1 2010-04-11T00:00:59 <_buck> ThomasWaldmann: Sorry but when was the first? Was it before I came in contact? If yeas can you tell me what it was?
2 2010-04-11T00:01:16 <dreimark> hehe
3 2010-04-11T00:01:18 <ThomasWaldmann> nothing happened yet
4 2010-04-11T00:01:47 <_buck> okay, confusing. You said second..
5 2010-04-11T00:02:05 <ThomasWaldmann> _buck: it was just about us having some task for the students to solve. we have one simple task, but we need also one more advanced.
6 2010-04-11T00:02:22 <_buck> ohh , k
7 2010-04-11T00:04:02 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: _buck: ValentinJaniaut: grab me at any time on IRC when you are fully awake and undisturbed enough to do first coding task, it'll take 30mins to do it
8 2010-04-11T00:04:40 <ThomasWaldmann> (first task is the rather simple one)
9 2010-04-11T00:05:08 <_buck> okay, I'll probably grab you tomorrow evening.
10 2010-04-11T00:06:22 * _buck must take a good night sleep for the task. :)
11 2010-04-11T00:06:25 *** _buck
12 2010-04-11T00:06:48 * dreimark .oO and this one is only 30mins
13 2010-04-11T00:18:08 <xorAxAx> ThomasWaldmann: i didnt understand that from reading the proposal
14 2010-04-11T00:19:59 <ThomasWaldmann> xorAxAx: that's just a fact :) maybe the student didn't know either, but if you rewrite something, you don't necessarily need to know all brokenness of old code beforehand.
15 2010-04-11T00:20:20 <ThomasWaldmann> it is good to know, though, to not repeat same faults
16 2010-04-11T04:36:12 *** diofeher
17 2010-04-11T05:16:10 <diofeher> goodnight all
18 2010-04-11T05:16:28 <diofeher> any1 here now?
19 2010-04-11T05:23:59 *** diofeher
20 2010-04-11T06:59:18 *** kursor
21 2010-04-11T10:19:39 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: I am going free to be free during the whole evening today, so I will recontact you for the coding task
22 2010-04-11T10:20:29 <ValentinJaniaut> -free
23 2010-04-11T10:24:53 <dreimark> ValentinJaniaut: you got a new question
24 2010-04-11T10:25:00 <ValentinJaniaut> dreimark: Yep I saw it
25 2010-04-11T10:25:05 <ValentinJaniaut> I am going to reply :)
26 2010-04-11T10:25:55 <ValentinJaniaut> dreimark: I got the notification by mail when I have comment on my proposal :)
27 2010-04-11T11:16:35 <ThomasWaldmann> re
28 2010-04-11T11:17:05 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i have half an hour now, so if anybody wants to do the 1st task, first come first serve :)
29 2010-04-11T11:33:51 *** eSyr
30 2010-04-11T11:42:41 *** kursor
31 2010-04-11T11:48:11 *** eSyr
32 2010-04-11T11:48:52 *** AshishG
33 2010-04-11T12:17:47 *** _buck
34 2010-04-11T12:18:36 <_buck> ThomasWaldmann: thr
35 2010-04-11T12:19:08 <ThomasWaldmann> _buck: wanna take it now?
36 2010-04-11T12:19:17 <_buck> ThomasWaldmann: Yes
37 2010-04-11T12:29:37 <ThomasWaldmann> anyone else wanting to do it now?
38 2010-04-11T13:37:09 *** DmitryAndreev
39 2010-04-11T13:37:19 <DmitryAndreev> hello
40 2010-04-11T13:49:04 *** eSyr[pda]
41 2010-04-11T13:52:38 *** eSyr[pda]
42 2010-04-11T14:01:01 <ThomasWaldmann> hi DmitryAndreev
43 2010-04-11T14:03:45 <franklin> Hi, I have written a manpage for the command 'moin' for Debian (http://paste.pocoo.org/show/200296/ ). A manpage os probably only useful for Linux/BSD distribution packages where "man moin" whould work, still are you interested?
