MoinMoin: MoinMoinChat/Logs/moin-dev/2010-02-28

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  11 2010-02-28T11:13:03  <dreimark> niub
  12 2010-02-28T11:13:32  <dreimark> s/niub/moin/ +
  13 2010-02-28T11:33:08  <TheSheep> :D
  14 2010-02-28T11:33:12  <TheSheep> NiubNiub
  15 2010-02-28T11:33:21  <TheSheep> sounds like a fork
  16 2010-02-28T11:33:49  <TheSheep> OmNomNom
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  18 2010-02-28T12:35:08  <dreimark> bbl
  19 2010-02-28T12:43:05  <dreimark> just an idea we can we have a flup based deployment on master19
  20 2010-02-28T12:43:22  <dreimark> then this becomes tested by language contributors too
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  25 2010-02-28T14:30:44  <moin9> hi all, where i can find docs about MoinMoin Events? i mean docs about event handler API. i need it to write a plugin. thank you
  26 2010-02-28T14:32:35  <TheSheep> moin9: I know that this will sound poor, but it's mostly documented in docstrings in the code
  27 2010-02-28T14:32:44  <dreimark> doc.moinmo.in
  28 2010-02-28T14:33:13  <TheSheep> docs.moinmo.in
  29 2010-02-28T14:33:16  <TheSheep> forgot about that
  30 2010-02-28T14:33:23  <TheSheep> it's still the docstrings though :)
  31 2010-02-28T14:33:30  <dreimark> http://docs.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/
  32 2010-02-28T14:33:32  <dreimark> yes
  33 2010-02-28T14:33:50  <dreimark> but we can point on something easier
  34 2010-02-28T14:34:10  <moin9> ah ok! it's enough! thank you guys
  35 2010-02-28T14:34:18  <dreimark> moin9: look into how emialnotify works as an example
  36 2010-02-28T14:34:32  <moin9> yes i will do
  37 2010-02-28T14:36:44  <moin9> thank all you guys! :-)
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  39 2010-02-28T15:31:51  * ThomasWaldmann updates i18n
  40 2010-02-28T15:55:56  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5593:2386006b83ac 1.9/wiki/underlay.tar: updated underlay
  41 2010-02-28T15:59:48  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5594:41eaf2255cb6 1.9/docs/ (INSTALL.html UPDATE.html): make install-docs interwiki
  42 2010-02-28T16:09:01  * ThomasWaldmann .oO(crappy search tests, don't work with a fresh clone)
  43 2010-02-28T16:09:49  <ThomasWaldmann> and take ages
  44 2010-02-28T16:10:07  <dreimark> it takes longer if you have a very big testwiki
  45 2010-02-28T16:11:29  <ThomasWaldmann> it has to work sanely on a fresh clone at least.
  46 2010-02-28T16:21:57  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5595:090327e92862 1.9/docs/CHANGES: updated CHANGES
  47 2010-02-28T16:25:40  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: please check REQUIREMENTS docs, twikidraw entries
  48 2010-02-28T16:45:10  <ThomasWaldmann> b68e8768fc86f80eebe4b0a466be19b7  moin-1.9.2.tar.gz
  49 2010-02-28T16:45:59  <ThomasWaldmann> a first "release candidate" archive for testing is currently uploading
  50 2010-02-28T16:51:02  <ThomasWaldmann> ignore that one. syspages missing.
  51 2010-02-28T16:51:16  <dreimark> ok
  52 2010-02-28T16:58:26  <ThomasWaldmann> bd599c9dab1be08b055926c0604c7f1e  moin-1.9.2.tar.gz
  53 2010-02-28T16:58:44  <ThomasWaldmann> http://static.moinmo.in/files/moin-1.9.2.tar.gz
  54 2010-02-28T16:59:09  <dreimark> the readme of twikidraw plugin tells
  55 2010-02-28T16:59:12  <dreimark> This is a modified source tree of TWikiDrawPlugin of 29 Jan 2003 - 21:47
  56 2010-02-28T17:00:34  <ThomasWaldmann> so REQUIREMENTS should tell "Using a modified ..." and should point to contrib/
  57 2010-02-28T17:00:52  <ThomasWaldmann> please also check whether we need to do same for awd
  58 2010-02-28T17:01:34  <ThomasWaldmann> that 1.9.2 archive still has werkzeug 0.5.1 btw
  59 2010-02-28T17:03:46  <dreimark> in official awd 0.14 all moin related changes were added. I have added a copy of it to moin by http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/rev/ca71ebe6af6d
  60 2010-02-28T17:04:00  * ThomasWaldmann is still undecided whether to bundle 0.6.x or not
  61 2010-02-28T17:04:18  <dreimark> i think we can do it in 1.9.3
  62 2010-02-28T17:04:59  <dreimark> the current werkzeug runs since some months on our servers
  63 2010-02-28T17:28:13  * dreimark plays with cgi
  64 2010-02-28T17:38:57  <ThomasWaldmann> maybe test moin.cgi AND moin.fcgi
  65 2010-02-28T17:47:14  <dreimark> yes, it is a good time to reconfigure all test wiki
  66 2010-02-28T17:56:27  <dreimark> i got once http://paste.pocoo.org/show/183905/ by fcgi
  67 2010-02-28T17:57:00  <dreimark> going to LanguageSetup the action before I used was deleting a page
  68 2010-02-28T17:58:56  <dreimark> (can't reproduce)
  69 2010-02-28T18:01:36  * ThomasWaldmann will do some windows tests
  70 2010-02-28T18:09:23  <franklin> Hi, speaking about cgi/fcgi, Debian will probably ship this default apache configuration file: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/183913/ (comments are welcome / feel free to steal what ever you want)
  71 2010-02-28T18:21:09  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: the point of using /moin_staticXXX is that one can use infinite lifetime for static data
  72 2010-02-28T18:21:26  <ThomasWaldmann> of course that doesn't work if you update fckeditor independently of moin
  73 2010-02-28T18:22:44  <ThomasWaldmann> but it would work for /usr/share/moin stuff
  74 2010-02-28T18:24:36  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: you should use wsgi daemon ever
  75 2010-02-28T18:29:08  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: you noticed that moin.cgi and moin.fcgi are BOTH being able to serve CGI and FCGI?
