1 2011-01-04T00:27:12 *** m4k3r
2 2011-01-04T00:36:38 *** grzywacz
3 2011-01-04T00:47:03 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: i cannot find underline, superscript and subscript on the rst markup specification page.. should i just make a not?? i cannot make a todo as it is not a moin shortcoming
4 2011-01-04T00:47:18 <achshar> make a note*
5 2011-01-04T00:50:59 <achshar> other doc meaning the one you gave me the link to?
6 2011-01-04T00:51:18 <achshar> sorry the pm window shows 'Can't use this command in this window'
7 2011-01-04T00:51:54 <ThomasWaldmann> creolewiki and mediawiki.rst
8 2011-01-04T00:52:04 <mihai_> ThomasWaldmann: hm..
9 2011-01-04T00:52:10 <achshar> hmm
10 2011-01-04T00:52:26 <ThomasWaldmann> mihai_: we'll talk tomorrow
11 2011-01-04T00:52:30 <mihai_> ThomasWaldmann: I fixed the mistakes but nobody closed the first task
12 2011-01-04T00:52:32 <mihai_> ok
13 2011-01-04T00:52:36 <mihai_> ...
14 2011-01-04T00:53:53 <mihai_> you could have accepted at least the first and second task...and tomorrow you would review the remaining 220 strings...
15 2011-01-04T00:54:10 <mihai_> ThomasWaldmann: what do u say?
16 2011-01-04T00:54:39 <ThomasWaldmann> mihai_: we'll talk tomorrow
17 2011-01-04T00:56:35 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: actually code, underline, superscript, subscript smaller larger and stroke.. everything except bold and italics has no reference in rst documentation.. and from what i can see in creolewiki.rst, on line 70 there is just a todo, but i have to make todo only for something that does not work in moin.. so that leaves me with a note.. what say?
18 2011-01-04T00:59:20 <izibi> could someone please review my submission? i'd like to do another task :)
19 2011-01-04T00:59:49 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: sorry about delays, but i was (and am) a bit unexpectedly busy
20 2011-01-04T01:00:05 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: url?
21 2011-01-04T01:00:14 <izibi> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129398637566
22 2011-01-04T01:04:28 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: pulling
23 2011-01-04T01:04:52 <ThomasWaldmann> added 5 changesets with 20 changes to 10 files
24 2011-01-04T01:04:54 <ThomasWaldmann> abort: untracked file in working directory differs from file in requested revision: 'MoinMoin/translations/de/LC_MESSAGES/messages.po'
25 2011-01-04T01:04:59 <ThomasWaldmann> hm?
26 2011-01-04T01:06:23 <ThomasWaldmann> ignore, maybe my fault
27 2011-01-04T01:06:41 <izibi> looks like you've updated the german language file ;)
28 2011-01-04T01:08:23 <ThomasWaldmann> not recently
29 2011-01-04T01:08:35 <ThomasWaldmann> but i played with babel some time ago, maybe a remainder of that
30 2011-01-04T01:11:13 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: vv
31 2011-01-04T01:11:23 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10210:d953860a80f4 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (templates/show.html themes/modernized/static/css/screen.css): Moved moin-pageinfo to the footer.
32 2011-01-04T01:11:30 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10211:1feb55f86a58 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
33 2011-01-04T01:11:30 <CIA-56> * Added tags to metadata in the footer
34 2011-01-04T01:11:30 <CIA-56> * Reformatted credits to use bullet char as seperator
35 2011-01-04T01:11:30 <CIA-56> * Removed surrounding spaces from editor_info macro
36 2011-01-04T01:11:30 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10212:e3a3f3428380 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Added MoinMoin and Python logos to the footer.
37 2011-01-04T01:11:30 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10213:45ffa9557ee9 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (5 files in 4 dirs):
38 2011-01-04T01:11:31 <CIA-56> Added template_dirs config option which allows easy overriding of templates.
39 2011-01-04T01:11:31 <CIA-56> And added a license.html template for displaying some information about the
40 2011-01-04T01:11:32 <CIA-56> license in the footer which can be easily overridden using template_dirs.
41 2011-01-04T01:11:42 <CIA-56> Julian Brost <julian.brost@googlemail.com> default * 10214:90baaabbafca 2.0-dev/MoinMoin/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
42 2011-01-04T01:11:42 <CIA-56> Moved all snippets to the snippets.html template.
43 2011-01-04T01:11:42 <CIA-56> * Removed license.html and added a macro in snippets.html
44 2011-01-04T01:11:42 <CIA-56> * Moved credits and creditlogos to snippets.html
45 2011-01-04T01:11:43 <CIA-56> * Removed credits option from the default config
46 2011-01-04T01:11:43 <CIA-56> * Disabled autoescaping by select_jinja_autoescape instead of overriding
47 2011-01-04T01:11:44 <CIA-56> jinja_options which disabled the default Jinja2 extensions
48 2011-01-04T01:17:09 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: when i put /SubPage without any '[' then there is no link but the 1.9 help page says that this should produce a hyper link.. is this the case where i am suppose to make a todo? this is my first one so i should ask just this time
49 2011-01-04T01:18:14 <ThomasWaldmann> make a note about this, yes
50 2011-01-04T01:19:58 <achshar> but there is a contradiction.. the moin2 help page does not say that '/SubPage' would create a link.. so what do i have to confirm? the 1.9 page or 2.0 page?
51 2011-01-04T01:21:08 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: the local moin2 help page is at http://127.0.0.1:8080/moin#Internal_Links
52 2011-01-04T01:21:47 <ThomasWaldmann> for migration issues, it would be good to considers the moin 1.9 page. because this might be stuff we have to fix or change at migration time.
53 2011-01-04T01:22:13 <ThomasWaldmann> so do not tell it is a bug, but rather MOINTODO: check /SubPage markup
54 2011-01-04T01:22:24 <achshar> hmm okiee :)
55 2011-01-04T01:22:48 <ThomasWaldmann> that one is btw likely because we'll try to drop CamelCase stuff
56 2011-01-04T01:23:07 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: thx
57 2011-01-04T01:23:24 <ThomasWaldmann> congrats to first task :)
58 2011-01-04T01:23:25 <izibi> btw: why the hell is the student signup form that long? :D
59 2011-01-04T01:23:31 <izibi> thanks
60 2011-01-04T01:23:42 <izibi> so now, programming or translating? ;)
61 2011-01-04T01:24:13 <achshar> izibi: they have to give us a shirt and a hundred bucks.. that;s the least they can ask for :P
62 2011-01-04T01:24:23 <ThomasWaldmann> don't complain, if you are the one who registers an org, and org admin and mentor, you have 3 forms :P
63 2011-01-04T01:24:38 <achshar> hahaha :D:D
64 2011-01-04T01:24:42 <izibi> xD
65 2011-01-04T01:24:52 <dreimark> yeah
66 2011-01-04T01:25:24 <ThomasWaldmann> and if you see the tax form from the IRS the first time, that is WTF anyway
67 2011-01-04T01:25:57 <ThomasWaldmann> (or rather the "no tax" form)
68 2011-01-04T01:27:09 <izibi> bureaucracy FTW xD
69 2011-01-04T01:29:42 <ThomasWaldmann> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129270131230#c17001 oops
70 2011-01-04T01:30:22 <ThomasWaldmann> looks like student didn't care for deadline
71 2011-01-04T01:31:22 <dreimark> also not on comments
72 2011-01-04T01:31:45 <dreimark> he could have rejected earlier, may be he is busy
73 2011-01-04T01:31:56 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: thx (claim accepted)
74 2011-01-04T01:35:12 *** jacktheripper
75 2011-01-04T01:35:21 <izibi> MoinMoin feels unhappy. <-- wtf? :D
76 2011-01-04T01:35:46 <ThomasWaldmann> == crash
77 2011-01-04T01:36:00 <dreimark> not now
78 2011-01-04T01:36:12 <jacktheripper> ThomasWaldmann, you recorded the previous counts right ? I'm about to submit what I did for now (it's getting late here and I need to go :D).
