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  13 2010-09-28T17:35:50  <RogerHaase> TheSheep: Any more ideas on css smilies?  The best I came up with is http://www.digitalrockart.org/test.html.
  14 2010-09-28T17:37:47  <ThomasWaldmann> hi roger
  15 2010-09-28T17:37:49  <RogerHaase> The color: transparent fixes the 1-pixel artifact displayed by Safari and Chrome.  I think they have one more pixel of space to the right of the smiley than to the left.
  16 2010-09-28T17:37:59  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: moin
  17 2010-09-28T17:38:10  <ThomasWaldmann> btw, i yesterday found lots of unicode 6.0 "smileys"
  18 2010-09-28T17:38:40  <aa_> RogerHaase: very cool
  19 2010-09-28T17:38:48  <aa_> RogerHaase: may I tweet it?
  20 2010-09-28T17:39:05  <RogerHaase> aa_: sure
  21 2010-09-28T17:39:26  <aa_> RogerHaase: have a twitter name I can link?
  22 2010-09-28T17:40:14  <RogerHaase> No, I am too old to tweet :)
  23 2010-09-28T17:40:36  <aa_> RogerHaase: ok, but you can't be as old as me or ThomasWaldmann /me ducks
  24 2010-09-28T17:41:43  <ThomasWaldmann> :P
  25 2010-09-28T17:42:05  <dreimark> aa_: do you be older than ThomasWaldmann or me ?
  26 2010-09-28T17:42:21  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: we maybe could also move the smiley stuff near to the linktype icon stuff, that is almost implemented in the same way
  27 2010-09-28T17:42:34  <RogerHaase> The moin-text-icon class is a toss-up between less css and more html.  I lead toward dropping it and using only one class.
  28 2010-09-28T17:43:52  <RogerHaase> lead/lean
  29 2010-09-28T17:44:00  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. a.www etc.
  30 2010-09-28T17:45:06  <ThomasWaldmann> (currently it is somehow at opposite ends of common.css for no special reason)
  31 2010-09-28T17:45:35  <ThomasWaldmann> RogerHaase: btw, seen your changeset, will try it later today and merge
  32 2010-09-28T17:47:57  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: Yes to moving it closer.  In the changeset, the smileys are just above the www stuff and the Flash messages (also similar) follow that.
  33 2010-09-28T17:49:50  <ThomasWaldmann> ok
  34 2010-09-28T17:52:05  <RogerHaase> ThomasWaldmann: Yes I saw the unicode smileys. A good option, but I think many people will prefer color. Although you could make the unicode icons a solid color.
  35 2010-09-28T18:11:48  <dreimark> icons png or svg images ?
  36 2010-09-28T18:25:51  <aa_> dreimark: I am guessing I am of a similar age, though I made a pact with satan as a child to stay young-looking
  37 2010-09-28T18:26:58  <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: svg would be cool, but i fear lots of trouble with bad browsers
  38 2010-09-28T18:27:10  <ThomasWaldmann> or browser's bad svg code rather
  39 2010-09-28T18:34:07  <dreimark> hmm I wonder if we can't set the background for an unicode smiley
  40 2010-09-28T18:34:38  <ThomasWaldmann> sure, but foreground maybe looks better
  41 2010-09-28T18:35:59  <dreimark> http://moinmo.in/HelpOnSmileys the current set has as background color mostly only
  42 2010-09-28T18:36:19  <dreimark> or only 2 colors
  43 2010-09-28T18:38:11  <dreimark> bbl
  44 2010-09-28T19:29:51  <RogerHaase> I noticed that everywhere else in common.css where :before ... content: is used to place an image, width and height are not specified.  Should width & height be dropped from smilies or added everywhere else?
  45 2010-09-28T20:36:24  <ThomasWaldmann> hmm, how about translated navibar links, do we need that for moin2?
  46 2010-09-28T20:37:00  <ThomasWaldmann> the "action-like" stuff we had in moin 1.9 isn't any more in navibar
  47 2010-09-28T20:37:49  <ThomasWaldmann> (like RecentChanges pagelink, that is a (translated) action menu entry now, FindPage won't come back either as a page)
  48 2010-09-28T20:42:01  <dreimark> hmm, one bar less saves space. i think we should have a sidebar
  49 2010-09-28T20:42:23  <dreimark> one could add some "navibar" links there if he wants
  50 2010-09-28T20:42:28  <ThomasWaldmann> that might be true, but that wasn't the question
  51 2010-09-28T20:43:02  <ThomasWaldmann> the q was about TRANSLATED navibar links
  52 2010-09-28T20:46:20  <dreimark> depends on what we will have there.
  53 2010-09-28T20:48:57  <dreimark> at the moment i would say we don't
  54 2010-09-28T20:49:45  <ThomasWaldmann> admin-configured items wouldn't be translated then either
  55 2010-09-28T20:49:56  <ThomasWaldmann> e.g. FrontPage -> StartSeite
  56 2010-09-28T20:50:11  <ThomasWaldmann> but maybe that feature caused more trouble than good anyway
  57 2010-09-28T20:51:42  <ThomasWaldmann> anyone else?
  58 2010-09-28T20:51:49  <dreimark> it is only usefull if all pages were translated then
  59 2010-09-28T20:52:15  <dreimark> some people do use this
  60 2010-09-28T20:52:15  <ThomasWaldmann> or at least the linked ones
  61 2010-09-28T20:53:31  <dreimark> on a master wiki we may be want it too
  62 2010-09-28T20:54:08  <dreimark> some essential pages could be in navibar
  63 2010-09-28T20:54:27  <ThomasWaldmann> we need (and have) better stuff for master wikis
  64 2010-09-28T21:10:32  <CIA-36> RogerHaase <crosseyedpenguin@yahoo.com> default * 10051:42e9fc9d4c51 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/themes/modernized/static/css/ (common.css msie.css print.css projection.css screen.css): Reorg of modernized theme css; minor corrections to text formatting, lists, hr, smileys, etc.
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  66 2010-09-28T21:35:45  <dreimark> edit war on MM
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  68 2010-09-28T22:26:08  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 5713:32811373ffa1 1.9/MoinMoin/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
  69 2010-09-28T22:26:08  <CIA-36> action.SlideShow: feature PrintableSinglePageSlideshows implemented
  70 2010-09-28T22:26:08  <CIA-36> * "print" control on the slideshow which shows all the slides on one page
  71 2010-09-28T22:26:08  <CIA-36> * the CSS makes sure that each h1 element appears after a page break
  72 2010-09-28T22:26:08  <CIA-36> This makes it easy to deliver PDF format slides (thanks to Paul Boddie for the patch)
  73 2010-09-28T22:26:08  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 5714:1d6b03baf499 1.9/MoinMoin/action/SlideShow.py: action.SlideShow: fix bug MoinMoinBugs/SinglePageSlideShowAndParserMarkup (thanks to Paul Boddie for the patch)
  74 2010-09-28T22:29:42  <CIA-36> Reimar Bauer <rb.proj AT googlemail DOT com> default * 5715:da7fed3ec62f 1.9/docs/CHANGES: CHANGES: updated
  75 2010-09-28T22:46:26  <dreimark> gn
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