1 2010-05-25T00:48:04 <xorAxAx> valeuf: /div/p/sub works if the code is <div>...<p>...<sub>...
2 2010-05-25T01:03:52 <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8239:bbf6a77e0284 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/indexing.py: indexing: use metadata keyname constants
3 2010-05-25T01:03:56 <CIA-47> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 8240:706fac7f7627 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/storage/backends/ (indexing.py router.py): indexing: history_from_index implementation (per backend history, needs more work)
4 2010-05-25T01:45:21 <CIA-47> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 530:78ca2464edf9 extensions/data/plugin/macro/EmbedContent.py: macro.EmbedContent: embeds html content of an URL on a page (action=content)
5 2010-05-25T01:47:02 <dreimark> gn
6 2010-05-25T03:46:11 *** diofeher
7 2010-05-25T04:36:12 *** diofeher
8 2010-05-25T05:17:37 *** kursor
9 2010-05-25T05:20:02 *** kursor_
10 2010-05-25T05:21:46 *** kursor
11 2010-05-25T05:24:16 *** kursor_
12 2010-05-25T05:56:27 *** eSyr
13 2010-05-25T06:06:23 *** eSyr
14 2010-05-25T07:19:01 *** franklin
15 2010-05-25T07:43:25 *** DmitryAndreev
16 2010-05-25T08:04:52 *** franklin
17 2010-05-25T08:35:24 <ThomasWaldmann> moin
18 2010-05-25T09:17:39 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: eSyr: TheSheep: xorAxAx: please keep an eye on students updating diary daily (they can use MonthCalendar or something else)
19 2010-05-25T09:50:38 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: yep, I saw you test, but you do not have such test : a/b/c
20 2010-05-25T09:55:06 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, make a changeset :)
21 2010-05-25T09:55:18 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: yep I am working on
22 2010-05-25T09:55:41 <valeuf> but I will finish this evening, university is waiting for me T.T
23 2010-05-25T10:09:59 *** DmitryAndreev
24 2010-05-25T10:49:06 <dreimark> moin
25 2010-05-25T11:06:15 *** DmitryAndreev_
26 2010-05-25T11:07:15 *** DmitryAndreev
27 2010-05-25T11:28:04 *** DmitryAndreev_
28 2010-05-25T12:03:26 *** vpv
29 2010-05-25T12:11:53 <CIA-47> Dmitry Andreev <klieg.polar@gmail.com> default * 8220:bc7af0727021 2.0-dev-wiki-rest-dandreev/MoinMoin/converter2/moinwiki_out.py: DOM->Moinwiki converter skeleton.
30 2010-05-25T12:18:29 <ThomasWaldmann> DmitryAndreev: can you check your clock?
31 2010-05-25T12:18:59 <ThomasWaldmann> Tue May 25 14:41:47 2010 +0400 (in the future ago)
32 2010-05-25T12:19:31 *** diofeher
33 2010-05-25T12:23:16 <DmitryAndreev> ThomasWaldmann, done.) Втр Май 25 14:22:57 MSD 2010
34 2010-05-25T12:23:44 <ThomasWaldmann> :)
35 2010-05-25T12:24:02 <ThomasWaldmann> ntp rules :D
36 2010-05-25T12:24:28 <DmitryAndreev> future time on clocks helps me to not be late.
37 2010-05-25T12:24:41 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
38 2010-05-25T12:25:29 <ThomasWaldmann> you need to fix the header
39 2010-05-25T12:27:14 <DmitryAndreev> where?
40 2010-05-25T12:28:02 <ThomasWaldmann> line 4, remove "a "
41 2010-05-25T12:28:14 <ThomasWaldmann> line 8, update copyright
42 2010-05-25T12:28:24 <diofeher> moin!
43 2010-05-25T12:28:34 <ThomasWaldmann> hi diofeher
44 2010-05-25T12:28:37 <DmitryAndreev> thanks
45 2010-05-25T12:28:59 <ThomasWaldmann> line 16 - lowercase class name is unusual, usually it is uppercase/camelcase
46 2010-05-25T12:29:01 <diofeher> hi ThomasWaldmann
47 2010-05-25T12:29:12 <diofeher> hi ThomasWaldmann
48 2010-05-25T12:29:21 <diofeher> hey TheSheep
49 2010-05-25T12:30:04 <ThomasWaldmann> also, in general make sure you use new-style classes, so it is SomeClass(object): or SomeClass(SomeOtherNewStyleClass):.