79 2011-01-04T01:36:46 <ThomasWaldmann> jacktheripper: submit to the wiki, and the counts can be seen in wiki history
80 2011-01-04T01:36:51 <jacktheripper> oh yeah
81 2011-01-04T01:37:24 <dreimark> gn
82 2011-01-04T01:37:57 <jacktheripper> not allowed to edit
83 2011-01-04T01:39:36 <jacktheripper> ThomasWaldmann, ^ my account is GeorgeStephanos on the wiki
84 2011-01-04T01:41:12 <ThomasWaldmann> add yourself to MoinPagesEditorGroup
85 2011-01-04T01:41:27 <ThomasWaldmann> (on master19)
86 2011-01-04T01:44:50 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: i wanted to show you what i have done till now and make sure it is how you want it to be.. can i do it now?
87 2011-01-04T01:47:00 <ThomasWaldmann> yes, use paste.pocoo.org
88 2011-01-04T01:48:49 <achshar> i cannot see rst in the format list.. what should i select? i havent used pocoo before :(
89 2011-01-04T01:49:18 <achshar> oh no wait it is there :O
90 2011-01-04T01:49:35 <jacktheripper> lol 13 done. http://master19.moinmo.in/MoinI18n/ar
91 2011-01-04T01:49:37 <jacktheripper> gn folks!
92 2011-01-04T01:49:59 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/314114/
93 2011-01-04T01:50:38 *** jacktheripper
94 2011-01-04T01:55:12 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: the attachment: syntax is not needed any more (moin2 does not have attachments)
95 2011-01-04T01:55:35 <achshar> oh.. hmm kzz
96 2011-01-04T01:55:44 <ThomasWaldmann> it might emulate them. the 1.9 > 2 converter creates subitems for attachments
97 2011-01-04T01:56:06 <ThomasWaldmann> so [[attachment:foo.txt]] is same as [[/foo.txt]]
98 2011-01-04T01:56:30 <achshar> hmm makes much more sense :)
99 2011-01-04T01:57:05 <achshar> what about everything else? is it cool? i have never worked with rst before :O
100 2011-01-04T02:00:53 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: ^^
101 2011-01-04T02:06:37 <ThomasWaldmann> the stuff that is not really supported by rst, did the other docs handle it in the same way or did they find some workaround?
102 2011-01-04T02:08:30 <achshar> they said it in a RSTTODO comment
103 2011-01-04T02:09:00 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: line 70 of this file http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/2.0-dev/file/42d8cde592fb/docs/user/creolewiki.rst
104 2011-01-04T02:12:14 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: mediawiki.rst has something like :strikethrough:`strikethrough` but it is not recoganised
105 2011-01-04T02:12:58 <achshar> does not work when i submit here http://www.tele3.cz/jbar/rest/rest.html the renderer was linked to on the official rst page
106 2011-01-04T02:14:23 <achshar> http://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html#try-it-online here
107 2011-01-04T02:18:15 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
108 2011-01-04T02:18:22 <ThomasWaldmann> otherwise it looks ok so far
109 2011-01-04T02:18:53 <achshar> :D:D
110 2011-01-04T02:21:55 <izibi> msgid " " <-- wtf? does this really have to be translated?
111 2011-01-04T02:21:59 <izibi> :D
112 2011-01-04T02:24:58 <izibi> msgstr "LEERZEICHEN" ? ;)
113 2011-01-04T02:26:51 *** mihai_
114 2011-01-04T02:28:16 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: [MeatBall:InterWiki|InterWiki page on MeatBall]] what does this do?? it does not work on moin 2 and is given in 1.9 help page,, it is a mistake?? shouldnt there me two bracets in the begning?
115 2011-01-04T02:28:53 <achshar> also why is it in the external link heading when it produces an internal link?
116 2011-01-04T02:31:03 <achshar> both the help pages show it the same way with just one bracket where as it works with two.. you might want to correct that :O
117 2011-01-04T02:35:59 <achshar> i have a confusion regarding how the interwiki links work.. the links point to http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?InterWiki and then get redirected.. how do i get the first link which is to be in the html in the rst file?
118 2011-01-04T03:22:02 <izibi> #: MoinMoin/templates/show.html:48
119 2011-01-04T03:22:02 <izibi> msgid "This item, but not revision, exists."
120 2011-01-04T03:22:14 <izibi> this sounds wrong
121 2011-01-04T03:24:30 <izibi> shall i replace it with "This item, but no revisions, exists."?
122 2011-01-04T03:34:39 *** achshar
123 2011-01-04T03:50:37 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: yes
124 2011-01-04T04:07:48 <izibi> #: MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py:932
125 2011-01-04T04:07:48 <izibi> msgid "Publish my email (not my wiki homepage) in author info"
126 2011-01-04T04:08:02 <izibi> what does the (not my wiki homepage) mean? makes no sense imo
127 2011-01-04T04:16:29 <izibi> and what is a regular expression subscription?
128 2011-01-04T05:24:53 *** endofgci
129 2011-01-04T05:25:04 *** endofgci_
130 2011-01-04T05:25:44 *** endofgci
131 2011-01-04T05:26:19 *** endofgci
132 2011-01-04T06:20:59 *** izibi
133 2011-01-04T08:08:20 *** greg_f
134 2011-01-04T09:23:06 *** NikitaUtiu
135 2011-01-04T09:47:02 *** ronny
136 2011-01-04T09:47:02 *** franklin
137 2011-01-04T09:47:04 *** TripleEntendre
138 2011-01-04T09:47:04 *** Kapace
139 2011-01-04T09:47:05 *** rfw
140 2011-01-04T09:47:05 *** ChanServ
141 2011-01-04T09:47:06 *** vpv
142 2011-01-04T09:47:06 *** eSyr_
143 2011-01-04T09:47:06 *** waldi
144 2011-01-04T09:47:06 *** endofgci
145 2011-01-04T09:47:07 *** valeuf
146 2011-01-04T09:47:07 *** xjjk
147 2011-01-04T09:47:08 *** NikitaUtiu
148 2011-01-04T09:47:08 *** greg_f
149 2011-01-04T09:47:09 *** CIA-56
150 2011-01-04T09:47:10 *** xorAxAx
151 2011-01-04T09:47:11 *** ThomasWaldmann
152 2011-01-04T09:47:12 *** diofeher
153 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** NikitaUtiu
154 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** greg_f
155 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** endofgci
156 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** rfw
157 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** CIA-56
158 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** TripleEntendre
159 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** Kapace
160 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** franklin
161 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** ronny
162 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** vpv
163 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** xjjk
164 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** eSyr_
165 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** waldi
166 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** ChanServ
167 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** valeuf
168 2011-01-04T09:47:42 *** barjavel.freenode.net
169 2011-01-04T09:48:01 *** diofeher
170 2011-01-04T09:48:06 *** ThomasWaldmann
171 2011-01-04T09:48:45 *** xorAxAx
172 2011-01-04T09:50:25 *** NikitaUtiu
173 2011-01-04T09:50:26 *** NikitaUtiu
174 2011-01-04T10:35:54 *** m4k3r
175 2011-01-04T10:38:34 *** Samm
176 2011-01-04T10:40:31 *** rfw
177 2011-01-04T11:25:44 *** endofgci
178 2011-01-04T11:46:19 *** maker__
179 2011-01-04T11:46:40 *** m4k3r
180 2011-01-04T11:55:37 *** gh_ju
181 2011-01-04T11:57:04 *** NikitaUtiu
182 2011-01-04T12:12:18 *** NikitaUtiu
183 2011-01-04T12:12:48 <NikitaUtiu> moin
184 2011-01-04T12:13:01 <NikitaUtiu> ThomasWaldmann: have you checked my code?