44 2010-04-11T14:04:58 <franklin> (hte paste bin is the rendered version of the *roff version)
45 2010-04-11T14:08:20 *** eSyr[pda]
46 2010-04-11T14:10:35 <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: is there more on it than on the help page?
47 2010-04-11T14:10:56 <ThomasWaldmann> DmitryAndreev: time for some easy coding task (30 mins)?
48 2010-04-11T14:11:15 <DmitryAndreev> ThomasWaldmann, ok
49 2010-04-11T14:11:22 <ThomasWaldmann> -> query
50 2010-04-11T14:15:00 <franklin> Basically, no. (just a few examples and a pointer to the actual docuementation). The purpose is that people know where to look for help, even without running the program)
51 2010-04-11T14:15:45 <dreimark> the pointer may be a problem because moinmo.in always runs a recent version
52 2010-04-11T14:16:02 <dreimark> i mean a more recent version than the user may be
53 2010-04-11T14:17:45 <franklin> would it be possible that MoinMoin/version.py contains the base URL? like http://masterX19.moinmo.in
54 2010-04-11T14:19:37 <dreimark> hmm, and may be also a link in SystemInfo
55 2010-04-11T14:20:07 <ThomasWaldmann> the master wikis are not guaranteed to be there forever
56 2010-04-11T14:20:39 <ThomasWaldmann> so the only place that likely has correct information is the local help page
57 2010-04-11T14:21:07 <franklin> ThomasWaldmann: I know (the man page states "**like** http://moinmo.in/HelpOnMoinCommand")
58 2010-04-11T14:21:22 <dreimark> franklin: this is not the local
59 2010-04-11T14:21:29 <dreimark> this is the recent moin version
60 2010-04-11T14:21:55 <dreimark> it must be something like "read on your wiki"
61 2010-04-11T14:23:11 <franklin> At the risk of being picky, the local help pages aren't guaranteed to be up to date :-(
62 2010-04-11T14:23:45 <franklin> I agree I have to ellaborate that paragraph.
63 2010-04-11T14:24:49 <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: yeah, if the admin did an upgrade and forgot to upgrade syspages
64 2010-04-11T14:25:05 <franklin> yes
65 2010-04-11T14:25:13 <ThomasWaldmann> but that is admin's fault then :) the help pages we bundle should be best match.
66 2010-04-11T14:25:42 <dreimark> moin --config-dir=/etc/moin man HelpOnMoinCommand
67 2010-04-11T14:26:07 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: noone does that :)
68 2010-04-11T14:26:09 <dreimark> should not such a big problem, so you could read that page offline
69 2010-04-11T14:26:38 <ThomasWaldmann> and we already have --help btw
70 2010-04-11T14:26:46 <dreimark> right
71 2010-04-11T14:27:00 <dreimark> franklin: may be mention that
72 2010-04-11T14:27:23 <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: but try it out first :)
73 2010-04-11T14:27:41 *** eSyr[pda]
74 2010-04-11T14:28:14 <ThomasWaldmann> zenhase: is this just your irc client or are you really there? :)
75 2010-04-11T14:28:14 <dreimark> it is moin without any parameter and To obtain additonal help on a command use 'moin module subcommand --help'
76 2010-04-11T14:30:30 <franklin> not all modules supports --help, AFAIK
77 2010-04-11T14:39:09 <franklin> I was wrong: all the sub commands I have tested supports "moin foo bar --help".
78 2010-04-11T14:48:57 *** AshishG
79 2010-04-11T14:49:58 * _buck will be back after a tea.