50 2010-05-25T12:30:38 <DmitryAndreev> about copyright, if i use same code structure as use someone else, i'll keep his name in copyright?
51 2010-05-25T12:31:17 <ThomasWaldmann> if you copy code, you need to keep other's (c), but as soon as you start changing it, you need to add yourself
52 2010-05-25T12:33:22 <ThomasWaldmann> line 243: typo "conversion" (also, please add a blank after #)
53 2010-05-25T12:35:44 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: according to you comment, so I discuss my project at Jinja 2010 and Plugins 2010 pages?
54 2010-05-25T12:38:09 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: for example, yes
55 2010-05-25T12:38:46 <ThomasWaldmann> you'll have lots of diary pages, so doing a discussion on them might be rather confusing and things would be hard to find
56 2010-05-25T12:40:25 <DmitryAndreev> ThomasWaldmann, i'll commit all fixes with next changes today at evening, i'm going to meet with my potential postgraduate supervisor at 15.00
57 2010-05-25T12:40:42 <diofeher> okay Thomas :)
58 2010-05-25T13:03:41 *** vpv
59 2010-05-25T13:10:50 *** DmitryAndreev
60 2010-05-25T13:13:25 *** gwork
61 2010-05-25T13:25:22 *** xjjk
62 2010-05-25T13:45:54 <dreimark> hmm, where is my student
63 2010-05-25T13:49:06 <eSyr> dreimark: which student is youres (sorry, i forgot this)?
64 2010-05-25T13:49:11 <eSyr> *yours
65 2010-05-25T13:50:34 <ThomasWaldmann> http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2010
66 2010-05-25T13:57:30 <eSyr> oh, thanks.
67 2010-05-25T14:06:23 <eSyr> dreimark: i've forwarded your message to his xmpp account.
68 2010-05-25T14:14:56 <diofeher> if anyone can take a look at 'Template Loading' at http://www.moinmo.in/Jinja 2010 and point if I'm in the right way
69 2010-05-25T14:39:38 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: there is a global switch to enable jinja based theming in moin
70 2010-05-25T14:39:42 <ThomasWaldmann> locate it and use it :)
71 2010-05-25T14:40:24 <ThomasWaldmann> jinja_theming or jinja2_templating or so
72 2010-05-25T14:40:42 <eSyr> (big red switch with label "do not touch!")
73 2010-05-25T14:42:58 <ThomasWaldmann> hehe
74 2010-05-25T14:51:06 <diofeher> hahahah
75 2010-05-25T14:51:09 <diofeher> okay tks
76 2010-05-25T14:53:26 <diofeher> i have a suggestion about moin dev... where should i put in wiki? (not related to my project)
77 2010-05-25T15:02:45 <dreimark> diofeher: feature request?
78 2010-05-25T15:08:00 <diofeher> no, only refactoring suggestion
79 2010-05-25T15:28:46 <ThomasWaldmann> you can either just tell it here or also file a feature request
80 2010-05-25T15:53:14 *** ei-grad
81 2010-05-25T15:54:55 <ei-grad> moin
82 2010-05-25T15:56:01 <ThomasWaldmann> hi ei-grad
83 2010-05-25T15:59:14 *** DmitryAndreev
84 2010-05-25T16:03:08 <ei-grad> I'm sorry, I not worked on ldap test yesterday, my neighbor brought home someone's MacBook Air, to update the software... Being able to work with Mac OS, I sat behind this until morning...
85 2010-05-25T16:05:30 <ei-grad> Frankly, I just forgot what it was going to do.
86 2010-05-25T16:05:52 <ei-grad> *what I was going to do
87 2010-05-25T16:06:23 <DmitryAndreev> ei-grad, hehe, one year ago i have the same thing with macos.
88 2010-05-25T16:11:21 <eSyr> well, macosx is rather useable, after installing X11, xterm and tiling window manager.
89 2010-05-25T16:15:55 <eSyr> (something like http://offline.computerra.ru/upload/679-2-2.jpg )
90 2010-05-25T16:30:42 <dreimark> ei-grad: please keep an eye on your diary
91 2010-05-25T16:47:26 <ei-grad> dreimark: what do you mean?
92 2010-05-25T16:49:00 <ThomasWaldmann> that you please update your diary daily
93 2010-05-25T16:49:17 <ei-grad> oh, ok, i'll try
94 2010-05-25T16:49:23 <ThomasWaldmann> (^^ that applies for all students)
95 2010-05-25T16:50:58 <dreimark> ei-grad: do you have started with the test?