185 2011-01-04T13:44:41 *** mihai_
186 2011-01-04T14:16:54 *** jacktheripper
187 2011-01-04T14:25:42 *** mihai_
188 2011-01-04T14:48:41 *** ruxy
189 2011-01-04T14:49:36 *** ruxy
190 2011-01-04T15:02:24 *** mihai_
191 2011-01-04T15:02:36 <mihai_> moin
192 2011-01-04T15:04:57 <mihai_> dreimark: ping
193 2011-01-04T15:05:08 <mihai_> ThomasWaldmann: ping?
194 2011-01-04T15:10:57 *** NikitaUtiu
195 2011-01-04T15:26:37 *** NikitaUtiu
196 2011-01-04T15:28:32 <NikitaUtiu> moin
197 2011-01-04T15:51:33 <jacktheripper> ThomasWaldmann, am I to translate strings like (( Argument \"%s\" must be a boolean value, not \"%s\" )) ?
198 2011-01-04T15:59:47 <ThomasWaldmann> jacktheripper: yes (but check that it is understandable :)
199 2011-01-04T16:00:07 <jacktheripper> sure lol.
200 2011-01-04T16:00:24 <mihai_> ThomasWaldmann: hi
201 2011-01-04T16:20:02 *** mihaii
202 2011-01-04T16:20:08 <mihaii> ThomasWaldmann: srry
203 2011-01-04T16:21:42 *** mihai_
204 2011-01-04T16:32:10 <jacktheripper> ThomasWaldmann, are these arguments like function arguments ?
205 2011-01-04T16:33:45 *** izibi
206 2011-01-04T16:36:45 <ThomasWaldmann> jacktheripper: %s is a string placeholder and gets filled in by the code
207 2011-01-04T16:36:58 <jacktheripper> not that.
208 2011-01-04T16:37:02 <ThomasWaldmann> %(foo)s is also a string placeholder, a named one
209 2011-01-04T16:37:02 <jacktheripper> I meant the 'argument' in the string
210 2011-01-04T16:37:15 <jacktheripper> 'Argument' must be a boolean value
211 2011-01-04T16:37:25 <ThomasWaldmann> Argument is a word
212 2011-01-04T16:37:40 <jacktheripper> yes I want to know what it means in MoinMoin
213 2011-01-04T16:37:42 <ThomasWaldmann> you may translate it if there is a better word for that in your language
214 2011-01-04T16:37:57 <jacktheripper> it might have a few translations.
215 2011-01-04T16:38:00 <ThomasWaldmann> the whole thing is about macro arguments
216 2011-01-04T16:38:46 <ThomasWaldmann> if there is a macro <<M(x)>> and it expects x to be boolean, but the user doesn't have something boolean at the place of x, you'll get this error
217 2011-01-04T16:39:17 <jacktheripper> oh that's what I expect. But for things that don't have a suitable word in arabic, can I leave the word as it is ?
218 2011-01-04T16:39:20 *** mihaii
219 2011-01-04T16:41:16 <jacktheripper> I mean, an arab who's into programming/macros would definitely know what an argument is.
220 2011-01-04T16:42:10 <TheSheep> jacktheripper: how do the programming books translate it usually?
221 2011-01-04T16:42:19 <jacktheripper> they don't
222 2011-01-04T16:42:25 <jacktheripper> lol
223 2011-01-04T16:42:40 <TheSheep> jacktheripper: so you have to constantly switch between rtl and ltr?
224 2011-01-04T16:42:47 <TheSheep> jacktheripper: must be very tiring
225 2011-01-04T16:42:54 <jacktheripper> arabic programming books are half english.
226 2011-01-04T16:42:57 <jacktheripper> oh yes I have to
227 2011-01-04T16:43:07 <jacktheripper> not too tiring. got used to it.
228 2011-01-04T16:44:41 <ThomasWaldmann> jacktheripper: understandability rules :) so if it is better understandable if left english, choose english
229 2011-01-04T16:44:54 <jacktheripper> ah good.
230 2011-01-04T16:45:22 * ThomasWaldmann had read stuff that was thoroughly translated to german and had to translate it back to english first to understand what they mean. :)
231 2011-01-04T16:46:02 <jacktheripper> lol that happens here too
232 2011-01-04T16:46:39 <ThomasWaldmann> like if one translates "drag and drop" to "ziehen und uebergeben", this is just funny (because "uebergeben" also can mean "to puke"), but not really helpful.
233 2011-01-04T16:47:17 <jacktheripper> xD
234 2011-01-04T16:54:23 *** ju2gle
235 2011-01-04T16:57:47 <izibi> in the default configuration, there is the key supplementation_item_names with the default value [u'Discussion',]. shall i add a translation for this as this also references a page name?
236 2011-01-04T17:03:28 *** ju2gle
237 2011-01-04T17:04:31 *** ju2gle
238 2011-01-04T17:10:29 *** achshar
239 2011-01-04T17:22:06 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: no, don't translate this
240 2011-01-04T17:23:05 <ThomasWaldmann> it doesn't necessarily help if a german user gets (for the same main page) another discussion subpage than an english user
241 2011-01-04T17:23:17 <ThomasWaldmann> helpful*
242 2011-01-04T17:23:36 <ThomasWaldmann> ehrm, no. but you get what I mean. %)
243 2011-01-04T17:27:31 *** kursor
244 2011-01-04T17:28:51 <izibi> "Publish my email (not my wiki homepage) in author info" <-- not my wiki homepage? what does this mean?
245 2011-01-04T17:30:02 <ThomasWaldmann> if you edit a page, your edit will show up in history of that page and also on recent changes (global history)
246 2011-01-04T17:30:21 <ThomasWaldmann> usually it will link to your wiki homepage there (page with same name as your user)
247 2011-01-04T17:30:35 <ThomasWaldmann> but by selecting that option, you can have a mailto: link there
248 2011-01-04T17:31:06 <ThomasWaldmann> not sure if that already works in moin2, but sooner or later, it should
249 2011-01-04T17:31:31 <izibi> ah ok, instead of the wiki homepage
250 2011-01-04T17:35:01 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: yes, it already works ;)
251 2011-01-04T17:43:53 <ThomasWaldmann> ah, even better :)
252 2011-01-04T17:43:56 *** ju2gle
253 2011-01-04T17:44:26 <izibi> http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/show/google/gci2010/moinmoin/t129398637031 submitted
254 2011-01-04T17:44:29 <izibi> afk
255 2011-01-04T17:44:32 *** ju2gle
256 2011-01-04T17:46:32 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: how do i document the table of contents syntax..?? maybe i could just show the markup
257 2011-01-04T17:46:36 <achshar> bte hello!
