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   3 2010-08-18T00:30:34  <CIA-105> transplant request.theme to flaskg.theme, see below
   4 2010-08-18T00:30:34  <CIA-105> maybe we can even remove it from flaskg.theme later and just put it into
   5 2010-08-18T00:30:34  <CIA-105> jinja2 environment
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  10 2010-08-18T02:13:34  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9656:5cc44a441bb7 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (10 files in 8 dirs):
  11 2010-08-18T02:13:34  <CIA-105> use flask's session, remove suid, fix login/logout, see below
  12 2010-08-18T02:13:34  <CIA-105> * replace usage of own (server side) session code by flask's (signed cookie
  13 2010-08-18T02:13:34  <CIA-105> client side) sessions
  14 2010-08-18T02:13:34  <CIA-105> * remove suid/setuid functionality (have a simple, basic functionality first,
  15 2010-08-18T02:13:34  <CIA-105> can be reimplemented later)
  16 2010-08-18T02:13:35  <CIA-105> * make login / logout work with flask's session
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  27 2010-08-18T11:26:28  <dreimark> moin
  28 2010-08-18T11:31:57  <esyr> moin
  29 2010-08-18T11:34:32  * dreimark suggest to use a date where i am not avail. but all others and i read backlogs afterwards 
  30 2010-08-18T11:35:19  <dreimark> or we start at e.g. 18:30 and continue to 19:30
  31 2010-08-18T11:35:27  <dreimark> so we have overlap
  32 2010-08-18T11:36:31  <dreimark> TheSheep: will that workout for the 19th?
  33 2010-08-18T11:39:10  <TheSheep> dreimark: I'm at work until 18 and then it takes about 30-45min to commute
  34 2010-08-18T11:39:41  <TheSheep> dreimark: I can be available from my phone on the tram, but then I won't be ery active
  35 2010-08-18T11:39:45  <TheSheep> very
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  37 2010-08-18T11:58:19  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: TheSheep: can you check tomorrow evening 18/19h?
  38 2010-08-18T11:59:09  <ThomasWaldmann> if one of you could be there later/earlier, we could have a complete meeting
  39 2010-08-18T12:01:38  <ThomasWaldmann> if it helps, we could also have 18:30
  40 2010-08-18T12:03:28  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: I can leave work early
  41 2010-08-18T12:03:39  <TheSheep> ThomasWaldmann: so tomorrow 18:00 is ok
  42 2010-08-18T12:10:13  <ThomasWaldmann> ok, thanks, so we have the meeting Thursday, 2010-08-19 16:00 UTC
  43 2010-08-18T12:10:45  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: esyr: TheSheep: waldi: xorAxAx: ^^
  44 2010-08-18T12:13:12  <waldi> set
  45 2010-08-18T12:20:37  <dreimark> :)
  46 2010-08-18T12:36:24  <ThomasWaldmann> typical length of a moin session cookie seems to be ~250 bytes now for trail-length 5 and rather short page names
  47 2010-08-18T12:45:37  <TheSheep> not horribly bad
  48 2010-08-18T12:53:48  <ThomasWaldmann> i guess some eastern scripts will have 3x of that, but still should work (up to 4096 IIRC)
  49 2010-08-18T12:57:19  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9657:0397a6f5f30f 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py: fix favicon.ico for browsers that ignore us telling it is at /static/favicon.ico
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  51 2010-08-18T13:32:07  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9658:1888b763e405 2.0-dev/wikiconfig.py: wikiconfig: add flask config values (with defaults), new recommendation for wikiconfig_local
  52 2010-08-18T13:50:04  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9659:c4813fa9d2fb 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 4 dirs): remove MoinMoin's (server based) session code and its config settings/cleanup script
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  54 2010-08-18T13:56:37  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9660:c461501cb086 2.0-dev/docs/config_examples/snippets/ (3 files): remove cookie/session stuff from sample configs
  55 2010-08-18T14:00:32  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/rev/d248634565a4 can you explain the upper part of it?
  56 2010-08-18T14:01:26  <ThomasWaldmann> (./wikiserver.py should do that already, if you use some other deployment script also, the script needs to get fixed)
  57 2010-08-18T14:02:12  <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: btw, how's your packaging stuff going?