96 2010-05-25T16:51:47 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: moin maint reducewiki needs a bugfix :)
97 2010-05-25T16:52:14 * dreimark knows
98 2010-05-25T16:52:15 <ThomasWaldmann> i suspect that rootdir is None
99 2010-05-25T16:52:22 <dreimark> ah ok
100 2010-05-25T16:52:59 <ThomasWaldmann> you want to throw away history?
101 2010-05-25T16:54:13 *** gwork
102 2010-05-25T16:54:37 <dreimark> i totally missed to set destdir = self.options.target_dir
103 2010-05-25T16:54:57 <dreimark> yes all older edits, because they are done by the bot
104 2010-05-25T16:55:50 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i thougt it does this inplave
105 2010-05-25T16:55:56 <dreimark> *inplace
106 2010-05-25T16:59:06 <dreimark> argh, maint makecache found some pages where i can't create pagedicts because of CacheError: [Errno 36] File name too long:
107 2010-05-25T17:01:00 * dreimark wonders about what people believe the page title is defined for
108 2010-05-25T17:01:49 <ThomasWaldmann> some people are confused about that, this is known :)
109 2010-05-25T17:09:35 <ei-grad> dreimark: no, i don't started, today i busy with a task for university, need to write a convultional code decoder that uses Viterbi algorithm... before tomorrow...
110 2010-05-25T17:12:43 <ei-grad> that was a semester task, to write it in C/C++ for specified code parameters, but professor asked me and one other student to rewrite it for common case... he allowed me to write in python :-)
111 2010-05-25T17:13:13 <ThomasWaldmann> "oh sorry, I am busy with SOC" :)
112 2010-05-25T17:14:05 <ei-grad> I could not refuse), he helps us with the organizational issues of participation in the CTF
113 2010-05-25T17:15:20 *** ei-grad
114 2010-05-25T17:15:43 *** ei-grad
115 2010-05-25T17:15:58 <ei-grad> huh, pidgin crashed...
116 2010-05-25T17:19:18 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, does your professor know you are doing SoC now?
117 2010-05-25T17:35:36 <dreimark> ei-grad: please tell your professor that you be a SoC student
118 2010-05-25T17:37:55 <dreimark> TheSheep: is it possible to enable a sidebar in modernized theme
119 2010-05-25T17:38:05 <dreimark> ?
120 2010-05-25T17:38:08 <DmitryAndreev> russian professors don't want to know what student do outside the university... mostly
121 2010-05-25T17:39:21 <ThomasWaldmann> well, it is related to software development, so if you studies are also related to that...
122 2010-05-25T17:39:22 <dreimark> we have to fill out lots of surveys during the program runs.
123 2010-05-25T17:40:10 <ThomasWaldmann> there is even a gsoc faq entry "can i get university credits for my SOC project" :)
124 2010-05-25T17:41:32 <dreimark> http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_course_credit
125 2010-05-25T17:45:40 <DmitryAndreev> this will not work in Russia,)
126 2010-05-25T17:47:03 * ThomasWaldmann is reminded about "In Soviet Russia ..." jokes :)
127 2010-05-25T17:47:41 <DmitryAndreev> "will" - is it right in this phrase?
128 2010-05-25T17:48:35 <ThomasWaldmann> if you are referring to future, yes. "would" be maybe more correct if you are talking about the possibility.
129 2010-05-25T17:49:11 <DmitryAndreev> would, ok
130 2010-05-25T17:49:50 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.google.com/images?q=in+soviet+russia&btnG=Search&um=1&hl=en&client=ubuntu&channel=fs&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=2
131 2010-05-25T17:49:56 <ThomasWaldmann> wow, 6 million results :D
132 2010-05-25T17:52:00 <DmitryAndreev> - the largest country in the world .)
133 2010-05-25T17:55:22 <eSyr> http://encyclopediadramatica.com/In_Soviet_Russia
134 2010-05-25T17:56:17 <eSyr> (surprisingly informational article on æ)
135 2010-05-25T17:56:36 <eSyr> (such unusual)
136 2010-05-25T18:19:22 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: don't you think that wikiutil is too big? i think that split in modules would be better
137 2010-05-25T18:20:13 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: yes, you are right. but this is much work, as it is used all over the place.
138 2010-05-25T18:20:40 <ThomasWaldmann> also, 3rd party stuff might use it
139 2010-05-25T18:27:09 <diofeher> unrun
140 2010-05-25T18:27:13 <diofeher> but i thinking
141 2010-05-25T18:27:30 <diofeher> split in modules and then import all in __init__ :)
142 2010-05-25T18:28:11 <eSyr> diofeher: not import, but approach similiar to used in wergzeug can be used.
