1 2010-05-05T02:17:31 *** diofeher
2 2010-05-05T02:20:57 <diofeher> good night! i found an error trying to run ./wikiserver.py
3 2010-05-05T02:21:15 <diofeher> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/209971/
4 2010-05-05T02:22:55 <diofeher> brb
5 2010-05-05T03:30:03 *** diofeher
6 2010-05-05T05:46:38 *** kursor
7 2010-05-05T06:04:01 *** kursor
8 2010-05-05T09:04:30 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
9 2010-05-05T10:46:08 *** franklin
10 2010-05-05T10:46:09 *** CIA-55
11 2010-05-05T10:47:23 *** franklin
12 2010-05-05T10:47:23 *** CIA-55
13 2010-05-05T10:47:34 *** franklin
14 2010-05-05T10:47:37 *** franklin
15 2010-05-05T13:03:03 *** ei-grad
16 2010-05-05T13:09:44 *** ei-grad
17 2010-05-05T14:48:23 <dreimark> moin
18 2010-05-05T14:48:26 <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/HeadingPreviewRendered
19 2010-05-05T14:49:18 <dreimark> is there a better idea to fix this ?
20 2010-05-05T15:16:49 *** DmitryAndreev
21 2010-05-05T15:29:38 *** DmitryAndreev
22 2010-05-05T15:39:05 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: the heading IDs might be used as anchor targets, so having them as nice as they get is preferable
23 2010-05-05T15:39:19 *** diofeher
24 2010-05-05T15:39:32 <diofeher> moin!
25 2010-05-05T15:39:33 <ThomasWaldmann> i think we can just use div#preview for the editor preview to solve that
26 2010-05-05T15:39:47 <ThomasWaldmann> (or rather: for its css)
27 2010-05-05T15:39:54 <ThomasWaldmann> hi diofeher
28 2010-05-05T15:40:01 <diofeher> hi thomas
29 2010-05-05T15:40:22 <diofeher> i think anyone forget to discomment a line in moin :P
30 2010-05-05T15:41:05 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: search is rather broken in moin2. did that happen on startup or when searching?
31 2010-05-05T15:41:26 <diofeher> only when searching
32 2010-05-05T15:41:39 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, then don't search :)
33 2010-05-05T15:41:42 <diofeher> haha ok
34 2010-05-05T15:41:48 <ThomasWaldmann> or fix it :)
35 2010-05-05T15:41:52 <diofeher> i was trying to setup here
36 2010-05-05T15:41:56 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: yes, i would try
37 2010-05-05T15:42:18 <diofeher> i asked here yesterday to know if were really an error
38 2010-05-05T15:42:22 <ThomasWaldmann> but only do it if you get bored, fixing search is not part of your project
39 2010-05-05T15:42:34 <diofeher> yes...
40 2010-05-05T15:42:48 <diofeher> rather than, i will do a zelda theme right now
41 2010-05-05T15:54:43 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: we need div#version and so on too
42 2010-05-05T15:57:23 <diofeher> guys, where i change to switch my theme? i put static files and "europython" in themes dir
43 2010-05-05T15:59:18 <ThomasWaldmann> note that code goes to data/plugin/theme/
44 2010-05-05T15:59:51 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: that's one of the things why we would like a new plugin system :)
45 2010-05-05T16:00:18 <ThomasWaldmann> with one folder containing all one needs for some plugin
46 2010-05-05T16:00:37 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: haha now i'm understanding the problems
47 2010-05-05T16:00:45 <diofeher> yes, it would be much better
48 2010-05-05T16:02:46 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: we don't have a folder named data... have to create, right?
49 2010-05-05T16:04:22 <ThomasWaldmann> what do you use for experimenting? moin/2.0-dev?
50 2010-05-05T16:04:56 <ThomasWaldmann> wiki/data maybe?
51 2010-05-05T16:05:32 <diofeher> yes, using 2.0-dev
52 2010-05-05T16:19:01 <diofeher> tried all, but didn't worked... still gettin modernized theme "GET /moin_static200/modernized/css/projection.css HTTP/1.1" 304 -
53 2010-05-05T16:19:05 <ThomasWaldmann> wiki/data/plugin
54 2010-05-05T16:19:23 <ThomasWaldmann> and you need to either set it as theme_default or log in and change it in user settings
55 2010-05-05T16:20:20 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.newmaconline.com/icostume-the-height-of-apple-fashion_2010-05-04/ lol
56 2010-05-05T16:22:41 <diofeher> hahahaahahahah wtf
57 2010-05-05T16:22:53 <ThomasWaldmann> insanity taking its toll :D
58 2010-05-05T16:28:55 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: now worked, tks
59 2010-05-05T16:29:51 <ThomasWaldmann> TheSheep: diofeher: is it just my gut feeling or should we rewrite all css from scratch?