80 2010-04-11T14:50:09 *** _buck
81 2010-04-11T14:55:11 *** diofeher
82 2010-04-11T15:00:23 <CIA-55> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 515:55ffbd41c42d extensions/htdocs/ (104 files in 19 dirs): svg-edit: updated to version r1502
83 2010-04-11T15:00:25 <CIA-55> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 516:2b7a77acc967 extensions/htdocs/svg-edit/editor/svg-editor.js: svg-edit: fix for loading from url added (id:523)
84 2010-04-11T15:00:26 <CIA-55> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 517:aed9bccfe159 extensions/htdocs/svg-edit/editor/svg-editor.js: svg-edit: saveHandler for moin-1.9
85 2010-04-11T15:00:33 <CIA-55> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 518:236d21d4b0b7 extensions/data/plugin/ (action/RecommendPage.py macro/ShortText.py): merged main
86 2010-04-11T15:01:23 *** eSyr[pda]
87 2010-04-11T15:04:26 *** kursor
88 2010-04-11T15:08:08 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: your realname is too long for irc :)
89 2010-04-11T15:08:22 <ThomasWaldmann> (14:55) -!- diofeher (Diógenes Augusto Fernandes Hermínio (www.diofehe) [~chatzilla@187.64.67.218] has joined #moin-dev
90 2010-04-11T15:08:27 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: hehe yes... 32 letters =p
91 2010-04-11T15:08:41 <diofeher> my nick is abbreviation
92 2010-04-11T15:08:42 <ThomasWaldmann> (see truncated web addr)
93 2010-04-11T15:09:12 <diofeher> your name is just Thomas Waldmann ?
94 2010-04-11T15:16:06 *** diofeher
95 2010-04-11T15:16:09 *** diofeher
96 2010-04-11T15:16:54 <diofeher> hey guys, i'm worried about the time to do plugin system design... i want to start a discussion at wiki... what is the best name to the page?
97 2010-04-11T15:17:11 *** diofeher
98 2010-04-11T15:17:58 *** diofeher
99 2010-04-11T15:20:50 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: no, i also have a "middle name", but it is usually not used
100 2010-04-11T15:21:27 <diofeher> understand... augusto is a middle name too, but I don't like it
101 2010-04-11T15:21:41 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: well, search what we already have
102 2010-04-11T15:22:22 <diofeher> yes, i have searched... but if i can add something, I use the page that already exists?
103 2010-04-11T15:22:44 <ThomasWaldmann> also, maybe have a look at zine and glashammer plugin system
104 2010-04-11T15:23:00 <ThomasWaldmann> that depends on whether it has something to do with that
105 2010-04-11T15:23:21 <ThomasWaldmann> if it is too old, too crappy, too different, maybe start a new page and just put some links
106 2010-04-11T15:23:44 <diofeher> ok, you answered my doubt, thanks =)
107 2010-04-11T15:27:29 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: as you see on the ideas page, there is the idea of using gh for some common stuff, as framework or library
108 2010-04-11T15:27:58 <diofeher> unrun, i saw
109 2010-04-11T15:28:38 <ThomasWaldmann> so, if you have some time left, you maybe want to reuse some code from there
110 2010-04-11T15:29:14 <ThomasWaldmann> the zine plugins are not yet included in gh, but main author was positive about the idea of putting that into gh
111 2010-04-11T15:30:04 <diofeher> mmm...
112 2010-04-11T15:30:15 <diofeher> sounds a good idea to put in moinmoin too =p
113 2010-04-11T15:30:48 <diofeher> i'm going to leave now, back in one hour! bye
114 2010-04-11T15:32:20 <CIA-55> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 519:f0e8c7be3b71 extensions/htdocs/svg-edit/CHANGES.current: svg-edit: CHANGES.current
115 2010-04-11T15:33:06 *** kursor
116 2010-04-11T15:33:11 <dreimark> diofeher: glashammer is also a channel on freenode
117 2010-04-11T15:35:26 <ThomasWaldmann> any more students wanting to do task1 now?
118 2010-04-11T15:39:38 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: in 20 minutes is it possible ?
