1 2010-05-19T02:32:22 *** xjjk
2 2010-05-19T05:14:46 *** kursor
3 2010-05-19T06:00:02 *** kursor
4 2010-05-19T06:25:10 *** kursor
5 2010-05-19T06:34:26 *** kursor
6 2010-05-19T08:02:02 *** ei-grad
7 2010-05-19T08:16:43 <ei-grad> Moin.
8 2010-05-19T08:16:49 <ei-grad> Yesterday I spent about 6 hours reading all the documentation py.test and exploring other tests in MoinMoin.
9 2010-05-19T08:16:59 <ei-grad> Today I am busy for personal reasons, but I think that I will be able to devote enough time tomorrow to finish with test_ldap_login.py.
10 2010-05-19T08:17:07 <ei-grad> Probably I will need to ask a few questions to Thomas, what time should I plan it?
11 2010-05-19T08:20:24 <ei-grad> sorry for my bad english, if so
12 2010-05-19T08:42:40 *** moin6
13 2010-05-19T08:42:45 <moin6> Hello
14 2010-05-19T08:43:23 <moin6> I have a couple of questions about MoinMoin 2.0.
15 2010-05-19T08:43:46 <moin6> 1. Is there an *approximate* time frame for when it will be released? If yes, what is it?
16 2010-05-19T08:44:17 <moin6> 2. Will it be easy to upgrade from MoinMoin 1.9.x to 2.0 (including moving from flat files into a DB backend)?
17 2010-05-19T09:03:57 <moin6> Anyone around? :)
18 2010-05-19T09:08:16 *** moin6
19 2010-05-19T09:24:14 <ThomasWaldmann> ei-grad: if you have questions, just ask
20 2010-05-19T10:15:19 *** moin0
21 2010-05-19T10:15:34 <moin0> Hello
22 2010-05-19T10:15:36 <moin0> I have a couple of questions about MoinMoin 2.0. 1. Is there an *approximate* time frame for when it will be released? If yes, what is it? 2. Will it be easy to upgrade from MoinMoin 1.9.x to 2.0 (including moving from flat files into a DB backend)?
23 2010-05-19T10:15:46 <ThomasWaldmann> hi moin0
24 2010-05-19T10:15:54 <moin0> Hi Thomas :)
25 2010-05-19T10:16:18 <moin0> I got disconnected a while ago. I had posted the same questions about an hour or two ago.
26 2010-05-19T10:16:27 <ThomasWaldmann> it is a bit early to give a time frame, but 1-2y are expected.
27 2010-05-19T10:16:54 <moin0> Ok. So something like year 2011 or 2012?
28 2010-05-19T10:17:10 <moin0> I understand this is a major rewrite.
29 2010-05-19T10:17:14 <ThomasWaldmann> Could happen faster maybe, if more developers helped with developing...
30 2010-05-19T10:17:19 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, it is
31 2010-05-19T10:18:41 <moin0> And what about upgrading from 1.9.x? Any idea if that would be something easy or moderately difficult to do? Or very difficult? Again, I do realize you may not have all the information.
32 2010-05-19T10:18:46 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, the sqlalchemy backend needs more work (in case you're interested in that one)
33 2010-05-19T10:18:59 <moin0> ok
34 2010-05-19T10:19:34 <ThomasWaldmann> we'll have data migration support, but due to the huge amount of changes, quite some additional work is expected
35 2010-05-19T10:19:40 <moin0> ok
36 2010-05-19T10:19:47 <moin0> Makes sense.
37 2010-05-19T10:20:10 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, with /nick you can change your name. :)
38 2010-05-19T10:20:20 <moin0> Yeah, I know.
39 2010-05-19T10:20:25 <moin0> I'm not a Python developer. I've mainly worked on C and C related languages.
40 2010-05-19T10:20:40 <ThomasWaldmann> you could use Python for relaxing. :D
41 2010-05-19T10:23:55 <ThomasWaldmann> do you have sql db experience?
42 2010-05-19T10:25:08 <moin0> Yes, some.
43 2010-05-19T10:25:41 <moin0> In SQL Server and Oracle (the latter was ages ago).
44 2010-05-19T10:27:50 <ThomasWaldmann> the sqla backend has performance problems and needs review
45 2010-05-19T10:28:22 <ThomasWaldmann> but i guess one needs to know about sqlalchemy's orm
46 2010-05-19T10:29:53 <moin0> Yeah, I agree.
