1 2010-06-01T00:37:17 <RogerHaase> dreimark: That would be great, I don't mind a big page if it saves you trouble and is not confidential.
2 2010-06-01T01:25:42 *** RogerHaase
3 2010-06-01T02:58:21 *** ei-grad
4 2010-06-01T03:00:05 *** grad
5 2010-06-01T03:00:23 *** grad
6 2010-06-01T03:59:16 <CIA-47> Diogenes Augusto <diofeher@gmail.com> default * 8234:b7ab0340fd42 2.0-dev-jinja2-plugins-dfeher/MoinMoin/ (5 files in 2 dirs): [jinja2] fix some indetation and added tags to footer and head
7 2010-06-01T04:00:16 <diofeher> thomas said that we need to do better messsages... i think it's good idea to put the name of project in the start of line, like [jinja2
8 2010-06-01T04:01:01 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann tell me about this tomorrow =)
9 2010-06-01T06:01:47 *** valeuf
10 2010-06-01T06:01:53 *** valeuf
11 2010-06-01T06:08:01 *** valeuf
12 2010-06-01T06:08:01 *** ValentinJaniaut
13 2010-06-01T06:08:01 *** ValentinJaniaut
14 2010-06-01T06:25:24 *** CIA-47
15 2010-06-01T06:46:10 *** CIA-47
16 2010-06-01T07:52:11 *** DmitryAndreev
17 2010-06-01T08:27:27 *** gwork
18 2010-06-01T08:36:50 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: is there any objections against working on draft of talk about moin 2.0 on http://www.altlinux.ru/news/archive/2010/05/item/593/ under http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinTalks/ page?
19 2010-06-01T08:38:06 <eSyr> (i still haven't deployed moinmoin.ru site)
20 2010-06-01T08:50:39 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: usually the "finished" talks are there. you want to publish it before it's finished?
21 2010-06-01T08:51:03 <ThomasWaldmann> (or "held")
22 2010-06-01T09:00:07 <eSyr> well, i want to work on it there :) ok, i'll use some other wiki.
23 2010-06-01T09:02:04 <ThomasWaldmann> well, you could work on it there, but it would be rather public then :)
24 2010-06-01T09:02:53 <ThomasWaldmann> google translate ru > en works quite ok.
25 2010-06-01T09:13:14 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: or we setup some acl there, if you like
26 2010-06-01T10:18:26 <valeuf> xorAxAx: about space in front of question mark in English?
27 2010-06-01T10:18:52 <valeuf> xorAxAx: yes! http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/rev/468685e27333
28 2010-06-01T10:19:26 <valeuf> xorAxAx: but I realised that you were probably talking about the pages I am writing on MoinMoin wiki ...
29 2010-06-01T10:22:46 <valeuf> xorAxAx: I walk through my wiki pages to remove useless space, I will try to change my habits, but it is hard to forget a 15 years old reflex!
30 2010-06-01T10:23:14 * valeuf is looking for the bug tracker of the english language, to tell them they forget spaces in their language...
31 2010-06-01T10:56:11 <dreimark> moin
32 2010-06-01T10:56:42 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: we could set acls?
33 2010-06-01T10:57:19 *** gwork
34 2010-06-01T11:14:32 <eSyr> ThomasWaldmann: i have nothing against publicity, i mostly concern about appropriatness.
35 2010-06-01T11:29:52 <dennda> Is there a name for the way in which Moin is deployed? (i.e. when you include all the dependencies)
36 2010-06-01T11:30:04 <dennda> I heard the term "kitchen sink" once, but not sure that's how it's called
37 2010-06-01T11:31:05 <valeuf> dennda: battery included ?
38 2010-06-01T11:38:11 <TheSheep> dennda: bundle?
39 2010-06-01T11:38:47 <dennda> hm
40 2010-06-01T11:38:56 <dennda> so I guess I have to coin a term in our case ^^
41 2010-06-01T11:39:10 <dennda> batteries included is a good idea (python uses that as well, with a different meaning though)
42 2010-06-01T11:39:55 <TheSheep> you usually say that the dependencies are bundled with the app
43 2010-06-01T11:40:54 <valeuf> dennda: yes, I know but since MoinMoin is written with python, it can give a good idea of what you want to say
44 2010-06-01T11:41:06 <dennda> valeuf: true
45 2010-06-01T11:41:13 <valeuf> dennda: otherwise TheSheep is pretty right I think
46 2010-06-01T11:41:30 <dennda> thanks guys
47 2010-06-01T11:46:31 <ThomasWaldmann> eSyr: we usually don't want non-english content on the wiki, but for such stuff i think we can make an exception. if you don't mind people reading your talk before you hold it, feel free to create a page. you can also request acls from me, so it is nonpublic until you hold the talk.