119 2010-04-11T15:41:17 <ThomasWaldmann> might be, but better have 30
120 2010-04-11T15:41:46 <ThomasWaldmann> (you don't need to do it right now if you don't have time)
121 2010-04-11T15:41:56 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: no no I have much more time
122 2010-04-11T15:42:25 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: But I am just back from 40km bike time so I want to take a shower
123 2010-04-11T15:42:36 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: just I want to start in 20 minutes after a shower ^ ^
124 2010-04-11T15:42:43 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, so now+20mins, yes that is ok
125 2010-04-11T15:42:56 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: ok great
126 2010-04-11T16:04:23 <diofeher> dreimark: thanks, i'm there now =)
127 2010-04-11T16:04:36 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: what task?
128 2010-04-11T16:08:43 <ThomasWaldmann> we have 1 or 2 small coding tasks for the students
129 2010-04-11T16:09:39 <diofeher> wow, i have free time now
130 2010-04-11T16:11:47 <CIA-55> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 520:a21974d68624 extensions/data/plugin/action/SlideShow.py: action.SlideShow: added a simple release check, because this plugin requires 1.8
131 2010-04-11T16:12:03 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: ok I am ready
132 2010-04-11T16:12:16 * ValentinJaniaut is curious about what kind of coding task it can be ^ ^
133 2010-04-11T16:17:02 <dreimark> ValentinJaniaut: there may be a query for you
134 2010-04-11T16:17:22 <dreimark> if not then please be patient
135 2010-04-11T16:18:16 <ThomasWaldmann> he's working on the task :)
136 2010-04-11T16:19:37 <dreimark> :)
137 2010-04-11T16:20:06 *** diofeher
138 2010-04-11T16:35:10 *** diofeher
139 2010-04-11T16:35:54 <diofeher> oh man, gnome ambient broked here, right now ._.
140 2010-04-11T16:35:57 <diofeher> firefox can't stop reloading, chrominium too
141 2010-04-11T16:39:16 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: are you still here?
142 2010-04-11T16:49:51 *** diofeher
143 2010-04-11T16:50:08 *** diofeher
144 2010-04-11T16:51:04 *** diofeher_
145 2010-04-11T17:39:09 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: i sent my code for your e-mail
146 2010-04-11T17:39:17 <diofeher> s/for/to
147 2010-04-11T17:40:28 <zenhase> ThomasWaldmann: oh, seems i am really here. hadn't joined freenode for quite some time and needed to contact some people regarding CCC stuff
148 2010-04-11T17:40:59 <zenhase> well, i didn't really notice that i joined until your highlight
149 2010-04-11T17:45:21 <dreimark> zenhase: hi, btw. do you be interested at a python barcamp in cologne?
150 2010-04-11T17:45:56 <dreimark> http://wiki.python-forum.de/PythonBarCamp
151 2010-04-11T17:46:00 <xorAxAx> arrrr
152 2010-04-11T17:46:19 <dreimark> hmm?
153 2010-04-11T17:46:36 <xorAxAx> a pirate makes arrr :)
154 2010-04-11T17:46:43 <xorAxAx> also, it is "are you interested" :)
155 2010-04-11T17:46:43 <dreimark> hehe
156 2010-04-11T17:47:30 <dreimark> thx, sorry
157 2010-04-11T17:47:35 <zenhase> dreimark: uhm, i am quite busy now ... also i am involved in starting KApy, karlsruhe python user group
158 2010-04-11T17:49:08 <dreimark> karlsruhe is not far away ...
159 2010-04-11T17:52:09 <ei-grad> ThomasWaldmann: i am ready
160 2010-04-11T17:57:50 <ThomasWaldmann> zenhase: see the stuttgart user group page on wiki.python.de
161 2010-04-11T18:13:15 <franklin> ThomasWaldmann: I'll use your idea (i.e tell user to use "moin cmd sub-cmd --help"). Here's a small patch to provide "moin server standalone --help" information:
162 2010-04-11T18:13:20 <franklin> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/200427/
163 2010-04-11T18:13:22 <ThomasWaldmann> zenhase: how about KAPUT (karlsruhe Python User Treff/Talking/...)
