text editor: if edit_rows==0 (user profile or config), dynamically size the text editor height
  45 2010-02-25T11:43:49  <CIA-47> Accepts anything from 0..999 for edit_rows userprefs now.
  46 2010-02-25T11:43:49  <CIA-47> Dynamic height is 1.5 * current height. Use Preview if this is not enough.
  47 2010-02-25T11:43:49  <CIA-47> This is done for devices like the iPhone, when user can't operate double sliders.
  48 2010-02-25T11:43:49  <CIA-47> It might be comfortable even on other devices to not have to deal with double sliders.
  49 2010-02-25T11:45:08  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: you can operate double sliders on iphone
  50 2010-02-25T11:45:15  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: you just use more fingers
  51 2010-02-25T11:48:29  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe he has not enough fingers :D
  52 2010-02-25T11:48:50  <ThomasWaldmann> (or he doesn't know :)
  53 2010-02-25T11:50:13  <ThomasWaldmann> but maybe 1 slider is better anyway
  54 2010-02-25T12:54:06  <dreimark> moin
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  56 2010-02-25T13:14:49  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: bug in AttachList
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  58 2010-02-25T13:15:18  <dreimark> unzip is not working
  59 2010-02-25T13:15:25  <dreimark> in 1.8
  60 2010-02-25T13:20:06  <dreimark> and 1.9
  61 2010-02-25T13:30:54  <ThomasWaldmann> works for me
  62 2010-02-25T13:32:55  <ThomasWaldmann> no, it works for AttachFile unzipping, for AttachList it needs the same modification as there, in 1.8
  63 2010-02-25T13:33:15  <ThomasWaldmann> welcome to the world of copy&paste code :P
  64 2010-02-25T13:40:10  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, no. likely AttachFile:82
  65 2010-02-25T13:40:31  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/AttachListUnzip fails
  66 2010-02-25T13:40:49  <dreimark> ok, understand now
  67 2010-02-25T13:42:51  <dreimark> tat +82 change isn't doing it alonwe
  68 2010-02-25T13:44:41  <dreimark> ticketing must be removed from _do_unzip too.
  69 2010-02-25T13:45:28  <dreimark> hmm or we don't show the unzip dialog
  70 2010-02-25T13:46:25  <dreimark> as we don't show delete too
  71 2010-02-25T13:50:39  <ThomasWaldmann> what unzip dialog?
  72 2010-02-25T13:53:06  <ThomasWaldmann> the ticket stuff needs debugging
  73 2010-02-25T13:53:25  <ThomasWaldmann> the link has a ticket, but it still behaves as there was none (or an invalid one)
  74 2010-02-25T13:53:27  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/AttachListUnzip fails
  75 2010-02-25T13:54:16  <dreimark> the ticketing needs debugging, but also unzip has no readonly check
  76 2010-02-25T13:54:35  <dreimark> two issues
  77 2010-02-25T13:55:24  <ThomasWaldmann> yes, so why do you put it into wrong bug report?
  78 2010-02-25T13:55:41  <dreimark> you are right
  79 2010-02-25T13:55:45  <dreimark> sorry
  80 2010-02-25T13:55:49  * dreimark fixes it
  81 2010-02-25T14:03:40  <CIA-47> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 4492:5835fd165996 1.8/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: AttachFile._build_filelist: verifies readonly flag for unzip file link
  82 2010-02-25T16:41:45  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: found the other problem
  83 2010-02-25T16:42:13  <dreimark> :)
  84 2010-02-25T16:51:53  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 3892:369a2c879eb6 1.7/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: attachUrl: fix wrongly generated tickets (e.g. for AttachList macro)
  85 2010-02-25T16:52:49  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 4494:c68058eaa6be 1.8/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: merged moin/1.7
  86 2010-02-25T17:27:05  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5588:4a50a70af35d 1.9/MoinMoin/action/AttachFile.py: merged moin/1.8
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  88 2010-02-25T17:29:07  * ThomasWaldmann gtg, please do some tests
  89 2010-02-25T17:52:02  <CIA-47> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 5589:a8199daaf217 1.9/MoinMoin/web/request.py: web.requests: PEP8 whitespace fix
  90 2010-02-25T17:52:14  <dreimark> no idea why this didn't happen before
  91 2010-02-25T18:26:15  <dreimark> bbl
  92 2010-02-25T18:43:01  <ronny> dreimark: pep8.py is a messy fucked up hell
  93 2010-02-25T18:46:37  <TheSheep> ronny: is there any piece of code that you consider nice?
  94 2010-02-25T18:46:52  <ronny> TheSheep: yes, there are
  95 2010-02-25T18:47:09  <TheSheep> ronny: for example?