48 2010-06-01T11:54:27 *** DmitryAndreev
49 2010-06-01T11:55:02 <ThomasWaldmann> (discussion about translations is another common exception, of course :)
50 2010-06-01T11:55:21 <ThomasWaldmann> (and we also have german talks there :)
51 2010-06-01T11:58:32 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: oh BTW, do you have translator for French language usually ?
52 2010-06-01T12:01:03 <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/fr yes, see there. but it does no harm if multiple people are having an eye on it. :)
53 2010-06-01T12:05:12 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: great, I am pretty busy with SoC and my university projects, but during the summer, I will see to translate the Help pages, it is quite interesting to discover new things about moin moin :)
54 2010-06-01T12:08:01 <eSyr> valeuf: translation is a hard work, beware.
55 2010-06-01T12:08:04 <ThomasWaldmann> i guess there will be quite some todo when we start with moin2 documentation
56 2010-06-01T12:08:23 <valeuf> eSyr: yes, I know, I did it last summer, it is really hard
57 2010-06-01T12:08:32 <ThomasWaldmann> but I also guess we first start with english ONLY
58 2010-06-01T12:08:39 <valeuf> but it is really good to improve your language level
59 2010-06-01T12:09:01 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: ah yes, you will have to rewrite most of english help page
60 2010-06-01T12:09:05 <eSyr> only reading, maybe.
61 2010-06-01T12:09:20 <eSyr> valeuf: and translators have to translate them >:#
62 2010-06-01T12:09:22 <eSyr> >:3
63 2010-06-01T12:10:13 <valeuf> eSyr: yep, well, I will see who will translate at this time, but it can be interesting for me :)
64 2010-06-01T12:11:09 <ThomasWaldmann> if you want to practice docs, improve converter2 stuff docs :)
65 2010-06-01T12:11:30 <ThomasWaldmann> add anything you expected to find :)
66 2010-06-01T12:11:31 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: it is planed :)
67 2010-06-01T12:11:51 <eSyr> valeuf: http://master19.moinmo.in/?action=CheckTranslation&pageset=all_pages&language=fr if you like to translate underlay
68 2010-06-01T12:12:34 <ThomasWaldmann> btw, it is "community bonding time" :)
69 2010-06-01T12:13:21 <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I always confused about Bounding and Bonding :p
70 2010-06-01T12:13:35 <valeuf> did you start writting Help pages specific to moin 2 ??
71 2010-06-01T12:15:29 <ThomasWaldmann> bind is the verb, bound is past, bond / bonding is noun
72 2010-06-01T12:15:48 <TheSheep> bonding is gerund, to be precise
73 2010-06-01T12:15:51 <ThomasWaldmann> bounding also exists, but is a rather rare word
74 2010-06-01T12:21:53 <ThomasWaldmann> DmitryAndreev: please, not "a_middle", but "a_separator" or so
75 2010-06-01T12:25:41 <ThomasWaldmann> diofeher: i saw you are using wikiutil.escape() to prepare stuff for the template - isn't it easier to do the escaping in the template?
76 2010-06-01T12:25:49 <CIA-47> Valentin Janiaut <valentin.janiaut@utbm.fr> default * 8247:f41d32eb5e94 2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/MoinMoin/converter2/_tests/test_html_in.py: Add basic tests for link for HTML_IN converter
77 2010-06-01T12:25:51 <CIA-47> Valentin Janiaut <valentin.janiaut@utbm.fr> default * 8248:05375b03b167 2.0-dev-docbook-html-vjaniaut/MoinMoin/converter2/html_in.py: Add first solution for link in HTML_IN converter
78 2010-06-01T12:26:26 <valeuf> well, things are quite weird with the link, but I have to go to university unfortunately ...
79 2010-06-01T12:26:31 <valeuf> I will check about it later
80 2010-06-01T13:49:00 <diofeher> moin
81 2010-06-01T14:03:38 <ThomasWaldmann> hi diofeher
82 2010-06-01T14:24:27 <diofeher> ThomasWaldmann: hi! did you saw what i wrote about prefix of commits?