60 2010-05-05T16:30:32 <ThomasWaldmann> (starting from nothing I mean and just having a glance now and then)
61 2010-05-05T16:30:50 <TheSheep> we probably should rewrite all html too
62 2010-05-05T16:31:00 <diofeher> oh my god :P
63 2010-05-05T16:31:14 <TheSheep> we will have to anyways, if we want to use templates
64 2010-05-05T16:31:15 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
65 2010-05-05T16:31:23 <TheSheep> and then the old css won't fit
66 2010-05-05T16:33:37 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: btw, all those "implementation ideas" we added recently - was it clear enough?
67 2010-05-05T16:34:15 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, some recent stats showed ie6 at 16% still (IIRC)
68 2010-05-05T16:34:24 <TheSheep> boo
69 2010-05-05T16:34:31 <TheSheep> die ie6, die already
70 2010-05-05T16:34:50 <diofeher> what about broke ie6 support?
71 2010-05-05T16:34:52 <diofeher> :D
72 2010-05-05T16:35:36 <ThomasWaldmann> otoh, that percentage is NOW
73 2010-05-05T16:35:54 <ThomasWaldmann> and moin2 is not going to be usable too soon
74 2010-05-05T16:36:08 <ThomasWaldmann> so for that matter, time is working for us
75 2010-05-05T16:37:01 <diofeher> yes... i will start here my first theme :)
76 2010-05-05T16:37:17 <ThomasWaldmann> zelda like in that game?
77 2010-05-05T16:37:58 *** kursor
78 2010-05-05T16:38:00 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: (16:33) < ThomasWal> diofeher: btw, all those "implementation ideas" we added recently - was it clear enough?
79 2010-05-05T16:38:33 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: yes
80 2010-05-05T16:38:43 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
81 2010-05-05T16:38:43 <diofeher> wait, let me see
82 2010-05-05T16:38:59 <diofeher> i'm a zelda fan
83 2010-05-05T16:39:41 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe there should be some idea about how to structure css into files, how to do media support, how to do colouring, etc.
84 2010-05-05T16:40:17 <ThomasWaldmann> and how to maybe do content style vs. theme style
85 2010-05-05T16:40:18 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: yes, for now it's clear, but when i start to implement, will appear doubts
86 2010-05-05T16:40:28 <diofeher> :P
87 2010-05-05T16:40:35 <ThomasWaldmann> sure
88 2010-05-05T16:40:54 <TheSheep> diofeher: I have an ocarina! :D
89 2010-05-05T16:41:25 <diofeher> TheSheep: oh man, really? *-*
90 2010-05-05T16:41:36 *** valeuf
91 2010-05-05T16:41:38 <ThomasWaldmann> After being featured in the Nintendo Legend of Zelda games, the ocarina attracted a marked increase in interest, and a dramatic rise in sales.[6][7]
92 2010-05-05T16:42:13 <ThomasWaldmann> a clever plot of the ocarina manufacturers :D
93 2010-05-05T16:42:27 <TheSheep> although mine are the 'british pendant' kind, not the 'sweet potato' kind like in the game
94 2010-05-05T16:42:50 <TheSheep> I shold get one sweet potato soon though
95 2010-05-05T16:43:26 <diofeher> TheSheep: you know how to play?
96 2010-05-05T16:43:40 <TheSheep> diofeher: of course, why would I have them otherwise? :P
97 2010-05-05T16:44:32 <TheSheep> diofeher: they are very easy to learn
98 2010-05-05T16:44:56 <diofeher> heheh
99 2010-05-05T16:45:11 <diofeher> i'm going to buy one asap
100 2010-05-05T16:45:28 <TheSheep> just avoid the 'peru' ones
101 2010-05-05T16:45:33 <TheSheep> they are useless
102 2010-05-05T16:49:18 <diofeher> haha ok
103 2010-05-05T16:49:53 <TheSheep> anyways, you got that theme working?
104 2010-05-05T16:49:58 *** valeuf
105 2010-05-05T16:51:13 <diofeher> TheSheep: yes! i'm doing mine with a green background :D
106 2010-05-05T16:56:53 <diofeher> haha the name of miss brazil-portugal is "Joseane Pyton" :P
107 2010-05-05T16:58:14 <TheSheep> almost
108 2010-05-05T16:58:36 <TheSheep> jus one letter would make her so much more attractive
109 2010-05-05T17:00:51 <diofeher> hahaha yes
110 2010-05-05T17:11:09 <diofeher> i'm going to my classes now... bye
111 2010-05-05T17:11:17 *** diofeher
112 2010-05-05T17:59:00 *** mikema
113 2010-05-05T18:11:24 *** mikema
114 2010-05-05T18:26:25 *** kursor
115 2010-05-05T18:38:43 *** valeuf
116 2010-05-05T18:42:37 *** valeuf
117 2010-05-05T19:57:09 <dreimark> http://github.com/AdamN/python-webkit2png/raw/master/webkit2png.py
118 2010-05-05T19:57:21 <dreimark> if we need snappshots
119 2010-05-05T21:30:11 <franklin> Hi,
120 2010-05-05T21:31:21 <franklin> The file wiki/config/wikifarm/mywiki.py doesn't contain data_underlay_dir='foo', nor superuser = ["johnDoe"].