  58 2010-08-18T14:03:00  <ThomasWaldmann> as logins work now, I guess we'll need a flatland package soon also
  59 2010-08-18T14:03:43  <ThomasWaldmann> (made from flatland repo tip, there are recent fixes for problems found by me)
  60 2010-08-18T14:05:42  <ThomasWaldmann> if that packaging stuff were working comfortably for developers, we maybe wouldn't need those sys.path hacks any more
  61 2010-08-18T14:14:03  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9661:3e6e5daab45a 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/auth/ (5 files): (log message trimmed)
  62 2010-08-18T14:14:03  <CIA-105> remove some unmaintained auth modules, details below
  63 2010-08-18T14:14:03  <CIA-105> These modules only got cosmetic fixes recently, but had no active developer
  64 2010-08-18T14:14:03  <CIA-105> caring for them:
  65 2010-08-18T14:14:03  <CIA-105> MoinMoin/auth/_PHPsessionParser.py
  66 2010-08-18T14:14:03  <CIA-105> MoinMoin/auth/cas.py
  67 2010-08-18T14:14:03  <CIA-105> MoinMoin/auth/mysql_group.py
  68 2010-08-18T14:16:12  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: it didn't for py.test. conftest.py is located in MoinMoin dir
  69 2010-08-18T14:17:10  <dreimark> tested ei-grads ou snippet. this has a problem http://paste.pocoo.org/show/251592/
  70 2010-08-18T14:17:20  <dreimark> will look later in detail
  71 2010-08-18T14:20:19  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9662:4d5101a18832 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/support/flatland/ (40 files in 11 dirs): add flatland lib (repo checkout at revision 269:6c5d262d7eff)
  72 2010-08-18T14:21:03  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: but only the lower part of your change addresses py.test, right? so what's the upper part for?
  73 2010-08-18T14:21:13  * dreimark mailed to ei-grad 
  74 2010-08-18T14:21:32  <dreimark> the upper part too
  75 2010-08-18T14:22:15  <ThomasWaldmann> looks somehow redundant :)
  76 2010-08-18T14:22:34  <dreimark> but it isn't, i have flask not as egg
  77 2010-08-18T14:23:01  <dreimark> id didn't tried the other way around may be only __init__ needs to be fixed
  78 2010-08-18T14:25:25  <dreimark> It isn't needed if wikiserver runs
  79 2010-08-18T14:25:37  <dreimark> so I thought it is because of some py.test import magic
  80 2010-08-18T14:36:35  <dreimark> the bad thing is that we need to control by conftest the order otherwise we don't have a changre to test our support libraries
  81 2010-08-18T14:38:46  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9663:67d2186b8e9f 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/userprefs/suid.py: really remove userprefs.suid
  82 2010-08-18T14:51:08  <dreimark> bbl
  83 2010-08-18T15:13:20  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: at work, are you using a proxy to connect to outside web servers?
  84 2010-08-18T15:13:40  <ThomasWaldmann> (or anyone else?)
  85 2010-08-18T15:22:20  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: not yet, but they want to establish that
  86 2010-08-18T15:22:29  <dreimark> btw. pro7 umts does
  87 2010-08-18T15:26:35  <ThomasWaldmann> right, but they do in a rather weird way :)
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  89 2010-08-18T15:39:50  <dreimark> htg bbl
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  94 2010-08-18T18:14:54  <ThomasWaldmann> apache/mod_wsgi is about 35-40reqs/s
  95 2010-08-18T18:15:16  <ThomasWaldmann> (for a simple/short wiki page)
  96 2010-08-18T18:19:24  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9664:30b70b8940bf 2.0-dev/docs/deployment_examples/moin.wsgi: fix moin.wsgi script so it works and is similar to wikiserver.py
  97 2010-08-18T18:19:26  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9665:80760830ad93 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/__init__.py: remove secret_key from MoinFlask class, it is in wikiconfig now
  98 2010-08-18T18:53:50  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9666:1c679e6d8e1c 2.0-dev/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
  99 2010-08-18T18:53:50  <CIA-105> creating wsgi apps: use a factory function MoinMoin.create_app(wikiconfig_filename)
 100 2010-08-18T18:53:50  <CIA-105> changed moin.wsgi and wikiserver.py accordingly
 101 2010-08-18T19:35:30  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9667:5653ea432052 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/__init__.py:
 102 2010-08-18T19:35:30  <CIA-105> create_app: flexible moin app configuration from config file, config dict, moin Config class, kwargs
 103 2010-08-18T19:35:30  <CIA-105> for details see MoinMoin.create_app docstring
 104 2010-08-18T19:36:25  <ThomasWaldmann> ^^ that can be used for testing differently configured moin apps
 105 2010-08-18T19:50:09  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9668:d1d7d5849143 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/__init__.py: MOINCFG environment var may point to the configuration file
 106 2010-08-18T20:17:36  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9669:176415330f98 2.0-dev/ (docs/deployment_examples/moin.wsgi wikiserver.py): add note about how to do wsgi wrapping
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 109 2010-08-18T22:01:06  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9670:68758049c94b 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/__init__.py: don't make create_app fail if MOINCFG env var is not set (and also no configfile given)
 110 2010-08-18T22:01:09  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9671:0649041fdff8 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/__init__.py: create_app: patch Config class attrs before instantiation
 111 2010-08-18T22:01:12  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9672:fd7afa2f1cfc 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): tests: fix preloaded_xml -> load_xml config attr name
 112 2010-08-18T22:01:24  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9673:9b865e7d0a60 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/_tests/wikiconfig.py: cleanup _tests/wikiconfig.py
 113 2010-08-18T22:01:30  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9674:614af2df418b 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/conftest.py: conftest: use create_app, give it the configuration wanted
 114 2010-08-18T22:15:24  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9675:c678cac1b81f 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/conftest.py: conftest: exclude some directories for test discovery
 115 2010-08-18T22:28:35  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9676:1bc5eba74b13 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (3 files in 2 dirs): pep8 fixes
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 117 2010-08-18T22:44:31  <CIA-105> Thomas Waldmann <tw AT waldmann-edv DOT de> default * 9677:c93b13240f4c 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (__init__.py conftest.py): cleaner sys.path hack (and at one place only)
 118 2010-08-18T22:44:32  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: ^^
 119 2010-08-18T22:44:40  <ThomasWaldmann> please test (works for me)
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 121 2010-08-18T22:49:35  <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, wait, found more stuff to kill :)
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 124 2010-08-18T23:17:05  <dreimark> re
 125 2010-08-18T23:17:59  <dreimark> ei-grad: do you got my mail?