164 2010-04-11T18:14:44 <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: 30?
165 2010-04-11T18:16:31 <franklin> what's wrong with 30?
166 2010-04-11T18:18:06 <ThomasWaldmann> the "see below" reads strange
167 2010-04-11T18:19:29 <franklin> This is present in all help page, because the list of sub-commands options are automatically append after the text.
168 2010-04-11T18:19:44 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, ok
169 2010-04-11T18:22:00 <CIA-55> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5655:115278a9a95f 1.9/MoinMoin/script/server/standalone.py: added standalone server --help text (thanks to franklin)
170 2010-04-11T18:22:02 <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: ^^
171 2010-04-11T18:22:11 <franklin> thanks
172 2010-04-11T18:25:10 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: ping me when you have 30 mins time for an easy coding test
173 2010-04-11T18:26:03 <ei-grad> ThomasWaldmann: ping
174 2010-04-11T18:26:33 <ThomasWaldmann> :)
175 2010-04-11T18:27:35 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: see query
176 2010-04-11T18:36:30 <franklin> "moin migration data" didn't have --help notes too (it's the last one). Here's a draft http://paste.pocoo.org/show/200439/
177 2010-04-11T18:36:59 <franklin> I am not completely happy with the note regarding docs/UPDATE.html, feel free to improve it.
178 2010-04-11T18:39:14 <ThomasWaldmann> sounds OK
179 2010-04-11T18:40:53 <dreimark> currently it doesn't mostly not matter to enter a --wiki-url= if you don't have a farmsetup
180 2010-04-11T18:42:21 <TheSheep> doesn't not?
181 2010-04-11T18:42:44 <TheSheep> does it mean it does?
182 2010-04-11T18:46:34 <franklin> I agree that it's fine for standard single instances wiki. We could state that: --wiki-url is not needed for single wiki, unless you modified wikis=... in farmconfig.py
183 2010-04-11T18:50:40 <ThomasWaldmann> you can also just leave it as is
184 2010-04-11T18:50:52 <ThomasWaldmann> as long as the url is correct, it'll work in any case
185 2010-04-11T18:51:28 <dreimark> agreed as long all know that there are wikis without a farmsetup
186 2010-04-11T18:52:55 <dreimark> (with ThomasWaldmann)
187 2010-04-11T18:54:24 <franklin> Both options are fine for me.
188 2010-04-11T18:55:36 <CIA-55> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 5656:c7dd42405e5a 1.9/MoinMoin/script/migration/data.py: added moin migration --help text (thanks to franklin)
189 2010-04-11T19:08:35 *** franklin
190 2010-04-11T19:13:55 *** eSyr[pda]
191 2010-04-11T19:35:13 *** kursor
192 2010-04-11T19:46:20 *** _buck
193 2010-04-11T19:48:31 <diofeher> hey folks, one doubt
194 2010-04-11T19:48:31 <diofeher> why do you use iso-8859-1 instead of utf-8?
195 2010-04-11T19:53:43 <ThomasWaldmann> most stuff is ascii anyway
196 2010-04-11T19:55:35 <diofeher> utf-8 covers more characters, no?
197 2010-04-11T19:56:10 <eSyr> diofeher, we prefer to use ascii in code.
198 2010-04-11T19:56:16 <ThomasWaldmann> historically, systems had usually iso-8859-1 charset
199 2010-04-11T19:56:25 <ThomasWaldmann> and some had problems with multibyte stuff
200 2010-04-11T19:56:44 <ThomasWaldmann> but meanwhile we could also specify either ascii or utf-8
201 2010-04-11T19:56:50 <eSyr> diofeher, but for historical reasons, there are few comment string with latin-1 characters in 8859-1 (mostly author names in comments)
202 2010-04-11T19:57:11 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, Jürgen espescially :)
203 2010-04-11T19:57:24 <eSyr> ahha :)
204 2010-04-11T19:58:13 <diofeher> oh nice, thanks for the explanation =D
205 2010-04-11T19:59:17 <ThomasWaldmann> moin was also iso-8859-1 some years ago
206 2010-04-11T19:59:47 <ThomasWaldmann> but then it was refactored to be all unicode internally and use utf-8 as standard encoding
207 2010-04-11T20:00:27 <ThomasWaldmann> (I mean the wiki application and wiki contents, emitted html etc.)