121 2010-05-05T21:32:02 <franklin> I beleive it would make users' life easier if it did.
122 2010-05-05T21:57:13 <dreimark> bad idea to set a user in superuser on default
123 2010-05-05T21:57:15 <dreimark> very bad
124 2010-05-05T21:57:24 <dreimark> or lets name it evil
125 2010-05-05T21:59:10 <dreimark> it needs to be explained i aggree with adding #template vars and comments
126 2010-05-05T21:59:35 <franklin> dreimark: I wasn't clear. the superuser entry should be commented out (!).
127 2010-05-05T22:01:56 <dreimark> ok but also i don't want a name in it.
128 2010-05-05T22:04:11 <dreimark> (my opinion)
129 2010-05-05T22:04:23 <franklin> agreed, IMHO
130 2010-05-05T22:13:06 *** valeuf
131 2010-05-05T22:43:27 *** valeuf
132 2010-05-05T22:47:51 <valeuf> moin
133 2010-05-05T22:48:16 <valeuf> I am looking for some stuffs in the DOM Tree but I have frequently IOError with the moin2.0 branch
134 2010-05-05T22:49:18 <valeuf> http://pastie.org/947431
135 2010-05-05T22:49:27 <valeuf> it is quite odd because it is pretty random !
136 2010-05-05T22:49:52 <TheSheep> windows?
137 2010-05-05T22:51:25 <valeuf> nope Archlinux
138 2010-05-05T22:52:04 <valeuf> just clone the repos, do a make to got the static stuffs, and launch wikiserver
139 2010-05-05T22:52:11 <valeuf> (and I created one page)
140 2010-05-05T22:52:18 <ThomasWaldmann> re
141 2010-05-05T22:53:08 <ThomasWaldmann> franklin: don't share underlay
142 2010-05-05T22:55:27 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: i recently use fs2 (because I am developing there), but I'll try fs
143 2010-05-05T22:56:39 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: If I see any way to reproduce the bug, I will tell you
144 2010-05-05T22:57:00 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: at this time it just happens few time when I load a page on localhost
145 2010-05-05T22:59:04 <ThomasWaldmann> load or save?
146 2010-05-05T22:59:34 <valeuf> both
147 2010-05-05T23:00:18 <ThomasWaldmann> how often?
148 2010-05-05T23:02:32 <valeuf> well, maybe one over ten times
149 2010-05-05T23:02:45 <valeuf> i try to reload many times some pages
150 2010-05-05T23:02:57 <valeuf> but the bug did not occur again
151 2010-05-05T23:05:59 <franklin> ThomasWaldmann: As far as Debian package is concerned, the sysadmin must configure the underlay location, because otherwise it points to a read only location.
152 2010-05-05T23:08:05 <franklin> from you answer, I guess that you [upstream setup] don't have the issue, so we'll carry a specific patch. I'll mention that it's wise to share the underlay (by configuring it in farmconfig.py)
153 2010-05-05T23:09:30 <ThomasWaldmann> no, don't share it
154 2010-05-05T23:09:49 <ThomasWaldmann> there are some cosmetic issues if you do
155 2010-05-05T23:10:34 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: i did a few dozen read requests, but no problem
156 2010-05-05T23:10:52 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: well I am shy, it does not happen anymore now ...
157 2010-05-05T23:11:00 <valeuf> maybe some problem with my disk ...
158 2010-05-05T23:11:33 <ThomasWaldmann> did it happen after many previous requests when you saw it first?
159 2010-05-05T23:11:37 <valeuf> I think I know .... I have only 12Mb free on my disk ...
160 2010-05-05T23:11:47 * valeuf is going to delete some files
161 2010-05-05T23:18:24 <valeuf> well, I am not completely sure it was because of the limited sapce on my partition, but it seems that it does not happen anymore now :)
162 2010-05-05T23:26:44 <valeuf> ah no ...
163 2010-05-05T23:26:49 <valeuf> that's curious
164 2010-05-05T23:27:16 <valeuf> Hum I found a way to reproduce it
165 2010-05-05T23:27:58 <valeuf> If I open a page on localhost, then kill wikiserver, restart wikiserver and reload the same page on localhost
166 2010-05-05T23:28:12 <valeuf> it crash, and then loading the page again fix the problem
167 2010-05-05T23:47:07 <ThomasWaldmann> can you try if it happens without preload_xml?