258 2011-01-04T17:46:45 <achshar> btw*
259 2011-01-04T17:54:16 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: also for ordered list, the numbers and alphabets increase automatically which is not possible in rst, i could not find others did it so i will manually increase the numbers/alphabets/romans
260 2011-01-04T17:55:31 <izibi> back
261 2011-01-04T18:08:28 *** ju2gle
262 2011-01-04T18:09:36 *** ju2gle
263 2011-01-04T18:09:47 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: xorAxAx: can you have a look at izibi's submission?
264 2011-01-04T18:13:02 *** Samm
265 2011-01-04T18:14:31 *** ju2gle
266 2011-01-04T18:17:41 *** Samm
267 2011-01-04T18:20:37 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: soon
268 2011-01-04T18:22:59 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: i dont think rst would be a very good idea for the documentation, as we will not be able to show diffrent widthhorizontal rules, text and background color and evrything that we have discussed yet..
269 2011-01-04T18:24:51 <achshar> which includes ordered list and the text formating like underline, stroke, super-subscript, larger and smaller fornts etc
270 2011-01-04T18:25:11 <achshar> i will document everything else for now.. :)
271 2011-01-04T18:32:14 *** greg_f
272 2011-01-04T18:40:35 *** grzywacz
273 2011-01-04T18:53:00 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: yeah, there are quite some issues. but if we want to have that stuff in sphinx docs, we need to use rst.
274 2011-01-04T18:53:29 <achshar> hmm i just found another.. minimal and maximal table cell width
275 2011-01-04T18:54:12 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: btw it does not work on moin 2. but is there on moin 2 help page.. starnge :O
276 2011-01-04T18:58:02 <ThomasWaldmann> moin2 converters still need quite some work :)
277 2011-01-04T18:59:00 <achshar> hmmm
278 2011-01-04T19:05:23 <jacktheripper> ThomasWaldmann, can I get the check to know an entry isn't fuzzy ?
279 2011-01-04T19:05:40 <jacktheripper> the fuzz count looks wrong lol
280 2011-01-04T19:09:29 <ThomasWaldmann> jacktheripper: hm?
281 2011-01-04T19:09:51 <jacktheripper> an entry is correct, but it's tagged fuzzy.
282 2011-01-04T19:10:04 <ThomasWaldmann> fuzzy means you have to check
283 2011-01-04T19:10:13 <ThomasWaldmann> it may be correct, it may be incorrect
284 2011-01-04T19:10:23 <ThomasWaldmann> if you made sure it is correct, remove fuzzy marker.
285 2011-01-04T19:10:24 <jacktheripper> and if it's correct I untag it ?
286 2011-01-04T19:10:28 <ThomasWaldmann> yup
287 2011-01-04T19:10:28 <jacktheripper> oh ok ok
288 2011-01-04T19:15:24 *** kursor
289 2011-01-04T19:17:13 <dreimark> re
290 2011-01-04T19:28:45 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: now how should i do comments, syntax highlighting, admonitions and background colors.. i am almost done with other stuff..
291 2011-01-04T19:29:23 <achshar> oh and diffrent width horizontal rules
292 2011-01-04T19:30:50 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: is that the german translation task?
293 2011-01-04T19:32:39 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: in any case you can show how the markup needs to be. if you can't show it with rst, then don't. Check if it is a RST spec problem, a moin RST converter problem, a sphinx RST problem and put some TODO with the results of that check.
294 2011-01-04T19:33:01 <ThomasWaldmann> dreimark: izibi works on moin2/german, see melange
295 2011-01-04T19:33:42 <dreimark> ok, he has a different name there
296 2011-01-04T19:34:04 <ThomasWaldmann> yes %)
297 2011-01-04T19:34:53 <achshar> ohkeez
298 2011-01-04T19:35:17 <izibi> dreimark: anything else?
299 2011-01-04T19:35:33 <dreimark> izibi: still looking, did you checked by aspell ?
300 2011-01-04T19:37:05 <izibi> no
301 2011-01-04T19:38:53 * ThomasWaldmann has a builtin spellchecker :)
302 2011-01-04T19:40:14 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: if you fix that line pointed out by dreimark, you need to fix 3 errors total there :)
303 2011-01-04T19:41:02 <dreimark> he
304 2011-01-04T19:41:36 <dreimark> s/untenstehenden/unten stehenden/
305 2011-01-04T19:42:15 <izibi> das war schon so :D
306 2011-01-04T19:42:32 <dreimark> it is more often may be
307 2011-01-04T19:43:10 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: what do we want to do with "Systemseiten" ?
308 2011-01-04T19:43:28 <dreimark> izibi: did you talked about that
309 2011-01-04T19:43:34 <dreimark> in en it is items
310 2011-01-04T19:44:15 <dreimark> msgid "You must login to use this action: %(action)s."
311 2011-01-04T19:44:15 <dreimark> msgstr "Sie müssen sich hierzu anmleden: %(action)s."
312 2011-01-04T19:44:23 <ThomasWaldmann> keep "Item"
313 2011-01-04T19:44:32 <dreimark> izibi: anmleden:
314 2011-01-04T19:44:33 <ThomasWaldmann> most items are not "system pages"
315 2011-01-04T19:45:16 <dreimark> we have some "page" in en too
316 2011-01-04T19:45:24 <dreimark> #: MoinMoin/apps/frontend/views.py:559
317 2011-01-04T19:45:24 <dreimark> msgid "A quicklink to this page could not be added for you."
318 2011-01-04T19:45:24 <dreimark> msgstr "Es konnte kein Kurzlink zu dieser Seite für Sie erstellt werden."
319 2011-01-04T19:45:54 <achshar> <<Anchor(anchorname)>> throws <<Anchor: execution failed [__init__() takes exactly 2 arguments (1 given)] (see also the log)>> in moin 2. do we have a HelpOnMarcos page in moin2?
320 2011-01-04T19:46:33 <ThomasWaldmann> killall "page" :)
321 2011-01-04T19:46:53 <dreimark> msgid "Can't remove regular expression subscription!"
322 2011-01-04T19:46:53 <dreimark> msgstr ""
323 2011-01-04T19:46:53 <dreimark> "Auf Regular Expressions basierende Abonnements kännen nicht entfernt "
324 2011-01-04T19:46:53 <dreimark> "werden!"
325 2011-01-04T19:47:09 <dreimark> izibi: s/kännen/können/
326 2011-01-04T19:47:20 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: i think there are more than 3 ;)
327 2011-01-04T19:47:34 <izibi> s/abbonieren/abonnieren
328 2011-01-04T19:47:58 <ThomasWaldmann> i only meant that 1 line
329 2011-01-04T19:48:07 <dreimark> ah - ok
330 2011-01-04T19:48:35 <dreimark> izibi: Auf Regular Expressions
331 2011-01-04T19:48:45 <dreimark> Auf reguläre Ausdrücke
332 2011-01-04T19:49:08 <dreimark> oder regulären ...
333 2011-01-04T19:51:17 <dreimark> msgid "Recovery token"
334 2011-01-04T19:51:17 <dreimark> msgstr "Wiederherstellungscode"
335 2011-01-04T19:51:25 <dreimark> sounds strange in german
336 2011-01-04T19:51:34 <izibi> any better idea? ;)
337 2011-01-04T19:51:44 <dreimark> Wiederherstellungs-Token may be
338 2011-01-04T19:51:54 <dreimark> ThomasWaldmann: ^ better suggestion
339 2011-01-04T19:52:55 *** achshar
340 2011-01-04T19:53:14 <ThomasWaldmann> Wiederherstellungscode klingt eigentlich ok.
