1 2010-04-15T00:32:52 <xorAxAx> we should use http://code.google.com/p/skipfish/ on moinmoin
2 2010-04-15T00:59:55 <dreimark> re
3 2010-04-15T01:46:43 <AshishG> xorAxAx: hi! gsoc has some time before results come and then things start, i was wondering if i could start implementing the maps idea (if ppl want the maps markup, or any of the three things i mention on my moin profile under "Own Ideas"). no one else would have applied for them (nor have i, ironically) so there shouldn't be any kind of disputes.
4 2010-04-15T01:46:58 <AshishG> xorAxAx: and of course under your mentorship
5 2010-04-15T01:48:17 <xorAxAx> AshishG: yes, you can try write a small macro for it
6 2010-04-15T01:49:39 <AshishG> xorAxAx: we start tomorrow then?
7 2010-04-15T01:50:01 <xorAxAx> how about on monday? then i have more time
8 2010-04-15T01:50:12 <xorAxAx> but you can use this channel for questions in any case
9 2010-04-15T01:52:12 <AshishG> monday? hmm... i'll start somewhere tomorrow and ping you accordingly and if i get stuck we'll wait for monday
10 2010-04-15T01:53:36 <AshishG> xorAxAx: how does that sound?
11 2010-04-15T01:54:00 <xorAxAx> yeah
12 2010-04-15T01:54:43 <AshishG> yep. so i'll sleep now, will talk to you tomorrow. gnite :)
13 2010-04-15T02:08:18 *** AshishG
14 2010-04-15T02:19:36 *** diofeher
15 2010-04-15T03:05:27 *** ronny
16 2010-04-15T03:17:44 *** diofeher
17 2010-04-15T03:29:20 *** diofeher
18 2010-04-15T05:28:06 *** diofeher
19 2010-04-15T07:06:43 *** DmitryAndreev
20 2010-04-15T08:15:56 *** _buck
21 2010-04-15T08:16:10 * _buck says moin.
22 2010-04-15T08:57:27 <dreimark> moin
23 2010-04-15T09:48:59 *** _buck
24 2010-04-15T10:14:06 *** _buck
25 2010-04-15T10:14:53 *** _buck
26 2010-04-15T10:22:19 *** _buck
27 2010-04-15T10:39:33 *** JosefMeier
28 2010-04-15T10:39:40 <JosefMeier> MoinMoin
29 2010-04-15T10:40:17 <JosefMeier> I have a solution for image maps to work both in wikifarms and standalone wikiserver
30 2010-04-15T10:42:26 <JosefMeier> I like to document it. What's the right place for that: patch or feature request?
31 2010-04-15T10:49:25 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
32 2010-04-15T10:50:03 <ThomasWaldmann> JosefMeier: doesn't matter much
33 2010-04-15T10:52:36 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: ValentinJaniaut: (and all the other SOCers): contact me here in the next days when you have 2h of time for task2.
34 2010-04-15T12:01:43 <JosefMeier> FeatureRequests/BetterImageMapLinksForAnyWikiDraw
35 2010-04-15T12:02:38 *** tl0-0128
36 2010-04-15T12:20:24 *** JosefMeier
37 2010-04-15T13:03:52 <ei-grad> ThomasWaldmann: i'm ready
38 2010-04-15T13:06:06 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, hi ei-grad
39 2010-04-15T13:06:11 <ei-grad> hi
40 2010-04-15T13:06:46 <dreimark> moin
41 2010-04-15T13:15:31 <ValentinJaniaut> ThomasWaldmann: I am busy until Saturday with an exam in Paris, but I will be completely free Sunday and monday, so just tell me when is the most convenient time for you
42 2010-04-15T13:20:19 <ThomasWaldmann> ValentinJaniaut: ok, that is fine. saturday afternoon or evening is likely a good time.
43 2010-04-15T13:37:07 *** diofeher
44 2010-04-15T14:37:27 *** mikema
45 2010-04-15T14:38:01 *** mikema
46 2010-04-15T15:38:06 <diofeher> moin moin!
47 2010-04-15T15:38:13 <diofeher> any news about gsoc?
48 2010-04-15T15:40:16 <dreimark> diofeher
49 2010-04-15T15:40:47 <dreimark> diofeher: contact ThomasWaldmann in the next days when you have 2h of time for task2
50 2010-04-15T15:41:03 <diofeher> dreimark: hi!
51 2010-04-15T15:41:09 <diofeher> 2hours? niiice :D
52 2010-04-15T15:41:20 <dreimark> a bit more fun
53 2010-04-15T15:41:23 <diofeher> ok, i think i will contact him tonight
54 2010-04-15T15:42:09 <diofeher> dreimark: hey, what time is it in germany now?
55 2010-04-15T15:43:48 <dreimark> currently it is 3:43 pm
56 2010-04-15T15:43:54 <dreimark> we are at UTC+2
57 2010-04-15T15:45:17 <diofeher> humm... 5 hours of diff
58 2010-04-15T15:45:25 <diofeher> it's 10:43 pm here
59 2010-04-15T15:45:52 <dreimark> pm = past midday ?