47 2010-05-19T10:30:12 <moin0> Are you talking about the sqla project code or something specific to Moin?
48 2010-05-19T10:30:33 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i am currently trying to index all metadata with sqlalchemy
49 2010-05-19T10:30:57 <ThomasWaldmann> (by default it will use sqlite as backend, which comes with Python)
50 2010-05-19T10:32:01 <ThomasWaldmann> moin has a (specific) backend for sqlalchemy, it uses the ORM of sqlalchemy
51 2010-05-19T10:32:41 <ThomasWaldmann> and likely the backend has performance problems because it is not optimized enough
52 2010-05-19T10:37:22 <moin0> Ok. I understand that to mean that the backend in Moin is not optimized enough.
53 2010-05-19T10:38:00 <ThomasWaldmann> at least the sqla kind of backend (we have others also)
54 2010-05-19T10:40:32 <moin0> Sorry I'm unable to help with this.
55 2010-05-19T10:45:04 *** moin0
56 2010-05-19T12:49:38 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: did you try xpath for tests?
57 2010-05-19T12:51:00 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: what's up with dmitry?
58 2010-05-19T13:07:26 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: he said today he would write first draft of bounding period report.
59 2010-05-19T13:08:35 <eSyr> he said currently he is working on csv-DOM converter.
60 2010-05-19T13:28:36 <ThomasWaldmann> he should show a bit more presence and communication here
61 2010-05-19T13:29:55 <ThomasWaldmann> one of the usual questions in the surveys mentors will have to do is "how well did the student interact / communicate with mentor / developers / community?"
62 2010-05-19T13:31:59 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, 4 days of community bonding time left
63 2010-05-19T13:32:21 <ThomasWaldmann> no, 5.
64 2010-05-19T13:39:26 <ThomasWaldmann> waldi: http://code.google.com/p/py-dom-xpath/ looks a bit more complete than what ET has
65 2010-05-19T15:20:28 *** gwork
66 2010-05-19T15:45:19 *** kursor
67 2010-05-19T15:55:13 <dreimark> moin
68 2010-05-19T16:16:55 <ThomasWaldmann> hi dreimark
69 2010-05-19T16:18:50 *** ei-grad
70 2010-05-19T17:09:01 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: sorry, I am quite busy with lectures today, but I am free tomorrow, and it is on the top of my TODO list !
71 2010-05-19T17:10:35 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: y-dom-xpath can be interesting to use instead of the embryo of XPath in ET
72 2010-05-19T17:12:12 <ThomasWaldmann> transplanting that stuff would be best maybe, not sure how easy that is though
73 2010-05-19T17:17:05 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I put this on my todo list too, I will check tomorrow what advantages we can get from each
74 2010-05-19T17:20:51 *** gwork
75 2010-05-19T18:10:45 *** kursor
76 2010-05-19T19:04:03 * ThomasWaldmann drives to LUG meeting. Maybe with UMTS internet, let's see. No WLAN there... :|
77 2010-05-19T19:06:57 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: well, irc+text reviewing are ok with gprs, as my practice have shown :)
78 2010-05-19T19:07:39 <eSyr> btw, when 1.9.3 is planned to be released?
79 2010-05-19T19:07:51 <ThomasWaldmann> soon
80 2010-05-19T19:08:06 <eSyr> -_-
81 2010-05-19T19:08:09 <eSyr> how soon?
82 2010-05-19T19:08:18 <ThomasWaldmann> this month
83 2010-05-19T19:08:38 * ThomasWaldmann wants to have this done when soc coding starts
84 2010-05-19T19:08:40 <eSyr> ok, i should speed up with updating translation then -_-
85 2010-05-19T19:10:11 <ThomasWaldmann> i am currently doing support for a windows server 2003 based moin installation, maybe I'll wait until that is over, in case i find some platform problems that need to get fixed.
86 2010-05-19T19:10:52 <ThomasWaldmann> anyway, bbl
87 2010-05-19T20:11:26 <dreimark> https://launchpad.net/jessyink nice feature for singlepage slideshow
88 2010-05-19T20:11:33 <dreimark> if we could do that too
89 2010-05-19T20:14:01 <ThomasWaldmann> re