  76 2010-02-28T18:30:27  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: nice server autodetection :)
  77 2010-02-28T18:30:42  <franklin> The usera agent still request and cache the URL as /moin_static192/js/... but the web server configuration won't be updated.
  78 2010-02-28T18:33:10  <ThomasWaldmann> as soon as you update moin to a new release, the url will change
  79 2010-02-28T18:33:28  <franklin> I have updated README.Debian file to recommend to use WSGI (as upstream). Since you support CGI and flup stuffs, it was easy to provide a fall back (Who knows, there might be some valid reasons to use CGI).
  80 2010-02-28T18:33:56  <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, like "speed scares me" :D
  81 2010-02-28T18:34:03  <franklin> :D
  82 2010-02-28T18:45:38  * franklin now runs moin 1.9.2 (5595:090327e92862) packaged for Debian on Debian's test wiki http://wiki-debian-net.klabs.be/ 
  83 2010-02-28T18:46:19  * ThomasWaldmann does some windows testing for 1.9.2 release
  84 2010-02-28T18:47:23  <ThomasWaldmann> win2008srvr2/modwsgi/apache2 looked ok
  85 2010-02-28T18:54:20  * dreimark looks at cgi/fcgi/wsgi
  86 2010-02-28T18:57:02  <dreimark> franklin: do you know if etherpad is also included in debian?
  87 2010-02-28T19:00:17  <franklin> dreimark: It doesn't seems to be. It looks interesting though.
  88 2010-02-28T19:02:56  * dreimark xmlrpc to cgi works too
  89 2010-02-28T19:30:03  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: SystemAdmin in cgi
  90 2010-02-28T19:30:11  <dreimark> Unhandled Exception
  91 2010-02-28T19:31:28  <dreimark> known issue I think
  92 2010-02-28T19:31:34  <dreimark> CacheError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/srv/share/moin/underlay/pages/SystemAdmin/cache/text_htmlTIlTuZ.tmp'
  93 2010-02-28T19:32:54  <dreimark> yes, for some reason the cache was ownered by root
  94 2010-02-28T20:02:22  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/183962/
  95 2010-02-28T20:02:35  <dreimark> auth = [HTTPAuthMoin(autocreate=True)]
  96 2010-02-28T20:02:54  <dreimark> gives a traceback for maint cleancache
  97 2010-02-28T20:07:27  <ThomasWaldmann>   script request is not web request
  98 2010-02-28T20:10:15  <dreimark> the wiki with GivenAuth setup does not trace
  99 2010-02-28T20:11:16  * dreimark remembers that we talked about that already
 100 2010-02-28T20:15:08  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, moin/win2000 also works
 101 2010-02-28T20:19:59  * dreimark has problems to login to a wiki with given_auth
 102 2010-02-28T20:21:07  <dreimark> I get the login window but don't become login
 103 2010-02-28T20:22:55  <dreimark> ah - interesting what a wrong config can make all ...
 104 2010-02-28T20:32:56  <ronny> btw, you guys might want to apply http://paste.pocoo.org/show/183971/ - fixes a deprecation warning, and makes pep8 print all errors it finds
 105 2010-02-28T20:45:00  <dreimark> ronny: after 1.9.2 :)
 106 2010-02-28T20:46:45  <ronny> ok
 107 2010-02-28T21:45:57  <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: does the current package suggest mod-wsgi?
 108 2010-02-28T21:46:19  <ThomasWaldmann> and unsuggest mod-python? :)
 109 2010-02-28T22:20:15  <franklin> starting 1.9.2, it will recommed libapache2-wsi | http-cgi
 110 2010-02-28T22:20:36  <franklin> it will also suggest python-flup|libapache2-wsi
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 112 2010-02-28T23:41:28  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5596:6c06c83db7a4 1.9/docs/CHANGES: minor docs/CHANGES updates, add CVE number to 1.9.1 changes
 113 2010-02-28T23:49:09  <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5597:ced05deb11ae 1.9/MoinMoin/config/multiconfig.py: cfg.history_paging: fix grammar/remove performance warning (we don't do that at other places either)
 114 2010-02-28T23:57:30  * ThomasWaldmann uploads 1.9.2
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