208 2010-04-11T20:12:27 *** AshishG
209 2010-04-11T20:24:17 *** franklin
210 2010-04-11T20:37:23 <diofeher> i'm leaving now... goodbye!
211 2010-04-11T20:37:27 *** diofeher
212 2010-04-11T20:41:16 <_buck> Hey I have an assignment in which I need to steal cookies, and do session hijacking. Ohh, Do we discuss these things here? :|
213 2010-04-11T20:41:38 <eSyr> steal cookies, hehe.
214 2010-04-11T20:41:48 <eSyr> join the dark side, we have cookies!
215 2010-04-11T20:41:53 <ValentinJaniaut> eSyr: miam miam ^ ^
216 2010-04-11T20:42:31 <_buck> yaa so we surely discuss could discuss. Can somebody suggest a way to do it.
217 2010-04-11T20:45:55 <eSyr> _buck, usually it's done via iframes/js.
218 2010-04-11T20:46:14 <eSyr> and nearly all such ways are browser-specific.
219 2010-04-11T20:46:44 <_buck> ok and what if I sniff the cookie , suppose I am on the network of server and its legitimate client.
220 2010-04-11T20:46:55 <_buck> could that work?
221 2010-04-11T20:48:21 <eSyr> _buck, you mean you're not on server or client's side?
222 2010-04-11T20:48:56 <dreimark> in which contents?
223 2010-04-11T20:49:21 <_buck> Ok can I post my assg here
224 2010-04-11T20:49:26 *** franklin_
225 2010-04-11T20:49:58 <dreimark> if you want it be logged :)
226 2010-04-11T20:50:19 <_buck> You won't tell anybody here, will you? :)
227 2010-04-11T20:50:30 <dreimark> _buck: it is public logged
228 2010-04-11T20:50:34 <dreimark> everyone can read
229 2010-04-11T20:50:42 <dreimark> see topic
230 2010-04-11T20:50:45 <_buck> ok..
231 2010-04-11T20:51:06 <_buck> Still help from good guys could be taken.
232 2010-04-11T20:51:08 <_buck> Create a web portal which will use a login ID and password to authenticate users. The portal will set a cookie in the user's browser to allow continued authentication. The data that is stored by the portal can be accessed via SQL statements. The database contains user names, passwords, salaries, title, job descriptions, and confidential personal information like bank account numbers and pin numbers. There can be two types of users in the portal: secure and
233 2010-04-11T20:51:08 <_buck> public. Public users can access: usernames, titles, job descriptions, and user names. Secure users can also access: passwords, salaries, bank account numbers and pin numbers. The same information should be available in SQL tables as well as files on the portal.
234 2010-04-11T20:51:08 <_buck> E.g., passwords must be available in the passwords-secret.txt file.
235 2010-04-11T20:51:09 <_buck> Demonstrate the following attacks on this portal.
236 2010-04-11T20:51:11 <_buck> UG-3&4 Students
237 2010-04-11T20:51:13 <_buck> Cross-site request forgery
238 2010-04-11T20:51:16 <_buck> Show that the cookie can be stolen and users can inject false requests. The cookie should be stolen by you and stored in your browser and you should be able to access the original users' resources by using the cookie.
239 2010-04-11T20:51:34 <_buck> My task is what set form UG-3&4 Students
240 2010-04-11T20:52:34 *** franklin
241 2010-04-11T20:55:31 * dreimark interesting that you train that, but the channel topic is about moin development
242 2010-04-11T20:56:12 <dreimark> at least you should have seen that, also you should have decided to use an other channel
243 2010-04-11T20:56:19 <dreimark> and invite people to help you
244 2010-04-11T20:56:34 <_buck> sorry should not have asked it in first place.