143 2010-05-25T18:28:43 <eSyr> like http://dev.pocoo.org/projects/werkzeug/browser/werkzeug/__init__.py
144 2010-05-25T18:28:49 <diofeher> lemme see
145 2010-05-25T18:29:12 <diofeher> mm, nice approach
146 2010-05-25T18:29:47 <eSyr> See's lemma
147 2010-05-25T18:30:38 <diofeher> i just saying this because i get lost when i'm looking for theme related stuff in wikiutil
148 2010-05-25T18:30:44 <ThomasWaldmann> "das schweigende Lemma" was very popular back then when I had math at university. :D
149 2010-05-25T18:30:45 <diofeher> too different functions in same place
150 2010-05-25T18:30:55 <diofeher> lemme = let me D:
151 2010-05-25T18:31:08 <eSyr> diofeher: i know, just playing with words.
152 2010-05-25T18:31:46 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: hehe
153 2010-05-25T18:32:43 <diofeher> hehe
154 2010-05-25T18:33:14 * ThomasWaldmann didn't expect too many people laughing about german wordplay :)
155 2010-05-25T18:34:06 <diofeher> ^^
156 2010-05-25T18:34:48 <diofeher> i need to talk with radomir... I was very busy last week and didn't decided much about my project...
157 2010-05-25T18:34:56 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: lerning german in school and dictionaries help understanding language jokes.
158 2010-05-25T18:35:04 <eSyr> *learning
159 2010-05-25T18:43:08 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/DraftLoadDataNeedsGC - did you read about how python's GC roughly works?
160 2010-05-25T18:43:40 <ThomasWaldmann> (and that it does it's job automatically for the usual cases?)
161 2010-05-25T18:43:51 <ThomasWaldmann> *its
162 2010-05-25T18:44:53 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: do you have stuff pending for 1.9.3?
163 2010-05-25T18:45:25 <eSyr> yes, some translations.
164 2010-05-25T18:45:25 <ThomasWaldmann> oh, wow
165 2010-05-25T18:45:32 * ThomasWaldmann looks at master19 RC
166 2010-05-25T18:46:32 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: when 1.9.3 is planned to be out?
167 2010-05-25T18:47:21 <ThomasWaldmann> well, I don't think I have any priority todos left, so could release it any time.
168 2010-05-25T18:47:44 <eSyr> oh, ok.
169 2010-05-25T18:47:50 <eSyr> i'll try to finish asap.
170 2010-05-25T18:48:35 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: ntw, Roger added new page, looks like it should be added to po's.
171 2010-05-25T18:48:39 <eSyr> *btw
172 2010-05-25T18:48:45 <diofeher> hey guys, going to college, bye
173 2010-05-25T18:49:10 <eSyr> http://master19.moinmo.in/HelpOnOpenEditorOnDoubleClick
174 2010-05-25T18:49:13 <eSyr> diofeher: bye.
175 2010-05-25T18:49:50 *** diofeher
176 2010-05-25T18:52:01 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: and should we bundle http://master19.moinmo.in/InstallDocs and http://master19.moinmo.in/HelpOnUpdating ?
177 2010-05-25T18:52:51 * eSyr is looking at http://master19.moinmo.in/?action=CheckTranslation#footer , "Pages with language "en" not listed above:"
178 2010-05-25T18:52:58 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: that is in docs/*
179 2010-05-25T18:53:40 <eSyr> ah, ok.
180 2010-05-25T18:53:41 <ThomasWaldmann> HelpOnOpenEditorOnDoubleClick isn't that a bit overdoing it?
181 2010-05-25T18:54:15 <eSyr> well, Roger added it :) May be it's really to verbose, though.
182 2010-05-25T18:58:12 <eSyr> anyway it is linked from HelpOnEditing.
183 2010-05-25T19:08:43 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: it translation also lacks associating translating page names.