  96 2010-02-25T18:47:24  <ronny> werkzeug, execnet, py.path
  97 2010-02-25T18:47:36  <TheSheep> all of werkzeug?
  98 2010-02-25T18:47:55  <ronny> there are some necessary evils
  99 2010-02-25T18:48:08  <ronny> but in general its good, in terms of apis and wtf-rate
 100 2010-02-25T18:48:36  <TheSheep> like automatic detection of string/unicode in all string-related functions and forced encoding to utf-8?
 101 2010-02-25T18:49:26  <ronny> from my pov anything else tends to be fail, and boy am i happy not to have to deal with that
 102 2010-02-25T18:49:38  <ronny> its a necessary evil
 103 2010-02-25T18:49:48  <ronny> cause http and wsgi are both messes
 104 2010-02-25T18:50:02  <ronny> and werkzeug takes away all the pain
 105 2010-02-25T18:50:23  <ronny> taking away pain is a good metric on how likely i am to like something
 106 2010-02-25T18:51:17  * TheSheep doesn't believe in painkillers that only sweep the problems under the rug
 107 2010-02-25T18:51:58  <TheSheep> but really, I don't want to argue, I was just curious about some examples of good code
 108 2010-02-25T18:52:28  <ronny> in general the recent refactorings holger did on py.test/execnet are pretty nice
 109 2010-02-25T18:52:54  <TheSheep> I need to look at py.path, so far it was just "that weird magic that makes all the py.test documentation and examples hard to understand"
 110 2010-02-25T18:53:13  <ronny> py.path takes away all the pain in dealing with filesystem paths
 111 2010-02-25T18:53:32  <TheSheep> all of it?
 112 2010-02-25T18:53:46  <TheSheep> you mean I can use any unicode characters in filenames and it won't eat me alive?
 113 2010-02-25T18:53:47  <ronny> from my point of view yes
 114 2010-02-25T18:53:54  <ronny> i dont use that
 115 2010-02-25T18:54:15  <TheSheep> then what do you use?
 116 2010-02-25T18:54:32  <TheSheep> I mean, what kind of pains does it take away?
 117 2010-02-25T18:54:39  <TheSheep> the worst ones
 118 2010-02-25T18:55:03  <ronny> well, it kills all those pains from os/os.path and gives a coherent object with a simple api
 119 2010-02-25T18:56:14  <TheSheep> can you name one or two?
 120 2010-02-25T18:59:54  <ronny> it moves all the operations to a single object thats just pleasant to use, its kinda hard to be concrete - everything just seems suddenly pleasant
 121 2010-02-25T19:00:53  <TheSheep> somhoew I never found paths particularly painful (except for the various limitations of certain operating systems, but I don't think py.path works around those)
 122 2010-02-25T19:01:10  <TheSheep> but I'm an old bash scripter
 123 2010-02-25T19:01:18  <ronny> TheSheep: the code just is a lot shorter and still more readable now
 124 2010-02-25T19:02:08  <ronny> its one of those enhacnements you cant quantify, but dont want to miss once you experienced them
 125 2010-02-25T19:02:22  <TheSheep> ronny: I don't find the snippets I saw in the py.test more readable, more like completely obscure
 126 2010-02-25T19:03:04  <TheSheep> but of course the code may still be nice :)
 127 2010-02-25T19:03:38  <ronny> TheSheep: well, since i really started to use it, i never ever want to miss it
 128 2010-02-25T19:03:50  <ronny> and you know how hard it is to convince me something is good :)
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 130 2010-02-25T19:51:56  <dreimark> re
 131 2010-02-25T19:56:52  <dreimark> does one use fcgi ?
 132 2010-02-25T19:59:53  <TheSheep> which one?
 133 2010-02-25T20:08:51  <dreimark> the one of the bugreport
 134 2010-02-25T20:09:11  <TheSheep> the bugreport?
 135 2010-02-25T20:09:30  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/191AttachmentsProduceDuplicateHeaderErrorWithFastCGI
 136 2010-02-25T20:10:01  <TheSheep> ouch
 137 2010-02-25T20:11:44  * dreimark hasn't seen this before, but i usually use Image for displaying images
 138 2010-02-25T20:16:49  <TheSheep> dreimark: I remember there was a similar bug in moin some years ago, Thomas worked around it by marking which headers should be replaced and which ones should be just appended
 139 2010-02-25T20:17:07  <TheSheep> dreimark: apparently that code went away with the wsgi refactoring
 140 2010-02-25T20:17:35  <TheSheep> (personally, I don't like the idea of default content type in response)
 141 2010-02-25T20:47:32  <dreimark> that was likly in http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.8/file/c68058eaa6be/MoinMoin/request/__init__.py#l1347
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 146 2010-02-25T23:35:13  <ThomasWaldmann> re