341 2011-01-04T19:53:42 <dreimark> ich glaub mich stört die länge des wortes
342 2011-01-04T19:53:45 <izibi> s/Benutzernames/Benuternamens/
343 2011-01-04T19:53:47 <dreimark> aber ok
344 2011-01-04T19:54:06 <izibi> code oder -Token? ;)
345 2011-01-04T19:54:13 *** achshar
346 2011-01-04T19:54:16 <ThomasWaldmann> oder -Code
347 2011-01-04T19:54:33 <ThomasWaldmann> token verstehen nur englischsprachige oder geeks
348 2011-01-04T19:55:28 <dreimark> ok dann bleibts das lange wort
349 2011-01-04T19:56:27 *** gh_ju1
350 2011-01-04T19:56:39 <izibi> woher wisst ihr nur, bei welchem string ich so am meisten überlegt habe :D
351 2011-01-04T19:56:51 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: do the -- <unknown> <<DateTime(2011-01-04T23:00:02Z)>> and <<DateTime(2011-01-04T23:00:02Z)>> work in moin 2? i havent made an account yet
352 2011-01-04T19:57:02 *** gh_ju
353 2011-01-04T19:57:19 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: iirc no
354 2011-01-04T19:57:43 <ThomasWaldmann> don't document them
355 2011-01-04T19:57:58 <achshar> hmm alright :)
356 2011-01-04T19:58:15 <izibi> also code oder -Code? ;)
357 2011-01-04T19:58:55 <achshar> the table cell background color also does not work yet.. i haven documented them either :)
358 2011-01-04T19:59:09 <dreimark> wenn es zusammengesetzt ohne - ein dt. wort ist dann ohne
359 2011-01-04T20:00:10 <izibi> http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?hl=de&answer=148367 google verwendet "Wiederherstellungscode" :D
360 2011-01-04T20:04:02 <dreimark> try to unify Versionshistorie oder Versionsgeschichte
361 2011-01-04T20:05:07 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: the syntax highlighting gives AttributeError page, i cant really figure out if moin2 supports it and is on an error it if it is not supported yet.. so should i documet it?
362 2011-01-04T20:05:40 <achshar> and is on an error or if it is not supported yet.. so should i documet it?
363 2011-01-04T20:07:29 <dreimark> izibi: if possible try to avoid too long words
364 2011-01-04T20:08:47 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: document it and add a note that it breaks
365 2011-01-04T20:09:14 <dreimark> izibi: i am back in ~2h and will do the next review
366 2011-01-04T20:09:32 <dreimark> bbl
367 2011-01-04T20:09:35 <achshar> cool
368 2011-01-04T20:16:04 <achshar> there is no comments link in the edit bar, but the comments syntax does show a comment box so i guess the display toggle feature is not available yet
369 2011-01-04T20:16:44 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
370 2011-01-04T20:19:53 <izibi> Error: Server Error
371 2011-01-04T20:19:57 <izibi> google melange <3
372 2011-01-04T20:19:58 <izibi> :D
373 2011-01-04T20:20:31 <ThomasWaldmann> public wide beta :)
374 2011-01-04T20:21:54 <izibi> new version submitted. now hopefully with less (better: no) mistakes :D
375 2011-01-04T20:22:55 *** rfw
376 2011-01-04T20:22:55 *** rfw
377 2011-01-04T20:23:18 <achshar> ./* comments */ is visible by default.. its not really a comment then :P
378 2011-01-04T20:24:38 <achshar> hey if you start your line with '/*' here on the webchat.freenode, the message does not get submitted! weirdo :O
379 2011-01-04T20:25:58 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: ah, nice, you found some places with missing _()
380 2011-01-04T20:27:10 <ThomasWaldmann> {{ _("This item, but no revisions, exists.") }} < better than before, but still reads suspicious somehow
381 2011-01-04T20:27:30 <ThomasWaldmann> is it "exists" or "exist"?
382 2011-01-04T20:28:31 <achshar> should i put the unavailability of comments in the editbar, as a todo for the comments or shouid i just not document comments..?
383 2011-01-04T20:28:53 <izibi> "This item exists but there are no revisions." :D
384 2011-01-04T20:32:01 <izibi> any native english speakers here? ;)
385 2011-01-04T20:32:52 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: if comments work at all, you don't need to document that
386 2011-01-04T20:33:05 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: sounds better
387 2011-01-04T20:33:12 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: Bitte klicken sie auf den unten stehenden Link um ein neues Passwort zu
388 2011-01-04T20:33:27 <ThomasWaldmann> Sie* ... Link,*
389 2011-01-04T20:34:03 <izibi> das, was schon drin stand, hab ich einfach so gelassen ;)
390 2011-01-04T20:34:40 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: yeah that's the problem, they work partially, they show up but it is not possible to toggle them, which is what i believe a comment would be there for, being optional in visibility.
391 2011-01-04T20:35:17 <achshar> btw hey rfw's here rfw: are you the gci participant??
392 2011-01-04T20:35:22 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: right, feel free to document it if you like
393 2011-01-04T20:35:30 <rfw> achshar: hi and yes
394 2011-01-04T20:36:17 <achshar> rfw: great to see you.. damn did you really wind up 10 difficult tasks in one day?? man that's insane :P
395 2011-01-04T20:36:46 <rfw> yeah it was just mostly writing boring as hell tests
396 2011-01-04T20:37:18 <achshar> rfw: btw congrats! looks like you will be making to top ten this year :D:D
397 2011-01-04T20:37:25 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: Quicklink/Kurzlink? vielleicht eher Schnell-Link oder einfach Quicklink lassen?
398 2011-01-04T20:37:33 <achshar> or infact twill come first :O
399 2011-01-04T20:38:02 <rfw> mm jumpyshoes isn't far behind
400 2011-01-04T20:38:12 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: an dem wort hing ich auch ;) ok, dann quicklink
401 2011-01-04T20:38:25 <ThomasWaldmann> jo
402 2011-01-04T20:38:39 <achshar> yeahh it will be close..
403 2011-01-04T20:39:03 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: Ihr Kurzlink zu dieser Seite konnte nicht entfernt werden < punkt am ende
404 2011-01-04T20:39:23 <achshar> rfw: i am still at 9 points and you are at 250! :P
405 2011-01-04T20:40:12 <rfw> heh heh
406 2011-01-04T20:41:06 <achshar> i can bet that G will give cr-48 netbooks as a gift to top 10.. or maybe a nexus s
407 2011-01-04T20:41:48 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: Dieses Wiki kann keine E-Mails verarbeiten. < stimmt nur fast. es koennte schon, aber es ist nicht angeschaltet.
408 2011-01-04T20:42:39 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: in every case they will give a small notebook with endless runtime. :)
409 2011-01-04T20:43:12 <achshar> hmmm :D that would have been enough for me :O :P
410 2011-01-04T20:43:24 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: besserer vorschlag? die verarbeitung wurde deaktiviert?
411 2011-01-04T20:44:18 <ThomasWaldmann> Die E-Mail-Funktion ist in diesem Wiki nicht aktiviert.