83 2010-06-01T14:40:11 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, sounds good
84 2010-06-01T14:40:48 <ThomasWaldmann> i was just thinking about whether jinja2 is good, because that's just what we use
85 2010-06-01T14:46:26 <ThomasWaldmann> (or rather templating: ... or so)
86 2010-06-01T15:06:16 <diofeher> unrun, templating sounds better
87 2010-06-01T15:06:58 <diofeher> when we merge repositories gonna be organized
88 2010-06-01T15:14:56 *** ValentinJaniaut
89 2010-06-01T15:17:34 *** valeuf
90 2010-06-01T15:17:34 *** ValentinJaniaut
91 2010-06-01T15:32:35 *** valeuf
92 2010-06-01T15:37:24 *** DmitryAndreev_
93 2010-06-01T15:40:40 *** DmitryAndreev
94 2010-06-01T15:49:02 *** DmitryAndreev_
95 2010-06-01T16:25:31 *** DmitryAndreev
96 2010-06-01T16:51:09 *** dreimark
97 2010-06-01T16:51:09 *** dreimark
98 2010-06-01T17:00:09 *** RogerHaase
99 2010-06-01T17:04:58 <dreimark> RogerHaase: i've seen your questions and will try to help later, currently too much work
100 2010-06-01T17:07:30 <RogerHaase> dreimark: OK, I am thinking of reworking the auto scroll javascript to put out more diagnostics. Like maybe set a cookie if the page H1 has a phrase like "autoscrollteston".
101 2010-06-01T17:08:55 *** valeuf
102 2010-06-01T17:09:10 <RogerHaase> And then put out anoyances like mouse rollovers showing the scroll-to line and an alert message if the page encountered a scroll-to line with a value lower than the previous line.
103 2010-06-01T17:13:09 <RogerHaase> Currently, I can not describe a sets of events that will consistently cause a failure in auto scroll.
104 2010-06-01T17:16:22 <dreimark> hmm, that makes it difficult. I am not sure if js can do some exception handling. May be it can just stop the script and show a message.
105 2010-06-01T17:22:17 <RogerHaase> Yes, the alert would suspend the execution. The mouse rollover tool tips are already in the code, but you have to uncomment the javascript lines to get the effect.
106 2010-06-01T18:08:01 *** kursor
107 2010-06-01T18:13:39 <dreimark> TheSheep: some of the actions should not need to load all the content in moin-2.0
108 2010-06-01T18:14:06 <dreimark> e.g. if you try action Load in moin-1.x then you need to wait until the page is loaded
109 2010-06-01T18:14:19 <dreimark> while you want to update the page from a file
110 2010-06-01T18:19:57 *** kursor
111 2010-06-01T18:26:35 *** DmitryAndreev
112 2010-06-01T18:45:34 *** valeuf
113 2010-06-01T19:12:01 *** valeuf
114 2010-06-01T20:19:49 <CIA-47> Dmitry Andreev <klieg.polar@gmail.com> default * 8235:7eaec29cad39 2.0-dev-wiki-rest-dandreev/MoinMoin/converter2/ (_tests/test_moinwiki_in_out.py moinwiki_out.py): DOM->Moinwiki converter: parameters of a link, more tests for Moinwiki->DOM->Moinwiki
115 2010-06-01T20:20:40 <TheSheep> dreimark: "all the content"?
116 2010-06-01T20:20:50 <TheSheep> dreimark: "content" is what is being displayed on the page
117 2010-06-01T20:21:03 <TheSheep> dreimark: not necessarily the page's text
118 2010-06-01T20:21:17 <dreimark> it loads all images of a page
119 2010-06-01T20:22:11 <dreimark> you have to wait until this is finished
120 2010-06-01T20:22:28 <dreimark> then it shows the dialog
121 2010-06-01T20:22:55 <TheSheep> not necessarily item's text
122 2010-06-01T20:23:41 * dreimark described the current behaviour for Load
123 2010-06-01T20:25:32 <dreimark> ei-grad: where is your daily commit or diary entry?
124 2010-06-01T20:26:42 *** diofeher
125 2010-06-01T20:26:44 *** TheSheep
126 2010-06-01T20:26:44 *** xorAxAx
127 2010-06-01T20:26:55 <dreimark> netsplit time
128 2010-06-01T20:26:57 <dreimark> bbl
129 2010-06-01T20:28:35 *** TheSheep
130 2010-06-01T20:32:52 <ThomasWaldmann> re
131 2010-06-01T20:36:00 *** xorAxAx
132 2010-06-01T20:37:24 *** diofeher
133 2010-06-01T21:14:47 *** ei-grad
134 2010-06-01T21:15:24 *** grad
135 2010-06-01T21:15:57 <grad> omg... weechat crashed again...
136 2010-06-01T21:16:02 *** grad
137 2010-06-01T21:16:05 <ei-grad> moin
138 2010-06-01T21:25:16 <ei-grad> sorry, worked on the project only 3 hours today, but tomorrow I will compensate this...
139 2010-06-01T21:26:35 *** DmitryAndreev
140 2010-06-01T21:31:34 *** ritinardo
141 2010-06-01T21:35:34 <ThomasWaldmann> weeeeeeeeee... :)
142 2010-06-01T21:55:28 *** DmitryAndreev
143 2010-06-01T23:24:17 *** ritinardo
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