184 2010-05-25T19:09:05 <eSyr> http://master19.moinmo.in/4ct10n/CheckTranslation/%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0?action=CheckTranslation&pageset=all_pages&language=it
185 2010-05-25T19:09:10 <eSyr> err
186 2010-05-25T19:09:20 <eSyr> http://master19.moinmo.in/?action=CheckTranslation&pageset=all_pages&language=it
187 2010-05-25T19:09:27 <eSyr> (slightly shorter link)
188 2010-05-25T19:09:40 * dreimark plays with lat
189 2010-05-25T19:15:13 <dreimark> arg not stable
190 2010-05-25T19:17:49 *** ei-grad
191 2010-05-25T19:22:58 *** ei-grad
192 2010-05-25T19:27:11 <ThomasWaldmann> i dropped a note there and everybody except the original author got notified :|
193 2010-05-25T19:34:53 <dreimark> ei-grad: where do i know if ldaps means tls or ssl
194 2010-05-25T19:45:31 *** xjjk
195 2010-05-25T19:45:57 *** DmitryAndreev
196 2010-05-25T19:47:06 * dreimark looks at luma
197 2010-05-25T19:58:08 * dreimark likes luma
198 2010-05-25T20:11:03 * ei-grad uses apache directory studio
199 2010-05-25T20:35:49 * dreimark that was a long turn i missed sAMAccountName to identify AD
200 2010-05-25T20:36:14 <dreimark> ei-grad: is that running on linux too?
201 2010-05-25T20:36:23 <dreimark> tls works
202 2010-05-25T20:36:27 <dreimark> for me
203 2010-05-25T20:36:31 <valeuf> FutureWarning: This search is broken in 1.3 and earlier; if you rely on the current behaviour, change it to u'./a/b/c'
204 2010-05-25T20:38:00 <ei-grad> dreimark: what do you mean? running on linux...
205 2010-05-25T20:38:43 <dreimark> i don't know about "apache directory studio" i used luma for testing ldap setup
206 2010-05-25T20:43:22 <ei-grad> yes) apache directory studio running on linux) it is eclipse based application... so it is rather big, and not very easy to use in some cases...
207 2010-05-25T20:43:54 <dreimark> sounds interesting i look at it at home
208 2010-05-25T20:44:11 <ei-grad> also, you could try jxplorer, it is good too
209 2010-05-25T20:49:55 <dreimark> hmm, that one has to small input boxes or it needs also a bigger screen
210 2010-05-25T20:54:45 <valeuf> waldi: ping ?
211 2010-05-25T21:23:49 *** diofeher
212 2010-05-25T21:32:46 *** DmitryAndreev
213 2010-05-25T21:39:49 <valeuf> ok, I found how to use correctly Xpath with ET ^ ^
214 2010-05-25T21:40:10 <valeuf> http://paste.pocoo.org/show/218229/
215 2010-05-25T21:47:02 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinPatch/WikiUtilSplit
216 2010-05-25T22:02:01 <dreimark> ei-grad: i will have time the next weekend to look at the ldap test too.
217 2010-05-25T22:03:24 <dreimark> do you have read already user wishes for ldap groups on moinmo.in?
218 2010-05-25T22:04:07 <dreimark> e.g. http://moinmo.in/FeatureRequests/LdapBasedGroupDefinitions
219 2010-05-25T22:07:27 <ei-grad> dreimark: yes, i found them when I was writing proposal... and i even asked about existed code here...
220 2010-05-25T22:16:28 <valeuf> xorAxAx: it seems that namespaces make Xpath not working
221 2010-05-25T22:17:59 *** diofeher
222 2010-05-25T22:38:40 *** vpv
223 2010-05-25T22:42:52 *** vpv
224 2010-05-25T23:24:34 *** ei-grad
225 2010-05-25T23:32:10 <xorAxAx> valeuf: check in a failing test
226 2010-05-25T23:32:41 <valeuf> xorAxAx: what do you mean ?
227 2010-05-25T23:33:00 <xorAxAx> valeuf: write a unittest that fails and commit it to your repository
228 2010-05-25T23:33:30 <valeuf> xorAxAx: see XPath and Namespaces in http://moinmo.in/ValentinJaniaut/GSoC/ProblemsAndQuestion
229 2010-05-25T23:33:30 <ThomasWaldmann> emeraldtree is a separate repo
230 2010-05-25T23:33:40 <valeuf> xorAxAx: I do not like to commit not working code
231 2010-05-25T23:34:47 <xorAxAx> valeuf: well, if you skip the test and dont forget it, its fine
232 2010-05-25T23:36:25 <valeuf> xorAxAx: but I found why it is not working :)
233 2010-05-25T23:36:37 <xorAxAx> ah, why? :)
234 2010-05-25T23:36:38 <valeuf> xorAxAx: I was currently explaining that on the wiki
235 2010-05-25T23:40:45 <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/EmeraldTree/