412 2011-01-04T20:45:01 <ThomasWaldmann> Setzen Sie Ihre E-Mail Adresse < E-Mail-Adresse?
413 2011-01-04T20:46:12 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/314852/ i think i am dome.. please have a look :)
414 2011-01-04T20:46:30 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: "Auf reguläre Ausdrücke basierende Abonnements können nicht entfernt " 138 "werden!"
415 2011-01-04T20:46:42 <achshar> done*
416 2011-01-04T20:46:45 *** Samm
417 2011-01-04T20:47:13 <ThomasWaldmann> Ein auf einem regulären Ausdruck basierendes Abonnement kann nicht entfernt werden.
418 2011-01-04T20:49:16 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: 408
419 2011-01-04T20:49:55 <achshar> oh done :)
420 2011-01-04T20:50:27 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: could you put the file into the right place and then run sphinx and submit all 3 .html files that come out?
421 2011-01-04T20:50:35 <achshar> how do i change it on pocoo?
422 2011-01-04T20:50:55 <achshar> i dont know anything about sphinx :(
423 2011-01-04T20:51:05 <ThomasWaldmann> (or rather have a look first yourself and fix obvious issues/inconsistencies, also comparing with the existing files)
424 2011-01-04T20:51:18 <ThomasWaldmann> it is just "make html" in the docs dir
425 2011-01-04T20:51:26 <ThomasWaldmann> you have a "make"?
426 2011-01-04T20:51:49 <achshar> yeah itsthere
427 2011-01-04T20:52:09 <achshar> its a batch file
428 2011-01-04T20:52:23 *** NikitaUtiu
429 2011-01-04T20:52:31 <achshar> which when opened appears a cmd and then closes itself
430 2011-01-04T20:53:37 <achshar> i made the file keeping in mind the existing files.. i had both of them opened right next to this file :)
431 2011-01-04T20:54:20 <achshar> i also double checked for any typos and cecked it on the online renderer
432 2011-01-04T20:54:39 <ThomasWaldmann> ok, i'll run it through sphinx myself
433 2011-01-04T20:55:00 <achshar> hmmm cool, should i wait??
434 2011-01-04T21:00:58 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann: actually my school opens tomorrow so i cannot work in the night anymore :O :(
435 2011-01-04T21:04:25 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: i you have some time still, i can give some comments. i could also put them into melange, if you prefer.
436 2011-01-04T21:04:57 <achshar> no i think i can wait fro about half an hour..
437 2011-01-04T21:05:09 <achshar> have to take bath :P
438 2011-01-04T21:05:46 <achshar> so will see you in about 30 mins :)
439 2011-01-04T21:05:50 <ThomasWaldmann> you switched order of bold and italic compared to the other docs
440 2011-01-04T21:06:02 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
441 2011-01-04T21:07:04 <achshar> oh is that a big thing? i wasnt really looking at the order for them
442 2011-01-04T21:07:33 <achshar> the main order is similar to that of 1.9 help page
443 2011-01-04T21:08:12 <ThomasWaldmann> well, consistency is nice to have :)
444 2011-01-04T21:08:16 <izibi> "This item exists but it has no revisions." or "This item exists, but it has no revisions."? (diff: comma)
445 2011-01-04T21:08:20 <ThomasWaldmann> "The following is a table of hyperlink markups that can be used to code hyperlinks in Moin."
446 2011-01-04T21:08:29 <achshar> i started with common stuff like (heading, text formating) then went to rare stuff (comments)
447 2011-01-04T21:08:31 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: that is pretty obvious ^^
448 2011-01-04T21:08:46 <ThomasWaldmann> sure
449 2011-01-04T21:09:05 <achshar> actually i took that from cerolewiki and modified it a bit
450 2011-01-04T21:09:06 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: i feel WITH comma, but not sure
451 2011-01-04T21:09:28 <achshar> sorry, i thought giving a litle desription would be good:D
452 2011-01-04T21:10:29 <ThomasWaldmann> no problem, just remove it. given that the headline is "hyperlinks", i don't think it is needed
453 2011-01-04T21:10:57 <ThomasWaldmann> but i don't want to hold you back from bathing :)
454 2011-01-04T21:11:02 <achshar> yeah its kind of obvious :P me bad
455 2011-01-04T21:11:13 <achshar> no problem.. i can stick out :)
456 2011-01-04T21:12:25 <achshar> thta bold italic was orderd so because italics came first in 1.9 page too.. so i followed that :D
457 2011-01-04T21:13:22 <ThomasWaldmann> yeah
458 2011-01-04T21:13:55 <ThomasWaldmann> i am mostly thinking about doing systematic updates (or reading) of the new pages. so if they are somehow consistent, that is helpful.
459 2011-01-04T21:14:34 <achshar> hmm i will change the order then :)
460 2011-01-04T21:15:01 <achshar> done :)
461 2011-01-04T21:15:48 <ThomasWaldmann> comment column for the links is missing
462 2011-01-04T21:16:37 <ThomasWaldmann> also, use the same item names as on the other docs
463 2011-01-04T21:16:59 <achshar> hmm it wasnt there on 1.9 so i might have skiped it but i am on it
464 2011-01-04T21:17:07 <achshar> both of them :)
465 2011-01-04T21:17:21 <ThomasWaldmann> that "item" is the new "page"
466 2011-01-04T21:17:48 <achshar> hmm
467 2011-01-04T21:20:31 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: external links headline is missing
468 2011-01-04T21:21:59 <ThomasWaldmann> images and transclusions also
469 2011-01-04T21:22:55 <achshar> so i also have to bunde the logo and the filename.txt?
470 2011-01-04T21:23:04 <achshar> bundle*
471 2011-01-04T21:24:04 <achshar> along with the .rst
472 2011-01-04T21:24:38 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe we can avoid that
473 2011-01-04T21:27:48 <ThomasWaldmann> maybe have a look at the rest yourself and try to keep order and structure as seen in the other docs
474 2011-01-04T21:28:31 <achshar> hmm alright.. i will see into it :)
475 2011-01-04T21:28:51 <achshar> till where have you seen?
476 2011-01-04T21:29:37 <ThomasWaldmann> until after links
477 2011-01-04T21:30:23 <achshar> ohkeez
478 2011-01-04T21:37:01 <izibi> ThomasWaldmann: did you find any other mistakes?
479 2011-01-04T21:38:18 <achshar> ThomasWaldmann the syntax to insert image is included inexternal links in 1.9 page.. do i follow that or the creolewiki.rst? creolewiki has multiple syntaxes for images and embeds but moin wiki has just one, maybe thats hy it was included in external links instead of a seprate heading
480 2011-01-04T21:40:03 <achshar> brb
481 2011-01-04T21:40:42 <ThomasWaldmann> achshar: links and transclusions are different stuff, but both can be internal or external
482 2011-01-04T21:44:54 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: "You are now logged out." > "Sie sind jetzt angemeldet." <- NOPE!