245 2010-04-11T20:56:44 <_buck> Will do it now.
246 2010-04-11T20:57:17 <_buck> fellas anyone with ideas plz join #csrf
247 2010-04-11T20:57:23 <dreimark> and it is also quite long for irc, thats why we mention to use a pastebin
248 2010-04-11T21:00:56 <zenhase> ThomasWaldmann: this kind of collides with another idea we already had at entropia http://entropia.de/wiki/KABUT
249 2010-04-11T21:10:06 *** kursor
250 2010-04-11T21:11:43 <ThomasWaldmann> zenhase: ah X), but kaput is better match
251 2010-04-11T21:13:19 <dreimark> hehe
252 2010-04-11T21:18:47 <zenhase> ThomasWaldmann: we also talked about KAPUT, but came to the conclusion it would be more fitting for the perl users
253 2010-04-11T21:21:31 * dreimark scans tom. a postcard - input - output - putt kaputt (can't remember its in my office)
254 2010-04-11T21:23:24 <zenhase> ThomasWaldmann: KAzisch was also an idea ;)
255 2010-04-11T21:23:40 <dreimark> kit is occupied
256 2010-04-11T21:24:02 <zenhase> kit is the karlsruhe institute of technology
257 2010-04-11T21:24:08 <dreimark> i know
258 2010-04-11T21:24:17 <zenhase> i hate it :/
259 2010-04-11T21:25:00 <dreimark> i have currently no opinion to the jara aquivalent
260 2010-04-11T21:25:21 <dreimark> besides the buildings they develop
261 2010-04-11T22:15:32 <ValentinJaniaut> gn
262 2010-04-11T22:19:29 <dreimark> night ValentinJaniaut
263 2010-04-11T22:37:29 <AshishG> hello all!
264 2010-04-11T22:38:28 * AshishG was busy all day with assignments
265 2010-04-11T22:41:01 <AshishG> dreimark: are you there?
266 2010-04-11T22:46:23 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
267 2010-04-11T22:46:26 <dreimark> AshishG: yes
268 2010-04-11T22:48:46 <AshishG> i was wondering if i could ask you guys about how is higher education in Germany?
269 2010-04-11T22:50:38 <AshishG> i was wondering about prospects of applying for a masters in computer science and related fields
270 2010-04-11T22:57:51 * AshishG guess it's pretty late and everyone needs to wrap up their day
271 2010-04-11T23:05:34 <xorAxAx> AshishG: paderborn has an english master's program
272 2010-04-11T23:06:49 <AshishG> i see. and how popular are computer science program at paderborn?
273 2010-04-11T23:07:33 * AshishG is curious because he remembers a German counsellar visting his campus and telling him how industry and education is not very different back home in his country
274 2010-04-11T23:11:14 * _buck says gn all.
275 2010-04-11T23:11:15 *** _buck
276 2010-04-11T23:13:35 <dreimark> AshishG: do you have done the test with ThomasWaldmann already?
277 2010-04-11T23:13:56 <AshishG> which test?
278 2010-04-11T23:14:09 <dreimark> ping ThomasWaldmann
279 2010-04-11T23:15:26 <dreimark> AshishG: a simple coding test
280 2010-04-11T23:15:40 <AshishG> dreimark: pinged
281 2010-04-11T23:16:03 <xorAxAx> AshishG: it is one of the finest CS programs in germany
282 2010-04-11T23:58:05 <AshishG> dreimark: ThomasWaldmann seems busy/away. i'll have to sleep now, it's 3:27 AM here, i've left him a message
283 2010-04-11T23:58:24 <dreimark> ok
284 2010-04-11T23:58:54 <AshishG> dreimark: gn :)
285 2010-04-11T23:58:58 <dreimark> gn
286 2010-04-11T23:59:11 *** AshishG
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