60 2010-04-15T15:45:57 <diofeher> ops
61 2010-04-15T15:45:59 <diofeher> am
62 2010-04-15T15:46:01 <diofeher> sorry
63 2010-04-15T15:46:24 <diofeher> because i spend much time in my computer in night
64 2010-04-15T15:46:43 <dreimark> hehe
65 2010-04-15T15:47:49 <diofeher> in the hour that I turn on my computer (9pm) it's 2am there
66 2010-04-15T15:47:51 <diofeher> =p
67 2010-04-15T15:52:09 *** ronny
68 2010-04-15T15:53:58 *** ronny
69 2010-04-15T16:39:00 <dreimark> pngmeta extracts metadata from PNG images and
70 2010-04-15T16:39:00 <dreimark> displays them as either HTML, SOIF, RDF/XML or simple fields and
71 2010-04-15T16:39:02 <dreimark> values.
72 2010-04-15T16:39:12 <dreimark> may be good for another filter for xapian
73 2010-04-15T16:56:16 <diofeher> leaving now goodbye dreimark
74 2010-04-15T16:56:23 <dreimark> cu diofeher
75 2010-04-15T16:56:40 *** diofeher
76 2010-04-15T17:30:53 <dreimark> bbl
77 2010-04-15T17:37:15 *** DmitryAndreev
78 2010-04-15T20:09:11 <ThomasWaldmann> re
79 2010-04-15T20:19:03 *** dennda
80 2010-04-15T20:19:17 <dennda> moin
81 2010-04-15T20:19:23 <dennda> any storage proposals? :)
82 2010-04-15T20:20:02 <ThomasWaldmann> one, about indexing etc.
83 2010-04-15T20:20:18 <dennda> hmk
84 2010-04-15T20:20:25 <dennda> other 2.0 stuff?
85 2010-04-15T20:20:55 <ThomasWaldmann> it's mostly about moin2
86 2010-04-15T20:21:00 <dennda> nice
87 2010-04-15T20:21:04 <ThomasWaldmann> dom-converters
88 2010-04-15T20:21:08 <ThomasWaldmann> theme
89 2010-04-15T20:21:14 <dennda> theme++
90 2010-04-15T20:21:42 *** _buck
91 2010-04-15T20:21:47 <_buck> moin
92 2010-04-15T20:21:53 <ThomasWaldmann> some noone could optimize the sqla backend :)
93 2010-04-15T20:21:59 <ThomasWaldmann> somehow ...
94 2010-04-15T20:22:15 * _buck wonders if there is any news for the students.
95 2010-04-15T20:22:32 * dennda doesn't know noone
96 2010-04-15T20:24:42 <dennda> if you can find someone other than me for that I would not be mad at you (little time + shift of interest)
97 2010-04-15T20:24:52 <dennda> but is anybody working on any of my stuff?
98 2010-04-15T20:25:20 <ThomasWaldmann> well, the indexing is for metadata, thus somehow backend oriented
99 2010-04-15T20:26:26 <dennda> ok
100 2010-04-15T20:27:30 <ThomasWaldmann> and we maybe will use sqlalchemy to do that, but it is not related to sqla backend only
101 2010-04-15T20:27:41 <dennda> I will check the list of accepted proposals then
102 2010-04-15T20:27:58 <dennda> ok
103 2010-04-15T20:28:15 <dennda> but then you have somebody else with experience in sqla
104 2010-04-15T20:28:35 <dennda> I suggest giving that enough time, sqla ain't that trivial
105 2010-04-15T20:28:36 <ThomasWaldmann> well, as much as you had I guess :)
106 2010-04-15T20:29:08 <dennda> you mean 1 week? :)
107 2010-04-15T20:30:43 <ThomasWaldmann> i meant experience
108 2010-04-15T20:31:56 <dennda> i'm not sure if that is a good or a bad thing
109 2010-04-15T20:32:34 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess we won't use orm for metadata index, so it should be less magic
110 2010-04-15T20:33:39 <dennda> yeah I just want to raise awareness that I didn't find it as easy as I thought it would have been
111 2010-04-15T20:35:12 <dennda> anyways i'm around if someone has a specific question
112 2010-04-15T20:40:26 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah, thanks
113 2010-04-15T20:47:49 *** TheSheep
114 2010-04-15T20:48:15 *** TheSheep
115 2010-04-15T20:58:17 <ThomasWaldmann> anyone ready for task2? takes 2h.
116 2010-04-15T21:03:15 <dennda> do you still do the coding task 1 + task 2 + interview?
117 2010-04-15T21:03:47 *** AshishG
118 2010-04-15T21:04:07 <ThomasWaldmann> no interview yet
119 2010-04-15T21:05:02 <AshishG> ThomasWaldmann: interview?
120 2010-04-15T21:05:22 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe not at all this time
121 2010-04-15T21:05:42 <AshishG> oh! are we that good? ;)
122 2010-04-15T21:05:54 <ThomasWaldmann> no :P
123 2010-04-15T21:05:55 <TheSheep> no, we are that bad
124 2010-04-15T21:06:48 <AshishG> hehe. but what about task2?