483 2011-01-04T21:45:12 <izibi> oops
484 2011-01-04T21:45:25 <achshar> hmm lright i will bemaking them seprate tomorrow.. for now i got to go
485 2011-01-04T21:45:35 <izibi> typo. ;)
486 2011-01-04T21:45:57 <achshar> gn everybody :D
487 2011-01-04T21:46:22 *** achshar
488 2011-01-04T21:46:44 <ThomasWaldmann> izibi: eröffentliche meine E-Mail Adresse (statt meiner Wikiseite) in den " 253 "Autoreninformationen
489 2011-01-04T21:47:26 <ThomasWaldmann> E-Mail-Adresse ... Wiki-Homepage (oder wie auch immer Wiki-Homepage sonst uebersetzt wurde)
490 2011-01-04T21:47:56 <izibi> homepage kommt nur in dem einen string vor ;)
491 2011-01-04T21:48:10 <izibi> und e-mail-adresse hab ich vorhin schon alle ersetzt
492 2011-01-04T21:48:42 <ThomasWaldmann> ok
493 2011-01-04T21:49:10 <ThomasWaldmann> hmm Alias -> Spitzname?
494 2011-01-04T21:49:33 <ThomasWaldmann> ich denke mal Spitzname ist ein Alias, aber ein Alias muss kein Spitzname sein.
495 2011-01-04T21:49:48 <ThomasWaldmann> vielleicht lieber Alias-Name?
496 2011-01-04T21:52:17 <izibi> ok
497 2011-01-04T21:55:29 <ThomasWaldmann> msgstr "Das Passwort ist zu leicht zu erraten (Buchstabenfolge auf der Tastatur)."
498 2011-01-04T21:55:56 <ThomasWaldmann> Zahlen gehen auch :) Tastefolge? Zeichenfolge? Tastatur-Sequenz?
499 2011-01-04T21:56:42 <izibi> zeichenfolge
500 2011-01-04T21:58:16 <ThomasWaldmann> Prüfsumme (war: hash code), stimmt nicht so ganz
501 2011-01-04T21:59:46 <ThomasWaldmann> tja, besser nicht uebersetzen?
502 2011-01-04T22:00:09 <izibi> ich hab keine bessere idee
503 2011-01-04T22:00:47 <ThomasWaldmann> lass mal pruefsumme
504 2011-01-04T22:00:52 <izibi> http://translate.google.com/#en|de|hash%20code ;)
505 2011-01-04T22:01:23 <ThomasWaldmann> jo, oder das
506 2011-01-04T22:01:31 *** Samm
507 2011-01-04T22:01:37 <ThomasWaldmann> wer's nicht weiss, braucht's auch ned
508 2011-01-04T22:02:31 <izibi> also was jetzt?
509 2011-01-04T22:02:56 <ThomasWaldmann> Hash-Code
510 2011-01-04T22:04:42 <ThomasWaldmann> "The items have different data." -> "Die Items enthalten unterschiedliche Daten."
511 2011-01-04T22:05:24 <ThomasWaldmann> (wichtig ist hierbei "Daten", die Metadaten sind auch im Item drin, werden aber nicht verglichen)
512 2011-01-04T22:06:24 <izibi> unterschiedlicher inhalt?
513 2011-01-04T22:07:34 <ThomasWaldmann> wie gesagt: inhalt = metadata + data
514 2011-01-04T22:08:14 <ThomasWaldmann> #: MoinMoin/macro/GetText.py:21
515 2011-01-04T22:08:29 <izibi> leerzeichen? ;)
516 2011-01-04T22:08:31 <ThomasWaldmann> msgid " "
517 2011-01-04T22:08:36 <ThomasWaldmann> jo
518 2011-01-04T22:08:46 <ThomasWaldmann> brauchen wir das?
519 2011-01-04T22:08:47 <izibi> _(' '.join(...))
520 2011-01-04T22:08:58 <izibi> hatten wir doch schon gestern ;)
521 2011-01-04T22:09:12 <ThomasWaldmann> oh, und das holt es da raus? fail :)
522 2011-01-04T22:09:22 <izibi> offensichtlich ja
523 2011-01-04T22:09:49 <ThomasWaldmann> words = ' '.join(...)
524 2011-01-04T22:09:54 <ThomasWaldmann> _(words)
525 2011-01-04T22:10:16 <ThomasWaldmann> kannst es vielleicht gleich fixen, dann wird's nicht vergessen
526 2011-01-04T22:11:06 <izibi> was soll den mit dem macro übersetzt werden?
527 2011-01-04T22:11:14 <ThomasWaldmann> GoTo.py:29 Go To Page -> Go To Item
528 2011-01-04T22:11:26 <izibi> wäre evtl ' '.join(map(_, ...)) sinnvoller?
529 2011-01-04T22:12:14 <ThomasWaldmann> kommt drauf an :)
530 2011-01-04T22:12:14 <xorAxAx> nein
531 2011-01-04T22:12:24 <xorAxAx> zu wenig kontext
532 2011-01-04T22:16:12 <ThomasWaldmann> "Ergebnisse %(bs)s%(hitsFrom)d - %(hitsTo)d%(be)s von %(aboutHits)s " 484 "%(bs)s%(hits)d%(be)s Ergebnisse auf ungefähr %(pages)d Seiten."
533 2011-01-04T22:16:33 <ThomasWaldmann> von ... Ergebnissen ...
534 2011-01-04T22:18:19 <ThomasWaldmann> #: MoinMoin/storage/error.py:44 ich denk mal priv wird dort nicht uebersetzt, hoert sich dann also im satz komisch an:
535 2011-01-04T22:18:28 <ThomasWaldmann> "%(username)s darf '%(item)s' nicht %(priv)s."
536 2011-01-04T22:19:30 <izibi> hmm ok, dachte da kommt dann sowas wie "Julian darf 'Home' nicht löschen." raus
537 2011-01-04T22:21:27 <ThomasWaldmann> ich vermute mal, da steht nachher ... nicht delete.
538 2011-01-04T22:22:04 <ThomasWaldmann> mach mal ein # XXX in error.py rein oder fix es gleich :)
539 2011-01-04T22:22:38 <izibi> und bei diesem ergebnis teil. welche variable ist da überhaupt was genau?
540 2011-01-04T22:23:45 <ThomasWaldmann> priv ist read, write, ...
541 2011-01-04T22:24:00 <ThomasWaldmann> item ist der item name
542 2011-01-04T22:25:15 <izibi> nein, das mit dem variablengemetzel da ;)
543 2011-01-04T22:25:26 <izibi> Ergebnisse %(bs)s%(hitsFrom)d - %(hitsTo)d%(be)s ....
544 2011-01-04T22:25:53 <izibi> in der error.py dann einfach ein _(priv) draus machen?
545 2011-01-04T22:26:02 <ThomasWaldmann> Ergebniss 10-20 von 100 Ergebnissen auf 1000 Seiten
546 2011-01-04T22:26:14 <ThomasWaldmann> das n fehlt
547 2011-01-04T22:26:30 <izibi> wobei priv auch nur ein parameter ist von der methode da
548 2011-01-04T22:26:42 <ThomasWaldmann> ja, mach's erstmal so
549 2011-01-04T22:26:57 <izibi> # XXX auch noch rein?
550 2011-01-04T22:26:58 <ThomasWaldmann> irgendwo muss man dann auch noch konkret die werte zur extraktion auffuehren
551 2011-01-04T22:27:06 <ThomasWaldmann> ja mit dem ^^
552 2011-01-04T22:27:21 <izibi> ?
553 2011-01-04T22:29:09 <ThomasWaldmann> # XXX add _('...') for all privs elsewhere for extraction
554 2011-01-04T22:30:32 <izibi> jetzt wieder mit den ergebnissen. was ist hits und was ist aboutHits?
555 2011-01-04T22:33:25 <izibi> ach so, aboutHits = "ungefähr"?