 126 2010-08-18T23:19:01  <ei-grad> dreimark: just opened mail client
 127 2010-08-18T23:19:54  <ei-grad> hm... don't see it, when you sent it?
 128 2010-08-18T23:21:37  <dreimark> ei-grad: at 2:20 PM
 129 2010-08-18T23:21:49  <dreimark> to andrew <andrew@ei-grad.ru>
 130 2010-08-18T23:21:59  <dreimark> Hi Andrew
 131 2010-08-18T23:21:59  <dreimark> I tried
 132 2010-08-18T23:21:59  <dreimark> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9-ldap-kerberos-agrigorev/file/f179b2eb3407/wiki/config/more_samples/ldap_ougroups_wikiconfig_snippet
 133 2010-08-18T23:22:03  <dreimark> and got a traceback, see http://paste.pocoo.org/show/251592/
 134 2010-08-18T23:22:05  <dreimark> Can you have please a look at it.
 135 2010-08-18T23:22:18  <dreimark> Thx
 136 2010-08-18T23:22:19  <dreimark> Reimar
 137 2010-08-18T23:23:02  <ei-grad> gmail put it in spam...
 138 2010-08-18T23:23:21  <dreimark> arg, i guess you have more mails from me in spam then
 139 2010-08-18T23:24:04  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: py.test runs too. but we need a better solution and in conftest not in __init__.
 140 2010-08-18T23:24:33  <dreimark> otherwise noon could easy change supported libs to some other installed
 141 2010-08-18T23:33:11  <ei-grad> sorry, it looks like I paid not enough attention, I'll look at this in more detail... I wanted to check how moinmoin will work with Novell Directory Server, but has not yet been able to install it...
 142 2010-08-18T23:34:52  <ThomasWaldmann> http://bitbucket.org/hpk42/pytest-tutorial1/raw/tip/pytest-basic.pdf < pycon 2010 py.test tutorial
 143 2010-08-18T23:35:42  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: __init__ is a good place
 144 2010-08-18T23:36:01  <ThomasWaldmann> because one imports that anyway, and usually rather soon
 145 2010-08-18T23:36:42  <ThomasWaldmann> and the only upcoming change to MoinMoin.support is maybe getting rid of it :)
 146 2010-08-18T23:39:06  <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: in the past it was not required to use our support libraries
 147 2010-08-18T23:39:31  <ThomasWaldmann> see the code i removed
 148 2010-08-18T23:39:47  <ThomasWaldmann> (and it isn't now either)
 149 2010-08-18T23:40:44  <ThomasWaldmann> that tutorial has some nice py.test stuff :)
 150 2010-08-18T23:41:16  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, I currently guess we have to rewrite or trash quite some tests
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 152 2010-08-18T23:43:36  <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: I am just back from Berlin tonight, I am leaving for South Korea next monday, but I will look for packaging tomorrow I will have time
 153 2010-08-18T23:43:55  <valeuf> I'd like to create a package before I left for Korea, so I can let people test it and give me a feedback
 154 2010-08-18T23:45:51  <CIA-36> Andrew Grigorev <andrew@ei-grad.ru> default * 5816:5e6c225b02ff 1.9-ldap-kerberos-agrigorev/docs/CHANGES.ei-grad: [LDAP2010] added changes
 155 2010-08-18T23:46:06  <CIA-36> Andrew Grigorev <andrew@ei-grad.ru> default * 5817:aa9720d4da04 1.9-ldap-kerberos-agrigorev/wiki/config/more_samples/ldap_ougroups_wikiconfig_snippet: [LDAP2010] fixed error in ldap_ougroups_wikiconfig_snippet
 156 2010-08-18T23:47:59  <ThomasWaldmann> valeuf: lots on the road/in the air :)
 157 2010-08-18T23:48:37  * ThomasWaldmann looks forward to developer- and user-friendly packages :)
 158 2010-08-18T23:49:05  <valeuf> ThomasWaldmann: ah ah ah yes, a little bit moving, I love travel:)
 159 2010-08-18T23:49:23  <valeuf> but semester start on September 1st, so I will be more serious after :)
 160 2010-08-18T23:49:37  <valeuf> but I keep an eyes on IRC don't worry

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