125 2010-04-15T21:07:10 <TheSheep> you can do it now if you have about 2h of time
126 2010-04-15T21:07:19 <ThomasWaldmann> take it any time you have 2h of undisturbed time
127 2010-04-15T21:08:06 <AshishG> ohhh
128 2010-04-15T21:08:14 <AshishG> not 2 hrs now
129 2010-04-15T21:08:24 <AshishG> i'll ping when asap
130 2010-04-15T21:08:29 <AshishG> brb
131 2010-04-15T21:12:25 <AshishG> 2h is a loooong test
132 2010-04-15T21:13:38 <ei-grad> AshishG: but it's interesting)
133 2010-04-15T21:13:42 <ThomasWaldmann> it is something that is somehow practically usable this time.
134 2010-04-15T21:14:47 <AshishG> hmm... sounds interesting
135 2010-04-15T21:15:02 <_buck> I was exploring MoinMoin usage of wsgi framework. I get that each app in WSGI follows MVC . Now, MoinMoin has jinja (V), various backends(C) but how does moin's controller functions. Please enlighten.
136 2010-04-15T21:15:18 <_buck> sorry *backends(M)
137 2010-04-15T21:16:25 <ThomasWaldmann> moin has been quite mixing all that stuff together.
138 2010-04-15T21:16:37 <ThomasWaldmann> one goal is to improve that :)
139 2010-04-15T21:17:04 <_buck> okay so where is controller written in moin.
140 2010-04-15T21:17:09 <dennda> the more appropriate model would be MTV (inspired by django)
141 2010-04-15T21:17:34 <_buck> ya MTV .
142 2010-04-15T21:17:51 <dennda> where Model = backend, template = jinja templates, view = functions that populate the templates with content from the model
143 2010-04-15T21:20:12 <_buck> ok I would like to know where are the view functions written for moinmoin.
144 2010-04-15T21:20:59 <dennda> guess that would be the actions
145 2010-04-15T21:21:01 <dennda> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-storage/file/3fd14d19fe0f/MoinMoin/action
146 2010-04-15T21:21:12 <_buck> thanks .
147 2010-04-15T21:29:49 <_buck> ThomasWaldmann: Can I ask what's the last date before which mentors have to submit reviews?
148 2010-04-15T21:31:48 <ThomasWaldmann> see faq timeline entry
149 2010-04-15T21:32:10 <_buck> okay thanks.
150 2010-04-15T21:34:50 * _buck says gn.
151 2010-04-15T21:35:00 <ThomasWaldmann> gn _buck
152 2010-04-15T21:35:49 *** _buck
153 2010-04-15T21:59:21 *** diofeher
154 2010-04-15T22:28:19 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: let's do the task2 in a while?
155 2010-04-15T22:28:25 <diofeher> as possible to you?
156 2010-04-15T22:28:32 <diofeher> s/as/is
157 2010-04-15T22:39:04 <dreimark> re
158 2010-04-15T22:39:44 <diofeher> hey dreimark =)
159 2010-04-15T22:40:36 *** diofeher
160 2010-04-15T22:47:42 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm
161 2010-04-15T22:49:52 <dreimark> diofeher__away: do you be still here ?
162 2010-04-15T22:51:28 <diofeher__away> hey guys, i will be back later
163 2010-04-15T22:51:34 <diofeher__away> 20 minutes
164 2010-04-15T22:53:35 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^
165 2010-04-15T22:56:29 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher__away: we can start in 20 mins, but then you have to keep an eye on your submission time yourself, as I might be sleeping when 2h have passed
166 2010-04-15T23:15:56 <diofeher__away> ThomasWaldmann: ok thomas
167 2010-04-15T23:15:58 <diofeher__away> back
168 2010-04-15T23:16:00 *** diofeher__away
169 2010-04-15T23:24:38 <dreimark> gn
170 2010-04-15T23:25:22 <diofeher> dreimark: gn
171 2010-04-15T23:32:23 <ei-grad> a problem with unicode in python... http://dpaste.org/dwag/ what is wrong there?
172 2010-04-15T23:41:53 <zenhase> ei-grad: before output sys.err.write wants to convert from unicode to a string representation
173 2010-04-15T23:42:19 <zenhase> ei-grad: and standard encoding is usually ascii, which does not know about those characters you have there
174 2010-04-15T23:42:32 <zenhase> resulting in an encoding-error on output
175 2010-04-15T23:43:00 <zenhase> you can fix it, if you do a s.encode('utf-8') beforehand
176 2010-04-15T23:43:11 <zenhase> then it will be written in utf8 instead of ascii
177 2010-04-15T23:47:36 <zenhase> in case you wonder, the encoding on top of the file only determines source-input
178 2010-04-15T23:47:55 <ei-grad> zenhase: thanks) and also i can use sys.setappdefaultencoding?
179 2010-04-15T23:48:03 <zenhase> instead of encoding the u''-strings by hand with s.encode you can also set a default encoding
180 2010-04-15T23:48:11 <zenhase> yes :)
181 2010-04-15T23:48:25 <zenhase> i guess it was called something else tho