556 2011-01-04T22:34:31 <izibi> "Ergebnisse %(bs)s%(hitsFrom)d - %(hitsTo)d%(be)s von %(aboutHits)s "
557 2011-01-04T22:34:31 <izibi> "%(bs)s%(hits)d%(be)s Ergebnissen aus ungefähr %(pages)d Seiten."
558 2011-01-04T22:34:33 <izibi> so?
559 2011-01-04T22:38:49 <dreimark> re
560 2011-01-04T22:39:34 <izibi> wb
561 2011-01-04T22:52:08 <izibi> was mach ich jetzt aus dem different data?
562 2011-01-04T22:53:12 <dreimark> nicht Seiten
563 2011-01-04T22:53:54 <izibi> was nicht seiten?
564 2011-01-04T22:54:05 <dreimark> 22:34 < izibi> "%(bs)s%(hits)d%(be)s Ergebnissen aus ungefähr %(pages)d Seiten."22:34 < izibi> "%(bs)s%(hits)d%(be)s Ergebnissen aus ungefähr %(pages)d Seiten."
565 2011-01-04T22:54:21 <dreimark> hmm einmal haette gereicht
566 2011-01-04T22:54:38 <dreimark> "%(bs)s%(hits)d%(be)s Ergebnissen aus ungefähr %(pages)d Seiten."
567 2011-01-04T22:54:42 <dreimark> immer Items
568 2011-01-04T22:54:54 <izibi> stimmt dann im original aber auch nicht
569 2011-01-04T22:55:21 <dreimark> ja, die paramter muessen auch geaendert werden, ist einfach noch nicht alles nach items umbeschriftet
570 2011-01-04T22:55:52 <dreimark> wenn so was auffaellt und nicht unmittelbar geaendert wird ein TODO rein
571 2011-01-04T22:56:15 <dreimark> dann findet man die stellen hinterher leichter
572 2011-01-04T23:02:58 <izibi> next try: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/314908/ :D
573 2011-01-04T23:13:29 * dreimark reads
574 2011-01-04T23:22:41 <dreimark> izibi: "Bitte geben Sie Ihre E-Mail-Adresse an. Wenn Sie Ihre Logindaten "
575 2011-01-04T23:22:41 <dreimark> "vergessen, können sie Ihnen per E-Mail zugesendet werden."
576 2011-01-04T23:22:46 <dreimark> das zweite Sie
577 2011-01-04T23:24:16 <dreimark> msgid ""
578 2011-01-04T23:24:16 <dreimark> "Somebody has requested to email you a password recovery link.\n"
579 2011-01-04T23:24:17 <dreimark> "\n"
580 2011-01-04T23:24:17 <dreimark> "Please use the link below to change your password to a known value:\n"
581 2011-01-04T23:24:17 <dreimark> "\n"
582 2011-01-04T23:24:19 <dreimark> "%(link)s\n"
583 2011-01-04T23:24:21 <dreimark> "\n"
584 2011-01-04T23:24:24 <dreimark> msgstr ""
585 2011-01-04T23:24:26 <dreimark> "Für diese E-Mail-Adresse wurde eine Passwort-Wiederherstellung beantragt."
586 2011-01-04T23:24:29 <dreimark> "\n"
587 2011-01-04T23:24:30 <izibi> noch 2 kleine Sie gefunden
588 2011-01-04T23:24:31 <dreimark> "\n"
589 2011-01-04T23:24:34 <dreimark> "Bitte klicken Sie auf den unten stehenden Link, um ein neues Passwort zu "
590 2011-01-04T23:24:36 <dreimark> "setzen:\n"
591 2011-01-04T23:24:39 <dreimark> "\n"
592 2011-01-04T23:24:41 <dreimark> "%(link)s\n"
593 2011-01-04T23:24:44 <dreimark> "\n"
594 2011-01-04T23:24:46 <dreimark> "Falls Sie Ihr Passwort nicht vergessen haben, sollten Sie diese E-Mail "
595 2011-01-04T23:24:49 <dreimark> "ignorieren.\n"
596 2011-01-04T23:24:51 <dreimark> "\n"
597 2011-01-04T23:24:54 <dreimark> a little bit more
598 2011-01-04T23:24:57 <dreimark> der letzte satz ist nicht im en,
599 2011-01-04T23:25:09 <dreimark> er ist aber gut, sollte nur da dann auch sein
600 2011-01-04T23:25:21 <izibi> das war der vorübersetzer ;)
601 2011-01-04T23:25:35 <izibi> ok, füg ich im original ein
602 2011-01-04T23:26:12 <dreimark> Das Upgrade der Systemseiten
603 2011-01-04T23:26:16 <dreimark> da wieder items
604 2011-01-04T23:26:37 <jacktheripper> what does this mean ? "You can't save spelling words."
605 2011-01-04T23:26:37 <dreimark> msgstr "Das Upgrade der Systemseiten
606 2011-01-04T23:27:05 <dreimark> izibi: look at Systemseiten
607 2011-01-04T23:28:28 <dreimark> jacktheripper: we have a spellchecker whith user contributed text
608 2011-01-04T23:28:43 <ThomasWaldmann> re
609 2011-01-04T23:28:50 <dreimark> this message means the user is not able/allowed to do so
610 2011-01-04T23:29:08 <dreimark> save words for spellchecking
611 2011-01-04T23:29:31 <jacktheripper> oh
612 2011-01-04T23:30:06 <dreimark> izibi: add a TODO for msgid "You must login to use this action: %(action)s."
613 2011-01-04T23:30:23 <dreimark> needs refactoring, we don't have actions anymore
614 2011-01-04T23:30:25 <izibi> in the source or language file?
615 2011-01-04T23:31:05 <dreimark> in source makes more sense
616 2011-01-04T23:31:36 <dreimark> otherwise only germans have an advantage
617 2011-01-04T23:32:09 <dreimark> Es konnte kein Quicklink zu dieser Seite für Sie erstellt werden.
618 2011-01-04T23:32:21 * ThomasWaldmann has a weird post-gci idea :)
619 2011-01-04T23:32:40 <dreimark> izibi: again Seite. look for that word and replace it by item
620 2011-01-04T23:33:14 <dreimark> msgstr "Sie dürfen kein Item abonnieren, für das Sie keine Leserechte haben"
621 2011-01-04T23:33:19 <dreimark> dot at end of line
622 2011-01-04T23:33:34 <izibi> auch bei "Sie können <a href='%(modifyhref)s'>mit einer leeren Seite beginnen</a> "
623 2011-01-04T23:33:37 <izibi> "oder eine Vorlage auswählen, um das Item zu erstellen."
624 2011-01-04T23:33:40 <izibi> ?
625 2011-01-04T23:36:05 <dreimark> mit einem leerem Item beginnen
626 2011-01-04T23:36:28 <dreimark> ja
627 2011-01-04T23:37:03 <dreimark> sobald du ein wenig mit moin-2 was gemacht hast, ist das viel klarer, es gibt einfach keine seiten mehr
628 2011-01-04T23:37:27 <dreimark> das ist aus der sicht der items eine unglaubliche beschraenkung
629 2011-01-04T23:43:33 *** Samm
630 2011-01-04T23:52:06 *** maker__
631 2011-01-04T23:57:22 <dreimark> "Diese Tabelle zeigt alle Einstellungen des Wikis, die nicht den "
632 2011-01-04T23:57:22 <dreimark> "Standardwert haben.
633 2011-01-04T23:57:31 <dreimark> s/haben/entsprechen/
